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TURBO
06-02-2022, 04:27 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FURtfV-WYAweSGt?format=jpg&name=large

Slippyjms
06-02-2022, 04:36 PM
And why no Duvall vs a LHP? But Contreras definitely needs to be catching games Acuña DHs. Also has someone found a good reason Heredia is still on the roster?

TURBO
06-02-2022, 04:37 PM
And why no Duvall vs a LHP? But Contreras definitely needs to be catching games Acuña DHs. Also has someone found a good reason Heredia is still on the roster?

Swords?

WaitingFor2017
06-02-2022, 04:54 PM
AA will find a taker for Heredia in late July for a bad money deal just so the other team can DFA him in 22 minutes.

It's a SSS, but you can't even say Heredia is in there for defense in large Coors Field because Heredia's defense (so far this year) is the worst of his career (-1 OOA).

Slippyjms
06-02-2022, 05:07 PM
I don’t get why this needs to be so complicated. There basically needs to be 3 lineups

If Acuña is DH

Acuña DH
Swanson SS
Ozuna LF
Contreras C
Olson 1B
Riley 3B
Albies 2B
Duvall RF
Harris CF

If Acuña is RF

Acuña RF
Swanson SS
Ozuna LF
Contreras DH
Olson 1B
Riley 3B
Albies 2B
d’Arnaud C
Harris CF

If Acuña is out

Albies 2B
Swanson SS
Ozuna LF
Contreras DH
Olson 1B
Riley 3B
d’Arnaud C
Duvall RF
Harris CF

Mad Dog Murph
06-02-2022, 05:37 PM
Duval should not be in any lineup anywhere ever.

Hudson2
06-02-2022, 06:14 PM
Contreras should be in the lineup for sure. Heredia offers nothing of value so I’d rather have a better bat in there.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 06:24 PM
Contreras should be in the lineup for sure. Heredia offers nothing of value so I’d rather have a better bat in there.

Back-to-back starts makes me think he's being looked at as being replaced... just wanna make sure

bravesfanforlife88
06-02-2022, 06:31 PM
being 10.5 GB there is a good chance we could be sellers at the deadline rather than buyers. you remember last year we had a little streak to get us within 4 GB just before the deadline that caused us to be buyers. If we don't have that run, which guys are likely to move?

d'Arnaud
Smith
Jansen
Swanson
Duvall
Heredia
Arcia
McHugh
Chavez
Morton
O'Day

Not saying all of them would be traded, but that's the list of guys i'd suspect could be

msstate7
06-02-2022, 06:36 PM
being 10.5 GB there is a good chance we could be sellers at the deadline rather than buyers. you remember last year we had a little streak to get us within 4 GB just before the deadline that caused us to be buyers. If we don't have that run, which guys are likely to move?

d'Arnaud
Smith
Jansen
Swanson
Duvall
Heredia
Arcia
McHugh
Chavez
Morton
O'Day

Not saying all of them would be traded, but that's the list of guys i'd suspect could be

4 GB now out WC

Hudson2
06-02-2022, 06:37 PM
being 10.5 GB there is a good chance we could be sellers at the deadline rather than buyers. you remember last year we had a little streak to get us within 4 GB just before the deadline that caused us to be buyers. If we don't have that run, which guys are likely to move?

d'Arnaud
Smith
Jansen
Swanson
Duvall
Heredia
Arcia
McHugh
Chavez
Morton
O'Day

Not saying all of them would be traded, but that's the list of guys i'd suspect could be

We would have to be wayyyyy back of the WC for AA to sell. Coming off of a WS and with attendance way up that would be a nightmare. I suspect we’ll be buyers regardless of the record come the deadline.

WaitingFor2017
06-02-2022, 06:45 PM
being 10.5 GB there is a good chance we could be sellers at the deadline rather than buyers. you remember last year we had a little streak to get us within 4 GB just before the deadline that caused us to be buyers. If we don't have that run, which guys are likely to move?

d'Arnaud
Smith
Jansen
Swanson
Duvall
Heredia
Arcia
McHugh
Chavez
Morton
O'Day

Not saying all of them would be traded, but that's the list of guys i'd suspect could be


I doubt we'd sell unless we're like 10 GB in the WC, but I would try to sell:
Swanson (only if AA is serious about spending big money on the upcoming SS class)
Will Smith
Charlie Morton
Kenley Jansen

Nerfherders
06-02-2022, 06:55 PM
I will likely miss the Braves coming to town for the first time since I moved here in 2000. I have mixed emotions- Ive never missed them, and I want to celebrate the championship. On the other hand, I generally hate watching them in Coors, and they generally don't play well here (or as well as they should).

msstate7
06-02-2022, 07:47 PM
Please don't do this crap tonight

msstate7
06-02-2022, 07:51 PM
Looks like we can find something else to do tonight

jsebe10
06-02-2022, 07:55 PM
I cannot wait to see the Mets get the ole pink panty pull down in LA these next 4 games.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:03 PM
Heredia doesn't wanna get sent to pasture

WaitingFor2017
06-02-2022, 08:03 PM
Maybe I should trash Heredia more often.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:04 PM
Maybe I should trash Heredia more often.

That's my motto...

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:04 PM
That's a hit, right? Give 'em a hit

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:06 PM
Come on scorer

thewupk
06-02-2022, 08:10 PM
3 runs...i like it

WaitingFor2017
06-02-2022, 08:10 PM
Off-topic but Sandy Alcantara is a different beast. He shut the Giants out in 7 IP tonight.

Dansbae continues hitting.

thewupk
06-02-2022, 08:11 PM
Acuna deked them hard

USMA76
06-02-2022, 08:13 PM
Acuna deked them hard

Dude's talent level is off the charts.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:13 PM
3 runs...i like it

Innings where TDA, heredia, and Harris hit are money innings

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:14 PM
Ozuna, you don't have to swing at balls 5" off the ground

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:23 PM
That was nice, Ian

CyYoung31
06-02-2022, 08:28 PM
Albies still hasn’t homered since April.

thewupk
06-02-2022, 08:29 PM
There we go

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:29 PM
Our catchers are hitting fools

USMA76
06-02-2022, 08:30 PM
TDA says "dead ball this."

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:32 PM
Come on Ian

Runnin
06-02-2022, 08:33 PM
I've finally joined the Chip Sucks bandwagon. Man, is that guy annoying to listen to. He talks way, way too much and his explanations are like a broken record. I listen to the other team's announcers every game.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:35 PM
I can't believe ozuna fielded that

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:36 PM
Nice job on that by Riley

Runnin
06-02-2022, 08:37 PM
I can't believe ozuna fielded that

He couldn't either. His face said "I almost f'd up."

jsebe10
06-02-2022, 08:40 PM
That Rodgers kid is going to be a baller in this park.

CyYoung31
06-02-2022, 08:43 PM
He hit it in the air.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:45 PM
I'm ready for Acuna to get healthy and play everyday. .814 ops isn't bad, but he's so much better than that... has to be bc he's in and out of lineup

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:54 PM
Duvall doesn't make that play

thewupk
06-02-2022, 08:57 PM
Riley smoked that

thewupk
06-02-2022, 08:59 PM
albies is a machine

msstate7
06-02-2022, 08:59 PM
Olson, break em right here

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:00 PM
Crap

thewupk
06-02-2022, 09:00 PM
Olson needs to quit hitting it there

thewupk
06-02-2022, 09:01 PM
Would have scored 3. ****ing sucks

thewupk
06-02-2022, 09:01 PM
lmfao. **** yeah TD

CyYoung31
06-02-2022, 09:01 PM
Dude, Olson is snake bitten.

Hudson2
06-02-2022, 09:01 PM
TDA with a slam! 6 rbi on the day and 2 homers

USMA76
06-02-2022, 09:01 PM
Crap

TDA didn't waste any time making up for Olson's bad luck.

WaitingFor2017
06-02-2022, 09:01 PM
d'Arnaud Topps Now Card coming next week for those who play MLB The Show.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:02 PM
TDA saw Contreras, and said hell naw

USMA76
06-02-2022, 09:03 PM
TDA saw Contreras, and said hell naw

The thought had occurred to me.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:04 PM
Could the braves get back to 0 or positive in RD tonight? -10 entering tonight

thewupk
06-02-2022, 09:05 PM
TDA started the night with a 90 WRC+. He's at 109 now.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:06 PM
TDA started the night with a 90 WRC+. He's at 109 now.

Where do you get those real time stats?

clvclv
06-02-2022, 09:09 PM
The BJ - and lots of other criticisms - just become more hilarious everytime you hear them.

Exactly which metric - or statistic - told you playing d'Arnaud and Heredia was a better idea rather than playing Contreras coming off a 3 hit night and Heredia instead of Duvall coming off a night when he FINALLY squared pitches up and barreled them other than "your gut"???

Give me an effing break!!!

thewupk
06-02-2022, 09:11 PM
Where do you get those real time stats?

It's on each players fangraphs page

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:11 PM
That's 65 straight hits for Blackmon vs the braves

thewupk
06-02-2022, 09:12 PM
time to get Anderson out of here

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:12 PM
3rd time thru... Anderson becomes me

USMA76
06-02-2022, 09:13 PM
Yep, we're in Colorado.

CyYoung31
06-02-2022, 09:14 PM
No lead is safe in this park.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:15 PM
Snit is gonna go for 6 innings with Ian. Let's hope it works out

Garmel
06-02-2022, 09:15 PM
3rd time thru... Anderson becomes me

To be fair in a real park these 3 runs this inning don't happen.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:16 PM
To be fair in a real park these 3 runs this inning don't happen.

Probably true, but he's been really bad 3rd time thru in every park

Garmel
06-02-2022, 09:17 PM
Probably true, but he's been really bad 3rd time thru in every park

Yeah, he has been bad.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:17 PM
Get a run or 2 back, braves

Slippyjms
06-02-2022, 09:19 PM
I find it amazing that anyone could look worse in the OF than Ozuna

Runnin
06-02-2022, 09:20 PM
The BJ - and lots of other criticisms - just become more hilarious everytime you hear them.

Exactly which metric - or statistic - told you playing d'Arnaud and Heredia was a better idea rather than playing Contreras coming off a 3 hit night and Heredia instead of Duvall coming off a night when he FINALLY squared pitches up and barreled them other than "your gut"???

Give me an effing break!!!

Sitting a guy for a game after a good game does NOT stop the run. It actually lets them live with that good feeling an extra day. If they're truly swinging good and making progress, they'll be the same after a day off.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:21 PM
I find it amazing that anyone could look worse in the OF than Ozuna

Gotta get Acuna healthy

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:22 PM
I didn't think either of those were struck well hah

Hudson2
06-02-2022, 09:25 PM
I think the guys have finally broke out of their slump. Mets should be worried even with a big lead.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:25 PM
Riley is pretty good

Hudson2
06-02-2022, 09:28 PM
Olson didn’t hit it at Cron!

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:28 PM
Atta boy, Olson

CyYoung31
06-02-2022, 09:29 PM
I think the guys have finally broke out of their slump. Mets should be worried even with a big lead.

https://c.tenor.com/mpSXeLNwUScAAAAC/pulp-fiction-winston-wolfe.gif

USMA76
06-02-2022, 09:30 PM
Get a run or 2 back, braves

Okay, you have two wishes left.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:31 PM
I'd give ian this inning

Hudson2
06-02-2022, 09:32 PM
Let Ian pitch here to save the bullpen

clvclv
06-02-2022, 09:37 PM
"Sitting a guy for a game after a good game does NOT stop the run. It actually lets them live with that good feeling an extra day. If they're truly swinging good and making progress, they'll be the same after a day off."


The NUMBERS might reflect that - I'm too lazy to go back to see how many people pronounced tonight a loss before the first pitch was thrown without Contreras in the lineup. I actually got 4 texts saying that exactly.

There's a reason you play the numbers rather than the "hot hand" - the folks in Vegas and elsewhere aren't going broke anytime soon, and most of them live a *elluva lot better life than most of us do!!! LOL

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:37 PM
Damn, That was sweet

CyYoung31
06-02-2022, 09:38 PM
Wow. Swanson is ridiculous.

Hudson2
06-02-2022, 09:40 PM
Thanks God for the offense bc Ian hasn’t had a good game.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:41 PM
Get this out, Ian.

Who would you use next inning?

CyYoung31
06-02-2022, 09:42 PM
I think the guys have finally broke out of their slump. Mets should be worried even with a big lead.


Let Ian pitch here to save the bullpen


Thanks God for the offense bc Ian hasn’t had a good game.

You seem to not understand that they’re playing in Coors Field tonight.

Hudson2
06-02-2022, 09:42 PM
Probably Lee

Garmel
06-02-2022, 09:43 PM
Thanks God for the offense bc Ian hasn’t had a good game.

You can easily knock off 3-4 runs due to Coors field. He pitched much better than what the line says.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:43 PM
Stephens would be my choice next inning

Hulavol
06-02-2022, 09:44 PM
Travis D ….. have you a game

Runnin
06-02-2022, 09:47 PM
There's a reason you play the numbers rather than the "hot hand" - the folks in Vegas and elsewhere aren't going broke anytime soon, and most of them live a *elluva lot better life than most of us do!!! LOL

I think it's more about getting everybody a bunch of ABs in Colorado.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:48 PM
Acuna is the RH Michael Harris

CyYoung31
06-02-2022, 09:49 PM
That was a beautiful swing by Harris.

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:52 PM
Please don't use a position player to pitch. The braves suck for 3-4 games after they see a position player

msstate7
06-02-2022, 09:53 PM
If you have an 8-run lead in the 9th, would you consider putting Contreras in LF for some experience?

msstate7
06-02-2022, 10:02 PM
Gotta get that Harris if you can get there

thewupk
06-02-2022, 10:07 PM
Riley is hitting really well right now

thewupk
06-02-2022, 10:13 PM
Riley and Acuna both lead the team in WRC+ at 138. Olson at 133.

Runnin
06-02-2022, 10:15 PM
86 mph 4 seam fastball...

but from the hip.

TURBO
06-02-2022, 10:39 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/vzuqin231fC92/giphy.gif

CrimsonCowboy
06-02-2022, 10:39 PM
https://wompimages-azureedge-net.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w820/s/wompimages.azureedge.net/fetchimage?url=https://i.chzbgr.com/full/6806376192/h13D80AD0/gif-of-the-day-elephant-jumping-on-a-trampoline

WaitingFor2017
06-02-2022, 10:41 PM
Just a note that tomorrow's game is an Apple TV Plus game. Last time, Brian Jordan was the "analyst" for the game, but it was a home game. I'm not sure if he'll be the "analyst" again or if they'll go with a former Colorado Rockie for this game.

Hulavol
06-02-2022, 11:24 PM
As I understand it, it’ll be a former Rockies playa….

zbhargrove
06-03-2022, 01:52 AM
Just a note that tomorrow's game is an Apple TV Plus game. Last time, Brian Jordan was the "analyst" for the game, but it was a home game. I'm not sure if he'll be the "analyst" again or if they'll go with a former Colorado Rockie for this game.

Its a shame they picked BJ last broadcast because I thought the Apple TV broadcast itself was A+

msstate7
06-03-2022, 06:11 AM
9.5 back in division
3 back in WC
110 games to go

bravesfanforlife88
06-03-2022, 06:38 AM
9.5 back in division
3 back in WC
110 games to go

The only true flag that flies forever here in chopcountry

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/SPA51928.JPG/1200px-SPA51928.JPG

msstate7
06-03-2022, 06:40 AM
Fried on mound tonight as braves go for first 3-game winning streak this season.

zbhargrove
06-03-2022, 06:45 AM
I've said it before this year, but these last 2 wins feel different... a little more urgent, etc... maybe we can string a few together now.

CyYoung31
06-03-2022, 07:23 AM
Fried on mound tonight as braves go for first 3-game winning streak this season.

Braves will win tonight.

thewupk
06-03-2022, 08:24 AM
Braves will win tonight.

I win every night with your mom

Hudson2
06-03-2022, 08:40 AM
Crazy we are 2 games under .500 with the team we have. We look to be on the rise luckily. Harris looks pretty good out there on both sides of the ball so hopefully some can be patient with him.

thewupk
06-03-2022, 08:44 AM
Looks like they changed the error to a hit for Harris.

DirkPiggler
06-03-2022, 08:55 AM
The only true flag that flies forever here in chopcountry

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/SPA51928.JPG/1200px-SPA51928.JPG

If we're going that route...the team needs a Prime Minister.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPZK9zlXEAQCM0z.jpg

msstate7
06-03-2022, 09:03 AM
Looks like they changed the error to a hit for Harris.

They should have.

jsebe10
06-03-2022, 09:47 AM
I’m telling you….if we keep hitting the way we have been…we will leave Colorado down 6.5 games…which is incredible. The Mets are about to get trounced out West finishing up with the Dodgers, 3 at SD, and 3 at Anaheim…then come home for 3 with the Brewers…we have 3 witt CO, 2 with Oak at truist, and 4 with Pitt at truist before going to ****ty Dc…

We have a beautiful chance to make up some serious ground…and if all goes well maybe take the division lead…it’s going to be difficult but certainly attainable.

thewupk
06-03-2022, 10:07 AM
I’m telling you….if we keep hitting the way we have been…we will leave Colorado down 6.5 games…which is incredible. The Mets are about to get trounced out West finishing up with the Dodgers, 3 at SD, and 3 at Anaheim…then come home for 3 with the Brewers…we have 3 witt CO, 2 with Oak at truist, and 4 with Pitt at truist before going to ****ty Dc…

We have a beautiful chance to make up some serious ground…and if all goes well maybe take the division lead…it’s going to be difficult but certainly attainable.

Look....if we can just win every game left, I like our chances at winning the division

Enscheff
06-03-2022, 10:09 AM
The best part is the gaping holes in the roster appear to maybe be less gaping. Acuna/Ozuna/Harris might just be a viable 75% of the OF/DH group, and proper management of Strider at the back of the rotation is probably going to be pretty effective…though asking Snit to properly manage him is a stretch.

At that point the play will be to hold the rotation together until Soroka can pitch in a little bit (meaning some version of a 6 man rotation) and go shopping for one more actual MLB OFer at the deadline.

jsebe10
06-03-2022, 10:17 AM
Look....if we can just win every game left, I like our chances at winning the division

On the season or in CO? Lol. I’m sensing some humor here and I just wanna make sure I’m following.

thewupk
06-03-2022, 10:41 AM
On the season or in CO? Lol. I’m sensing some humor here and I just wanna make sure I’m following.

The rest of the season. I'm confident a 135-27 record will be good enough.

bravesfanMatt
06-03-2022, 10:46 AM
I am just hoping we can hold our pen together until we get some guys healthy

MadduxFanII
06-03-2022, 10:58 AM
Acuna's perpetual day-to-day status, at least in relation to his ability to play the field, complicates things a bit. Ozuna is basically at the point where he's no longer just a terrible left fielder -- he's essentially unplayable out there. So Ozune needs to be at DH. But so long as Acuna needs the DH spot multiple times a week, that forces Ozuna into the field, which is...sub-optimal.

Even when Acuna is in right, Harris is in center and Ozuna is at DH, you still need someone in left, and we don't have someone. It would be nice to have just a .700 OPS guy with solid defense out there. So your choice is either to ride with Duvall and hope he hits up to his career .229/.289/.460 career line or find someone on the cheap who can do that.

Russ2dollas
06-03-2022, 11:46 AM
Acuna's perpetual day-to-day status, at least in relation to his ability to play the field, complicates things a bit. Ozuna is basically at the point where he's no longer just a terrible left fielder -- he's essentially unplayable out there. So Ozune needs to be at DH. But so long as Acuna needs the DH spot multiple times a week, that forces Ozuna into the field, which is...sub-optimal.

Even when Acuna is in right, Harris is in center and Ozuna is at DH, you still need someone in left, and we don't have someone. It would be nice to have just a .700 OPS guy with solid defense out there. So your choice is either to ride with Duvall and hope he hits up to his career .229/.289/.460 career line or find someone on the cheap who can do that.

I think Duvall and a healthy Rosario can be solid defense and a 700 ops. That is a low bar. Duvall provides value in big samples, you just have to ride out the long stretches of him being horrid.

I think the Braves really need another impact bat. The line up is not long enough for me unless 2-3+ of Riley, Olson, Ozuna and Albies are going to start playing close to the top of their previous production.

CyYoung31
06-03-2022, 12:26 PM
I’m telling you….if we keep hitting the way we have been…we will leave Colorado down 6.5 games…which is incredible. The Mets are about to get trounced out West finishing up with the Dodgers, 3 at SD, and 3 at Anaheim…then come home for 3 with the Brewers…we have 3 witt CO, 2 with Oak at truist, and 4 with Pitt at truist before going to ****ty Dc…

We have a beautiful chance to make up some serious ground…and if all goes well maybe take the division lead…it’s going to be difficult but certainly attainable.

I expect the Braves are about to go on a little run. The offense has been hitting better for a while now, and the pitching outside of the 5th spot has been good all year. But, I don’t think they’re going to overtake the Mets, at least during this stretch. The Mets probably aren’t as good as their record, but they’re still a good team. Barring a major rash of injuries, they’re not just going to collapse this season.

Nerfherders
06-03-2022, 01:16 PM
I'm kicking myself for not going to this game. Damn.

msstate7
06-03-2022, 03:02 PM
Acuna rf
Swanson
Ozuna DH
Riley
Olson
TDA
Arcia 2b
Duvall lf
Harris cf

CyYoung31
06-03-2022, 04:01 PM
Why the **** does Snit refuse to play a top 5 hitter on his team?

Hudson2
06-03-2022, 04:48 PM
Why the **** does Snit refuse to play a top 5 hitter on his team?

It’s crazy. Contreras has to play more somehow.

Garmel
06-03-2022, 05:03 PM
Snit actually believes that lf defense is more important than Contreras' bat. Absolute idiocy.

WaitingFor2017
06-03-2022, 05:14 PM
Snitker for continually playing Adam Duvall over better players:

"Shoot, we know Adam can play really good ball. I know he's struggling a bit right now, but you saw his stats last year. They were really good. Remember how he performed against us with the Marlins? He was really good. I know he can get back to playing good baseball. We hope playing in this park will get him back and get him going back to good baseball. He's just a good player."

Not really a Snitker quote, but I can imagine him saying something like this about Duvall.

The Chosen One
06-03-2022, 05:49 PM
Snitker for continually playing Adam Duvall over better players:

"Shoot, we know Adam can play really good ball. I know he's struggling a bit right now, but you saw his stats last year. They were really good. Remember how he performed against us with the Marlins? He was really good. I know he can get back to playing good baseball. We hope playing in this park will get him back and get him going back to good baseball. He's just a good player."

Not really a Snitker quote, but I can imagine him saying something like this about Duvall.

Actually Snit speak is more like.

"Well shoot, I mean Adam's a really good player. I think someone around here mentioned that his batting average went up a few points in the last week. I mean gosh you know he's gonna hit better and hit for power and it'll really help us out a lot. And when he does get some big hits for us, I think it will boost the other guys in the dugout too."