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msstate7
05-29-2022, 10:49 AM
Acuna rf
Swanson
Ozuna lf
Riley
Olson
TDA c
Ozzie
Contreras DH
Harris cf

Max fried starting

Slippyjms
05-29-2022, 11:23 AM
Nice to start to see the actual lineup coming together. If only Ozuna wasn’t garbage.

Garmel
05-29-2022, 11:32 AM
1530944319665881089

msstate7
05-29-2022, 11:34 AM
Nice to start to see the actual lineup coming together. If only Ozuna wasn’t garbage.

.356 xwoba, .285 wOBA
.244 babip
K rate isn't high

I think he's gonna be ok

msstate7
05-29-2022, 11:34 AM
1530944319665881089

Wonder how many pitches he'll be allowed.

ETA... wonder if he's an opener or they actually gonna let em go awhile

Garmel
05-29-2022, 11:36 AM
Wonder how many pitches he'll be allowed

That's a good question. I'd like to see him get through 5 but I'm not sure he can go that far.

The Chosen One
05-29-2022, 11:56 AM
Wonder how many pitches he'll be allowed.

ETA... wonder if he's an opener or they actually gonna let em go awhile

Knowing Snit he'll let him go over 80 pitches or 4 innings. Whichever comes last.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 12:20 PM
TDA gonna have a big day

msstate7
05-29-2022, 12:38 PM
Dansby can be frustrating as hell offensively, but if he walks, I'm gonna miss his defense

msstate7
05-29-2022, 12:40 PM
1-0 shouldn't be so concerning to me

msstate7
05-29-2022, 12:46 PM
Come on braves... need some runs

msstate7
05-29-2022, 12:52 PM
Atta boy, ozuna

msstate7
05-29-2022, 12:53 PM
Riley, you have got to quit trying to pull everything

ETA... Riley, you have got to keep pulling everything

Garmel
05-29-2022, 01:00 PM
Riley, you have got to quit trying to pull everything

ETA... Riley, you have got to keep pulling everything

lol

Enscheff
05-29-2022, 01:00 PM
Olson has by far the highest OBP of any qualified hitter on the roster. He is batting 5th because he had a rough stretch and Snit is a dinosaur trying to catch the hot hand. Oh well.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:01 PM
Olson has by far the highest OBP of any qualified hitter on the roster. He is batting 5th because he had a rough stretch and Snit is a dinosaur trying to catch the hot hand. Oh well.

And you have 4 RHHs at the top of the lineup. He should be between those guys somewhere

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:02 PM
With Acuna and Harris out there, I expect less bloopers to fall

Enscheff
05-29-2022, 01:04 PM
The top 4 need to be Acuna, Olson, Ozuna and Riley. Period. They are the 4 best hitters, though Contreras may be making a case for himself.

Slippyjms
05-29-2022, 01:05 PM
Olson has by far the highest OBP of any qualified hitter on the roster. He is batting 5th because he had a rough stretch and Snit is a dinosaur trying to catch the hot hand. Oh well.

If that’s the case why is Contreras hitting 8th then?

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:06 PM
If that’s the case why is Contreras hitting 8th then?

The Book likes hot hands, but isn't crazy about young guys

thewupk
05-29-2022, 01:14 PM
nice ab albies

Enscheff
05-29-2022, 01:14 PM
This PA is a perfect snapshot of Albies. Plus plus bat control with poor plate discipline. Should have been a walk, instead turned into a 13 pitch double.

thewupk
05-29-2022, 01:15 PM
Contreras is so good

Garmel
05-29-2022, 01:15 PM
Damn, Contreras.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:15 PM
I'm not sweating langeliers as much these days

Enscheff
05-29-2022, 01:16 PM
This lineup just got very interesting with Harris in CF and Contreras at DH. If Ozunas defense truly is better than it appears fro the eye test, and Contreras continues to be legit, this lineup is going to be potent.

thewupk
05-29-2022, 01:21 PM
Harris and Acuna are bums

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:22 PM
Man, this team can be frustrating. Runner at 2nd 0 outs, and he doesn't score

thewupk
05-29-2022, 01:22 PM
Man, this team can be frustrating. Runner at 2nd 0 outs, and he doesn't score

Albies did score though

bravesnumberone
05-29-2022, 01:23 PM
Man, this team can be frustrating. Runner at 2nd 0 outs, and he doesn't score

This is the reason the team is 22-25.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:30 PM
Albies did score though

Lol, the 2nd runner at 2nd with 0 outs

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:31 PM
This is the reason the team is 22-25.

I think this is the week the braves get over .500 for good

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:35 PM
.356 xwoba, .285 wOBA
.244 babip
K rate isn't high

I think he's gonna be ok

I say 100 stupid things in every game thread, so I'm gonna bump my good ones haha

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:42 PM
We got us a CF now

Hudson2
05-29-2022, 01:42 PM
This lineup just got very interesting with Harris in CF and Contreras at DH. If Ozunas defense truly is better than it appears fro the eye test, and Contreras continues to be legit, this lineup is going to be potent.

I think Rosario will be fine when he gets back. The eyes being a huge problem with how bad his defense was makes a ton of sense.

Hudson2
05-29-2022, 01:42 PM
Damn nice catch Harris! He almost caught it barehanded.

Hudson2
05-29-2022, 01:43 PM
Duval doesn’t catch that ball.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:43 PM
Harris may have messed his hand up

Hudson2
05-29-2022, 01:45 PM
Harris may have messed his hand up

He’s pulling on his fingers like he jammed em. He won’t say anything though bc he just got here.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:47 PM
He’s pulling on his fingers like he jammed em. He won’t say anything though bc he just got here.

Glad he's selling out, but I hope that doesn't zap all this offense. You right, he won't tell a soul he hurt haha

msstate7
05-29-2022, 01:52 PM
Harris hits a buncha ground balls to left side. Maybe he can get those balls on a line

bravesnumberone
05-29-2022, 02:09 PM
Inability to put hitters away.

TURBO
05-29-2022, 02:09 PM
Why can't we have easy games?

Hudson2
05-29-2022, 02:20 PM
I thought Olson got that one

msstate7
05-29-2022, 02:20 PM
Uh oh, ozuna, Riley, and Olson may be about to explode

msstate7
05-29-2022, 02:22 PM
I've ripped Olson unmercifully this season, but I abosulutely love seeing how happy he is to be here.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 02:23 PM
Come on Travis

msstate7
05-29-2022, 02:31 PM
Come on max, I wanna use Stephens, will, and Cruz today

mfree80
05-29-2022, 02:32 PM
I've ripped Olson unmercifully this season, but I abosulutely love seeing how happy he is to be here.

He looked a little less than enthusiastic with the chop... Not really consistent with his personality.

TURBO
05-29-2022, 02:34 PM
Come on max, I wanna use Stephens, will, and Cruz today

Stephens has been really good thisyear. Wonder if he can keep it going?

mfree80
05-29-2022, 02:35 PM
Stephens has been really good thisyear. Wonder if he can keep it going?

Stephens and Lee have both been pleasant surprises.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 02:36 PM
Stephens has been really good thisyear. Wonder if he can keep it going?

Not sure, that's one of the reasons I want him to face their best with a good lead

Enscheff
05-29-2022, 02:36 PM
I think Rosario will be fine when he gets back. The eyes being a huge problem with how bad his defense was makes a ton of sense.

Except for the fact Rosario was never very good, I agree with all of this.

Again, he was given away for nothing 10 months ago, and then had 1 good month in a Braves uniform.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 02:40 PM
Except for the fact Rosario was never very good, I agree with all of this.

Again, he was given away for nothing 10 months ago, and then had 1 good month in a Braves uniform.

Hasn't he been good Vs rhp though? Maybe platoon him with duvall

Enscheff
05-29-2022, 02:47 PM
Hasn't he been good Vs rhp though? Maybe platoon him with duvall

Maybe, but if Contreras has somewhat unexpectedly turned into a legit .800+ OPS hitter, then he has to take the bulk of the DH PAs. At that point we might have to just cringe while Ozuna lobs balls in from LF.

striker42
05-29-2022, 02:52 PM
Maybe, but if Contreras has somewhat unexpectedly turned into a legit .800+ OPS hitter, then he has to take the bulk of the DH PAs. At that point we might have to just cringe while Ozuna lobs balls in from LF.

I'm not 100% convinced Contreras wouldn't be better than Ozuna in left.

TURBO
05-29-2022, 02:55 PM
Never easy

TURBO
05-29-2022, 02:56 PM
I feel like half of Soler's HRs have been against us.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 02:56 PM
I'm not 100% convinced Contreras wouldn't be better than Ozuna in left.

Contreras was really bad there vs Phillies. If we gonna make that move, send him to AAA to learn

bravesnumberone
05-29-2022, 02:56 PM
Yet another day where we're going to have to use our top pen guys.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 02:56 PM
I feel like half of Soler's HRs have been against us.

He might be our addition at a the break

WaitingFor2017
05-29-2022, 02:56 PM
Come on max, I wanna use Stephens, will, and Cruz today


So much for Cruz today. You may see Will Smith and Kenley Jansen now unless Atlanta scores a couple more runs.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 03:05 PM
Come on braves... don't blow this

USMA76
05-29-2022, 03:06 PM
I feel like half of Soler's HRs have been against us.

When Soler hits a ball, it stays hit.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 03:09 PM
Chip trying to talk up a marlins HR

msstate7
05-29-2022, 03:10 PM
Got it, but that was ugly

thewupk
05-29-2022, 03:17 PM
Might win a series

striker42
05-29-2022, 03:19 PM
Contreras was really bad there vs Phillies. If we gonna make that move, send him to AAA to learn

Ozuna ain't winning any gold gloves out there and at least Contreras has an arm.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 03:21 PM
Ozuna ain't winning any gold gloves out there and at least Contreras has an arm.

Did you watch that game be started in lf?

msstate7
05-29-2022, 03:34 PM
Heredia isn't even a def. Replacement now. He's useless

USMA76
05-29-2022, 03:40 PM
Aguilar walks on ball five.

bravesnumberone
05-29-2022, 03:40 PM
Nibble nibble.

TURBO
05-29-2022, 03:44 PM
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CrimsonCowboy
05-29-2022, 03:45 PM
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WaitingFor2017
05-29-2022, 03:58 PM
Heredia isn't even a def. Replacement now. He's useless

Probably here until Rosario is back -- unless Harris struggles badly enough to be sent back down.

striker42
05-29-2022, 04:11 PM
Did you watch that game be started in lf?

Not gonna judge him on one game. Suffice to say it doesn't matter if it's him or Ozuna out there, defense ain't gonna be good.

CrimsonCowboy
05-29-2022, 04:30 PM
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buck75
05-29-2022, 05:00 PM
Olson tied Freeman as the NL’s doubles leader with 18.

thewupk
05-29-2022, 05:05 PM
Olson tied Freeman as the NL’s doubles leader with 18.

Knew they were equal

thewupk
05-29-2022, 05:06 PM
Olson tied Freeman as the NL’s doubles leader with 18.

Actually Olson leads all of MLB with 20 right now

Deester11
05-29-2022, 05:17 PM
Actually Olson leads all of MLB with 20 right now

But...but....leadership...

msstate7
05-29-2022, 05:34 PM
But...but....leadership...

Still a lot of season left, but FF has been much, much better...
fWAR: ff 2.2, Olson 0.9

msstate7
05-29-2022, 06:23 PM
Effin Mets are unstoppable

Hulavol
05-29-2022, 06:29 PM
Nice series fellas

thewupk
05-29-2022, 06:34 PM
Still a lot of season left, but FF has been much, much better...
fWAR: ff 2.2, Olson 0.9

And he didn't want to be here.

The baseball change has really ****ed Olson over among others.

thewupk
05-29-2022, 06:34 PM
Effin Mets are unstoppable

Braves need to worry about getting to 500 first.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 06:39 PM
And he didn't want to be here.

The baseball change has really ****ed Olson over among others.

I don't know if he wanted to be here or not. I thought it was more he thought he had more leverage than he did. I was fine with getting Olson, but we've clearly downgraded significantly SO FAR

msstate7
05-29-2022, 06:40 PM
Braves need to worry about getting to 500 first.

If the Mets keep winning, it doesn't matter what the braves do. We absolutely should be worried about them. Not sure why that even needs explaining

msstate7
05-29-2022, 06:44 PM
Mets are 28th in barrels, 24th in hard hit %, and 2nd in babip

thewupk
05-29-2022, 06:46 PM
Mets are 28th in barrels, 24th in hard hit %, and 2nd in babip

It won't last

CyYoung31
05-29-2022, 06:46 PM
Mets are 28th in barrels, 24th in hard hit %, and 2nd in babip

Yep, but apparently that’s the name of the game with this new baseball.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 06:52 PM
It won't last

I hope not, but check this out...

Stolen from my miss state message board...

the mets have about a 7ish year cycle give or take a year:

Year 1: Awful
Year 2: Awful
Year 3: Awful with new IL record
Year 4: Awful
Year 5: Awful
Year 6: Awful
Year 7: Team of destiny

Going back to 86 this is pretty accurate give or take a year.
86: Champs
93: trash
00: Lost WS
06: Lost NLCS; 07: collapsed only like the Mets know how
15: Lost WS
22: These mfs.

LFGM. (Sorry but I can't stand Atlanta sports and Seaver / Strawberry / Piazza / Wright / deGrom have been much more likable for me)

msstate7
05-29-2022, 06:53 PM
Yep, but apparently that’s the name of the game with this new baseball.

Mlb, "what can we do to make the game better? Let's frick with the balls to where garbage contact is more valuable than hard"

msstate7
05-29-2022, 07:00 PM
And of course, we have a guy making his first start vs a guy with a 2.81 FIP tomorrow night lol

bravesnumberone
05-29-2022, 07:07 PM
I’m more concerned for now about this team showing it can actually string together several wins in a row. 19 games against the Diamondbacks, Rockies, Oakland, Pirates, Nationals, Cubs coming up. This needs to be a 14-5 type stretch.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 07:11 PM
I’m more concerned for now about this team showing it can actually string together several wins in a row. 19 games against the Diamondbacks, Rockies, Oakland, Pirates, Nationals, Cubs coming up. This needs to be a 14-5 type stretch.

I'm pretty optimistic tonight... I think the braves are gonna be just fine. I expect Olson, ozuna, Riley, and Ozzie are gonna get hot together soon, and the braves are gonna make a run

USMA76
05-29-2022, 07:12 PM
I'm just not that impressed with the Mets. Sure they're good and I wish we had their record but they don't strike me as some sort of juggernaut. If they can keep this pace, we're out of it. However, I'll believe it when I see them do it over the course of a season.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 07:15 PM
I'm just not that impressed with the Mets. Sure they're good and I wish we had their record but they don't strike me as some sort of juggernaut. If they can keep this pace, we're out of it. However, I'll believe it when I see them do it over the course of a season.

Gotta hope their pitching staff doesn't get healthy. If they add degrom and scherzer back, it's gonna be tough to catch them

USMA76
05-29-2022, 07:37 PM
Gotta hope their pitching staff doesn't get healthy. If they add degrom and scherzer back, it's gonna be tough to catch them

deGrom yes but he'll be coming in cold in the middle of the season so I doubt he'll be his vintage self immediately. As far as Scherzer, I think the Mets may have rolled the wrong dice on a (almost) 38 year old power pitcher as those guys don't tend to age well no matter how impressive "the back of their baseball card" is.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 08:37 PM
Mets just lost a reliever for a while, drew smith (2.57 era)

thewupk
05-29-2022, 08:59 PM
And of course, we have a guy making his first start vs a guy with a 2.81 FIP tomorrow night lol

Strider has a 1.46 FIP though

msstate7
05-29-2022, 09:05 PM
Strider has a 1.46 FIP though

I have no worries for his 1st 2 innings. Just not so sure that 3rd inning or 2nd time thru

msstate7
05-29-2022, 09:14 PM
Maybe things are about to go our way

Garmel
05-29-2022, 09:40 PM
That didn't take long. Freaking Mets.

msstate7
05-29-2022, 09:41 PM
Effin Mets

msstate7
05-29-2022, 09:55 PM
Mets are gonna win the east this season. They sold their soul for this season.

MadduxFanII
05-29-2022, 11:18 PM
Kenley's reminding me a little of Billy Wagner in 2010 -- the core statistics are pretty dominant (Jansen had a 1.98 FIP coming into today's game), but things seem to keep going awry. It's not a perfect comparison, since Wagner had a 1.49 ERA that year, but I was always kind of bemused by the fact that Wagner was otherworldly good that season (13.5 K/9, 2.9 BB/9, 2.10 FIP) and still blew seven saves.

MadduxFanII
05-29-2022, 11:34 PM
Also, Ozuna is now on pace for 34 home runs while being a sub-replacement level player by WAR.

Slippyjms
05-29-2022, 11:52 PM
Also, Ozuna is now on pace for 34 home runs while being a sub-replacement level player by WAR.

It hasn’t just been the defense either with him though it’s been every phase of the game.

jpx7
05-30-2022, 04:49 AM
And of course, we have a guy making his first start vs a guy with a 2.81 FIP tomorrow night lol

I'll be at the game, so I'm ok with it. Will be cool to see Strider's first start.

clvclv
05-30-2022, 06:51 AM
Also, Ozuna is now on pace for 34 home runs while being a sub-replacement level player by WAR.

The second coming of 2021 Duvall not for Adam's defense.

thewupk
05-30-2022, 07:20 AM
Also, Ozuna is now on pace for 34 home runs while being a sub-replacement level player by WAR.

Have to hope his BABIP reverses course

thewupk
05-30-2022, 07:22 AM
Swanson's 2.1 fWAR is #1 among NL shorstops and only 0.1 behind the MLB lead. Overall he's tied for 5th best WAR in the NL. Can anyone say contract year?

Slippyjms
05-30-2022, 01:38 PM
Have to hope his BABIP reverses course

I’m not sure his underlying numbers look great for that. Over the past two seasons his percentage of hard hit balls has dropped while his medium and soft hit percentage have gone up. His strikeout rate is about the same over the last 3 seasons but each year his walk rate has dropped. Not sure it speaks well for his approach.

msstate7
05-30-2022, 01:57 PM
I’m not sure his underlying numbers look great for that. Over the past two seasons his percentage of hard hit balls has dropped while his medium and soft hit percentage have gone up. His strikeout rate is about the same over the last 3 seasons but each year his walk rate has dropped. Not sure it speaks well for his approach.

Baseball savant has him in 86th percentile in hard hit %, 91st in xSLG, 89th in barrels, and 19th in chase rate. If he cleans up his pitch selection, he'll be fine

PawPawMaxwell
05-30-2022, 01:59 PM
I would almost wager that Swanson finds a West Coast home next year.

chop2chip
05-30-2022, 03:11 PM
I would almost wager that Swanson finds a West Coast home next year.

Why? I don’t think there are that many teams out west that are good fits for him.

Giants (Crawford)
San Diego (Tatis)
Texas (Seager)
Houston (Peña)
Seattle (Crawford)
Oakland (Lol)

Dodgers and Angels have their own free agents to prioritize, so it’s definitely possible I think they both would view Swanson as a plan B (or even C).

I could see Colorado and Arizona being interested in Swanson, but I don’t see why he would be interested in signing with those teams unless they offered him the most.

I still think it’s likely the Braves and Swanson work out an extension. Swanson isn’t the type who will attract huge offers in free agency. I don’t buy the Braves being in the market to shop in the tier above Dansby.

Something in the neighborhood of the Brandon Crawford contract for more years probably gets it done (four years 60 million)

PawPawMaxwell
05-30-2022, 03:34 PM
Why? I don’t think there are that many teams out west that are good fits for him.

Giants (Crawford)
San Diego (Tatis)
Texas (Seager)
Houston (Peña)
Seattle (Crawford)
Oakland (Lol)

Dodgers and Angels have their own free agents to prioritize, so it’s definitely possible I think they both would view Swanson as a plan B (or even C).

I could see Colorado and Arizona being interested in Swanson, but I don’t see why he would be interested in signing with those teams unless they offered him the most.

I still think it’s likely the Braves and Swanson work out an extension. Swanson isn’t the type who will attract huge offers in free agency. I don’t buy the Braves being in the market to shop in the tier above Dansby.

Something in the neighborhood of the Brandon Crawford contract for more years probably gets it done (four years 60 million)

You ask why? Simple answer: Girlfriend. Turner could move on, rumors about Tatis going to OF (?), LAA guy isnt getting it done IRRC.

chop2chip
05-30-2022, 03:52 PM
You ask why? Simple answer: Girlfriend. Turner could move on, rumors about Tatis going to OF (?), LAA guy isnt getting it done IRRC.

Why would she want to move to the west coast? She plays professionally in Chicago.

clvclv
05-30-2022, 04:00 PM
Why would she want to move to the west coast? She plays professionally in Chicago.

Don't complicate things by pointing out those type of facts!!! LOL.

goldfly
05-31-2022, 01:36 PM
was a good sunday

wish it would have kept going yesterday

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