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Slippyjms
07-24-2022, 09:44 AM
Acuña RF
Swanson SS
Olson 1B
Riley 3B
Ozuna DH
Contreras C
Arcia 2B
Heredia LF
Harris ll CF

Anderson P

Slippyjms
07-24-2022, 09:45 AM
Duvall to the IL. Ford up.

bravesfanMatt
07-24-2022, 09:51 AM
Duvall to the IL. Ford up.

When I was a kid Ford stood for fix or repair daily. Now it stands for **** our reserve depth.

clvclv
07-24-2022, 10:33 AM
When I was a kid Ford stood for fix or repair daily. Now it stands for **** our reserve depth.

Tempting fate, I know, but I don't see the big deal. The only LH SPs they're likely to see over the next 10 days are Suarez and possibly Bumgarner - can always have Ozuna play LF on those days and let Contreras or d'Arnaud DH if Snitker wants the extra RH bat in the lineup.

Given MadBum's 4.68 xFIP, there's probably not a whole lot of reason to worry about sitting Rosario against him.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 10:43 AM
Any update on cano?

chop2chip
07-24-2022, 10:47 AM
Any update on cano?

Dehydration. I imagine he’s good to go

thethe
07-24-2022, 11:06 AM
Why would we not start Rosario. Heredia will not be on the postseason roster after the trade deadline acquisition.

Silly.

Enscheff
07-24-2022, 11:11 AM
Everyone here understands the concept of platoon advantage, right?

bravesnumberone
07-24-2022, 11:24 AM
If Heredia, who has some pop up against lefties, is going to be on the roster, why not give him at bats?

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 11:26 AM
Why would we not start Rosario. Heredia will not be on the postseason roster after the trade deadline acquisition.

Silly.

What would be silly is putting Rosario in against a lefty with how he's been playing.

Mad Dog Murph
07-24-2022, 12:09 PM
What would be silly is putting Rosario in against a lefty with how he's been playing.

He doesn’t understand. Don’t bother

clvclv
07-24-2022, 12:10 PM
What would be silly is putting Rosario in against a lefty with how he's been playing.

Definitely ignores the platoon advantage, so you don't do it against Suarez - but is anybody really worried about punting one spot in the order against MadBum? As I mentioned, he's the only other LH starter they're likely going to see while Duvall is down. I'd think you play Ozuna on defense against both those guys to maintain the platoon advantage if you have to, but if the choice is starting Rosario against MadBum so you keep Heredia on the bench in case something happens to Harris (so there's no danger of having Acuna need to slide over to CF at any point), I'd be OK with losing the platoon advantage two times through the order - the rest of the lineup SHOULD beat Bumgarner regardless of who stands in LF.

Enscheff
07-24-2022, 12:40 PM
The dot on the strike zone graphic appears to be a few inches lower than the ball. If the same tech was being used to call strikes it would be a big problem.

striker42
07-24-2022, 12:41 PM
Looks like bad Ian Anderson might be here today.

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 12:42 PM
Almost like clockwork... last game of a series and a day game... gonna struggle

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 12:43 PM
Ian's not fooling anyone

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 12:43 PM
The dot on the strike zone graphic appears to be a few inches lower than the ball. If the same tech was being used to call strikes it would be a big problem.

Just happened again... I think you're right... sure didn't look the same

Enscheff
07-24-2022, 12:44 PM
Chip complaining about Ian pitching up after Ian has been pitching up for years.

Enscheff
07-24-2022, 12:45 PM
Angels saved all their BABIP luck for this one inning.

CyYoung31
07-24-2022, 12:46 PM
If Ian can’t get non Major Leaguers out, what is he doing on the roster?

Now, to be fair, it’s been nothing but bloop hits, but if you can’t miss bats against garbage hitters, then GTFO.

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 12:46 PM
Man I want Ian out of the rotation... I know he's been unlucky so far this game but he's also had some hits tattooed

CrimsonCowboy
07-24-2022, 12:47 PM
We’ve seen how good Ian can be, but he’s so dang inconsistent

thethe
07-24-2022, 12:48 PM
What would be silly is putting Rosario in against a lefty with how he's been playing.

Or maybe you find a way to get a struggling guy in the lineup regardless over someone who won’t be on the postseason roster.

CyYoung31
07-24-2022, 12:50 PM
This is pathetic.

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 12:50 PM
Come on guys

CrimsonCowboy
07-24-2022, 12:51 PM
These last two hitters were bad luck

CyYoung31
07-24-2022, 12:51 PM
Garbage hit after garbage hit. But Ian’s not doing himself any favors. He should be embarrassed.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 12:51 PM
4 of these could've easily been outs. They weren't, but it has been some really tough luck

msstate7
07-24-2022, 12:52 PM
Get a couple runs here

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 12:52 PM
Let's hope the offense is ready to go

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 12:54 PM
Or maybe you find a way to get a struggling guy in the lineup regardless over someone who won’t be on the postseason roster.

I'm not confident Rosario will even be on the postseason roster

CrimsonCowboy
07-24-2022, 12:54 PM
Good news is that there are nine innings to get back in this

striker42
07-24-2022, 12:54 PM
Anderson is only marginally a starter at this point.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 12:55 PM
Anderson is only marginally a starter at this point.

He's a #5, so that's ok

msstate7
07-24-2022, 12:57 PM
Why in the world can Acuna not lift anymore?

CyYoung31
07-24-2022, 12:57 PM
It’s over.

CyYoung31
07-24-2022, 12:58 PM
Why in the world can Acuna not lift anymore?

He’s not himself when he’s hungry.

striker42
07-24-2022, 12:58 PM
Garbage hit after garbage hit. But Ian’s not doing himself any favors. He should be embarrassed.

Ian wasn't missing any bats. Everything was completely hittable. Lots weren't hit hard but that's what you get when you're throwing so many hittable pitches.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 12:59 PM
This pitcher is a punk. See the look on an obvious ball?

thethe
07-24-2022, 12:59 PM
I'm not confident Rosario will even be on the postseason roster

This is worst than an extreme I’d say.

Maybe it’ll be right but after last year I doubt it.

WaitingFor2017
07-24-2022, 01:00 PM
Chip just said that the Braves haven't seen Detmers. True. The Angels hadn't seen Ian Anderson either.

CyYoung31
07-24-2022, 01:01 PM
Soft tossing lefty that the Braves have never seen.

Zero chance.

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 01:02 PM
Soft tossing lefty that the Braves have never seen.

Zero chance.

Plus day game plus chance to sweep

striker42
07-24-2022, 01:07 PM
If there was someone knocking on the door in AAA, Anderson might be headed to Gwinnett after today. Sadly there's no one.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 01:10 PM
If there was someone knocking on the door in AAA, Anderson might be headed to Gwinnett after today. Sadly there's no one.

I don't really know what else muller could do to earn a shot...

11.2 k9, 2.5 bb9
2.96 era
3.35 FIP
.308 babip

With that said, I'd keep running Ian out there.

CyYoung31
07-24-2022, 01:11 PM
If there was someone knocking on the door in AAA, Anderson might be headed to Gwinnett after today. Sadly there's no one.

He’s not headed to AAA. But, there’s Muller.

jsebe10
07-24-2022, 01:11 PM
Contreras is still fading.

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 01:11 PM
If there was someone knocking on the door in AAA, Anderson might be headed to Gwinnett after today. Sadly there's no one.

Got to agree with msstate here... Muller has been exceptional at AAA and has improved so much of what he was struggling with

jsebe10
07-24-2022, 01:12 PM
This is dude is daring them to hit his fastball.

VirginiaBrave
07-24-2022, 01:13 PM
Looks like the Sunday afternoon mail-in is in full effect.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 01:14 PM
After the braves win the first 2 games of a series, snit needs to start resting starters in game 3. We suck anyway

VirginiaBrave
07-24-2022, 01:16 PM
Have we won on a Sunday since the 14 gamer ended?

drewdat
07-24-2022, 01:17 PM
Bryse Wilson for Ian Anderson, who says no

Ozzie Swanson
07-24-2022, 01:18 PM
I don't really know what else muller could do to earn a shot...

11.2 k9, 2.5 bb9
2.96 era
3.35 FIP
.308 babip

With that said, I'd keep running Ian out there.

I'd imagine they're trying to give Muller the full year in AAA like they did with Wright last year. Just let him pitch and have success and find some consistency.

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 01:19 PM
Bryse Wilson for Ian Anderson, who says no

Not sure you've looked at Bryse's numbers this year...

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 01:20 PM
I'd imagine they're trying to give Muller the full year in AAA like they did with Wright last year. Just let him pitch and have success and find some consistency.

That's exactly what they are doing, but if they need a pitcher... there's not much other choice outside of a trade

CyYoung31
07-24-2022, 01:27 PM
Reid Detmers
Rei Detmer
Re Detme
R Det
Ro Detw
Ros Detwil
Ross Detwiler

msstate7
07-24-2022, 01:32 PM
Great AB even with k

CyYoung31
07-24-2022, 01:33 PM
Great AB even with k

It’s so dumb that Snitker never plays his bench,

msstate7
07-24-2022, 01:33 PM
Here comes a 121 mph ground ball

striker42
07-24-2022, 01:35 PM
Acuna should have walked on 4 pitches. Strike 1 was well off the plate.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 01:36 PM
Gotta give it to snit to realize that Acuna was the perfect old school lead off. Good OBP, speed, and no power

jsebe10
07-24-2022, 01:37 PM
You ever come across that dude one time that you shouldn’t have fckd with? Detmers is that dude for the Braves.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 01:38 PM
Ohtani jumping like that on close pitches is annoying.

WaitingFor2017
07-24-2022, 01:41 PM
Third time through the order.....

But you may as well just let Ian just eat this outing as much as he can.

striker42
07-24-2022, 01:41 PM
Snitker pull Anderson 3 innings and two batters too late.

CrimsonCowboy
07-24-2022, 01:44 PM
No way to sugar coat it. Lousy day for Ian

WaitingFor2017
07-24-2022, 01:45 PM
DOB is on Twitter defending Ian for his 3 prior July starts (2 against Washington of all teams where he couldn't even reach 6 innings in either). Can we get a better beat writer?

jsebe10
07-24-2022, 01:45 PM
The problem with Ian is when he’s not on the game normally is over because of one inning. Like today…they can’t keep running him out there for a good chance at an L every 5th day.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 01:46 PM
Acuna just isn't very good right now

jsebe10
07-24-2022, 01:47 PM
And like clockwork the most selfish MFer on our team gifts them another run

CrimsonCowboy
07-24-2022, 01:48 PM
You have to think this outing today will put enough in the mind of AA to look at the starting rotation before the August 2 trade deadline. Will he be aggressive enough to get Castillo from Cincinnati.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 01:48 PM
DOB is on Twitter defending Ian for his 3 prior July starts (2 against Washington of all teams where he couldn't even reach 6 innings in either). Can we get a better beat writer?

I don't want him pitching the 6th. I want 5 good innings from him

jsebe10
07-24-2022, 01:50 PM
You have to think this outing today will put enough in the mind of AA to look at the starting rotation before the August 2 trade deadline. Will he be aggressive enough to get Castillo from Cincinnati.

Acquiring Castillo would help us leave this division in the dust…we don’t have the equity to obtain him unfortunately

atl717
07-24-2022, 01:51 PM
There’s no reason to think Muller isn’t better than Ian right now. Ian wouldn’t put up those numbers in AAA right now with his diminished stuff.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 01:51 PM
If Ian being replaced by muller is even being considered, this would be a good time. Muller would get his first start back vs Arizona at home next weekend

striker42
07-24-2022, 01:52 PM
I wonder if Anderson would do better in the pen. Maybe his two pitch mix would work better out of the pen.

jsebe10
07-24-2022, 01:52 PM
I know This game is over but fckn Acuna has to know better. He’s a veteran and that is was the stupidest fckn play of the game. That’s a mistake that you expect Harris not a veteran like Acuna.

thewupk
07-24-2022, 01:53 PM
Looks like Anderson sucks again

CrimsonCowboy
07-24-2022, 01:56 PM
Acquiring Castillo would help us leave this division in the dust…we don’t have the equity to obtain him unfortunately

Having the ability to get him is the question, you’re right. The bad thing is that there is not much in the way of quality starting pitchers available it appears to me. I really don’t want Quintana from the Pirates. One of the few possibilities that pops into my mind maybe is Nathan Evoaldi if Boston decides to sell

msstate7
07-24-2022, 02:00 PM
He really crying about not getting that pitch?

msstate7
07-24-2022, 02:05 PM
That was an Acuna-like ground ball

Nerfherders
07-24-2022, 02:05 PM
Last game-itis strikes again. 7 out of our last 8 series. Fortunately in 6 of those we won the first 2 and/or 3.

VirginiaBrave
07-24-2022, 02:06 PM
I know This game is over but fckn Acuna has to know better. He’s a veteran and that is was the stupidest fckn play of the game. That’s a mistake that you expect Harris not a veteran like Acuna.

I'm not playin' dead serious. The dude is seriously overrated.

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 02:08 PM
Having the ability to get him is the question, you’re right. The bad thing is that there is not much in the way of quality starting pitchers available it appears to me. I really don’t want Quintana from the Pirates. One of the few possibilities that pops into my mind maybe is Nathan Evoaldi if Boston decides to sell

Syndergaard or Mahle

msstate7
07-24-2022, 02:18 PM
Harris hit that well

msstate7
07-24-2022, 02:19 PM
This ump is giving him a ton of bad calls

msstate7
07-24-2022, 02:20 PM
At least it was In the air

msstate7
07-24-2022, 02:21 PM
Just pull every starter you can. This is not gonna turn around

msstate7
07-24-2022, 02:29 PM
Ok, so maybe stephens should get a start. His numbers are great

mfree80
07-24-2022, 02:42 PM
EV 4?

jpx7
07-24-2022, 03:18 PM
Might be time to hit Anderson with an IL stint.

jpx7
07-24-2022, 03:19 PM
I'm not playin' dead serious. The dude is seriously overrated.

lol

msstate7
07-24-2022, 03:20 PM
lol

I disagree with him, but you picked a horrible time to post this

jpx7
07-24-2022, 03:22 PM
I disagree with him, but you picked a horrible time to post this

Not really. I just don’t overreact to small samples, especially coming off a catastrophic injury / lengthy rehab.

thewupk
07-24-2022, 03:23 PM
Braves struggling to sweep teams lately.

TURBO
07-24-2022, 03:23 PM
Following gamday. How did Stassi triple?

msstate7
07-24-2022, 03:23 PM
Not really. I just don’t overreact to small samples, especially coming off a catastrophic injury / lengthy rehab.

I'm interested in how that misplay is bc of his injury

bravesnumberone
07-24-2022, 03:24 PM
Disappointing game today when we had a chance to potentially move into first place. Almost all young pitchers go through struggles, but Ian is not helping the team right now.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 03:24 PM
Following gamday. How did Stassi triple?

Acuna jogged after the ball. The ball hit about his waist's height off wall. Shoulda been an easy catch

anthmilliu
07-24-2022, 03:25 PM
I'm not playin' dead serious. The dude is seriously overrated.

Lol what? He's having a down year so far but he has a better career ops than your precious Freddie and isn't even close to his prime yet. He had just a smidge under 1000 ops seasons his 22 and 23 year old seasons. That's what's known as elite in case you were confused.

jpx7
07-24-2022, 03:25 PM
I'm interested in how that misplay is bc of his injury

He’s been less sharp in the field overall this season, which I think is undoubtedly rust-based.

jpx7
07-24-2022, 03:28 PM
Disappointing game today when we had a chance to potentially move into first place. Almost all young pitchers go through struggles, but Ian is not helping the team right now.

We’ve worried about his pitch mix since he was a prospect, in part because the balance to keep his arsenal effective was so delicate. I wonder what the team’s plan is to fix this situation, now that it looks like his stuff has backed up a bit and disrupted that delicate balance. As it stands, he’s not even effective the first time through an order.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 03:33 PM
Ozuna, ozuna... you've missed 2 hittable pitches. Come on mane

msstate7
07-24-2022, 03:33 PM
That was a pathetic AB

msstate7
07-24-2022, 03:36 PM
That was a pathetic AB

And another

Enscheff
07-24-2022, 03:36 PM
As I explained when Anderson first came up, he has #3/#4 stuff that will play up or down based on his command. Right now, for whatever reason, his command is bad and his stuff is playing down. Hopefully they can sort it out.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 03:43 PM
Pen was outstanding today.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 03:50 PM
Guess we gonna get trout for LF

msstate7
07-24-2022, 03:51 PM
Acuna got last 2 hits on a line... keep that ball up, Acuna

CrimsonCowboy
07-24-2022, 03:54 PM
Go get the Phillies

jsebe10
07-24-2022, 03:56 PM
Acuna got last 2 hits on a line... keep that ball up, Acuna

You’ll be grilling his ass tomorrow night lol.

He had an extended break with that play he took a break on. Making a rookie mistake trying to throw someone out at 3B and airmailing it…Acuna really needs to decide which kind of player he wants to be…In case he didn’t realize last season that any team can win without their superstar all star.

chop2chip
07-24-2022, 04:12 PM
Not really. I just don’t overreact to small samples, especially coming off a catastrophic injury / lengthy rehab.

Would love to read his takes last July when Acuna was well on his way to an MVP.

UNCBlue012
07-24-2022, 04:27 PM
Duvy to undergo surgery. Possibly season-ending

UNCBlue012
07-24-2022, 04:30 PM
Snit confirms Duvy is done for the season

bravesnumberone
07-24-2022, 04:32 PM
That changes things a bit.

CrimsonCowboy
07-24-2022, 04:34 PM
Right handed bat now goes up in priority for the deadline. Hate that for Adam

thethe
07-24-2022, 04:34 PM
We’ve got to try Contreras in LF a little before the deadline.

chop2chip
07-24-2022, 04:41 PM
Right handed bat now goes up in priority for the deadline. Hate that for Adam

One at least capable of faking CF too.

Laureano type would be a good candidate

Garmel
07-24-2022, 04:42 PM
One at least capable of faking CF too.

Laureano type would be a good candidate

Benintendi and Happ can play CF in a pinch too. Benintendi is LH batter and doesn't hit lefties well though.

CrimsonCowboy
07-24-2022, 04:43 PM
One at least capable of faking CF too.

Laureano type would be a good candidate

He’s a good candidate. I known a lot don’t like him, but this makes the chances of Whit Merrifield go up a bit. Another guy maybe could be Trey Mancini, though it depends on how the Orioles see themselves after their recent hot streak.

CrimsonCowboy
07-24-2022, 04:45 PM
Duvall’s injury:
1551320956005715974

AJonesATL
07-24-2022, 04:46 PM
Losing Duvall hurts. I may take some heat for this but there is a world where this at least sparks us to trade for a more consistent bat whereas he’d been having an overall weak year despite recent uptick.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 04:49 PM
Any chance the Red Sox would sell Martinez? His contract is up this season.

CrimsonCowboy
07-24-2022, 04:51 PM
Any chance the Red Sox would sell Martinez? His contract is up this season.

There are rumors that he could be one of a few the Red Sox could sell off. But, his defense is a question.

bravesnumberone
07-24-2022, 04:51 PM
In the meantime, until a trade is made, I’d call up a third catcher and have Contreras in the lineup pretty regularly.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 04:53 PM
There are rumors that he could be one of a few the Red Sox could sell off. But, his defense is a question.

I could live with some bad defense for his bat.

jpx7
07-24-2022, 04:54 PM
Would still love to see Ketel Marte on the team. Would give the team some insurance at 2B, too.

msstate7
07-24-2022, 05:18 PM
Yates...
1.0 ip 0 h 0 er 0 bb 2 k

zbhargrove
07-24-2022, 05:22 PM
There are rumors that he could be one of a few the Red Sox could sell off. But, his defense is a question.

The only rumors were from a troll Twitter account

Hudson2
07-24-2022, 05:27 PM
Duval out for the season means we need a RHH with pop. Drury?

Slippyjms
07-25-2022, 12:10 AM
22-14

bravesfanMatt
07-25-2022, 07:46 AM
22-14

I don't think you need to start day games after a night game. just too much.

Hulavol
07-25-2022, 08:38 AM
I don't think you need to start day games after a night game. just too much.
We are going to need to limit Slippy’s innings for the stretch run…. After his abysmal start related to the short spring training, he’s been shouldering a heavy load. We can’t have him tiring come September

zbhargrove
07-25-2022, 10:41 AM
Would still love to see Ketel Marte on the team. Would give the team some insurance at 2B, too.

Give me Ketel Marte any day of the week. I think he's the only one I'd prefer more than Happ. How expensive would he be under control through 2027 (2028 club option)?