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Slippyjms
06-11-2022, 12:30 PM
Acuña RF
Swanson SS
Riley 3B
Olson 1B
Albies 2B
Ozuna DH
Contreras C
Duvall LF
Harris ll CF

Morton P

jpx7
06-11-2022, 12:56 PM
If Ozuna isn’t going to turn this ship around—which I think is a very real possibility—then what is the longterm plan for him? Is there a good dead-weight match for his final 2+ years? Would the Braves eat $30M+ to clear a roster spot?

msstate7
06-11-2022, 12:57 PM
Morton has a big day

TURBO
06-11-2022, 03:12 PM
Will Morton hit a LHH with a curve?

WaitingFor2017
06-11-2022, 03:19 PM
Brutal start for Charlie.

thewupk
06-11-2022, 03:24 PM
Acuna is the man

TURBO
06-11-2022, 03:24 PM
I heart Ronnie

UNCBlue012
06-11-2022, 03:24 PM
Charlie is hard to watch

Buzzworm
06-11-2022, 03:24 PM
Acuna man…how did we get so lucky.

TURBO
06-11-2022, 03:26 PM
Wow

zbhargrove
06-11-2022, 03:31 PM
Riley has turned into a star

chop2chip
06-11-2022, 03:34 PM
I can’t figure out why Charlie is getting hit so hard

thewupk
06-11-2022, 03:38 PM
I can’t figure out why Charlie is getting hit so hard

he's old

chop2chip
06-11-2022, 03:40 PM
he's old
Indeed, but his velocity and spin are similar to last year.

I guess it’s just location?

Enscheff
06-11-2022, 03:58 PM
Indeed, but his velocity and spin are similar to last year.

I guess it’s just location?

He seems to lose control of the breaking ball, and then everything crumbles. It seems like every single time he hits a LHH with the curve the inning turns into a disaster.

He’s also interesting in the sense that his 4 seamer has bad shape with only 7” of rise. That’s right in the “hit me a mile” range of fastball movement.

So I wonder if the curve and mediocre 4 seamer are an effective pair, and if the curve isn’t working the 4 seamer is bad without the complimentary pitch.

Personally, I think Morton should be throwing the sinker much more than he does. It’s a better pitch by itself, and may be able to stand on its own better when the curve isn’t working.

chop2chip
06-11-2022, 04:05 PM
He seems to lose control of the breaking ball, and then everything crumbles. It seems like every single time he hits a LHH with the curve the inning turns into a disaster.

He’s also interesting in the sense that his 4 seamer has bad shape with only 7” of rise. That’s right in the “hit me a mile” range of fastball movement.

So I wonder if the curve and mediocre 4 seamer are an effective pair, and if the curve isn’t working the 4 seamer is bad without the complimentary pitch.

Personally, I think Morton should be throwing the sinker much more than he does. It’s a better pitch by itself, and may be able to stand on its own better when the curve isn’t working.

Charlie is a smart guy, so it will be interesting if he’s willing to adapt this late in his career.

I do find this trend interesting.

April: 7.50 K 5.50 BB
May/June: 10.57 K 3.23 BB
2021: 10.47 K 2.81 BB

This doesn’t take into account the hard contact that’s been consistent throughout the year, but maybe it’s a signal he’s finding himself coming back from injury.

msstate7
06-11-2022, 04:09 PM
I'm finally able to see Olson in-person. Yep, he sucks

TURBO
06-11-2022, 04:20 PM
Will Morton hit a LHH with a curve?


here we go

Garmel
06-11-2022, 04:26 PM
here we go

You just know it's going to happen.

UNCBlue012
06-11-2022, 04:26 PM
Morton, you dumbass. Yikes

UNCBlue012
06-11-2022, 04:28 PM
Jesus, dude. Take the free outs. 4-2

Enscheff
06-11-2022, 04:29 PM
He seems to lose control of the breaking ball, and then everything crumbles. It seems like every single time he hits a LHH with the curve the inning turns into a disaster.


Yet another example of this.

USMA76
06-11-2022, 04:29 PM
4-2 Bucs. Morton can't seem to give us five strong innings.

msstate7
06-11-2022, 04:30 PM
If Charlie doesn't get a k, we F'd. Every ball in play is a hit

AJonesATL
06-11-2022, 04:33 PM
Need Olson to get the pop going today. Keep waiting for him to get on a homer stretch.

chop2chip
06-11-2022, 04:38 PM
7.20 ERA
5.13 FIP
0.51xFIP

one of those years I guess

msstate7
06-11-2022, 04:40 PM
Need Olson to get the pop going today. Keep waiting for him to get on a homer stretch.

Gonna be a long year waiting on that guy

UNCBlue012
06-11-2022, 04:41 PM
An 88-MPH cutter with nearly no actual cut and he pops out. Stop overthinking this guy. He’s bad bad

msstate7
06-11-2022, 04:42 PM
An 88-MPH cutter with nearly no actual cut and he pops out. Stop overthinking this guy. He’s bad bad

9 straight wins... we due a clunker. I'm at the game drinking, not even mad.

The Chosen One
06-11-2022, 04:46 PM
Does Andruw just like to go to every game.

chop2chip
06-11-2022, 04:48 PM
Does Andruw just like to go to every game.

Braves are drawing +40,000 against the A’s and Pirates. Who doesn’t go to games?

The Chosen One
06-11-2022, 04:49 PM
Braves are drawing +40,000 against the A’s and Pirates. Who doesn’t go to games?

Seems he's going to every game.

He's also an employee still I think. But just funny seeing him at every home game. And Chipper is there once in a while.

msstate7
06-11-2022, 04:52 PM
Olson up, bathroom break

msstate7
06-11-2022, 04:53 PM
Warning track power

msstate7
06-11-2022, 05:00 PM
Good pick, Olson

TURBO
06-11-2022, 05:08 PM
Probably be better off bunting with Duvy

TURBO
06-11-2022, 05:09 PM
How could he call that safe? terrible

The Chosen One
06-11-2022, 05:13 PM
Harris good

Ozzie Swanson
06-11-2022, 05:13 PM
Harris has been really impressive. He’ll obviously struggle at some point but he looks great so far.

zbhargrove
06-11-2022, 05:14 PM
Michael Harris is turning into a fun player

TURBO
06-11-2022, 05:20 PM
Baseball gods smile upon us

msstate7
06-11-2022, 05:20 PM
Acuna is a cheetah

CyYoung31
06-11-2022, 05:20 PM
LOL WOW.

HOW THE **** DID THAT HAPPEN

msstate7
06-11-2022, 05:21 PM
How in the hell did Acuna score on that

The Chosen One
06-11-2022, 05:21 PM
Acuna scored from first base. Holy ****

thethe
06-11-2022, 05:21 PM
Pirates are bad but they just beat the dodgers. Braves got some good mojo going right now.

msstate7
06-11-2022, 05:22 PM
Acuna scored from first base. Holy ****

I have no idea how he did that. The guy is a lightning bolt

USMA76
06-11-2022, 05:22 PM
The bad luck we had in the first couple of months is apparently being paid back.

USMA76
06-11-2022, 05:23 PM
C'mon Ozzie, don't screw this up by being overanxious.

Ozzie Swanson
06-11-2022, 05:23 PM
Ozzie’s plate discipline is horrible. He’s really frustrating to watch at times.

msstate7
06-11-2022, 05:25 PM
We never losing again

TURBO
06-11-2022, 05:26 PM
Lil King

Ozzie Swanson
06-11-2022, 05:26 PM
Ozzie’s plate discipline is horrible. He’s really frustrating to watch at times.

And then he totally redeems himself.

thewupk
06-11-2022, 05:26 PM
well that just got out of hand. jesus

The Chosen One
06-11-2022, 05:26 PM
10 runs for a 10 game winning streak.

chop2chip
06-11-2022, 05:27 PM
Ozzie back hitting wall scraper home runs

All is good in the world

msstate7
06-11-2022, 05:27 PM
well that just got out of hand. jesus

Started with an ozuna double. If we get him and duvall going, this offense will be unstoppable.

USMA76
06-11-2022, 05:27 PM
Nothing like going from two down to six up and only making one out in the process...wow!

CyYoung31
06-11-2022, 05:27 PM
THE LITTLE ****

zbhargrove
06-11-2022, 05:28 PM
I know its against bad teams, but we played plenty of bad teams earlier in the year. This team looks different... there's a new level of confidence there we were lacking earlier. I like it. I think Harris really provided a jolt.

The Chosen One
06-11-2022, 05:30 PM
I know its against bad teams, but we played plenty of bad teams earlier in the year. This team looks different... there's a new level of confidence there we were lacking earlier. I like it. I think Harris really provided a jolt.

Freeman sent them words of encouragement.

CrimsonCowboy
06-11-2022, 05:30 PM
Just checking in. Everyone good?

The Chosen One
06-11-2022, 05:30 PM
Mets fans right now

https://c.tenor.com/bzisEms5lOEAAAAM/key-and-peele-nervous.gif

TURBO
06-11-2022, 05:30 PM
If game finishes 10-4, what will our Run Differential be?

Buzzworm
06-11-2022, 05:33 PM
I know its against bad teams, but we played plenty of bad teams earlier in the year. This team looks different... there's a new level of confidence there we were lacking earlier. I like it. I think Harris really provided a jolt.

Our starting pitching has really stepped it up but the biggest thing fueling this team is we aren’t running out a scrub in the OF everyday and Ronnie is healthy.
It’s amazing what a top 5 player will do when he’s going good for the rest of the lineups confidence

Garmel
06-11-2022, 05:36 PM
When Swanson's BABIP begins to normalize it won't be pretty.

CyYoung31
06-11-2022, 05:36 PM
Dansby stinks.

bravesfanforlife88
06-11-2022, 05:38 PM
I know its against bad teams, but we played plenty of bad teams earlier in the year. This team looks different... there's a new level of confidence there we were lacking earlier. I like it. I think Harris really provided a jolt.

He really has. Been a great add to the line up.

Heyward
06-11-2022, 05:38 PM
If game finishes 10-4, what will our Run Differential be?

+26

Garmel
06-11-2022, 05:38 PM
Looks like Vogelbach has won a few hot dog eating contests.

Heyward
06-11-2022, 05:38 PM
Harris is what we thought Pache was gonna be. He's been incredible.

CyYoung31
06-11-2022, 05:40 PM
Mets fans right now

https://c.tenor.com/bzisEms5lOEAAAAM/key-and-peele-nervous.gif

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but they might need to be worried about the Phillies too. Phillies are about to win 10 in a row as well, and the thing is is that they are doing it against bad teams. The recent Phillies never beat up on bad teams like they are now.

zbhargrove
06-11-2022, 05:41 PM
When Swanson's BABIP begins to normalize it won't be pretty.

He has a .352 wOBA vs a .356 xwOBA... I don't think his BABIP is as much of a lucky issue as you think.

CyYoung31
06-11-2022, 05:41 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNvVjbwX0A0AuOk.jpg:medium

msstate7
06-11-2022, 05:41 PM
When Swanson's BABIP begins to normalize it won't be pretty.

I'll raise hell for sure, but in reality, he'll drop way down in the lineup and continue to play great defense... we'll be fine

WaitingFor2017
06-11-2022, 05:41 PM
Chavez for one more to rest the pen??

Heyward
06-11-2022, 05:42 PM
Chavez for one more to rest the pen??

Just toss out one of the non top arms, it's a 6 run lead.

Mad Dog Murph
06-11-2022, 05:42 PM
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but they might need to be worried about the Phillies too. Phillies are about to win 10 in a row as well, and the thing is is that they are doing it against bad teams. The recent Phillies never beat up on bad teams like they are now.

This will be 9 for them. But your point stands

msstate7
06-11-2022, 05:43 PM
Chavez for one more to rest the pen??

I'd send Stephens (let em redeem last night) or Diaz

The Chosen One
06-11-2022, 05:43 PM
I'll raise hell for sure, but in reality, he'll drop way down in the lineup and continue to play great defense... we'll be fine

Snit won't move him down until he struggles for 2 weeks.

Mad Dog Murph
06-11-2022, 05:44 PM
Chris Farley just grounded into a inning ending double play

TURBO
06-11-2022, 05:54 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/vzuqin231fC92/giphy.gif

The Chosen One
06-11-2022, 05:56 PM
How will we ever be a disciplined enough team to win 10 games without Freddie Freeman.

CrimsonCowboy
06-11-2022, 05:56 PM
https://wompimages-azureedge-net.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w820/s/wompimages.azureedge.net/fetchimage?url=https://i.chzbgr.com/full/6806376192/h13D80AD0/gif-of-the-day-elephant-jumping-on-a-trampoline

CyYoung31
06-11-2022, 05:57 PM
It won’t happen, but there should be some version of the Bobby Sunday Special tomorrow. Need to especially get Arcia some ABs.

msstate7
06-11-2022, 05:59 PM
It won’t happen, but there should be some version of the Bobby Sunday Special tomorrow. Need to especially get Arcia some ABs.
Good day to get Swanson a day off

The Chosen One
06-11-2022, 06:00 PM
Good day to get Swanson a day off

Freeman will text Snit that's a no for me brother.

Slippyjms
06-11-2022, 06:17 PM
7-7

The Chosen One
06-11-2022, 06:20 PM
7-7

Glad that DL stint helped you out.

Slippyjms
06-11-2022, 06:28 PM
It won’t happen, but there should be some version of the Bobby Sunday Special tomorrow. Need to especially get Arcia some ABs.

So like Arcia Heredia and Ozuna for Swanson and Acuña and d’Arnaud?

Harris ll
Albies
Riley
Olson
Contreras
Ozuna
Duvall
Arcia
Heredia

thewupk
06-11-2022, 06:35 PM
Brewers have lost 8 in a row and not only lost their lead in the NL Central race but are below the Braves in the WC race.

Hudson2
06-11-2022, 07:24 PM
With the winning streak I don’t see them giving the guys a day off. Maybe move Acuna to DH

Slippyjms
06-11-2022, 08:13 PM
With the winning streak I don’t see them giving the guys a day off. Maybe move Acuna to DH

Man putting Acuña at DH really has an all around devastating effecting the line up. Either Heredia has to play or Ozuna has to play defense. Assuming Rosario was just blind before and is back to his old self he’ll really help us here when he returns.

MadduxFanII
06-11-2022, 10:10 PM
Damn, 41,219 in attendance for a game against the Pirates.

Hulavol
06-11-2022, 10:26 PM
Love seeing the attendance numbers so high- moving out to Cobb and building the battery was pure brilliance

Hudson2
06-11-2022, 10:32 PM
Damn, 41,219 in attendance for a game against the Pirates.

Payroll should be going up even more this offseason and with all the money coming off the books AA should put a super strong team out again next year.

thewupk
06-11-2022, 11:12 PM
Damn, 41,219 in attendance for a game against the Pirates.

World Series bump is legit

chop2chip
06-11-2022, 11:39 PM
Damn, 41,219 in attendance for a game against the Pirates.

43,000 for a Wednesday game against Oakland. We couldn’t draw that number for a playoff game at Turner Field.

chop2chip
06-11-2022, 11:41 PM
World Series bump is legit

On track for 3M fans

thewupk
06-12-2022, 12:09 AM
On track for 3M fans

Yup. Last time that happened was 2000 which funny enough was coming off the team's last WS appearance

thethe
06-12-2022, 01:47 AM
Man, remember all those spicy takes when braves announced they were leaving out of crappy Atlanta?

thethe
06-12-2022, 01:47 AM
Only 5 back in loss column now to Mets.

Going to break that fan bases heart even earlier this year.

goldfly
06-12-2022, 03:55 AM
Man, remember all those spicy takes when braves announced they were leaving out of crappy Atlanta?

you really can't help yourself

thethe
06-12-2022, 06:48 AM
you really can't help yourself

Just waiting for accountability to to be a practiced attribute for certain posters who make statements and ridicule others for having a different opinion.

Racism! How dare they move from a ****hole area to where their fans are!

Voter suppression!!

You all know who you are. Specifically the person that always likes posts that attack me.

bravesfanMatt
06-12-2022, 09:14 AM
Our longest streak of season reaches 10. Incredible. I just wish someone would tell me what our longest streak is this season.

Enscheff
06-12-2022, 11:12 AM
Just waiting for accountability to to be a practiced attribute for certain posters who make statements and ridicule others for having a different opinion.

Racism! How dare they move from a ****hole area to where their fans are!

Voter suppression!!

You all know who you are. Specifically the person that always likes posts that attack me.

Hahahahahahahababababababahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha

You…calling for accountability on bad hot takes. The guy who just vanishes when his moronic blabberings are proved false, and then comes back when the team is going good with a case of amnesia forgetting that he said the stupid things.

You…waiting for accountability…

Hahahahahahahabababababahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Thanks for that good laugh in the morning!

goldfly
06-14-2022, 01:58 PM
Just waiting for accountability to to be a practiced attribute for certain posters who make statements and ridicule others for having a different opinion.

Racism! How dare they move from a ****hole area to where their fans are!

Voter suppression!!

You all know who you are. Specifically the person that always likes posts that attack me.

have you been in the area around old turner field recently?

thewupk
06-14-2022, 02:36 PM
Man, remember all those spicy takes when braves announced they were leaving out of crappy Atlanta?

I mean there can be a lot of things said about the reasons why they moved out of Atlanta and the way it happened. But if you believed the data that they presented that the majority of people that went to the games were from that area then it's a no brainer that the fans are coming to the stadium like they are after winning the WS.

thethe
06-14-2022, 02:39 PM
have you been in the area around old turner field recently?

I actually was around there mid-January.

Still a ****hole

thethe
06-14-2022, 02:40 PM
I mean there can be a lot of things said about the reasons why they moved out of Atlanta and the way it happened. But if you believed the data that they presented that the majority of people that went to the games were from that area then it's a no brainer that the fans are coming to the stadium like they are after winning the WS.

Of course it was a no-brainer.

We were an embarrassment. That Cub playoff game was an absolute joke. Now we have one of the 5 best places to play in baseball.

Thank you OLD GUARD

thewupk
06-14-2022, 03:01 PM
Of course it was a no-brainer.

We were an embarrassment. That Cub playoff game was an absolute joke. Now we have one of the 5 best places to play in baseball.

Thank you OLD GUARD

Another brilliant move under GM Frank Wren

chop2chip
06-14-2022, 03:45 PM
Of course it was a no-brainer.

We were an embarrassment. That Cub playoff game was an absolute joke. Now we have one of the 5 best places to play in baseball.

Thank you OLD GUARD

The people who made the Cobb County move happen are still employed by the team.

Business ops and player ops are not the same.

thethe
06-14-2022, 03:46 PM
The people who made the Cobb County move happen are still employed by the team.

Business ops and player ops are not the same.

I'm well aware - Just trolling.

CyYoung31
06-14-2022, 04:56 PM
I'm well aware - Just trolling.

We know.

goldfly
06-15-2022, 11:35 AM
I actually was around there mid-January.

Still a ****hole

Congrats on telling me you are lying

Weird but you do you then

Very nice buildup around there that could have easily been done when the braves were there

For the non lairs that might go down there

Y’all should visit Little bear restaurant, halfway crooks brewery, how crispy express, white chapel bbq and the other places that are down there now next to the stadium.

Very cool spot

bravesfanMatt
06-15-2022, 11:46 AM
Congrats on telling me you are lying

Weird but you do you then

Very nice buildup around there that could have easily been done when the braves were there

For the non lairs that might go down there

Y’all should visit Little bear restaurant, halfway crooks brewery, how crispy express, white chapel bbq and the other places that are down there now next to the stadium.

Very cool spot

I think you can see it from both sides. But just as easily an arguement could be made that the Braves needed to leave the area to allow it to be developed. So much parking area was sold to developers who are helping revitalize the area around the stadium. Some might argue it was a win/win for the Braves and Fulton county to divorce and move away from each other.

Enscheff
06-15-2022, 11:51 AM
Were people really calling the move racist somehow?

The Braves moved for one reason, and one reason only: money. They wanted to make more money, period. And I'm willing to bet they don't care what color the person is giving it to them, only that they give them as much as possible.

Classist? Probably. Racist? Only tangentially.

Southcack77
06-15-2022, 08:06 PM
Were people really calling the move racist somehow?

The Braves moved for one reason, and one reason only: money. They wanted to make more money, period. And I'm willing to bet they don't care what color the person is giving it to them, only that they give them as much as possible.

Classist? Probably. Racist? Only tangentially.

Personally I'm in favor of the club making the most money it can because that makes it more likely they will have the resources to win.

Can't say I care about it's impact on downtown Atlanta, people's perceived racism, or the arguably poor tax policy's impact on the people of Gwinnett county no matter what the one dude from Kennesaw State says.

striker42
06-15-2022, 10:08 PM
Were people really calling the move racist somehow?

The Braves moved for one reason, and one reason only: money. They wanted to make more money, period. And I'm willing to bet they don't care what color the person is giving it to them, only that they give them as much as possible.

Classist? Probably. Racist? Only tangentially.

This is the truth. The Braves care about one color, green.

chopdrew
06-15-2022, 10:51 PM
A lot of the film industry has set up shop in that old Turner Field area. There are several prop houses, SFX shops, and various other studio mechanic shops through there. Sound equipment, lighting, staging, et al. It's close enough to that monstrosity Tyler Perry built on what used to be Ft McPherson and there's a ton of old warehouse space through there. It's kind of a cool little area. Parts of it. I still wouldn't go down near the Salvation Army campus unarmed.

The biggest problem with the Braves and Fulton county was the city of Atlanta not being willing to share in any of the maintenance expenses for the ballpark. IIRC, most of the "racist" rhetoric had to do with the new ballpark not being accessible by MARTA, which much of the Gameday staff depended on to get to work. It's possible to take mass transit from Fulton to Cobb Co, but it's much more difficult.

goldfly
06-16-2022, 01:09 AM
I think you can see it from both sides. But just as easily an arguement could be made that the Braves needed to leave the area to allow it to be developed. So much parking area was sold to developers who are helping revitalize the area around the stadium. Some might argue it was a win/win for the Braves and Fulton county to divorce and move away from each other.

No, I really don’t “see it from both sides” if you’ve been down near the stadium recently.

But the rest yeah, I think you could argue this build up doesn’t happen unless the braves leave that area though and maybe be right

I also think some of these things could have been done when they were there

But so be it

We have our fake dubai city aka the battery and it’s good and works. The area around old turner has become a good spot too. Glad to see it


Will say the places down near old turner feel less corporate than the stuff in the battery and I enjoy that more but it’s all good

DirkPiggler
06-16-2022, 08:15 AM
No, I really don’t “see it from both sides” if you’ve been down near the stadium recently.

But the rest yeah, I think you could argue this build up doesn’t happen unless the braves leave that area though and maybe be right

I also think some of these things could have been done when they were there

But so be it

We have our fake dubai city aka the battery and it’s good and works. The area around old turner has become a good spot too. Glad to see it


Will say the places down near old turner feel less corporate than the stuff in the battery and I enjoy that more but it’s all good

As an outsider looking in, it seems like the city of Atlanta bears a good share of the blame for the Braves' migration north.

Most economic analysis will tell you that public funding of sports venues for private businesses is a terrible idea, so the city not kicking in on a similar complex is certainly defensible. But when they just got through devoting a ton of resources to the new football stadium that argument rings hollow, especially when the Braves have been consistently good over the last thirty or so years and the Falcons have been trash for the overwhelming majority of their existence. I'm sure Braves management took that as a slap in the face, having carried the mantle for Atlanta sports for so long only to be treated as the lesser entity.

Being someone who comes to the city a couple of times a year specifically to watch Braves games, I would've loved to have seen a complex similar to the Battery built somewhere in the area of the new stadium and old Georgia Dome. But ultimately it comes down to what makes the team most competitive. If they could make the most money (and devote a proportional amount to payroll) playing games in Dahlonega then that's where I want to see them located.