GDT 6/15/22: Braves @ Gnats - Contreras Behind the Dish

[Slippyjms]

Acuña RF
Swanson SS
Riley 3B
Olson 1B
Ozuna DH
Contreras C
Duvall LF
Arcia 2B
Harris ll CF

Strider P

[Hudson2]

Strider is nasty

[Enscheff]

I don’t know if strider will ever be able to go 80+ pitches reliably, but he certainly looks like a potent weapon for 3+ innings.

[Mad Dog Murph]

Will I Am got the runner over

[Mad Dog Murph]

Arcia continues to hit

[mfree80]

Arcia comes through again.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Brewers with a 2-0 lead early. Burnes is pitching

[UNCBlue012]

Sheesh, Strider

[Mad Dog Murph]

Ownage

[The Chosen One]

Absolute filth.

[buck75]

That 84 mph slurve/slyduh works well with 99 mph fastball. Ouch!

[bravesfanforlife88]

Strider giving Stroman a run for his money in jock strap size....dude is dealing

[TURBO]

Seems like a bad review

[WaitingFor2017]

Stupid challenge

[The Chosen One]

What a waste of a challenge lol

[Enscheff]

Strider is making the Nats look like it’s the first time they’ve seen overhand pitching.

[The Chosen One]

Arcia already has more plate discipline and less frustrating ABs than Ozzie.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Jordan just said both of Harris’ HRs went to right center. It was left center dumbass

[TURBO]

Harris coming through again

[bravesfanforlife88]

Harris is good btw

[Heyward]

Harris is good btw

AA looking mighty smart keeping him over Shea. Small sample size of course.

[jpx7]

Arcia already has more plate discipline and less frustrating ABs than Ozzie.

And yet I still miss our Little King.

[Mad Dog Murph]

Acuña struggling the last few games. Time to trade while the value is still high

[jpx7]

AA looking mighty smart keeping him over Shea. Small sample size of course.

Contreras made that decision easy.

[jsebe10]

God the Nats are getting some annoying ass foul balls to keep the ABs going

[jsebe10]

Corbin Burnes shoving it up the Mets ass tonight..Only made one mistake to that inbred looking MFer McNeil.

[striker42]

Strider looks like a video game out there.

[Deester11]

Arcia already has more plate discipline and less frustrating ABs than Ozzie.
Yeah...he's better than Ozzie. Damn Smh

[jpx7]

Jeteresque.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Harris good, Olson bad

[jpx7]

Weak one-pitch PAs by Olson and Ozuna.

[msstate7]

FF .815 ops
Olson .789 ops

Neither having good years. Olson gonna have to pick it up... sub .800 is pretty awful

[Mad Dog Murph]

Marcel Ozuna, the human rally killer

[jpx7]

FF .815 ops
Olson .789 ops

Neither having good years. Olson gonna have to pick it up... sub .800 is pretty awful

Still leading the league in doubles. I still stand by the switch.

[Garmel]

Ozuna keeps swinging at low pitches. That one caused a DP.

[msstate7]

I'm fine with that. Didn't want overextending strider bc of no hits

[Heyward]

I'm fine with that. Didn't want overextending strider bc of no hits

I doubt he would have gone longer than 6 anyway.

[Heyward]

Still leading the league in doubles. I still stand by the switch.

Yeah i still think long-term it's the correct move.

[Heyward]

7-1 Brew Crew, need to hold onto this one.

[Hudson2]

10 k’s for Strider. If he could go deeper in games he’s has top of rotation stuff.

[jpx7]

Yeah i still think long-term it's the correct move.

Short-term wash, long-term win. Sorry not sorry, Freddie.

[thethe]

If Strider can get some confidence and throw his changeup more he may be able to induce some early weak contact. Thats the key to getting him consistently past the fifth inning.

[jsebe10]

If Strider can get some confidence and throw his changeup more he may be able to induce some early weak contact. Thats the key to getting him consistently past the fifth inning.

Nats had a ton of annoying foul balls…Literally fouling them off out of Contreras’ glove.

[thewupk]

Ozuna keeps swinging at low pitches. That one caused a DP.

106 ev

[Heyward]

Short-term wash, long-term win. Sorry not sorry, Freddie.

Yeah i agree too. Just sucks AA had to trade what he did for Olson. Hopefully AA can have a great draft coming up, b/c the farm right now is bleak.

[msstate7]

Short-term wash, long-term win. Sorry not sorry, Freddie.

FF 2.1 fWAR
Olson 1.2 fWAR

Lots of season left, but not a wash so far.

[Mad Dog Murph]

FF 2.1 fWAR
Olson 1.2 fWAR

Lots of season left, but not a wash so far.

Did Olson screw your wife or something? You have a real boner for the guy.

And Arcia = MVP

[jpx7]

If Strider can get some confidence and throw his changeup more he may be able to induce some early weak contact. Thats the key to getting him consistently past the fifth inning.

Was hoping to see him go to the change on 3-1 to Luis Garcia, instead of that fastball that ended up in the RF bleachers.

[WaitingFor2017]

Cishek getting inches off the plate on both sides. WTF

[jsebe10]

Fckn Alan Porter man. Completely took over the AB for Harris

[CyYoung31]

Short-term wash, long-term win. Sorry not sorry, Freddie.

But how does the “Dog In Him” compare?

[msstate7]

Did Olson screw your wife or something? You have a real boner for the guy.

And Arcia = MVP

We gave a crap load for him, and he replaced a braves' legend, so yeah, I expect much more than he's given so far.

[jpx7]

Two balls to MHII called strikes. That’s fun.

[UNCBlue012]

Cishek getting inches off the plate on both sides. WTF he did last night too.

[jpx7]

FF 2.1 fWAR
Olson 1.2 fWAR

Lots of season left, but not a wash so far.

Lots of season left.

[jpx7]

Acuña consistently under pitches rn he knows he should be driving.

[Heyward]

Should have way more than 3 runs, left so many runners on tonight.

[Mad Dog Murph]

Heredia > Acuña. Sword power!!!

[msstate7]

Lots of season left.

The gap should probably be bigger...

Olson: .347 wOBA, .353 xwoba
FF: .355 wOBA, .402 xwoba

[jpx7]

But how does the “Dog In Him” compare?

I think it’s spelled dogenem, and Olson obviously scores great there, as a True Georgian, versus the Canadian-by-way-of-California.

[msstate7]

Acuña consistently under pitches rn he knows he should be driving.

He's saving it for giants and dodgers next week

[thethe]

Was hoping to see him go to the change on 3-1 to Luis Garcia, instead of that fastball that ended up in the RF bleachers.

Got to throw another 1-2 per inning. Keep these guys off the fastball which will also result in fewer foul balls.

[CyYoung31]

Can this ump at least call it equally both ways?

[thethe]

The gap should probably be bigger...

Olson: .347 wOBA, .353 xwoba
FF: .355 wOBA, .402 xwoba

Freeman is a borderline HOF player in his prime. I definitely expected Freeman to be better this season.

[Heyward]

The gap should probably be bigger...

Olson: .347 wOBA, .353 xwoba
FF: .355 wOBA, .402 xwoba

Olson hasnt been as great as expected. But it's a long-term move. Next 3 years probably Freddie, next 6 it's Olson unless Freddie can age like fine wine.

[jpx7]

The gap should probably be bigger...

Olson: .347 wOBA, .353 xwoba
FF: .355 wOBA, .402 xwoba

Stop crying over spilled milk. Turn the page. Alea iacta est.

[jsebe10]

Can this ump at least call it equally both ways?

Looks like Porter is on that “ veteran - rookie” bull **** with his zone.

[CyYoung31]

Umm…why is Chavez warming up in a two run game with the bullpen having essentially just gotten two nights off?

[The Chosen One]

We have an off day tomorrow and Snit wants to leave Strider in already at almost 100 pitches.

[CyYoung31]

Also, Strider shouldn’t be in there anymore.

[msstate7]

Umm…why is Chavez warming up in a two run game with the bullpen having essentially just gotten two nights off?

I'm guessing...
Smith 7th
Minter 8th
Jansen 9th

Maybe strider can get us through this inning

[CyYoung31]

YO. Someone wake this dumbass old man up.

[CyYoung31]

I'm guessing...
Smith 7th
Minter 8th
Jansen 9th

Maybe strider can get us through this inning

He’s at 103 pitches and clearly tiring. This is really pushing it.

[jpx7]

Hook was two batters ago.

[Southcack77]

Seems like 100 pitches is a little much

[TURBO]

Is Snit asleep?

[Hudson2]

Can’t believe they’ve let Strider throw this many pitches.

[thethe]

I'm ok trying to push Strider here and see how he responds against what is effectively a minor league lineup. If it doesn't work I still think we are likely to win this game.

[Hudson2]

Strider is legit.

[jpx7]

Strider is legit.

Left in too long, still strikes out Nelson Cruz on his last pitch. He does indeed look legit. Excited to see him develop that change more. I know he’s very cerebral, so he’s working on his development despite his great raw stuff.

[CyYoung31]

The bullpen has basically just had two days off in a row, they have an off day tomorrow. Yet he's trying to destroy Strider's arm and also has Chavez coming in in a two run game. Dude is brain dead.

[WaitingFor2017]

Bringing in Chavez to face switch hitters?

[TURBO]

Should have been Smith here

[The Chosen One]

You have two lefties in the pen to go against Bell and Ruiz and you use Chavez.

[msstate7]

Last 3 starters for strider...
87 pitches
93 pitches
106 pitches

Probably a few too many, but they've worked em up to it

[jpx7]

The bullpen has basically just had two days off in a row, they have an off day tomorrow. Yet he's trying to destroy Strider's arm and also has Chavez coming in in a two run game. Dude is brain dead.

Immediately walks Bell on five pitches. Some sick strategery.

[CyYoung31]

Left in too long, still strikes out Nelson Cruz on his last pitch. He does indeed look legit. Excited to see him develop that change more. I know he’s very cerebral, so he’s working on his development despite his great raw stuff.

We won’t get to see him develop if Snitker keeps letting him throw 110 pitches a game.

[jpx7]

I’m livid.

[CyYoung31]

facepalm

[The Chosen One]

Third lefty in a row and Minter would have been perfect to go 4 outs.

[WaitingFor2017]

Snitker is too damn strict with "inning roles" in the modern era of baseball. It's so tiring seeing this talent being managed by such a dinosaur.

[jsebe10]

That run shouldn’t be charged to the vacating pitcher of the replacement pitcher walks the first hitter to put him scoring position.

[Heyward]

1-run lead now, need to add another run or so. Not sure if 3 sticks.

[thewupk]

Need to score some runs.

[msstate7]

If it's any consolation, AA will make the decisions in the playoffs like last year. I assume we have enough talent to get us there despite snit

[The Chosen One]

Just goes to show you the team wins inspite of Snit not because of him.

[jpx7]

Chávez is a useful pitcher for this team (especially because his arrival also meant addition-by-substraction of Newcomb). But that was not his moment of optimal utility.

[Heyward]

Keep forgetting about the DH lol, yeah no idea why Minter wasnt in when he hasnt pitched in 2 days.

[jsebe10]

Dansby needs to go on the very first pitch.

[CyYoung31]

I’m livid.

This is exactly how I felt 6-7 times with Snit last year.

[thewupk]

those are runs!

[jsebe10]

BOOya!!

[Mad Dog Murph]

Riley in beast mode

[The Chosen One]

Snit DID it

[Hudson2]

Riley is a bad dude. Extend him this offseason. Fried too.

[jpx7]

Dope.

[CyYoung31]

He ****ing murdered that ball.

[The Chosen One]

Cishek will be an AA pickup when O Day retires.

[UNCBlue012]

Let’s go!

[jsebe10]

Olson is lost once again.

[jpx7]

This is exactly how I felt 6-7 times with Snit last year.

That few?

[The Chosen One]

That few?

That's a conservative number for sure.

[msstate7]

Olson is lost once again.

Maybe he'll warm up as some others cool off. He's hard to watch right now

[thewupk]

Ozuna creeping close to 100 WRC+. lol

[jsebe10]

Man..really good AB and eyes for Ozuna that sequence. He normally jumps at those

[thewupk]

Maybe he'll warm up as some others cool off. He's hard to watch right now

so is Acuna

[Russ2dollas]

Olson hate I don’t get. I’m frustrated with the defense.

He was great hitting early. Now struggling. But it’s a new league and lots of new pitchers. Lots of change for him. I feel very confident he’s going to be an impact bat over the deal.

Like others said the deal was about 8 years not this year.

[msstate7]

Olson k rate is up a good bit from last year...
2021 - 16.8
2022 - 23.6

That's gotta be at least somewhat concerning

[Russ2dollas]

Ozuna creeping close to 100 WRC+. lol
Last I looked he was still hitting the ball really hard.

I’m hoping he can get good enough we can move him.
Still seems like he’s a top 3 hitter on the brewers

[msstate7]

so is Acuna

Yep. Maybe those 2 carry us next week vs tougher competition

[CyYoung31]

That few?


That's a conservative number for sure.

There were around 6-7 games in the first half last year that Snitker made some absolutely infuriating pitching decisions that directly and immediately cost us those games.

[jpx7]

Olson k rate is up a good bit from last year...
2021 - 16.8
2022 - 23.6

That's gotta be at least somewhat concerning

Get help. Loss is hard; but the first step of grieving is admitting it’s time to move on.

[thewupk]

Last I looked he was still hitting the ball really hard.

I’m hoping he can get good enough we can move him.
Still seems like he’s a top 3 hitter on the brewers

I suspect the Braves would have to eat a ton of money or bring back a worse contract.

[msstate7]

Olson hate I don’t get. I’m frustrated with the defense.

He was great hitting early. Now struggling. But it’s a new league and lots of new pitchers. Lots of change for him. I feel very confident he’s going to be an impact bat over the deal.

Like others said the deal was about 8 years not this year.
Wut? He was a better hitter than FF last year. He was absolutely expected to be great this year. He still can be

[WaitingFor2017]

Carl Edwards Jr. getting a WS ring after appearing in 1 game with Atlanta last year and giving up 3 runs lol

[Heyward]

Last I looked he was still hitting the ball really hard.

I’m hoping he can get good enough we can move him.
Still seems like he’s a top 3 hitter on the brewers

He'd be a top 3 hitter on the Brewers, but what are we getting back and how much money do we eat in the deal?

[msstate7]

Get help. Loss is hard; but the first step of grieving is admitting it’s time to move on.

41.7% increase in k rate, no concern for you

[msstate7]

He'd be a top 3 hitter on the Brewers, but what are we getting back and how much money do we eat in the deal?

Why would we trade him? Who would you replace him with?

[thewupk]

Chavez not giving a **** out there

[CyYoung31]

Snitker is clearly not taking this Nationals team seriously. I’d be insulted if I were Davey.

[CyYoung31]

Chavez not giving a **** out there

That’s his best quality.

[CyYoung31]

Lmfao

[Heyward]

I actually didnt hate keeping in Chavez even if it backfired. Minter's been a bit over-worked.

[Heyward]

Why would we trade him? Who would you replace him with?

I didnt say i would, Russ said it. If we did trade Ozuna, it's a swap of bad contracts and Ozuna's isnt that bad.

[Russ2dollas]

Why would we trade him? Who would you replace him with?
I made it up. I don’t know.

I don’t think we would do it this year. But in the off-season the brewers need offense. Two years on his desk isn’t that bad.

If we had pina back wild bill can dh or play corner. If you free up big money you can spend it.

I think over the large sample his numbers will be good bc he keeps hitting it hard. Seems to be getting more selective

[CyYoung31]

This mf’er right here.

[The Chosen One]

Now Snit can't use Minter and Jansen for the save. Guess that means another Chavez inning and Cruz

[The Chosen One]

Swanson saying PAY ME.

Arcia saying '23 START ME

[thewupk]

Arcia > Albies

[Russ2dollas]

Wut? He was a better hitter than FF last year. He was absolutely expected to be great this year. He still can be
If ff would sign a one year deal we’d have ff still.

We wanted freeman. Just not at the deal they were offering us. Probably would have signed him at that dodger deal.

My point was Olson target was about him being younger.

Yes we expect him to produce. But the decision to trade so much for him vs signing ff to the gun to the head agent price is not based on who is better this year

[CyYoung31]

Harris > Acuña

[The Chosen One]

Harris > Acuña

The American Acuña.

[jpx7]

41.7% increase in k rate, no concern for you

His k-rate creeping back up from his career-low to his career rates? No, I can live with losing Freeman.

[Heyward]

If ff would sign a one year deal we’d have ff still.

We wanted freeman. Just not at the deal they were offering us. Probably would have signed him at that dodger deal.

My point was Olson target was about him being younger.

Yes we expect him to produce. But the decision to trade so much for him vs signing ff to the gun to the head agent price is not based on who is better this year

AA was probably at 4-1 or 5 years with FF. I do agree with you on Olson.

[CyYoung31]

The American Acuña.

The American Venezuelan Trout.

[Mad Dog Murph]

Are we still talking about Freddie Freeman? Jesus

[Russ2dollas]

Love Harris but trying not to get too excited. A lot of hits in the ground. Maybe some babip luck or lack of data for shifts. He hits the ball hard though so it doesn’t look like Chris Johnson

[WaitingFor2017]

Acuna needs that day off tomorrow and may need to DH on Friday. He's had a rough last week.

[Hudson2]

Riley wow

[Mad Dog Murph]

Wow

[The Chosen One]

Riley waking up now. Olson will wake up in Chicago.

[CyYoung31]

Best 3B in Braves history. Can’t even think of a close 2nd or 3rd.

[jpx7]

Are we still talking about Freddie Freeman? Jesus

Right? Who gets hung up on former players like that?

[Checks Heyward’s stats again.]

[jsebe10]

Lmao. They didn’t have to do my man Carl like that 🤣🤣

[thethe]

Oooh boy - Riley is a man.

[CyYoung31]

Olson will wake up in Chicago.

Damn, we trading him already?

[jpx7]

Lots of hard contact off Carl Edwards Jr. I’m shocked.

[thethe]

Best 3B in Braves history. Can’t even think of a close 2nd or 3rd.

Disgraceful you could forget Troy Glaus

[jsebe10]

Best 3B in Braves history. Can’t even think of a close 2nd or 3rd.

Ken Caminiti …Duh

[CyYoung31]

Lots of hard contact off Carl Edwards Jr. I’m shocked.

2x World Series Champion.

[Heyward]

Trying to close this w/o Minter, Smith or Jansen would be good.

[msstate7]

When things are going bad for you, the pitcher getting pummeled gets pulled in favor a platoon advantage pitcher. Come on Matt

[WaitingFor2017]

Finish this game with Will Smith/O'Day and Jesus Cruz.

[jpx7]

Disgraceful you could forget Troy Glaus

Vinny Castilla says hello.

[thethe]

Vinny Castilla says hello.

DERO

[jsebe10]

Vinny Castilla says hello.

You ever seen his stat line? Dude was putting up fckn video game numbers in Coors…problem is he had to play outside of there lol. His numbers were retarded in the 90s

[msstate7]

Maybe this will get Olson going

[CyYoung31]

Vinny Castilla says hello.

Good ‘ole SVOD.

[Heyward]

Wow Olson got a hit. Trade him, right msstate

[thethe]

You ever seen his stat line? Dude was putting up fckn video game numbers in Coors…problem is he had to play outside of there lol. His numbers were retarded in the 90s

The Big CAT was even better.

[jpx7]

Good ‘ole SVOD.

RIP acronyms.

[CyYoung31]

You ever seen his stat line? Dude was putting up fckn video game numbers in Coors…problem is he had to play outside of there lol. His numbers were retarded in the 90s

People forget that he was on the 91 and 92 Braves.

[jpx7]

The Big CAT was even better.

Galaraga was actually good outside of Coors.

[CyYoung31]

The Big CAT was even better.

Andres the Giant actually good outside Coors. What a beast he was for us in 1998.

[Deester11]

Best 3B in Braves history. Can’t even think of a close 2nd or 3rd.
This is some world class trolling...lol. Love it Cy..

[Hudson2]

The Big CAT was even better.

Walker and Bichette made for a strong offense back then.

[The Chosen One]

Andres the Giant actually good outside Coors. What a beast he was for us in 1998.

The immediate bat drop after he knows he crushed a homer and the admiring of it. So cool.

Especially that slam in San Diego.

[thethe]

Andres the Giant actually good outside Coors. What a beast he was for us in 1998.

My favorite first basemen for the Braves other than Laroche.....

[thethe]

People forget that he was on the 91 and 92 Braves.

Going to be flat out honest right now.

I had no idea since you just posted this.

Wow

[jsebe10]

The Big CAT was even better.

For sure! I remember in 96’ he hit 47 bombs and drove in 150 and still finished 6th in the MVP race..lost to roided out Caminiti

I’ll never forget that bomb he hit off Kevin Brown at Joe Robbie Stafium in FL..I think it was like 535ft or something. Grand slam.

[Garmel]

Now he brings out Minter. Sheesh.

[CyYoung31]

I mean, I would’ve been cool with giving Minter four straight days off.

[thethe]

Umm - You're supposed to use your mop up guys in a 5+ run game even if they've pitched recently. Those guys sometimes go a week without getting into a game.

Ugh.

[jpx7]

“Gotta keep the horses fresh. Can’t do that if they’re in the stable.”

[WaitingFor2017]

Cruz needs the 9th. He hasn't pitched since Saturday.

[jsebe10]

https://youtu.be/5ArDKjEr_EE

[msstate7]

Coming into the season, I had Contreras and Arcia leading the team in ops at over 1.000. I nailed it... it was easy to see it coming

[jsebe10]

Coming into the season, I had Contreras and Arcia leading the team in ops at over 1.000. I nailed it... it was easy to see it coming

I’m pretty sure I vaguely remember a post where you wanted Arcia and his family executed after a strike out lol

[Mad Dog Murph]

I’m pretty sure I vaguely remember a post where you wanted Arcia and his family executed after a strike out lol

Sounds about right

[CyYoung31]

Did the Braves overhaul this guy’s swing or something? He looks like a completely different hitter than last year, and he’s been doing it all year while playing sparingly.

[msstate7]

I’m pretty sure I vaguely remember a post where you wanted Arcia and his family executed after a strike out lol

Probably mistaking him for Olson.

[CyYoung31]

Acuña bomb incoming.

[Heyward]

Yeah not cool with using Minter. I guess to keep him sharp but he's pitched like half our games already.

[Mad Dog Murph]

Acuña bomb incoming.

He’s bombing alright

[Tapate50]

Anyone remember when Riley wasn’t rated with plus power

[CyYoung31]

Yikes, Acuña.

[Mad Dog Murph]

0-6 with 7 left on base. Ouch

Duvalesque

[Heyward]

Awful game by Ronnie. Honestly would have given him the day off tonight.

[jpx7]

Awful game for the defense.

[TURBO]

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[CrimsonCowboy]

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[CyYoung31]

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[jpx7]

Sloppy final inning, but a win's a win.

[CyYoung31]

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[BravesBlock]

Fred McGriff says hello

[CyYoung31]

Y’all remember this?

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[Hudson2]

The streak has been amazing. Can’t believe we are only 4 games back now. Everybody a couple of weeks ago said the division was gonna be almost impossible to catch up to.

[Heyward]

The streak has been amazing. Can’t believe we are only 4 games back now. Everybody a couple of weeks ago said the division was gonna be almost impossible to catch up to.

Let's see where it is after next weekends games vs the Dodgers and Giants. It's gonna come down to the head to head games when it's said and done though. We've certainly made it a more interesting race than it was 2 weeks ago lol. Be nice if Brewers could win Thursday to knock it down to 3.5 going into the weekend.

[Slippyjms]

11-7

[Hulavol]

Slippy with a solid rehab.

[thewupk]

Braves are now a game up on the Giants for the 2nd WC spot

[thewupk]

Riley is tied with Alonso for most HRs in the NL at 18

[bravesfanMatt]

Seriously. Why did we have to go through so many Elder/Davidson starts to get to this guy. I agree with many here Strider has TOR stuff if he can get one more good pitch (cutter/change). The slider isn’t good enough imo. The Fastball is elite. But he is light years ahead of the other scrubs we have been running out there.

[thethe]

Seriously. Why did we have to go through so many Elder/Davidson starts to get to this guy. I agree with many here Strider has TOR stuff if he can get one more good pitch (cutter/change). The slider isn’t good enough imo. The Fastball is elite. But he is light years ahead of the other scrubs we have been running out there.

Striders year in the minors last year is what informed AA on his off-season decision not to get another arm. But easing him in with some long relief outings may have been part of a larger plan.

[Russ2dollas]

I think the main strider issue is innings.

He had tj. Then he had like 60 innings. Then 80 last year. He’s going to be at 80 innings soon.

They really wanted to keep his innings down. At this rate he’ll double his innings from previous year. Is that ok for his arm?

I think they wanted to baby the arm more. Hopefully they feel he can handle it at it is not just desperation

[thethe]

He was at 94 last year from what I’m seeing.

[The Chosen One]

I think the main strider issue is innings.

He had tj. Then he had like 60 innings. Then 80 last year. He’s going to be at 80 innings soon.

They really wanted to keep his innings down. At this rate he’ll double his innings from previous year. Is that ok for his arm?

I think they wanted to baby the arm more. Hopefully they feel he can handle it at it is not just desperation

very frustrating when snit puts these so cold “benchmarks” then blows past it. His first start he was only expected to go 60 pitches. And went to 80.

snit has been trying to extend him so much.

[msstate7]

Any injury updates for matzek, yates, soroka, or Rosario?

[msstate7]

The amazing part of this winning streak to me is that Olson really hasn't hit during it, .248/.300/.431 (last 15 games ). No matter the opponents, I can't see a braves' team the last few years ripping off a long winning streak with FF not hitting... the supporting cast seems to be getting better. That's a nice thought since I expect Olson to get going, soon.

[bravesfanforlife88]

The amazing part of this winning streak to me is that Olson really hasn't hit during it, .248/.300/.431 (last 15 games ). No matter the opponents, I can't see a braves' team the last few years ripping off a long winning streak with FF not hitting... the supporting cast seems to be getting better. That's a nice thought since I expect Olson to get going, soon.

Hope he does for our sake....

The incredible thing about winning 14 in a row is that we haven't had a blow up game. No matter the opponent, usually something happens and you lose a game or two over that stretch. Braves starting pitching has bent a little bit recently, but the offense was there to pick them up.

[bravesfanMatt]

Hope he does for our sake....

The incredible thing about winning 14 in a row is that we haven't had a blow up game. No matter the opponent, usually something happens and you lose a game or two over that stretch. Braves starting pitching has bent a little bit recently, but the offense was there to pick them up.

The pitching has been pretty solid this run, only giving up 2.9 runs per... but you are right, the offense has been lit scoring 7.2 runs per game.

[thethe]

The pitching has been pretty solid this run, only giving up 2.9 runs per... but you are right, the offense has been lit scoring 7.2 runs per game.

Odd considering we are supposed to have weak starting pitching that AA screwed up on by not spending money in the offseason....

[thethe]

Bottom line is the Braves are playing well and we are the defending champs. As long as we play well it doesn't matter who is on the other side of the field.

[Hulavol]

I tell you one thing, I greatly enjoy Emma and the Elephant, but the broom that has been showing up a couple of times a week is damn fine to see on a regular basis too. A fella could get mighty used to that…

[thewupk]

Odd considering we are supposed to have weak starting pitching that AA screwed up on by not spending money in the offseason....

Among starters with 60 innings Morton has the 13th worst FIP. Anderson is the 18th worst. If you want to just go by ERA then Morton is the 5th worst and Anderson the 11th worst. That's an issue whether you want to believe it or not. The Braves pitching has been great outside of that.

[thethe]

Among starters with 60 innings Morton has the 13th worst FIP. Anderson is the 18th worst. If you want to just go by ERA then Morton is the 5th worst and Anderson the 11th worst. That's an issue whether you want to believe it or not. The Braves pitching has been great outside of that.

But those guys were not in question at the start of the year and I fully believe Morton is going to be fine by seasons end.

Concerned about Anderson but we have Ynoa/Soroka/Muller in reserve waiting.

[bravesfanforlife88]

The pitching has been pretty solid this run, only giving up 2.9 runs per... but you are right, the offense has been lit scoring 7.2 runs per game.

This last pass through the rotation against the Pirates and Nationals the starters have given up :

Strider: 2 ER
Fried: 4 ER
Anderson: 4 ER
Wright: 3 ER
Morton 4 ER

Seeing that in writing now makes you appreciate the offense taking off!

[msstate7]

Morton is about to get right. I really feel no ST coming off the injury hurt him. He's gonna be fine

[thewupk]

But those guys were not in question at the start of the year and I fully believe Morton is going to be fine by seasons end.

Concerned about Anderson but we have Ynoa/Soroka/Muller in reserve waiting.

Anderson has been in question since he got to the majors. Morton not so much but he is 38 coming off of a broken leg so maybe he should have been. His walks are way up and his HR/9 are the highest in a decade. IMO this points to the beginning of the end for him. It happens.

[thethe]

Anderson has been in question since he got to the majors. Morton not so much but he is 38 coming off of a broken leg so maybe he should have been. His walks are way up and his HR/9 are the highest in a decade. IMO this points to the beginning of the end for him. It happens.

I think Morton still has more in the tank. I do agree on Anderson though. His ceiling looks to be a middle of the rotation starter.

[msstate7]

Marcell...
K rate at career rate, 21.2
Bb rate lower than career, 6.2 (career 7.9)
Iso at career rate, .188
Xwoba .362, wOBA .306
Babip .251 (career .311)

Marcell is just fine.

[bravesfanMatt]

Anderson has been in question since he got to the majors. Morton not so much but he is 38 coming off of a broken leg so maybe he should have been. His walks are way up and his HR/9 are the highest in a decade. IMO this points to the beginning of the end for him. It happens.

I think there were plenty who said a pitcher who is almost 40 coming off an injury should be a question mark. No one says we need more pitching because of X and Y pitchers.. it is because all pitchers are capable of being questions... You need 10 starters, at least, to make it through the year. Not because Elder sucks, or Anderson regressed, but because Fried will get hurt or Morton will be bad or a million other reasons.

[thethe]

The offense will carry us to the playoffs.

Fried/Morton/Wright/Strider/Bullpen will bring home another title

[bravesfanMatt]

The offense will carry us to the playoffs.

Fried/Morton/Wright/Strider/Bullpen will bring home another title

I am telling you, Soroka's name will be in there somehow. I just feel like he is going to come back like gangbusters. I actually worry about Strider as a starter still. He needs that 3rd pitch. I think he threw a few changes last night so hopefully that is a sign he is trying it out more.

[thethe]

I am telling you, Soroka's name will be in there somehow. I just feel like he is going to come back like gangbusters. I actually worry about Strider as a starter still. He needs that 3rd pitch. I think he threw a few changes last night so hopefully that is a sign he is trying it out more.

I could see Strider being pushed to the pen by a combination of Soroka and an innings limit.

I wouldn't mind that at all but if the innings limit wasn't a thing I think Strider never leaves the rotation. That fastball is amazing and he will throw it in the zone (but not in the heart of it).

[WaitingFor2017]

I keep seeing and hearing about the Mets getting two “big weapons” back soon. Surely that fanbase knows how injury-plagued deGrom has been since 2020. How can you trust him? Scherzer has been really good, but will he get another dead arm by September/October?

[Nerfherders]

The Braves have already won more games in June than they did in May, and already are guaranteed a winning record in June... on June 15th. They are ten games above .500 for the first time this season - they got to ten games over .500 for the first time last season on August 21st. That was in the midst of a very similar 16-2 streak, taking them from 52-55 to 68-57. The biggest difference is that they gained 9.5 games in the division on that run, while in this one, only 6.5 so far. They had actually gained 11 games on the Mets in that span, who were already in third place by the end of it.

[bravesfanMatt]

The Braves have won 14 straight for the first time this year.. I can't remember the last 14 game win streak, but it is cool to watch.. Now we just need to focus and hopefully pass the longest winning streak of the year..whatever that is..

[bravesfanMatt]

I keep seeing and hearing about the Mets getting two “big weapons” back soon. Surely that fanbase knows how injury-plagued deGrom has been since 2020. How can you trust him? Scherzer has been really good, but will he get another dead arm by September/October?

I would love to get Scherzer and DeGrom back. That is a scary team if they are healthy... especially in the playoffs.

[msstate7]

So how many PA does it take to declare Contreras, Harris, and Arcia as real? Harris and Arcia are the ones we really need to know about since the break is a little over a month away

[thewupk]

So how many PA does it take to declare Contreras, Harris, and Arcia as real? Harris and Arcia are the ones we really need to know about since the break is a little over a month away

Arcia isn't real but will be fine until ozzie is back

[Enscheff]

I could see Strider being pushed to the pen by a combination of Soroka and an innings limit.

I wouldn't mind that at all but if the innings limit wasn't a thing I think Strider never leaves the rotation. That fastball is amazing and he will throw it in the zone (but not in the heart of it).

I think it's far more likely Strider and Soroka are part of a semi 6 man rotation where every SP gets plenty of extra rest.

[thethe]

I think it's far more likely Strider and Soroka are part of a semi 6 man rotation where every SP gets plenty of extra rest.

I'm a fan of this. If you got the horses why not.

Are there numbers showing how a pitcher does third time through the lineup on normal or extra rest?

[Enscheff]

So how many PA does it take to declare Contreras, Harris, and Arcia as real? Harris and Arcia are the ones we really need to know about since the break is a little over a month away

Well...

In 70 PAs Harris is rocking a .400 BABIP, is soundly outperforming is .326 xwOBA with a .385 wOBA, and is only walking 4.3% of the time. If any early career profile suggest massive negative regression is coming, it's that one. I would expect some struggles are imminent, and he will have to adjust...probably to pitchers working him on the inside part of the plate.

In 107 PAs Contreras looks mostly legit. The .333 BABIP is high, but not crazy. The 11.3% BB rate suggests he has a good approach. The HR/FB rate of 40% is obviously unsustainable, but losing a few HRs won't tank his value. He looks like a legit bat that needs some time at DH in addition to 50% of the PAs at catcher.

Arcia is living off a .439 BABIP. It is a mirage.

[CyYoung31]

I’ll take a mirage for two months.

[thewupk]

Well...

In 70 PAs Harris is rocking a .400 BABIP, is soundly outperforming is .326 xwOBA with a .385 wOBA, and is only walking 4.3% of the time. If any early career profile suggest massive negative regression is coming, it's that one. I would expect some struggles are imminent, and he will have to adjust...probably to pitchers working him on the inside part of the plate.

In 107 PAs Contreras looks mostly legit. The .333 BABIP is high, but not crazy. The 11.3% BB rate suggests he has a good approach. The HR/FB rate of 40% is obviously unsustainable, but losing a few HRs won't tank his value. He looks like a legit bat that needs some time at DH in addition to 50% of the PAs at catcher.

Arcia is living off a .439 BABIP. It is a mirage.

Harris obviously won't hit the way he currently has forever. But even if he was in line with his xwOBA of 326 that would be good for ~108 WRC+. Which with his defense and base running makes him a 5-6 WAR player. It's early but it looks like his base running and defense are around prime Inciarte levels. Remains to be seen what he will become with the bat but if he's an above-average hitter he's going to be a hell of a player.

[zbhargrove]

Well...

In 70 PAs Harris is rocking a .400 BABIP, is soundly outperforming is .326 xwOBA with a .385 wOBA, and is only walking 4.3% of the time. If any early career profile suggest massive negative regression is coming, it's that one. I would expect some struggles are imminent, and he will have to adjust...probably to pitchers working him on the inside part of the plate.

In 107 PAs Contreras looks mostly legit. The .333 BABIP is high, but not crazy. The 11.3% BB rate suggests he has a good approach. The HR/FB rate of 40% is obviously unsustainable, but losing a few HRs won't tank his value. He looks like a legit bat that needs some time at DH in addition to 50% of the PAs at catcher.

Arcia is living off a .439 BABIP. It is a mirage.

I’m not trying to paint what Arcia is doing as real but it is interesting that his wOBA is almost the same as his xwOBA… I don’t think he’s a regular starter through the year but I think he has found something in the new swing to be a useful part time player.

The walk rate from Harris is a little concerning but didn’t he walk quite a bit more in the minors? Maybe that will start to normalize a bit more

[thethe]

Anytime BABIP is looked at you should also reference batted ball profile.

So Arcia hasn't been crazy 'lucky' but we should also not expect him to perform at this level. Unless of course you think he is lucky to hit the ball hard and then thats a different story.

[Enscheff]

Anytime BABIP is looked at you should also reference batted ball profile.

So Arcia hasn't been crazy 'lucky' but we should also not expect him to perform at this level. Unless of course you think he is lucky to hit the ball hard and then thats a different story.

Nobody maintains a BABIP of .400+. The highest true talent BABIP is roughly .350.

Now, of course, that's not to say folks can't carry an elevated BABIP for an extended period of time. Chris Johnson's 2013 batting title is a good example of an unsustainable BABIP being sustained for an abnormally long time. Somehow the Braves didn't understand that, and gave him an extension that didn't work out too well.

So while Arcia could maybe carry a .400 BABIP for a couple months, it is far more likely it drops to something much closer to the usual MLB value of .300-.320.

[Enscheff]

I’m not trying to paint what Arcia is doing as real but it is interesting that his wOBA is almost the same as his xwOBA… I don’t think he’s a regular starter through the year but I think he has found something in the new swing to be a useful part time player.

The walk rate from Harris is a little concerning but didn’t he walk quite a bit more in the minors? Maybe that will start to normalize a bit more

I think with Harris we are seeing the fact he was rushed a bit showing up in the low walk rate. I don't think Harris will ever be a big time walk guy, but I'd be willing to bet he's not Albies level aggressive.