GDT 6/11/22: Braves vs Pirates - Finishing the Homestand Wright

[Slippyjms]

Acuña RF
Swanson SS
Riley 3B
Olson 1B
Albies 2B
Ozuna DH
Contreras C
Duvall LF
Harris ll CF

Wright P

[Hulavol]

Says here Harris 2 gonna get his first MLB homer today…..

[thewupk]

No Bobby Sunday Special here

[msstate7]

No Bobby Sunday Special here

Doesn't have to be wholesale. Probably a good idea to let Arcia rotate around the IF this week

[Hulavol]

We all bitched about the Sunday lineups Bobby trotted put there, but that managerial strategy damn worked. “You guys win on Friday and Saturday nights, and then go home and party it up with your women and enjoy yourselves being at home. I’ll let the bench play Sunday. But you gotta win the series first”

[Enscheff]

Facing a LHP this seemed like a good day to get Acuna, Olson and Harris a day off.

Oh well, at least now we know that narrative about freeman being the reason guys weren’t rested was a complete fallacy.

[msstate7]

I much prefer b*tching about not giving days off than sucking

[CyYoung31]

I much prefer b*tching about not giving days off than sucking

Fair point.

[Slippyjms]

Facing a LHP this seemed like a good day to get Acuna, Olson and Harris a day off.

Oh well, at least now we know that narrative about freeman being the reason guys weren’t rested was a complete fallacy.

So would we be going

Albies 2B
Swanson SS
Riley 1B
d’Arnaud C
Ozuna LF
Contreras DH
Duvall RF
Arcia 3B
Heredia CF

Cause that’s all we got

[Enscheff]

So would we be going

Albies 2B
Swanson SS
Riley 1B
d’Arnaud C
Ozuna LF
Contreras DH
Duvall RF
Arcia 3B
Heredia CF

Cause that’s all we got

That is exactly the lineup I would have trotted out there today, assuming TDA isn’t dinged up.

[msstate7]

Olson down to .803 ops

[Hulavol]

As an avid pitch counter watcher, that was a very good inning….. anytime we get twenty pitches out of a guy, I like it….

[Hulavol]

Kyle looking dang good

[msstate7]

Bad result. Good AB

[thethe]

Add Contreras to the list of studs that the old guard brought into the organization.

[zbhargrove]

Bill and Duvy!!!

[thethe]

Duvall will do his usual lots of production but awful OBP.

Great for bottom of the order.

[Enscheff]

Back to back baby

[thethe]

Love Harris in this spot in front of Acuna. Makes it much more palatable when Acuna isn't in the 2 spot.

[Enscheff]

Add Contreras to the list of studs that the old guard brought into the organization.

How many international players have the new guard brought in after being punished by the actions of the old guard?

Odd right? It doesn’t fit your moronic narrative so you can’t even wrap your tiny brain around it.

[zbhargrove]

Goodness Michael Harris is fun to watch. He’s so situationally aware. I also knew he was fast… but he’s like ridiculously fast. I also knew he was a pretty good defender but he’s a great defender. It’s always fun when tools are better than you expect.

[UNCBlue012]

The balls are very clearly back to normal lol

[thethe]

How many international players have the new guard brought in after being punished by the actions of the old guard?

Odd right? It doesn’t fit your moronic narrative so you can’t even wrap your tiny brain around it.

I have no bad words to say about AA and the organization. You won't find me criticizing him much at all.

[msstate7]

Is Harris doing what Swanson and Riley did to start their careers and gonna hit a wall soon? Man I hope not bc he's a Godsend at his current level

[thethe]

Goodness Michael Harris is fun to watch. He’s so situationally aware. I also knew he was fast… but he’s like ridiculously fast. I also knew he was a pretty good defender but he’s a great defender. It’s always fun when tools are better than you expect.

Very easy to see Harris being a 3-4 win player with how good of a defender he is.

[msstate7]

How many international players have the new guard brought in after being punished by the actions of the old guard?

Odd right? It doesn’t fit your moronic narrative so you can’t even wrap your tiny brain around it.

You said the other day that the old guard drafted well and this one hasn't drafted anyone yet, so aren't y'all sorta in agreement on this?

[WaitingFor2017]

The trade that almost was:

Ozzie Albies to the White Sox for Jose Quintana.

[zbhargrove]

Very easy to see Harris being a 3-4 win player with how good of a defender he is.

We will see how he keeps it up offensively. The league will get a book on him and he will struggle. It will all depend how he adjusts and adapts.

[msstate7]

Phillies down 3-0 in b2

[Enscheff]

Goodness Michael Harris is fun to watch. He’s so situationally aware. I also knew he was fast… but he’s like ridiculously fast. I also knew he was a pretty good defender but he’s a great defender. It’s always fun when tools are better than you expect.

One thing I’ve realized lately, which probably should have been obvious from the start, is that the best type of baseball analytically isn’t the most entertaining. It’s super boring watching guys walk and strike out and hit 2-3 bombs a game and go station to station on the bases to avoid running into outs.

So that’s the dilemma…the best way to win isn’t the most exciting way to play, even though winning is the ultimate goal.

[Enscheff]

You said the other day that the old guard drafted well and this one hasn't drafted anyone yet, so aren't y'all sorta in agreement on this?

Well, I was being a bit over dramatic about how poorly AA has drafted, as pointed out by jpx.

I agree that there isn’t much to complain about with AA. Sure, I’m very vocally against moves like the Will Smith and Rosario deals, and I think they haven’t drafted all that well, but overall AA is a very good GM and I have zero doubt the Braves are much better off with him instead of the Coppy/Hart/JD trio.

[zbhargrove]

Focus Kyle

[msstate7]

Well, I was being a bit over dramatic about how poorly AA has drafted, as pointed out by jpx.

I agree that there isn’t much to complain about with AA. Sure, I’m very vocally against moves like the Will Smith and Rosario deals, and I think they haven’t drafted all that well, but overall AA is a very good GM and I have zero doubt the Braves are much better off with him instead of the Coppy/Hart/JD trio.

I don't think anyone can argue with that. AA has been great

[CyYoung31]

What a play.

[zbhargrove]

Great damage control and great play

[msstate7]

Come on riley

[UNCBlue012]

Oly struggling against pitchers allowing free runs has been something.

[msstate7]

Olson .799 ops

I'm sure he'll get it together, but he's been disappointing

[CyYoung31]

The AIDS is no longer in remission.

[CyYoung31]

This feels like a loss. Oh, well. We’re due one.

[Enscheff]

Olson .799 ops

I'm sure he'll get it together, but he's been disappointing

The only difference between Olson this year and every other year is a bunch of missing fly balls. Instead of 24 doubles and 7 HRs he would usually have closer to 15 doubles and 15 HRs.

So that’s my hope…he just needs to get back to lifting the ball more because that’s all he’s missing. Hopefully the only person on the planet that can help him with that isn’t employed by the As.

[UNCBlue012]

He knows lead-off walks are bad. It’s logical to stop issuing them. Weird

[UNCBlue012]

He knows lead-off walks are bad. It’s logical to stop issuing them. Weird but seriously, Kyle randomly goes on spells where he’ll walk someone on four pitches and then straight up overwhelm the next batter with nastiness. It’s odd

[zbhargrove]

Man… Wright’s newfound ability to mentally bare down and get out of trouble is nice

[Garmel]

but seriously, Kyle randomly goes on spells where he’ll walk someone on four pitches and then straight up overwhelm the next batter with nastiness. It’s odd

Yeah, it is weird. He can be pitching great and his old mechanics come back out of nowhere.

[UNCBlue012]

I’m waiting for Ozuna to help the club

[thewupk]

Bill is awesome

[Enscheff]

Man Contreras just keeps stinging the ball.

[zbhargrove]

Even the most bullish Contreras fans could not have seen this start to the season

[UNCBlue012]

Duvy back?

[thewupk]

juiced balls are back. Duvall is good again

[TURBO]

Duvy being productive?

[zbhargrove]

Adam Duvall looks so much better when he doesn’t just sit there and look at the ball

[Enscheff]

I’m setting the over/under date for the first “Contreras needs to be sent down because the league figured him out” or “Contreras was just a fluke flash in the pan” comment on this board at July 9.

I’ll take before.

[Enscheff]

Even the most bullish Contreras fans could not have seen this start to the season

Nah, tehteh will come in during this hot streak and tell everyone that always knew Contreras was going to be an all star catcher. Then when Contreras is in a slump tehteh will vanish, only to return with amnesia when things turn positive again.

[WaitingFor2017]

Phillies down 3-0 in b2

And they get Alcantara tomorrow,

[Tapate50]

I’m setting the over/under date for the first “Contreras needs to be sent down because the league figured him out” or “Contreras was just a fluke flash in the pan” comment on this board at July 9.

I’ll take before.

Cool

[zbhargrove]

This is fun… Quintana never gives up homers

[jpx7]

I’m waiting for Ozuna to help the club

May be waiting a very long time.

[Deester11]

Even the most bullish Contreras fans could not have seen this start to the season
You talking to me? Lol...but yeah...I didn't forsee this.

[Deester11]

J
I’m setting the over/under date for the first “Contreras needs to be sent down because the league figured him out” or “Contreras was just a fluke flash in the pan” comment on this board at July 9.

I’ll take before.
Damn.

[chop2chip]

What Willy is doing is unsustainable.

There’s also no reason to doubt he won’t be an elite offensive catcher. He hits rockets, walks, and the strikeout rate is reasonable.

[zbhargrove]

You talking to me? Lol...but yeah...I didn't forsee this.

Lol no… I wasn’t talking about anyone specifically and it wasn’t supposed to be negative either

[Enscheff]

Let’s congratulate the pirates for hanging on to Reynolds so he could carry the team to a 68 win season.

[Hudson2]

Curious what Duvall’s offensive numbers are since moving to RF.

[jpx7]

Bad PA for Wright there.

[Garmel]

I didn't think that one was going out.

[zbhargrove]

What Willy is doing is unsustainable.

There’s also no reason to doubt he won’t be an elite offensive catcher. He hits rockets, walks, and the strikeout rate is reasonable.

Agreed… I’m talking about his approach/swing… everything looks completely different.

[CyYoung31]

Curious what Duvall’s offensive numbers are since moving to RF.

More curious what they are since moving to LF.

[jpx7]

You talking to me? Lol...but yeah...I didn't forsee this.

I thought they kept the right guy, between him and Langeliers. Looks like Langeliers is going to be good, but Contreras has the chance to be better.

[chop2chip]

Reynolds is a nice player.

[jpx7]

Let’s congratulate the pirates for hanging on to Reynolds so he could carry the team to a 68 win season.

There’s still time for them to trade him to the Braves.

[Enscheff]

Curious what Duvall’s offensive numbers are since moving to RF.

In 32 PAs

.250/.250/.563 plus what he’s done today.

So…a typical Duvall hot stretch that probably has nothing to do with his defensive position…just like Swanson isn’t hitting well due to being the in the 2 spot.

[Enscheff]

There’s still time for them to trade him to the Braves.

I want to want that to happen, but the Nate McLouth nightmare still has me scared.

[CyYoung31]

In 32 PAs

.250/.250/.563 plus what he’s done today.

So…a typical Duvall hot stretch that probably has nothing to do with his defensive position…just like Swanson isn’t hitting well due to being the in the 2 spot.

Lol, .250/.250.

[Russ2dollas]

Let’s congratulate the pirates for hanging on to Reynolds so he could carry the team to a 68 win season.
He’s been bad and batted ball profile was bad.

I was thinking that guy is balling out to say, “please god trade me out of here. I’m good”

Reynolds has to look over at our team, most near his age, with the only real hole in the of and dreaming why can’t I go there.

[Enscheff]

Lol, .250/.250.

I mean, yeah. He has some balls leaving the yard…which is the only offensive value he brings.

[CyYoung31]

The league has figured Olson out. He was a flash in the pan. A fluke.

[msstate7]

Olson is trash

[Deester11]

Lol no… I wasn’t talking about anyone specifically and it wasn’t supposed to be negative either
Ah...I know. Kidding. But from day one I've been just as impressed with his defensive play as his offensive play this year. He's come a long way. When I saw him in the minors, I never really questioned his offense.

[Russ2dollas]

I want to want that to happen, but the Nate McLouth nightmare still has me scared.

Do we even have enough surplus value in the system to trade for him without including Harris? I wouldn’t trade Harris for him now.

[jpx7]

I want to want that to happen, but the Nate McLouth nightmare still has me scared.

Who are our Gorkys Hernandez, Charlie Morton, and Jeff Locke analogues as of now? Waters, Elder, and Shuster?

[zbhargrove]

Can we please not go to Will Smith?

[jpx7]

Ozuna with warning-track power these days.

[Enscheff]

Do we even have enough surplus value in the system to trade for him without including Harris? I wouldn’t trade Harris for him now.

Probably not. Someone like Pham or Benintendi is probably the type of OF addition we should expect if a Duvall/Rosario/Ozuna platoon in LF/DH doesn’t work out.

[jpx7]

Snitker actually pulling Wright. He’s catching on, I guess.

[zbhargrove]

Ozuna with warning-track power these days.

I have this incredible urge to yawn every time he comes up. Can we please somehow unload him? Eat the money… I don’t care…

[jpx7]

I have this incredible urge to yawn every time he comes up. Can we please somehow unload him? Eat the money… I don’t care…

I’m right there with you.

[chop2chip]

Will Smith’s one trick pony extra effective against AAAA lineups.

[zbhargrove]

Good Will showed up

[CyYoung31]

Who are our Gorkys Hernandez, Charlie Morton, and Jeff Locke analogues as of now? Waters, Elder, and Shuster?

More like Waters, Ynoa/Touki, Schuster.

[CyYoung31]

Okay, seriously. Can we lay off Minter? Dude is going to be toast by August at this rate.

[CyYoung31]

Minter has appeared in nearly half of our 60 games this season.

[chop2chip]

Minter has appeared in nearly half of our 60 games this season.

Snitker giving him the Mike Remlinger treatment.

[msstate7]

I have this incredible urge to yawn every time he comes up. Can we please somehow unload him? Eat the money… I don’t care…

If you trust xwoba, he's fine

[msstate7]

Will Smith’s one trick pony extra effective against AAAA lineups.

And the brewers, dodgers, and Astros

[UNCBlue012]

Reynolds decides to be a great player again against us. Awful luck

[chop2chip]

I know our pitching has been good this year.

Didn’t realize we led the National League in FIP (2nd behind the Yankees in MLB)

[jpx7]

Reynolds 10/10 trying to get traded to Cobb County.

[CyYoung31]

Finally got that asshole out.

[chop2chip]

Reynolds 10/10 trying to get traded to Cobb County.

That baserunning got the Eric Young seal of approval

[Enscheff]

That’s not a terrible CS considering the batter was already down 2 strikes and probably going to K. Now that lunch box gets to bat with the platoon advantage and a fresh count.

[thewupk]

there we go Olson

[chop2chip]

More of those please

[Enscheff]

Finally elevated a ball.

[CyYoung31]

The AIDS is in remission.

[jpx7]

There’s some Olson Elevation.

[Enscheff]

I’m unsure why they keep calling 12 pitch Albies PA so great when it probably should have been a walk. If Albies ever develops ever average plate discipline he will be a monster.

[Enscheff]

The ump pretty much tanked this PA for Ozuna.

[CyYoung31]

I’m unsure why they keep calling 12 pitch Albies PA so great when it probably should have been a walk. If Albies ever develops ever average plate discipline he will be a monster.

Albies is my favorite player, but I’m not sure that’s ever going to happen at this point.

[chop2chip]

Ozuna hit those home runs in Milwaukee and has been spinning out of his shoes trying to pull ball.

[msstate7]

That was a huge hr, Olson. Great job

[TURBO]

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[CrimsonCowboy]

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[CyYoung31]

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[thewupk]

The W's just keep coming

[Slippyjms]

8-7

[WaitingFor2017]

About to tie St. Louis in record.

[msstate7]

Phillies go 9-2 in last 11 games, and they lost 2 games in the standings to the braves lol

[msstate7]

I feel like tomorrow is a big test to keep the streak alive. Gray has been tough on the braves, and you never know what you'll get out of Ian. I was sorta worried about Tuesday bc stras has done well vs braves, but I like fried against nats

[thewupk]

I feel like tomorrow is a big test to keep the streak alive. Gray has been tough on the braves, and you never know what you'll get out of Ian. I was sorta worried about Tuesday bc stras has done well vs braves, but I like fried against nats

Gray has the 4th worst FIP among starters this year

[msstate7]

Gray has the 4th worst FIP among starters this year

Maybe I'm misremembering or just remembering one start vs braves, but in my mind, he's owned us

[Mad Dog Murph]

Maybe I'm misremembering or just remembering one start vs braves, but in my mind, he's owned us

3 starts
2-1
16 IP, 10 hits, 4 ER, 5 BB, 21 K’s

On the bright side he has given up 4 hr’s in the 3 games

[msstate7]

3 starts
2-1
16 IP, 10 hits, 4 ER, 5 BB, 21 K’s

On the bright side he has given up 4 hr’s in the 3 games

Maybe duvall and Olson bout to go on a HR tear

[msstate7]

fF and Olson are basically equal in ops...
FF .817
Olson .815

I raise hell about Olson, so thought I should note this

[zbhargrove]

Maybe duvall and Olson bout to go on a HR tear

Duvall has quietly been on a tear

[thewupk]

Duvall has quietly been on a tear

1000+ OPS in June

[thewupk]

Braves are only 3 GB from the top WC spot now.

[chop2chip]

Duvall has quietly been on a tear
If he can just be the 100-115 wRC+ he’s been the last few seasons, I’ll be happy.

Lineup, rotation and bullpen are all good enough that we just gotta eliminate “suck”

[CyYoung31]

First time the Braves have won 11 games in a month since last October.

[bravesfanMatt]

I know it is the first time in like 10 plus years we have won 11 or more games in a row, but is this the longest winning streak of the year?

[thewupk]

Hey guys. Duvall has a 1028 OPS in June. Is that good?

[thethe]

Hey guys. Duvall has a 1028 OPS in June. Is that good?

Someone recently said they weren’t worried about Duvall....

[Russ2dollas]

Someone recently said they weren’t worried about Duvall....

This is what Duvall does. He is hot and cold. Almost all tied to power. He will go back to cold.

Being able to be more strategic about who he hits against will help.

[chop2chip]

This is what Duvall does. He is hot and cold. Almost all tied to power. He will go back to cold.

Being able to be more strategic about who he hits against will help.

Rosario will help out a ton with this.

Hopefully Snit finds a way to balance playing time between Ozuna and Duvall.

[thewupk]

Someone recently said they weren’t worried about Duvall....

Quintana has had a pretty good year so far. It's encouraging to see Duvall hit well agaisnt a lefty.

Quintana is someone to look at during the trade deadline btw.

[Heyward]

Quintana has had a pretty good year so far. It's encouraging to see Duvall hit well agaisnt a lefty.

Quintana is someone to look at during the trade deadline btw.

I think we're okay on SP. Bullpen is a more likely target i think. Maybe LF depending how Rosario is.

[thewupk]

I think we're okay on SP. Bullpen is a more likely target i think. Maybe LF depending how Rosario is.

Quintana would put Strider back in the pen.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Quintana would put Strider back in the pen.

I was thinking SP as well....

Morton
Fried
Anderson
Wright
Strider

With Morton and Anderson having inconsistent years, we'd want to get a frontline starter if possible. However, there aren't really any available....There is always the possibility to get Syndergaard on the cheap, however, keep in mind that Soroka could be back as soon as next month.

[Heyward]

Quintana would put Strider back in the pen.

This is depending on Soroka. If he's back, i dont think we really need a SP.

[CyYoung31]

Quintana has had a pretty good year so far. It's encouraging to see Duvall hit well agaisnt a lefty.

Quintana is someone to look at during the trade deadline btw.

Ozzie for Quintana straight up?

[Russ2dollas]

Quintana has had a pretty good year so far. It's encouraging to see Duvall hit well agaisnt a lefty.

Quintana is someone to look at during the trade deadline btw.

Not sure I could stand to have him on the team. He is soooo slow.

I think Strider is the guy. My issue is that with Strider and Anderson I'm looking at a couple of guys who I think are more likely to be 4-5 inning guys in the playoffs. Maybe Wright too, b/c despite his low runs in the playoffs Wright has walked a ton. So I really need McHugh to be healthy and better. Ideally I'd like to have Soroka as a 2 inning guy. Maybe I think about a guy like Muller. Maybe Morton could play up in a short stint. Maybe a trade for a guy I think can get through a good line up once.

Fried, Wright, Anderson and Strider are my 4 SP for the playoffs and I feel pretty good about that. I just need some guys that can be a two inning bridge to the night shift.

I know they are not super proven, but i don't think we have the ammo to get a real impact guy. I'd rather pitcher Strider than Quintana.

[jpx7]

Not sure I could stand to have him on the team. He is soooo slow.

I think Strider is the guy. My issue is that with Strider and Anderson I'm looking at a couple of guys who I think are more likely to be 4-5 inning guys in the playoffs. Maybe Wright too, b/c despite his low runs in the playoffs Wright has walked a ton. So I really need McHugh to be healthy and better. Ideally I'd like to have Soroka as a 2 inning guy. Maybe I think about a guy like Muller. Maybe Morton could play up in a short stint. Maybe a trade for a guy I think can get through a good line up once.

Fried, Wright, Anderson and Strider are my 4 SP for the playoffs and I feel pretty good about that. I just need some guys that can be a two inning bridge to the night shift.

I know they are not super proven, but i don't think we have the ammo to get a real impact guy. I'd rather pitcher Strider than Quintana.

I think Mueller is a good option to go the Wright Route, pitching in AAA all season, ironing things out, and then join the playoff roster (IF APPLICABLE #nojinx), before heading into 2023 as a legit rotation candidate. The rest of the guys in AAA are a tier below—though Davidson might be able to fill a role like Dylan Lee, and Elder could yet turn into a passable 4th or 5th starter.

[chop2chip]

Quintana would put Strider back in the pen.
Strider the starter might be a thing though.

[chop2chip]

Braves drew 233,461 fans in a 6 game home stand against the Pirates and Athletics.

This is insane.

[bravesfanMatt]

Braves drew 233,461 fans in a 6 game home stand against the Pirates and Athletics.

This is insane.

AA and Wash both believe in bumps.

[chop2chip]

AA and Wash both believe in bumps.

30% attendance bump over last year
15% bump over 2019 (pre-Covid)

Hopefully AA is able to afford a better handler for Wash’s habits