I’ll do it so we have a place to gripe and complain…GDT 1 Sept 21 @ Dodgers

[jsebe10]

CF Joc Pederson L
SS D. Swanson R
1B F. Freeman L
3B Austin Riley R
C T. d'Arnaud R
LF E. Rosario L
RF Adam Duvall R
2B E. Adrianza S
P Max Fried L

We get finished off right tonight.

[CyYoung31]

How’d that fat ass make that play?

[msstate7]

Both of our lh starters have given up a 1st inning hr to muncy

[Runnin]

How’d that fat ass make that play?

I think he heard you.

[bravesnumberone]

Men against boys.

[Runnin]

Okay, now that's a bad route.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

I dont understand why we used Morton yesterday and Max Fried today. We should save those arms against the rockies and try to sweep that series.

[CyYoung31]

**** isn’t even worth watching tonight.

[thewupk]

I dont understand why we used Morton yesterday and Max Fried today. We should save those arms against the rockies and try to sweep that series.

Because it was their turn in the rotation

[thewupk]

**** isn’t even worth watching tonight.

your mom is though

[Garmel]

Swanson has not looked good at the plate lately.

[TURBO]

Sure wish he got a AB last night

[jsebe10]

Stupid fckn walk man

[TURBO]

Bae!!

[Garmel]

Swanson has not looked good at the plate lately.

LOL!

[bravesnumberone]

Setting up perfectly for Will Smith or someone to **** it up.

[thewupk]

LOL!

yeah that guy doesn't know ****

[thewupk]

Setting up perfectly for Will Smith or someone to **** it up.

#BravesWay

[GovClintonTyree]

I’ll be damned. They got off the deck.

[thewupk]

I’ll be damned. They got off the deck.

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[thewupk]

Trea Turner is a bitch

[Garmel]

2 outs now. Come on, Matzek.

[jsebe10]

Haha. Chris Martin…

We all know how this going to go.

[VirginiaBrave]

This truly is a tale of two seasons. Everything prior to 7/31 is meaningless.

[thewupk]

Haha. Chris Martin…

We all know how this going to go.

walk and homer?

[TURBO]

Doesnt Turner have reverse splits?

[Garmel]

I don't understand this decision but I hope it works out.

[thewupk]

Doesnt Turner have reverse splits?

no

[thewupk]

BS no call

[bravesnumberone]

Wasn’t the whole purpose of acquiring Dick Rod for situations like this?

[thewupk]

Wasn’t the whole purpose of acquiring Dick Rod for situations like this?

If only we could use him multiple times

[CrimsonCowboy]

Figures

[thewupk]

The Turners beat us this inning

[thewupk]

Freddie laughing with Turner knowing he will be at 1B for LA next year

[bravesnumberone]

The Braves just have a mental block against this team.

[thewupk]

The Braves just have a mental block against this team.

So do 28 other teams

[jsebe10]

What the **** did that moron think was going to happen when putting this sorry MFer in? There aren’t any historical matchup #s to justify this move…Martin has been pitching like dog sh*t all year and has been prone to bad pitch location all season long.

[CrimsonCowboy]

The Chris Martin of the last couple years can return at any time

[thewupk]

lmao

[CrimsonCowboy]

Bedtime

[jsebe10]

Completely on the god damn manager….

[tululush]

I don't think we'll ever beat the Dodgers again. I'm serious.

[jsebe10]

I don't think we'll ever beat the Dodgers again. I'm serious.

Not with arms like Martin and a fckn buffoon as a manager.

[VirginiaBrave]

We just can't compete with that depth and money.

[Garmel]

Snitker is trending on Twitter.

[bravesnumberone]

So do 28 other teams

Apples to oranges really. The Braves are good enough to win at least a game or two against them and the bullpen has fallen on their face two nights in a row.

[jsebe10]

IL this fckn cunt and get another arm up here.

[bravesnumberone]

Of course the mother****er gets out of it as soon as he gives up the two runs.

[jsebe10]

We just can't compete with that depth and money.

No but we can compete with good decision making and putting your team in the best position to win…Going with Martin was brainless and unnecessary…no matter what his numbers are vs Turner.

[jsebe10]

This fckn manager has cost us another W…

[jsebe10]

And now this fckn psycho Kelly with his handy 3.66 ERA will dick down the 5-6-7 hitters.

[GovClintonTyree]

Boy, am I tired of this bullpen.

[bravesnumberone]

Not trying to defend Snit on Martin, but I mean goddamn. Even Matzek backslid the last two nights.

[thewupk]

Apples to oranges really. The Braves are good enough to win at least a game or two against them and the bullpen has fallen on their face two nights in a row.

Braves will be 2-4 against the Dodgers this year. So we have won a couple against them.

[jsebe10]

Not trying to defend Snit on Martin, but I mean goddamn. Even Matzek backslid the last two nights.

But his stuff is 399x better than Martin’s….He just struck out one of the best hitters in baseball…let him go

[bravesnumberone]

Braves will be 2-4 against the Dodgers this year. So we have won a couple against them.

I mean in a three-game series, right now, not in early June, but a few weeks out from the postseason. Just gotta hope this doesn’t carry over into Colorado.

[Garmel]

Not trying to defend Snit on Martin, but I mean goddamn. Even Matzek backslid the last two nights.

I can't blame him for tonight. That double he gave up was on a high fastball that's a popup most of the time.

[jsebe10]

Snit has to fckn go man…he cannot be in the future plans of this team…He’s literally asleep at the fckn wheel here…

[thewupk]

I mean in a three-game series, right now, not in early June, but a few weeks out from the postseason. Just gotta hope this doesn’t carry over into Colorado.

True. But on the other hand the Dodgers added Turner (3rd most fWAR in the NL among qualified hitters) and Scerzer (5th most fWAR after tonight among qualified pitchers) since then. The team is ridiculous.

[jsebe10]

True. But on the other hand the Dodgers added Turner (3rd most fWAR in the NL among qualified hitters) and Scerzer (5th most fWAR after tonight among qualified pitchers) since then. The team is ridiculous.

Don’t forget they added Snitker too…you know…starting Rosario vs Urias and sitting Duvall…this sitting Rosario vs Buehler and starting Duvall…

Then the blunder tonight. He literally has cost this team easily 2 games this series. There was no reason to take out Matzek.

[thewupk]

Don’t forget they added Snitker too…you know…starting Rosario vs Urias and sitting Duvall…this sitting Rosario vs Buehler and starting Duvall…

Then the blunder tonight. He literally has cost this team easily 2 games this series. There was no reason to take out Matzek.

Well Snit has been blowing games all season. This is nothing new.

[UNCBlue012]

Just a quick reminder that the Braves losses to three REALLY good teams were by 4, 1, 5, 2, 1 and 1 runs. It happens. They need to take care of business moving forward but panicking after *close* losses to elite teams isn’t it.

Maybe the Phillies take over first, but they’re a ****ty team. The Braves need to just keep grinding, they’ll win the division.

[The Chosen One]

Just a quick reminder that the Braves losses to three REALLY good teams were by 4, 1, 5, 2, 1 and 1 runs. It happens. They need to take care of business moving forward but panicking after *close* losses to elite teams isn’t it.

Maybe the Phillies take over first, but they’re a ****ty team. The Braves need to just keep grinding, they’ll win the division.

Talent has carried us against the below .500 teams generally in spite of Snit's managing. The Snit looks like a genius because he was "patient" and the guys got hot and made him look like some zen master that knew what he was doing.

Bad managing is usually what costs us in close games when the margins are thin.

[CyYoung31]

I was asleep. So, let me get this straight. Snitker decided to pull Matzek for Turner despite Turner not having pronounced splits, and goes with Martin instead of Rodriguez, despite Rodriguez not having pitched in 3 days and being the superior pitcher.

That about sum it up?

[bravesnumberone]

I was asleep. So, let me get this straight. Snitker decided to pull Matzek for Turner despite Turner not having pronounced splits, and goes with Martin instead of Rodriguez, despite Rodriguez not having pitched in 3 days and being the superior pitcher.

That about sum it up?

Rod was used for the first two outs of the seventh. Someone said something about Turner being 0-for-7 against Martin. At some point more than two guys in that pen have gotta perform in big spots. But yes, Martin is one of the last I would have wanted there.

[bravesnumberone]

Rockies are 43-22 at home. Feel less than optimal about this weekend.

[UNCBlue012]

Rockies are 43-22 at home. Feel less than optimal about this weekend.

On the other side, if there's a lineup that's made to thrive in Coors, it's the Braves. We also have groundball guys going in Touki, Ynoa and Anderson. I worry about Touki given his long-ball fits... but if he's on, he'll cruise.

[UNCBlue012]

Talent has carried us against the below .500 teams generally in spite of Snit's managing. The Snit looks like a genius because he was "patient" and the guys got hot and made him look like some zen master that knew what he was doing.

Bad managing is usually what costs us in close games when the margins are thin.

This is where not having your superstar really hurts. Even when Ronnie was "cold" this season, his seven- to 15-game slashes were .280/.350/.550. The Braves lineup is boom or bust right now... he is greatly missed. My guess is we go 4-4, 5-3 over the eight-game stretch with him. As constructed, the team is lightyears better than it was before the Trade Deadline but it's not near the Dodgers. It'll take this depth + Acuna to win against them and consistently against above-.500 squads.

[GovClintonTyree]

Talent has carried us against the below .500 teams generally in spite of Snit's managing. The Snit looks like a genius because he was "patient" and the guys got hot and made him look like some zen master that knew what he was doing.

Bad managing is usually what costs us in close games when the margins are thin.

Not defending Snit exactly, but I think the criticisms of him are outsized and misguided. For years on boards before this one, I can remember what a tactical moron Bobby was. Of course Fredi was an idiot. Fact of the matter is, every fan base since the beginning of the game has questioned the tactical decisions of their manager.

The big problem, to me, is that the performance of the bullpen has been shaky, even poor, in high leverage spots. You can point to Luke with a 2.00 ERA, but I promise you, those few runs he allowed were in high leverage situations. Last year, Minter, Greene, and Martin were money (lucky money, their babips and xwOBA against would suggest). This year, Minter's recent recovery notwithstanding, they've been awful. That's not even getting into his $13M man's gopher problem.

Snit may not be pushing the right buttons at the right time, but even if he was, the pen is not performing well. I put the thrust of the problem on that.

[McCann'sCans]

Not defending Snit exactly, but I think the criticisms of him are outsized and misguided. For years on boards before this one, I can remember what a tactical moron Bobby was. Of course Fredi was an idiot. Fact of the matter is, every fan base since the beginning of the game has questioned the tactical decisions of their manager.

The big problem, to me, is that the performance of the bullpen has been shaky, even poor, in high leverage spots. You can point to Luke with a 2.00 ERA, but I promise you, those few runs he allowed were in high leverage situations. Last year, Minter, Greene, and Martin were money (lucky money, their babips and xwOBA against would suggest). This year, Minter's recent recovery notwithstanding, they've been awful. That's not even getting into his $13M man's gopher problem.

Snit may not be pushing the right buttons at the right time, but even if he was, the pen is not performing well. I put the thrust of the problem on that.

The big difference is that every fan base in the history of time didn't have numbers to easily prove if the decisions were correct or incorrect. Many of the decisions Snitker makes (and that Bobby made, and that Fredi made) are demonstrably bad. Other managers- unlike that Braves trio- have been more willing to move into the modern era and leverage the data available to them.

If Snit made a decision in accordance with the data available and it didn't work out, I don't think people would complain. When you make decisions based on 'gut' that often go against the data available, you're going to get criticized for being an idiot.

[McCann'sCans]

Matzek had just looked pretty nasty while striking out a RHH. He's been filthy against RHH all year, especially lately. Meanwhile, Chris Martin has been struggling mightily of late and has been better against LHH than RHH for his entire career. Similarly, Turner has been a better career hitter against RHP.

There is absolutely nothing about that decision that would make you say "Well, it was the right choice but it didn't work out this time." If he had left Matzek in and Turner had tied the game, so be it.

[McCann'sCans]

Last night got me thinking about what the pecking order of the bullpen should be right now (obviously depending slightly on handedness and who is coming up) vs. what Snit thinks it is.

My preference order: Matzek, Jackson, Rodriguez, Smith, Martin. And I'd be tempted to put Chavez above Martin right now.
Snit's 'gut' order: Smith, Jackson, Martin, Matzek, Rodriguez.

[bravesfanMatt]

I mean twit does more stupid things than just BP and leaving pitchers in too long. He started Rosy versus a Lefty to then sit him versus a righty. He also pinched hit for the pitcher then pulled Rosy on a double switch thus stringing more RHH all together. Twit literally makes the other managers job easier. You can’t make this up. Managers should impact maybe 10 games a season either way but twit somehow manages to exceed that. The team held their own against the dodgers just fine this series The talent is there to be better. Just our brain trust can’t compete with the other teams.

[McCann'sCans]

The funny thing is, Roberts has a lot of similarities to Snit. He makes some baffling decisions- especially around BP management- but they are generally more talented than the other team at almost every position and can get away with it.

[GovClintonTyree]

The big difference is that every fan base in the history of time didn't have numbers to easily prove if the decisions were correct or incorrect. Many of the decisions Snitker makes (and that Bobby made, and that Fredi made) are demonstrably bad. Other managers- unlike that Braves trio- have been more willing to move into the modern era and leverage the data available to them.

If Snit made a decision in accordance with the data available and it didn't work out, I don't think people would complain. When you make decisions based on 'gut' that often go against the data available, you're going to get criticized for being an idiot.

So if the macro analytics say bringing in Martin to face Turner is incorrect but the head-to-head says Martin has gotten Turner out seven straight times, 0-7, is it a clear-cut mistake?

[The Chosen One]

Bobby’s managing was a product for its time when there was very hardly any analytics management going on.

Bobby also had the X factor of being the ultimate players manager. Snit may be well liked by the clubhouse but Bobby was admired and loved.

Snitker is either one of the last remnants of managers not using analytics, or he’s the beginning of the pendulum swinging back or old school types. But I don’t really think it’s the latter.

[bravesfanMatt]

The funny thing is, Roberts has a lot of similarities to Snit. He makes some baffling decisions- especially around BP management- but they are generally more talented than the other team at almost every position and can get away with it.

I don’t follow the dodger$ much but when I do he is always making his lineups to be the most advantageous to platoon splits. He utilizes his lineup correctly IMO. He doesn’t have Acuna leading off because he can only hit in that spot for some reason. I also seen him use pen guys for more than one inning. He doesn’t have to change pitchers because it is the top of the 8th and his playbook says Martin can only pitch the 8th.