GDT 10/30/21: Braves vs Astros - World Series Game 4

[Slippyjms]

Rosario LF
Freeman 1B
Albies 2B
Riley 3B
Pederson RF
d’Arnaud C
Duvall CF
Swanson SS
Lee P

[atl717]

Out of everyone, why Lee?

[nsacpi]

Out of everyone, why Lee?

My guess is they wanted a lefty to pitch until Tucker's spot in the lineup (or perhaps just to Alvarez's spot). And wanted to save our other lefty relievers (Minter, Matzek, Smith) for high leverage situations.

They could have gone to Smyly but probably want him in there for a situation where he might pitch to more than 6 hitters. With the opener, it is at most until Tucker (who normally hits sixth). After that we will turn it over to a RHP (likely Chavez). Then pinch hit for the pitcher's spot. At that point maybe we bring in Smyly. Depends upon the game situation obviously.

The plan going in might be roughly this: Lee and Chavez for the first time through the Astros' lineup, Smyly and Martin for the second time. Then the high leverage guys if it is a close game.

[AJonesATL]

I don’t like no Soler. If we want Peterson put him in for Duvall. Soler at bats have been consistently really good

[Mad Dog Murph]

Out of everyone, why Lee?

Because it’s only 1 inning. It’s not like they’re expecting him to go 6 scoreless

[chop2chip]

Out of everyone, why Lee?
I imagine it means Kyle Wright follows him, though the Astros don’t do much in terms of platoons.

All things considered, I would rather a LH face 2-3-4 even with Altuve leading off who hits LH well. I would go:

Lee - 1 inning (maybe let him go through Kyle Tucker)
Chavez - 1+ inning (pull with the PH)
Wright - 3 innings (he may have to hit depending on the situation)

The score should then decide whether the Night Shift goes or Chris Martin / Davidson close the game out. If the game gets out of hand, we may see a position player pitch.

The worst outcome is if the Braves are down 1-2 runs. I wouldn’t pitch any of our better bullpen arms multiple innings, so we may need to rely on Martin to cover an inning (preferably against the bottom of the order).

[Buzzworm]

I don’t like no Soler. If we want Peterson put him in for Duvall. Soler at bats have been consistently really good

I agree with this but DuFail is our best center fielder so we are pretty much stuck running him out against righties and hoping he runs into one.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Alex Rodriguez!! 🤡

Another note on Braves bullpen situation. Atlanta relievers have thrown 903 pitches so far this postseason over 56 innings.

Compare that to Houston, which has thrown 1,125 over 65 innings.

The Braves were in position to exercise their bullpen & without overworking it.

[AJonesATL]

My prediction for the night. Dansby busts out. 2+ hits one for extra bases. At least one run knocked in

[Enscheff]

Alex Rodriguez!! 🤡

Another note on Braves bullpen situation. Atlanta relievers have thrown 903 pitches so far this postseason over 56 innings.

Compare that to Houston, which has thrown 1,125 over 65 innings.

The Braves were in position to exercise their bullpen & without overworking it.

I don’t understand the point he’s trying to make.

The argument is the Braves have overused the BP, and the facts that back up that assertion show they've used the BP less than the Astros.

What am I missing?

[Enscheff]

I don’t like no Soler. If we want Peterson put him in for Duvall. Soler at bats have been consistently really good

Agreed. Soler has the best chance of getting on base of all the OFers, and does the most damage on contact. In short, he is by far the best overall offensive player on the roster except Freeman.

[zitothebrave]

Let's goooooo

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Jason Castro out with covid!

[CyYoung31]

Agreed. Soler has the best chance of getting on base of all the OFers, and does the most damage on contact. In short, he is by far the best overall offensive player on the roster except Freeman.

Snit with his biggest blunder of the postseason.

[Buzzworm]

Jason Castro out with covid!

That’s pretty big.
He’s an excellent defensive catcher and handles the pitchers pretty good.
Let’s score some runs tonight and take control of this series!

[Buzzworm]

That’s pretty big.
He’s an excellent defensive catcher and handles the pitchers pretty good.
Let’s score some runs tonight and take control of this series!

Nevermind Was confusing he and Maldonado who is the better defensive catcher lol

[CyYoung31]

At the game. A win is imminent.

[Five]

At the game. A win is imminent.
Be loud brother!

[CyYoung31]

Nick Green just walked past me.

[chop2chip]

At the game. A win is imminent.

That’s awesome! It’s going to be a memorable one after the Braves complete the combined perfect game

[UNCBlue012]

At the game. A win is imminent. nice! Enjoy!

#WinOneForCysMom

[chop2chip]

David Ortiz on set throwing money in the air screaming “MAGIC CITY HERE I COME”

Braves in 5

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Lets go guys!! Its our year!! 💪

[USMA76]

An inauspicious start...

[TURBO]

"We are in danger"

[jsebe10]

TDA cost him a strike vs Brantley…and the ump did too.

[Metaphysicist]

A dink and a BB due to getting squeezed followed by a swinging K. Honestly not that bad so far.

[CrazyTrain]

Better have a tight zone for Greinke.

[Metaphysicist]

The ump is just not giving him anything.

[jsebe10]

This umpire man.

[USMA76]

We've seen what the ump's zone looks like for us. Let's see what he calls a strike with their pitchers. So far, he sucks.

[jsebe10]

Go get his nervous ass

[CyYoung31]

Kyle Wright coming in with the bases loaded. This seems like something that will work out.

[bravesfanforlife88]

https://media.makeameme.org/created/well-were-screwed-5c2f6a.jpg

[bravesnumberone]

Probably the first real blunder by Snit this series.

[Metaphysicist]

That walk... that's on him. None of that was competitive.

LET'S GO POSTSEASON ACE KYLE WRIGHT

[Southcack77]

Well, this plan seemed odd and it certainly didn't work out.

[USMA76]

Kyle Wright coming in with the bases loaded. This seems like something that will work out.

You're obviously a lot more optimistic about our prospects at this juncture than I am.

[Hudson2]

It puzzled me why Lee was the starter.

[jsebe10]

What a fckn waste and senseless start…Basically started him to load the bases for yhe already head case Kyle Wright who will either walk in a run or give up a bases clearing 2B

[atl717]

Got way too cute. Put a guy with no experience up there and set him up to fail. Now bringing in a bad pitcher with terrible control with the bases loaded. It should have been Smyly or Chavez.

[Garmel]

I don't understand why Chavez didn't get the start.

[Five]

Snit outsniterked himself

[jsebe10]

Probably the first real blunder by Snit this series.

That was blundered about 8 hours before first pitch.

[Metaphysicist]

Meh, Lee wasn't sharp but he could have been out of this easily if he got a break or two. Hard to say it was a terrible call. It's not like he was getting smacked around.

[Five]

Jesus christ

[CyYoung31]

I don’t know if that was a strike, but TDA didn’t move an inch.

[thewupk]

Well we gave this hame away

[Metaphysicist]

BABIP comes for us all sometimes.

[Slippyjms]

Probably the first real blunder by Snit this series.

I wouldn’t call it a blunder. At some point we were going to have to use the middle and back of the bullpen.

[Hudson2]

We should of just started Wright.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Dylan Lee don’t have any business at the WS…

[USMA76]

Hey, a called borderline strike!

[UNCBlue012]

That’s a damn good job by Wright.

[thewupk]

1 run allowed is a victory there

[jsebe10]

Great job KW!!! Way to bail your boneheaded manager out.

[TURBO]

Hell of a job by Wright

[Metaphysicist]

KYLE WRIGHT FOR ACE

[bravesfanforlife88]

I like that Kyle Wright

[Enscheff]

Kyle wright saved a World Series game.

A sentence I’ve always wanted to say, but never thought I would.

[Hudson2]

Wright looked pretty damn good!

[USMA76]

I'll take it!

PS Dylan Lee can tell his grandkids that his ERA in the World Series was 27.0

[Coredor]

Whew. That was big. That had the potential to get really bad. Lee wasn’t all that terrible. He gave up an infield single with eyes and barely missed a couple pitches if he actually missed.

[Runnin]

Wrighted the ship.

[bravesnumberone]

Ride the hot hand with Wright while it lasts. Unless you get in an obvious scoring situation with his spot up.

[AJonesATL]

Looked pretty filthy. May not be ready yet but I am bullish on Kyle Wright

[Coredor]

How great would it be if this is where Wright finally breaks out after a few years of disappointment.

[Metaphysicist]

I love Zack Greinke but let's murder him please.

[Metaphysicist]

Eddie hitting .420 in the PS

Nice

[jsebe10]

Greinke is going to navigate through 5 tonight isn’t he?

[CrazyTrain]

Woah

[Enscheff]

Albies up there as a RHH.

[Five]

Do my eyes deceive me?!?!?!

[TURBO]

Ozzie RHH???

[drewdat]

Seems like a great time to try it

[USMA76]

Ozzie RHH???

Wild

[Enscheff]

Lee starts. Wright comes in next. Soler on the bench. Albies batting as a RHH.

Why are they treating game 4 of the World Series as a spring training game?

[Metaphysicist]

Ozzie going righty is beautiful as a choice but that was a terrible swing.

[Hudson2]

I’d like to see Ozzie hit RH more.

[CrazyTrain]

Terrible

[Southcack77]

Why would you try this, Albies, for the first time in the World Series vs a pitcher that figures to struggle anyway?

[MadduxFanII]

I'm a little disquieted by Albies getting blown away by Greinke's "fastballs" three times.

[bravesnumberone]

Don’t think this is the ideal game to be experimenting with ****

[Metaphysicist]

Empirical evidence: Ozzie should maybe stay a switch hitter.

[Hudson2]

That was ugly

[jsebe10]

Only Ozzie could make 91 look 101

[Slippyjms]

Albies has done this before this year

[Metaphysicist]

Why does Maldonado's chest protector have camo on it?

[bravesfanMatt]

Why is it so freaking quite there.

[USMA76]

Why does Maldonado's chest protector have camo on it?

It obviously distorts the umpire's view of the strike zone.

[Coredor]

Empirical evidence: Ozzie should maybe stay a switch hitter.
Maybe Spring not Fall is the time to experiment.

[Five]

Lee starts. Wright comes in next. Soler on the bench. Albies batting as a RHH.

Why are they treating game 4 of the World Series as a spring training game?
Thought the same thing.

[chop2chip]

Last time Albies did this he hit a homerun off Ryne Harper.

It seems random but I don’t hate it.

[CyYoung31]

He’s not experimenting. He does this against guys with slow breaking stuff.

[jsebe10]

Fox won’t bother showing check swing replays now.

[Metaphysicist]

This Wright guy has good stuff, I think he's got first round potential.

[jsebe10]

Completely inexcusable

[Southcack77]

He’s not experimenting. He does this against guys with slow breaking stuff.

When was the last time?

[UNCBlue012]

The hell? I know he’s one of the better hitting pitchers but that’s some silly ****. Just attack better

[bravesnumberone]

Hits to Greinke and Maldonado. We can already see where this is going.

[Southcack77]

Suboptimal.

[UNCBlue012]

Yikes, should be back-to-back free outs.

[jsebe10]

Here we go

[Metaphysicist]

Hits by a pitcher an an .081 hitter. Inauspicious.

[USMA76]

Is the entire game going to be this much of a grind?

[CrazyTrain]

Riley is so smooth.

[Enscheff]

Hello mr Riley

[Five]

Hell of a play

[Enscheff]

Is the entire game going to be this much of a grind?

Astros fans are probably whining…

Not scoring more in the 1st is why we lost the World Series.

[Hudson2]

Wow! Nice catch Riley

[jsebe10]

Let’s get some runs

[UNCBlue012]

Riley can play some defense. Damn.

[bravesnumberone]

Great play by Riley. We are actually going to score a few tonight.

[Enscheff]

Wouldn’t it be ironic if some bulk innings in the World Series kick starts Wright into the career everyone thought he’d have?

[Metaphysicist]

I never doubted you Kyle.

[Southcack77]

When was the last time?

8 career plate appearances RH vs RHP. 5 this year. 1 career hit.

[bravesnumberone]

If you get two on here, does he let Wright hit?

[Southcack77]

If you get two on here, does he let Wright hit?

2 on nobody out? Yes.

[bravesfanMatt]

Would we let Kyle hit here. Or pull him when his spot comes up for potential innings tomorrow

[USMA76]

Astros fans are probably whining…

Not scoring more in the 1st is why we lost the World Series.

I'd be ecstatic if that turned out to be the case.

[Enscheff]

I like getting Joc some swings, but not at the expense of Soler.

[Metaphysicist]

Joc the 90 mph FB down the middle is the one to hit not the one in the dirt

[msstate7]

We f'n suck against garbage pitchers

[bravesnumberone]

Set up for the classic playoff game where we get owned by the over the hill pitcher.

[Southcack77]

I guess they're surprised to be getting off speed pitches.

[UNCBlue012]

They’ve got to get to Greinke, brother is throwing 90-MPH meatballs and 74-MPH hanging curves. Lol

[msstate7]

I'd much rather face a good pitcher than trash. Trash makes us trash

[Coredor]

We look fooled on some hittable pitches. Maybe the second time through will be better.

[USMA76]

We f'n suck against garbage pitchers

OK all of you experts out there...why are having so much trouble squaring up a AA fastball? Is it due to some movement or deception that we can't see on TV or is he changing speeds masterfully, what?

[drewdat]

Run on this curveball

[UNCBlue012]

You absolutely cannot get any more unlucky than that.

[Buzzworm]

OK all of you experts out there...why are having so much trouble squaring up a AA fastball? Is it due to some movement or deception that we can't see on TV or is he changing speeds masterfully, what?

He’s pretty clearly changing speeds well.
We’ve been late on a 90mph fastball multiple times so far.
Looks like most of our hitters are guessing and sitting on something instead of just going the other way which you need to do against a junkballer

[Enscheff]

Greinke has 5 pitches and top end control/pitchability that makes it all play up.

I’m not sure why folks think the Braves should be able to just destroy him. He’s probably only going to hit once at the most, so they won’t likely get many looks at him.

[Enscheff]

I’d take Soler over all Braves hitters not named Freeman right now, so it’s a bit upsetting to see him on the bench.

[USMA76]

I’d take Soler over all Braves hitters not named Freeman right now, so it’s a bit upsetting to see him on the bench.

So I take it that you're not sold on the magical powers of Joc's pearl necklace?

[UNCBlue012]

So many bloops

[bravesnumberone]

This dude is ****ing awful

[UNCBlue012]

Dude, Kyle is painting and getting balls called

[UNCBlue012]

Another paint LMAOOO. Bro. Rigged as ****

[USMA76]

This strike zone is utter bullship.

[TURBO]

Albies is a good defender but seems slow turning 2. Maybe his throwing motion?

[drewdat]

They're going to try to break DiMaggio's streak

[Coredor]

Joe said somebody’s going to have to punch a hole in that mask eventually. Lol

[thewupk]

Batting the pitcher 8th backfired that inning

[UNCBlue012]

Let’s go! Right pitched beautifully, even with the fix

[bravesnumberone]

Great pitching Kyle. **** this umpire. Alright offense he’s throwing 90 straight as an arrow. ****ing hit it.

[Enscheff]

A little surprised they didn’t go for the kill shot there. Time to put in some work on greinke.

[USMA76]

Another uneventful top of the inning...[breathing into a paper bag].

[Bluedevilruss]

Kyle going to hit here?

[Metaphysicist]

Batting the pitcher 8th backfired that inning

I mean, Greinke is a better hitter than Maldonado.

[bravesfanMatt]

He is at 40 something pitches. It might be time to let him carry some innings. But I would pinch hit personally

[bravesfanforlife88]

Snitker punting this AB?

[Metaphysicist]

69

nice

[bravesfanMatt]

That was a hanger to Kyle.

[USMA76]

69

nice

It usually is.

[Enscheff]

Pretty clear both managers are prioritizing pitched innings tonight

[Enscheff]

Damn that was a good play

[CyYoung31]

I came back from the bathroom and saw Kyle Wright striking out. Why?

[jsebe10]

Nice job Fred

[UNCBlue012]

The hell are you swinging at that, Freddie? What an awful change up.

[Coredor]

Pretty clear both managers are prioritizing pitched innings tonight
I think it’s the right call given we will likely be using the pen heavily tomorrow and Wright has been effective.

[CyYoung31]

Guys, nothing has changed. Wright still sucks. Not PH was a mistake.

[chop2chip]

Damn that was a good play

It really was. With the runner going that had 1st and 3rd written all over it. Altuve and Correa is best in class up the middle.

[bravesnumberone]

Our regulars are having horrible swings and people bitching about Wright hitting in the bottom of the third.

[UNCBlue012]

They’re just mainly confused by ZG. Freddie didn't see a strike the entire at-bat, was down 0-2, found some patience and then hit into a double play on an awful change up. Good thing it’s super early

[Coredor]

Guys, nothing has changed. Wright still sucks. Not PH was a mistake.
Maybe.but I give him a better chance than Chavez or Smyly.

[bravesfanMatt]

Hope Kyle can get through this next inning. We will score in the bottom half.

[USMA76]

Hope Kyle can get through this next inning. We will score in the bottom half.

Prediction noted.

[bravesnumberone]

Saw that one coming. He jumps on those early in the count.

[USMA76]

Altuve doubles the lead.

[drewdat]

Cheating trash

[WaitingFor2017]

Punt the PA and then allow a home run. Sounds about Wright.

[chop2chip]

It’s okay. Solo home runs can’t sink you.

[drewdat]

If Manfred had an ounce of integrity, half these dudes would be doing autograph shows with Pete Rose

[USMA76]

Cheating trash

What was the name of the Sesame Street character that lived in a trash can?

[UNCBlue012]

Altuve is so good and I really can’t stand him

[CyYoung31]

Maybe.but I give him a better chance than Chavez or Smyly.

I don’t. Chavez is way better than Wright.

[bravesnumberone]

Wright has done his job. It might be nice if this team could actually hit a straight 90 mph pitch.

[Slippyjms]

What was the name of the Sesame Street character that lived in a trash can?

Oscar the grouch

[chop2chip]

Homerun aside… Wright is doing his part.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

If Manfred had an ounce of integrity, half these dudes would be doing autograph shows with Pete Rose

He should suspend them for minimum 1 year.

[mfree80]

Still in reach. We will score more than two.

[Five]

I don’t. Chavez is way better than Wright.
Gotta figure he’s starting tomorrow.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Still in reach. We will score more than two. I told my wife before the game start if we can win this game from behind that may crush Astros. Lets go!

[cajunrevenge]

I see my nightmares have come true.

[USMA76]

Oscar the grouch

So then it's Oscar Altuve.

[The Chosen One]

Why did Ozzie decide to do bat RH v. RH

[chop2chip]

This has been by far the worst strike zone of the World Series.

[drewdat]

What if in 1919 the umpires had pushed the White Sox to win the World Series anyways?

[UNCBlue012]

The fix is really in lol

[chop2chip]

Why did Ozzie decide to do bat RH v. RH

Hit that last ball 105 mph.

[bravesfanMatt]

No doubt our score card streak will be in tact.

[msstate7]

We f'N deserve to lose. Good teams don't let Grienke shut them down in 2021

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Let’s go my MVP!!

[bravesfanMatt]

Joc hitting here really ticks me off. Prove me wrong Joc.

[bravesnumberone]

Not our night. Completely let him off the hook

[Garmel]

Playing Pederson over Soler is really paying dividends.

[USMA76]

Ho-hum Braves hit into another inning ending double play.

[CJ9]

Our offense has completely disappeared after that first inning of game one.

[bravesnumberone]

5 runs in our last 27 trips to the plate.

[msstate7]

F the braves! Can't let s caveman pitcher beat you! You f'n suck, braves

[chop2chip]

Joc over Soler when Grienke has reverse splits was the first time I felt the Braves out smarted themselves this series.

[zitothebrave]

Holy Crap the double plays are stupid.

[UNCBlue012]

Dude, these ****ers have to actually try against this dude. You are in the World Series stop screwing around

[AJonesATL]

Love Joc but that should be Soler right there. Why are we getting cute, Soler was arguably the biggest reason we became good. He’s been a force and looks great at the plate. Joc clearly struggling. That move has already cost us 3 outs today and we are in the 4th inning

[msstate7]

Not our night. Completely let him off the hook

Well if it isn't out night, it isn't our season. Good teams don't let total trash beat them

[msstate7]

Get joc out the game. Trash player

[chop2chip]

Well if it isn't out night, it isn't our season. Good teams don't let total trash beat them

Dude. Your team is up 2-1 in the World Series. What are you even shouting at?

[Freshmaker]

Rough to see us hitting into all of these double plays. Time to break out the Macallan. Still plenty of time left, obviously. Great outing by Wright so far. I know he gave up the Yack, but this should be a nice confidence booster for him

[USMA76]

I realize I'm beating a horse with rigor mortis but I'm so fed up with pitches that are strikes to our hitters but balls to theirs.

[msstate7]

Dude. Your team is up 2-1 in the World Series. What are you even shouting at?

I'm f'n mad. If we lose to the ghost of Grienke, we aren't winning this series

[Enscheff]

Wright executed a backfoot slider, and hell froze over.

[chop2chip]

I'm f'n mad. If we lose to the ghost of Grienke, we aren't winning this series
We will be tied 2-2. With the starting pitching advantage in 2 of the 3 games.

[AJonesATL]

Ironic - the pitching has kept us in the game. Hitting hasn’t delivered

[chop2chip]

Even if we lose, this start by Wright was huge. The path to the 6th inning tomorrow is much easier.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Soler is not a bench player, Albies batting right handed and Dylan Lee is not a World Series material. Snitker manager of the century! 🤓

[msstate7]

We will be tied 2-2. With the starting pitching advantage in 2 of the 3 games.

Look, I'm drunk and mad... don't talk sense to me

[The Chosen One]

wow Ozzie.

Dans yesterday.

[bravesnumberone]

Second ****ing night in a row

[USMA76]

Didn't we see that same sequence at second base last night? Sheesh.

[msstate7]

Loss!

[Freshmaker]

Why does every attempt to catch a base stealer end up in the outfield

[UNCBlue012]

Little league stuff

[mfree80]

Ozzie

[Metaphysicist]

Do we not practice catching those throws?

[mfree80]

Ozzie should have caught that

[Enscheff]

Wright has been squeezed all night

[UNCBlue012]

How is that a ball?

[Freshmaker]

Only half paying attention. Did we just intentionally walk a righty to bring up a lefty?

[drewdat]

Crooked ump

[UNCBlue012]

Another perfect pitch

[Enscheff]

2 in a row

[Freshmaker]

that was strike 2 geeze

[chop2chip]

Worst zone of the playoffs. This so bad

[drewdat]

We should intentionally walk this guy too, the ump will do it anyways

[Metaphysicist]

Some day Wright will get a call on the corner. Someday.

[msstate7]

If Grienke beats you in 2021, you're garbages akd deserve to lose

[chop2chip]

Worst of 3 called a strike lmao

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Jesus they call those for sure to the Astros. 😡

[Freshmaker]

that was strike 2 geeze

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[bravesnumberone]

Huge pitching from Wright tonight if nothing else. Sorry ass offense has turned into nut sack.

[UNCBlue012]

Given how tight the zone has been, this was an incredible start the Kyle Wright.

[AJonesATL]

can the offense wake up? Would be nice to have a pinch hit Soler eclipse while we are at it.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Kyle Wright need a whole season to gain experience. He is doing a great job tonight.

[Runnin]

Kyle wright saved a World Series game.

A sentence I’ve always wanted to say, but never thought I would.

The boy has become a man in this game.

[msstate7]

can the offense wake up? Would be nice to have a pinch hit Soler eclipse while we are at it.

No, they can't. Great teams don't lose to trash pitchers like Grienke

[jsebe10]

Marin warming up…we are definitely punting this game

[msstate7]

Trash teams lose

[bravesnumberone]

5 runs in 28 innings.

[Garmel]

That same pitch has been a ball for Kyle all night.