The Paul Pelosi Attacker

[nsacpi]

Wouldn't surprise me if this dude is antifa or failing that was plied with booze, sex and drugs by the FBI to do the dirty deed. Has the FBI's fingerprints all over it. Especially the hammer, which I believe is a special-issue FBI hammer.

[sturg33]

Could be.

I'm leaning more towards the Rand Paul, Brett Kavanaugh, Lee Zeldin, Steve Scalise motivations though

Weird how pelosis security was napping

[nsacpi]

Weird how pelosis security was napping

for sure...definitely a setup

[sturg33]

for sure...definitely a setup

Whatever the reason she needs to fire them. From what I can tell she has private and public security for her home 24/6

[chop2chip]

Interested to see how this thread evolves when it turns out it’s just a good ol’ fashion B&E in crime riddled SF.

[sturg33]

Interested to see how this thread evolves when it turns out it’s just a good ol’ fashion B&E in crime riddled SF.

Nah SF is the safest place on earth. I'm told Alaska is more dangerous

[nsacpi]

Interested to see how this thread evolves when it turns out it’s just a good ol’ fashion B&E in crime riddled SF.

i dunno...the hammer with the FBI logo suggests deep state lies behind it

unless they left some behind at Huey Newton's old house...in which case it could be antifa

[Tapate50]

Hey Paul,

Remember all those insider tips and the DUI we made go away? yeah its time to take a beatin' right before the mid terms.

[nsacpi]

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sounds like another case of the FBI radicalizing and weaponizing a feeble-minded loser for its own nefarious deep state purposes

[sturg33]

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sounds like another case of the FBI radicalizing and weaponizing a feeble-minded loser for its own nefarious deep state purposes

That's not what the police are saying

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2:27 am for a male intruder that apparently was not stopped by any security

[sturg33]

By the way did I miss your thread on the Zeldin stabbing?

[nsacpi]

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I guess Paul felt he owed it to Nancy to take one for the team.

[nsacpi]

By the way did I miss your thread on the Zeldin stabbing?

i try to stay in my lane and leave the important stuff to you

[sturg33]

i try to stay in my lane and leave the important stuff to you

Ah, of course

[nsacpi]

From what I can tell she has private and public security for her home 24/6

I think you've nailed it there. The 7 is the day security is sent away to allow these sorts of false flag operations to be carried out.

[sturg33]

I think you've nailed it there. The 7 is the day security is sent away to allow these sorts of false flag operations to be carried out.

Oh you got me bro

Starting to wonder if Paul gay hooker and him had a bit of a disagreement

[nsacpi]

The 7 could alternatively be the day scheduled for Paul's weekly gay orgy. There are many possibilities.

[Tapate50]

Yeah how weaknesses of an attacker do you have to be to get dis hammered by an 82 year old man

[Krgrecw]

Gay lover? Has to be. Only scenario that makes sense

[cajunrevenge]

Good thing the FBI didnt try to stop it ahead of time. Clearly learned from the Whitmer case.

[msstate7]

Gay lover? Has to be. Only scenario that makes sense

Well if it is, it will never see the light of day. The attacker will hang himself before that comes out

[sturg33]

methinks this story isn't going to turn out how the left was hoping it would

[nsacpi]

Nancy's boy toy?

[nsacpi]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-10-28/pelosi-attack-suspect-david-depape-shared-conspiracy-theories

Interesting dude.

[thewupk]

Clearly we need to ban hammers and sue home depot for selling them.

[Garmel]

This case is freaking weird.

[sturg33]

This case is freaking weird.

It's funny how nobody besides the seals believes the narrative anymore.

Your have to be a fool. And they are

[thethe]

One things for sure. It’s going to be the exact opposite of what the lecturer thought this was at the onset of his endless mockery posts.

[cajunrevenge]

methinks this story isn't going to turn out how the left was hoping it would


Can we go like 20 seconds without politicizing an attempted murder.

[cajunrevenge]

One things for sure. It’s going to be the exact opposite of what the lecturer thought this was at the onset of his endless mockery posts.


Am I the only one who heard this story and first thought wasnt about what side is to blame?

[thethe]

Am I the only one who heard this story and first thought wasnt about what side is to blame?

Is that what you gathered from my post criticizing the lecturer?

[nsacpi]

My friends on the right appear to be coalescing around the Paul Pelosi gay lover narrative.

Juicy if true.

Personally I would still go with the antifa and/or deep state tool of the FBI narratives.

Of course all of the above is always a solid option.

[msstate7]

The only reason I have any doubt to what's being told us is how a guy gets into the pelosi home. Perhaps I'm wrong in assuming they have too notch security

[Tapate50]

The only reason I have any doubt to what's being told us is how a guy gets into the pelosi home. Perhaps I'm wrong in assuming they have too notch security

I mean it’s not unthinkable but being “surprised” in your own home and then an 80 yo man taking a hammer from an intruder is a long shot at best

[thethe]

I mean it’s not unthinkable but being “surprised” in your own home and then an 80 yo man taking a hammer from an intruder is a long shot at best

This is MAGA country!

[sturg33]

Lol

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[thethe]

When does Biden apologize for blaming republicans?

[sturg33]

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[thethe]

It’s so ****ing pathetic how desperate the left is right now.

They destroyed the world and the voters know it.

[cajunrevenge]

Is that what you gathered from my post criticizing the lecturer?


Yeah, what I saw was you preparing to go full conspiracy like you do with everything. You instantly knew this was going to be a rightwing nutjob.

[sturg33]

...wut?

[cajunrevenge]

....who?

[sturg33]

She's talking to her glasses of water.

Her supporters are too stupid to understand.

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[thethe]

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Will there be any repercussions for prominent democrats who claimed this was MAGA or in general Republicans?

We have to absolutely destroy the Democrat party. They are truly evil.

[ESP47]

What are the odds that the cops stepped into the room at the exact same moment that the hammer was taken from Pelosi and used on him? I mean out of all the time that elapsed in the whole ordeal, you're telling me that the cops entered the room at the exact moment in time when that exchange happened? The odds of that happening are astronomically low.

Billionaire elites do not just hang out with the dregs of society as friends but they will bang them behind closed doors.

There is police audio online of the whole "I don't know who he is but his name is David and he is a friend". That came from the dispatch to police audio of the dispatcher relaying the information that he had. That wasn't audio from Paul Pelosi's 911 call. The sentence itself makes no sense. Either the information got lost in translation from the 911 dispatcher to the police dispatcher or Pelosi made the mistake of spouting off some truth as he was attempting to lie.

I find it almost impossible to believe that this was the case of a crazy man breaking and entering. You're telling me a billionaire has no private security at home and no electronic security system for his house? Difficult to fathom that there would be zero security set up at the mansion of one of the most hated politicians in America. This has gay lover gone wrong spun into political hoax written all over it.

[mqt]

I don’t want to speculate much, but isn’t it entirely possible that the crazy man was threatening Pelosi for a while and that perhaps the caller said he’s a friend to try to calm him down?

[Krgrecw]

I don’t want to speculate much, but isn’t it entirely possible that the crazy man was threatening Pelosi for a while and that perhaps the caller said he’s a friend to try to calm him down?

So the caller broke into his house too?

Are you discounting the whole ‘there’s some weird homo stuff going on’ entirely?

[Tapate50]

I’m sure the Pelosi family is super glad they don’t live in Alaska right now

[Garmel]

I’m sure the Pelosi family is super glad they don’t live in Alaska right now

Those moose hunters are dangerous, man. lol

[mqt]

So the caller broke into his house too?

Are you discounting the whole ‘there’s some weird homo stuff going on’ entirely?

The caller meaning Paul Pelosi? No, I don’t think he had to break in.

Yes, unless something way more compelling is discovered.

[sturg33]

The caller meaning Paul Pelosi? No, I don’t think he had to break in.

Yes, unless something way more compelling is discovered.

Do you believe they did not have any security at their house?

[mqt]

Do you believe they did not have any security at their house?

I don’t ****ing know, man. Maybe let the police sort that **** out. But if the only basis for believing this is a gay lover is that he wasn’t stopped by security measures, then perhaps a few ****ing logical steps have been missed in the argument.

Here’s a useful guide for what is known so far and what is being reported by the Right:

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[sturg33]

Yeah I read that thread earlier today.

The pelosis can simply release the security cam footage showing the forced entry.

I suspect they won't.

And I suspect you will believe whatever they tell you to believe.

But you should wonder why the a near billionaire who is speaker of the house does not have security at their home...

[mqt]

Yeah I read that thread earlier today.

The pelosis can simply release the security cam footage showing the forced entry.

I suspect they won't.

And I suspect you will believe whatever they tell you to believe.

But you should wonder why the a near billionaire who is speaker of the house does not have security at their home...

Sure, it’s a fair wonder. Still, Occam’s Razor and all that. Seems a bit crazy to actively assume that it’s a conspiracy with no actual evidence.

[sturg33]

Sure, it’s a fair wonder. Still, Occam’s Razor and all that. Seems a bit crazy to actively assume that it’s a conspiracy with no actual evidence.

Where is the evidence that there was a break in?

[Krgrecw]

Where is the evidence that there was a break in?


There’s more inconsistencies in this case than there was In the trump Russia hoax, but they didn’t need evidence to believe in that

[sturg33]

Sure, it’s a fair wonder. Still, Occam’s Razor and all that. Seems a bit crazy to actively assume that it’s a conspiracy with no actual evidence.

Occam's razor said to believe Jussie Smollett and the native American dude at Covington and the Russia collusion and the COVID wet market

In reality is the simplest explanation is it is highly unlikely the Uber rich third in line for the president's house is not unguarded...

[cajunrevenge]

Was he charged with breaking and entering?

[msstate7]

I saw a picture of the broken door glass. If the door didn't have insulated glass, it was broken from the inside.

[thethe]

It’s always the same idiots that believe he sold narrative. Then they quietly ignore it when the truth comes out. It’s so ****ing pathetic.

[cajunrevenge]

I like how "the right" spends so much effort trying to pick apart stories like this but believe any ridiculous election conspiracy theory without using the slightest bit of logic.

[nsacpi]

My friends on the right appear to be coalescing around the Paul Pelosi gay lover narrative.

Juicy if true.

Personally I would still go with the antifa and/or deep state tool of the FBI narratives.

Of course all of the above is always a solid option.

A reminder to my conspiracy luvin friends: So What is always an option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNTltOGh5c

[mqt]

It’s always the same idiots that believe he sold narrative. Then they quietly ignore it when the truth comes out. It’s so ****ing pathetic.

This, but not for the people you think.

[nsacpi]

This, but not for the people you think.

Las Vegas shooter and his Muslim gf say hello.

[thethe]

Las Vegas shooter and his Muslim gf say hello.

Anytime you let me know the truth of that event I’m all ears.

[thethe]

This, but not for the people you think.

Educate me on what your side has been right on

[sturg33]

Anytime you let me know the truth of that event I’m all ears.

The fbi is still working on it

[nsacpi]

Oh lest we forget. Seth Rich, pizzagate, the Kraken, etc, etc.

Reminder: So What is always an option.

[sturg33]

This, but not for the people you think.

Can you remind me where you landed on Smollet, Covington, and russia Collusion? We will start with those three

I already know the buffoon fell for all three but then again he is wrong about literally everything

[sturg33]

Can you remind me where you landed on Smollet, Covington, and russia Collusion? We will start with those three

I already know the buffoon fell for all three but then again he is wrong about literally everything

Once we cover those three, we can shift to bubba Wallace, Russian bounties, and COVID lab leak

[sturg33]

Once we cover those three, we can shift to bubba Wallace, Russian bounties, and COVID lab leak

After that we will check in on hunter Biden laptop being Russian disinfo, and vaccines stop COVID infection

[Tapate50]

lol

[Garmel]

Las Vegas shooter and his Muslim gf say hello.

ISIS did claim responsibility for the shooting. Who knows what the truth is there but with your previous track record (especially in regards to Covid and Russian Collusion) you might want to sit this one out, chief.

[mqt]

Can you remind me where you landed on Smollet, Covington, and russia Collusion? We will start with those three

I already know the buffoon fell for all three but then again he is wrong about literally everything

It’s immediately telling that you keep going back to the same small handful of events. In general, when a dude’s head is smashed in with a hammer, it’s not because the person wanted to gain something politically. The counterpoint to Smollett is every other crime that’s been committed in the past ~4 years where the victim didn’t pay his attackers. I’m all for letting all the facts come out, and having no tolerance if it’s a hoax, but that’s a far cry from assuming it is a hoax based on now apparently incorrect reporting like there being a different person who called the police or them being in their underwear.

What does get frustrating is that Smollett and Covington get brought up every single time a conspiracy forms, but once a story is validated, it’s just silently forgotten.

To answer your questions;

1) I recall out interaction on Smollett, and reading back over it last time, I definitely was making some tongue-in-cheek comments on him being vindicated, but I didn’t really question it until the facts came out.

2) I think I fell for the Covington kids thing, but don’t recall being super invested in it.

3) I’ve always been agnostic about Russia and Trump. I think the Trump Campaign was happy to take anything they could from any source to win the election, but I’ve long held that I don’t find it to be that scandalous. I think Trump and his team lied repeatedly about their connections, but just don’t think it was as out of the ordinary as people claimed.

[thethe]

Oh lest we forget. Seth Rich, pizzagate, the Kraken, etc, etc.

Reminder: So What is always an option.

Seth rich is going to be the trigger that gets you to stop posting for good. I’m calling it now.

[nsacpi]

Seth rich is going to be the trigger that gets you to stop posting for good. I’m calling it now.

The blessed day she comes

[thethe]

Imagine thinking that there is an actual truth to the Vegas shooting.

What kind of an idiot do you have to be to think that?

[nsacpi]

Has sharia arrived in queens?

[thethe]

Has sharia arrived in queens?

Thankfully not. But as long as the good Muslims push back against Marxism I’m cool with them.

[sturg33]

It’s immediately telling that you keep going back to the same small handful of events. In general, when a dude’s head is smashed in with a hammer, it’s not because the person wanted to gain something politically. The counterpoint to Smollett is every other crime that’s been committed in the past ~4 years where the victim didn’t pay his attackers. I’m all for letting all the facts come out, and having no tolerance if it’s a hoax, but that’s a far cry from assuming it is a hoax based on now apparently incorrect reporting like there being a different person who called the police or them being in their underwear.

What does get frustrating is that Smollett and Covington get brought up every single time a conspiracy forms, but once a story is validated, it’s just silently forgotten.

To answer your questions;

1) I recall out interaction on Smollett, and reading back over it last time, I definitely was making some tongue-in-cheek comments on him being vindicated, but I didn’t really question it until the facts came out.

2) I think I fell for the Covington kids thing, but don’t recall being super invested in it.

3) I’ve always been agnostic about Russia and Trump. I think the Trump Campaign was happy to take anything they could from any source to win the election, but I’ve long held that I don’t find it to be that scandalous. I think Trump and his team lied repeatedly about their connections, but just don’t think it was as out of the ordinary as people claimed.

Ahh thank you.

Now I added a few more to the list

[nsacpi]

Thankfully not. But as long as the good Muslims push back against Marxism I’m cool with them.

can we have a repost of the car with the "Sharia Coming to Queens" billboard

For old times sake

Surely it ranks among your all-time classics

[thethe]

can we have a repost of the car with the "Sharia Coming to Queens" billboard

For old times sake

Surely it ranks among your all-time classics

Never ending global struggle.

I know you’re against stats now but go look at how freedoms devolve in areas that reach 10% or more Muslims. You won’t care of course but keep going on these tangents because you’ve embarrassed yourself endlessly.

[sturg33]

I'm looking forward to the Pelosi's releasing the security footage of this break in. Would squash a lot of speculation in an instant

[sturg33]

Never ending global struggle.

I know you’re against stats now but go look at how freedoms devolve in areas that reach 10% or more Muslims. You won’t care of course but keep going on these tangents because you’ve embarrassed yourself endlessly.

leftists are very pro womxn, pro lgbtqiaxhsdfka+, and pro muslim!

[Garmel]

Never ending global struggle.

I know you’re against stats now but go look at how freedoms devolve in areas that reach 10% or more Muslims. You won’t care of course but keep going on these tangents because you’ve embarrassed yourself endlessly.

He talks a lot of smack for someone who has proven himself to be an uninformed idiot.

[sturg33]

ahh, memories

a reminder that this happened, and the GOP governor candidate in NY was stabbed... y'all may have forgotten about it (seriously). crimes occurred in SF, NY, and DC... but those places are really safe

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[Garmel]

ahh, memories

a reminder that this happened, and the GOP governor candidate in NY was stabbed... y'all may have forgotten about it (seriously). crimes occurred in SF, NY, and DC... but those places are really safe

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So much safer than Alaska.

[thethe]

The left is a bunch of jokers.

That’s why they are about to have a massive defeat.

[sturg33]

he's totally a right wing nut guys... don't use your brains... listen to what they told us!!

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[mqt]

he's totally a right wing nut guys... don't use your brains... listen to what they told us!!

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A crazy guy who shows up naked to protests would likely be semi-memorable to local politicians, would he not?

[sturg33]

A crazy guy who shows up naked to protests would likely be semi-memorable to local politicians, would he not?

Sure. But trying to jam this narrative that he's a trumper is what makes the story so suspicious.

Dude is a liberal freak. It would not surprise me at all if that wasn't the first time he was visiting Paul

But you are free to believe that he is a ninja who was able to bypass security for one of the most powerful people in the world

[thethe]

Always notice who eats up the original narrative spewed but pretends to be even handed in the future.

[msstate7]

Were the police first notified by the call from pelosi or during the break in? I work in a low-crime area, but I have to disable our alarm every morning when I get here. If I don't, the cops are notified. I would think the pelosi house has at least that level of security

[sturg33]

Once we cover those three, we can shift to bubba Wallace, Russian bounties, and COVID lab leak

bumping for the seals

[thethe]

Were the police first notified by the call from pelosi or during the break in? I work in a low-crime area, but I have to disable our alarm every morning when I get here. If I don't, the cops are notified. I would think the pelosi house has at least that level of security

They won’t release any footage despite having surveillance. What else do people need to know?

[mqt]

Sure. But trying to jam this narrative that he's a trumper is what makes the story so suspicious.

Dude is a liberal freak. It would not surprise me at all if that wasn't the first time he was visiting Paul

But you are free to believe that he is a ninja who was able to bypass security for one of the most powerful people in the world

From that article in the tweet:


DePape is a fringe conspiracy theorist. “We know that this person has a long history of fringe conspiracy theory views,” Wiener said.

A blog titled “God Is Loving” was written by an author named David DePape. The blog focused on “Big Brother” conspiracy theories and censorship. The author rails against an “elite ruling class” of mainstream media and technology companies for censoring people not in power.

In a post written in August, the author writes, “The elites/ruling class never censor themselves. You can still turn on any mainstream news channel to hear day and night the narrative put forth by the people who rule you. The founding father built in protection against censorship coming from the government because they never imagined a day when Tech giants and private industry would be so powerful they could single handedly silence the people.”


Who gets U.S. Secret Service protection?
The blog was removed from WordPress on Friday. It’s unclear why it was removed.

DePape appears to have made racist, and often rambling, posts online, including some that questioned the results of the 2020 election, defended Donald Trump, and echoed QAnon conspiracy theories.

Online posts under DePape’s name repeated false claims about COVID vaccines, questioned whether climate change is real and displayed an illustration of a zombified Hillary Clinton dining on human flesh.

It’s maybe a bit irrational to try to make sense of the politics of actual crazy people.

[sturg33]

Were the police first notified by the call from pelosi or during the break in? I work in a low-crime area, but I have to disable our alarm every morning when I get here. If I don't, the cops are notified. I would think the pelosi house has at least that level of security

nah bro there is apparently no security at the Pelosi house. that's the narrative and we need to believe that no questions asked

[msstate7]

They won’t release any footage despite having surveillance. What else do people need to know?

I do find that odd. I will say though if no one besides "conspiracy theorists" are questioning it, they could argue there's no reason to prove it.

[nsacpi]

Dude is a liberal freak.
Ah a pivot away from the gay lover narrative.

[msstate7]

Ah a pivot away from the gay lover narrative.

"Liberal freaks" can't be gay?

[sturg33]

Ah a pivot away from the gay lover narrative.

They tend to go hand in hand

[thethe]

Ah a pivot away from the gay lover narrative.

Think we need Kamala to talk about venn diagrams for this one.

[nsacpi]

The path between far left and far -right is a well trod one. DePape wouldnt be the first to go from liberal freak to Q luvin Big Lie luvin anti semite.

[nsacpi]

They tend to go hand in handall of the above is always an option

[mqt]

I like this idea that it’s super concerning and telling that the Uber-elite Pelosi didn’t have a SWAT team on site to stop this man, but that it simultaneously wouldn’t be even weirder for Pelosi to be hanging out with random poor crazies.

[sturg33]

I like this idea that it’s super concerning and telling that the Uber-elite Pelosi didn’t have a SWAT team on site to stop this man, but that it simultaneously wouldn’t be even weirder for Pelosi to be hanging out with random poor crazies.

do you believe the Pelosi's do not have any security at their home? Or do you believe this person was able to get past them with no notice until Paul called the police? I assume your position requires you to believe one of these two options

[nsacpi]

The anti vaxxer part has incarnations both in the loony left and loony right. Northern Cal has a long and not so distinguished left wing anti vaxxer movement.

[mqt]

do you believe the Pelosi's do not have any security at their home? Or do you believe this person was able to get past them with no notice until Paul called the police? I assume your position requires you to believe one of these two options

I suppose we’ll eventually find out together what happened. I just don’t see how the man not being stopped by a security measure is inherently more believable than the **** the Right has thrown at the wall so far during the information vacuum.

[sturg33]

I suppose we’ll eventually find out together what happened. I just don’t see how the man not being stopped by a security measure is inherently more believable than the **** the Right has thrown at the wall so far during the information vacuum.

Your position and the narratives official position is that he was not stopped by security. So that required the belief that they do not have security or that he was able to bypass it completely up until police showed up.

Which of those two options do you believe is true?

[mqt]

Your position and the narratives official position is that he was not stopped by security. So that required the belief that they do not have security or that he was able to bypass it completely up until police showed up.

Which of those two options do you believe is true?

I don’t have enough knowledge of the Pelosi family security or neighborhood to offer a real answer and neither do you. The difference is that you’re taking that same lack of knowledge and running with it to promote a fringe conspiracy that has plenty of its own inconsistencies that you have to look past.

[sturg33]

I don’t have enough knowledge of the Pelosi family security or neighborhood to offer a real answer and neither do you. The difference is that you’re taking that same lack of knowledge and running with it to promote a fringe conspiracy that has plenty of its own inconsistencies that you have to look past.

I am willing to go on record and assume that the Pelosi's have a robust security system for their home

I would be shocked if I am wrong... and I would fear for their safety if they do not

[nsacpi]

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[thethe]

How is it possible that people don’t think wealth people lack security systems at their home?

[sturg33]

How is it possible that people don’t think wealth people lack security systems at their home?

I mean every single member of Congress was granted $10k for home security a few months ago

[nsacpi]

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[chop2chip]

From that article in the tweet:



It’s maybe a bit irrational to try to make sense of the politics of actual crazy people.

I think anyone that’s trying to project any type of greater meaning to the actions of someone who clearly needs medication and hospitalization will be sorely disappointed.

The gay lover story to me is a reach. But the Pelosi family clearly needs to immediately fire their entire security operation.

[thethe]

As far out as gay lover is it’s infinitely more likely than MAGA

[mqt]

I think anyone that’s trying to project any type of greater meaning to the actions of someone who clearly needs medication and hospitalization will be sorely disappointed.

The gay lover story to me is a reach. But the Pelosi family clearly needs to immediately fire their entire security operation.

Agreed, and that goes for the left as well. There’s a clear, very slimy focus from the Left to pin this directly on Republican lawmakers and that’s misguided. While I do think Trump and some of his supporters in public office have done a lot to escalate the divide in this nation, so has the Left. Many crazy people are certainly radicalized by some of this rhetoric, but it’s really just the flavor of the week. If not Nancy Pelosi, he could have been radicalized to violently attack any number of people from any community, be it for political reasons, religion, sports, etc.

[chop2chip]

Agreed, and that goes for the left as well. There’s a clear, very slimy focus from the Left to pin this directly on Republican lawmakers and that’s misguided. While I do think Trump and some of his supporters in public office have done a lot to escalate the divide in this nation, so has the Left. Many crazy people are certainly radicalized by some of this rhetoric, but it’s really just the flavor of the week. If not Nancy Pelosi, he could have been radicalized to violently attack any number of people from any community, be it for political reasons, religion, sports, etc.

Totally agree.

[mqt]

As far out as gay lover is it’s infinitely more likely than MAGA

I’d love to hear the explanation for why it’s *more* probable that a known lunatic was in an affair with Paul Pelosi and somebody created a fake blog for him using right-wing talking points than that this deeply troubled person actually wanted to hurt Nancy Pelosi. He’s not working *for* MAGA politicians to do this, but it’s certainly not unreasonable to guess he had a warped worldview that would lead him to commit this violence.

[sturg33]

Could be.

I'm leaning more towards the Rand Paul, Brett Kavanaugh, Lee Zeldin, Steve Scalise motivations though

Weird how pelosis security was napping

Bump from page 1

[mqt]

Bump from page 1

This actually raises a question of why you would assume it’s fishy due to inadequate security, but agree it’s reasonable that a guy could get a gun into a private congressional practice and shoot a Republican lawmaker despite there being 3 police officers on-site.

[sturg33]

This actually raises a question of why you would assume it’s fishy due to inadequate security, but agree it’s reasonable that a guy could get a gun into a private congressional practice and shoot a Republican lawmaker despite there being 3 police officers on-site.

I don't recall all the details of that event but I think it's more plausible to open fire in an outdoor event than to get past security at a private residence with zero alarms

but hey... you're not willing to post it, but it's clear from your dancing that you do not believe the Pelosi's have security at their mansion

that's quite the faith in the narrative

[mqt]

I don't recall all the details of that event but I think it's more plausible to open fire in an outdoor event than to get past security at a private residence with zero alarms

but hey... you're not willing to post it, but it's clear from your dancing that you do not believe the Pelosi's have security at their mansion

that's quite the faith in the narrative

No, I just don’t know what the security is and what potential failings there could be.

[thethe]

I’d love to hear the explanation for why it’s *more* probable that a known lunatic was in an affair with Paul Pelosi and somebody created a fake blog for him using right-wing talking points than that this deeply troubled person actually wanted to hurt Nancy Pelosi. He’s not working *for* MAGA politicians to do this, but it’s certainly not unreasonable to guess he had a warped worldview that would lead him to commit this violence.

Because there is 0 chance that a hippy from SF is doing anything in MAGAs name so therefore any other allegation which hasn’t been completely debunked with facts is infinitely more likely.

[mqt]

Because there is 0 chance that a hippy from SF is doing anything in MAGAs name so therefore any other allegation which hasn’t been completely debunked with facts is infinitely more likely.

Again, I don’t think you’re giving enough consideration to how little consistency there is going to be in a troubled person’s mind.

[thethe]

Again, I don’t think you’re giving enough consideration to how little consistency there is going to be in a troubled person’s mind.

Even if it’s him just being a generic crazy then it isn’t in MAGAs name so to lay blame in that direction is false at the onset and everyone knows it.

But t he degradation of SF can be laid at then feet of pelosi so whatever she and democrats can do to move the eye on that is what they are doing. Plenty of idiots that will jump to blame MAGA and that will be their only truth.

[cajunrevenge]

Seth rich is going to be the trigger that gets you to stop posting for good. I’m calling it now.



And people call me a bozo.

[mqt]

Even if it’s him just being a generic crazy then it isn’t in MAGAs name so to lay blame in that direction is false at the onset and everyone knows it.

But t he degradation of SF can be laid at then feet of pelosi so whatever she and democrats can do to move the eye on that is what they are doing. Plenty of idiots that will jump to blame MAGA and that will be their only truth.

Doing it in MAGA’s name and doing it at the request of MAGA are two very different things. I don’t have any problem with stating that nobody asked this lunatic to bash Paul Pelosi’s head in with a hammer. I *do* have a problem with baselessly claiming that this is some sort of false flag or running absolutely ****ing wild with conspiracies.

[thethe]

And people call me a bozo.

Follow the story bozo

[cajunrevenge]

Sorry I dont subscribe to your land of make believe. But please fill me in. I will leave if it comes true. That's how confident I am you are full of ****.

[thethe]

Doing it in MAGA’s name and doing it at the request of MAGA are two very different things. I don’t have any problem with stating that nobody asked this lunatic to bash Paul Pelosi’s head in with a hammer. I *do* have a problem with baselessly claiming that this is some sort of false flag or running absolutely ****ing wild with conspiracies.

A hippy from SF (whose ex now is saying was super liberal) has no affiliation with MAGA and any linking between the two is disgraceful.

[thethe]

Sorry I dont subscribe to your land of make believe.

Would make believe he the feds saying the laptop for rich didn’t exist but now acknowledges it does but wants to hold it for 66 years make believe?

I understand you’re a bootlicker now but at this point if a reasonable person isn’t suspicious then I’m not sure what to say.

[mqt]

A hippy from SF (whose ex now is saying was super liberal) has no affiliation with MAGA and any linking between the two is disgraceful.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/internet-history-of-pelosi-suspect-17545116.php

Sure, why take his own words when you can blindly and confidently state your own perceptions.

[cajunrevenge]

Would make believe he the feds saying the laptop for rich didn’t exist but now acknowledges it does but wants to hold it for 66 years make believe?

I understand you’re a bootlicker now but at this point if a reasonable person isn’t suspicious then I’m not sure what to say.


Maybe you could point me to any case of a private citizen where they released the contents of their laptop to the public.

[thethe]

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/internet-history-of-pelosi-suspect-17545116.php

Sure, why take his own words when you can blindly and confidently state your own perceptions.

We’re these the sites that mysteriously were deleted on Saturday?

[mqt]

We’re these the sites that mysteriously were deleted on Saturday?

Yes, as has happened countless times before when sites realize what they’re hosting.

[sturg33]

Politico: "people are making baseless claims that we reported!"

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[nsacpi]

Again, I don’t think you’re giving enough consideration to how little consistency there is going to be in a troubled person’s mind.

Political fringes on both sides are cesspools filled with troubled people. Some of them dabble in both cesspools. Sometimes simultaneously. Sometimes sequentially.

[mqt]

Politico: "people are making baseless claims that we reported!"

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Okay, **** Politico too, but isn’t the key point here that SF Police have stated there wasn’t a third person, yet it’s still a key point in the conspiracy?

Edited to add: There’s a compelling point made in the comments that it could just be sloppy writing that the police did not know who opened the door of the two men. Not necessarily even a gotcha to Politico.

[nsacpi]

Okay, **** Politico too, but isn’t the key point here that SF Police have stated there wasn’t a third person, yet it’s still a key point in the conspiracy?

SF police are deep state.

Conveniently police also tend not to share evidence (say from security cameras) that might be used at a trial.

Ergo conspiracy.

Rinse.

Repeat.

Etc

Etc

[sturg33]

Okay, **** Politico too, but isn’t the key point here that SF Police have stated there wasn’t a third person, yet it’s still a key point in the conspiracy?

Edited to add: There’s a compelling point made in the comments that it could just be sloppy writing that the police did not know who opened the door of the two men. Not necessarily even a gotcha to Politico.

Who opened the door? Paul or his attacker?

[mqt]

Who opened the door? Paul or his attacker?

I don’t know, you have the same ****ing Google access I do.

[sturg33]

I don’t know, you have the same ****ing Google access I do.

Right are you starting to see why the initial reporting raised a lot of questions?

Paul called the police and described him as his friend.

The police initially said that a third person opened the door for them

They later qualified there was no third person

I'm not familiar with how they got in now. Did they barge in?

If so, how the heck was it originally claimed that they were let in?

If they were let in, and there was no third person, who the heck let them in? Am I supposed to believe Paul opened the door and then walked back to attacker to start getting assaulted?

Why do message board posters have to ask this rather than the media?

[mqt]

Right are you starting to see why the initial reporting raised a lot of questions?

Paul called the police and described him as his friend.

The police initially said that a third person opened the door for them

They later qualified there was no third person

I'm not familiar with how they got in now. Did they barge in?

If so, how the heck was it originally claimed that they were let in?

If they were let in, and there was no third person, who the heck let them in? Am I supposed to believe Paul opened the door and then walked back to attacker to start getting assaulted?

Why do message board posters have to ask this rather than the media?

Media is asking, that’s why it’s ****ing news reporters posting the updates they get from the police department. It’s an active investigation into a crime. Perhaps there are bits on information the police aren’t ready to make public quite yet.

[sturg33]

Media is asking, that’s why it’s ****ing news reporters posting the updates they get from the police department. It’s an active investigation into a crime. Perhaps there are bits on information the police aren’t ready to make public quite yet.

Nothing the police originally said makes sense. And their clarifications raise more questions than answered.

I'm sorry this upsets you but use your ****ing brain for once and stop just slurping whatever narrative is fed to you

[mqt]

Nothing the police originally said makes sense. And their clarifications raise more questions than answered.

I'm sorry this upsets you but use your ****ing brain for once and stop just slurping whatever narrative is fed to you

If using my brain entails just believing whatever bull**** story Dinesh D’Souza and the right wing media bubble **** out, then I think I’ll pass.

[sturg33]

If using my brain entails just believing whatever bull**** story Dinesh D’Souza and the right wing media bubble **** out, then I think I’ll pass.

I don't believe any story. It's all speculation.

What Im convinced did NOT happen was a right wing lunatic circumvented the security of the third most powerful person in the world in an attempt to kill Nancy pelosi, the police keeps telling us conflicting stories of how any why they were able to intervene.

I'm happy to change my mind if the pelosis release the security footage of the break in, or even the police release the body cam footage of the intervention.

I suspect we will never see either and you will accept what you're told

[mqt]

I don't believe any story. It's all speculation.

What Im convinced did NOT happen was a right wing lunatic circumvented the security of the third most powerful person in the world in an attempt to kill Nancy pelosi, the police keeps telling us conflicting stories of how any why they were able to intervene.

I'm happy to change my mind if the pelosis release the security footage of the break in, or even the police release the body cam footage of the intervention.

I suspect we will never see either and you will accept what you're told

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download

Yes, why believe what the lunatic told the police himself?

[sturg33]

"When the door was opened, Pelosi and DEPAPE were both holding a hammer with one hand and DEPAPE had his other hand holding onto Pelosi’s forearm. Pelosi greeted the officers."

who the **** opened the door?

and there were two hammers?

[nsacpi]

Right are you starting to see why the initial reporting raised a lot of questions?

Paul called the police and described him as his friend.

The police initially said that a third person opened the door for them

They later qualified there was no third person

I'm not familiar with how they got in now. Did they barge in?

If so, how the heck was it originally claimed that they were let in?

If they were let in, and there was no third person, who the heck let them in? Am I supposed to believe Paul opened the door and then walked back to attacker to start getting assaulted?

Why do message board posters have to ask this rather than the media?

my deux sous with respect to a couple of these

1) I suspect the caller (Paul Pelosi) told the 911 operator that the home invader claimed to be a friend (of Nancy's). It could use some clarification. But not a whole lot.

2) The initial police report said they encountered an unknown person (not a third person). They have subsequently clarified they only encountered 2 people. So this unknown person (unknown to the officer who wrote the initial report) was either Pelosi or the perp.

3) There are pictures a broken glass door with glass shattered. Seems to have been the point of entry.

I suspect the urban legends will continue to grow and proliferate. This thread will undoubtedly get even juicier than it currently is. So far it has exceeded my expectations!

[sturg33]

my deux sous with respect to a couple of these

1) I suspect the caller (Paul Pelosi) told the 911 operator that the home invader claimed to be a friend (of Nancy's). It could use some clarification. But not a whole lot.

2) The police report said an unknown person opened the door. They have subsequently clarified they only encountered 2 people. So this unknown person (unknown to the officer who wrote the initial report) was either Pelosi or the perp.

3) There are pictures a broken glass door with glass shattered. Seems to have been the point of entry.

I suspect the urban legends will continue to grow and proliferate. This thread will undoubtedly get even juicier than it currently is. So far it has exceeded my expectations!

Did they barge? Or were they let in?

I thought they witnessed the assault? Or has that also been since corrected?

Broken class pic was glass on the outside...

[chop2chip]

It would be quite odd if the broken glass didn’t automatically trigger a 911 call…

That doesn’t automatically mean Pelosi was ramming this guy, but it’s definitely a gap!

[nsacpi]

Did they barge? Or were they let in?

I thought they witnessed the assault? Or has that also been since corrected?

Broken class pic was glass on the outside...

I don't think they have said how they got in.

They did witness the assault and tackled the assailant.

[mqt]

"When the door was opened, Pelosi and DEPAPE were both holding a hammer with one hand and DEPAPE had his other hand holding onto Pelosi’s forearm. Pelosi greeted the officers."

who the **** opened the door?

and there were two hammers?

One hammer, two hands on it.

Pelosi opened the door according to DePape:


DEPAPE stated that they went downstairs to the front door. The police arrived and knocked on the door, and Pelosi ran over and opened it. Pelosi grabbed onto DEPAPE’s hammer, which was in DEPAPE’s hand. At this point in the interview, DEPAPE repeated that DEPAPE did not plan to surrender and that he would go “through” Pelosi.

[nsacpi]

It would be quite odd if the broken glass didn’t automatically trigger a 911 call…

That doesn’t automatically mean Pelosi was ramming this guy, but it’s definitely a gap!

I think this is a reasonable question. I'm curious about whether the security alarm went off. But people do sometimes neglect to set it.

[mqt]

It would be quite odd if the broken glass didn’t automatically trigger a 911 call…

That doesn’t automatically mean Pelosi was ramming this guy, but it’s definitely a gap!

This witness statement seems to suggest it was a pretty quick gap between the initial break-in and police response:


SFPD Officer Colby Wilmes was able to interview a witness, Witness 1, who saw an individual in all black, carrying a large black bag on his back, walking near the Pelosi residence where Witness 1 was parked. Witness 1 was working private security at an address nearby. Witness 1 then heard what sounded like banging on either a door or car and then heard the sirens within a minute or two.

[sturg33]

I don't think they have said how they got in.

They did witness the assault and tackled the assailant.

so Pelosi opened the door while holding a hammer with the Depape, and then once the police were seen Depape started striking Pelosi?

Did Pelosi drag Depape to the door via the hammer? Or did he run to the door, open it, and then run back to depape to continue the fight?

[nsacpi]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-prosecutors-charge-man-accused-of-attacking-paul-pelosi-11667243665?mod=hp_lead_pos11

Federal prosecutors charged David DePape, 42 years old, with assault and attempted kidnapping in connection with the break-in, writing in court documents that the attacker brought with him a roll of tape, white rope, zip ties, two hammers and other items. Mr. DePape told police he was going to hold Mrs. Pelosi hostage and was going to “break her knee caps,” according to court documents. Mrs. Pelosi was in Washington, guarded by a security detail.

“DePape articulated that he viewed Nancy as ‘the leader of the pack’ of lies told by the Democratic Party,” the documents said. He later told police that by “breaking Nancy’s kneecaps, she would then have to be wheeled into Congress, which would show other Members of Congress there were consequences to actions.”

[mqt]

so Pelosi opened the door while holding a hammer with the Depape, and then once the police were seen Depape started striking Pelosi?

Did Pelosi drag Depape to the door via the hammer? Or did he run to the door, open it, and then run back to depape to continue the fight?

It sounds like Pelosi was able to convince DePape to come to the door with him, something that might have worked because DePape is ****ing bananas.

Hell, just read this portion of his statement to police:


DEPAPE stated that Pelosi was in bed and appeared surprised by DEPAPE. DEPAPE told Pelosi to wake up. DEPAPE told Pelosi that he was looking for Nancy. Pelosi responded that she was not present. Pelosi asked how they could resolve the situation, and what DEPAPE wanted to do. DEPAPE stated he wanted to tie Pelosi up so that DEPAPE could go to sleep as he was tired from having had to carry a backpack to the Pelosi residence.

[sturg33]

It would be quite odd if the broken glass didn’t automatically trigger a 911 call…

That doesn’t automatically mean Pelosi was ramming this guy, but it’s definitely a gap!

The idea that there is no security at this mansion is so absurd i can't believe the seals are buying it

[chop2chip]

I think this is a reasonable question. I'm curious about whether the security alarm went off. But people do sometimes neglect to set it.

You and I neglect to set it. I live in the suburbs with Austin with my fellow middle class. It would be bizarre if a famous family that’s wealthy that requires a 24/7 private security detail would simply “not set” a home intrusion alarm.

[mqt]

You and I neglect to set it. I live in the suburbs with Austin with my fellow middle class. It would be bizarre if a famous family that’s wealthy that requires a 24/7 private security detail would simply “not set” a home intrusion alarm.

Wouldn’t you agree it’s a little less bizarre if it’s an 81-year-old in what is likely one of the safest neighborhoods in the world? Hell, the one witness was someone working private security nearby. It’s easy to forget that being in that lifestyle for 50 years might allow them to take for granted how abnormal their position is.

[msstate7]

So DePape is an illegal immigrant. The left is torn on if he's bad or not now haha

[chop2chip]

Wouldn’t you agree it’s a little less bizarre if it’s an 81-year-old in what is likely one of the safest neighborhoods in the world? Hell, the one witness was someone working private security nearby. It’s easy to forget that being in that lifestyle for 50 years might allow them to take for granted how abnormal their position is.

It’s a possible explanation. I would counter that it’s then irresponsible to allow your fellows in congress to try to place blame for this attack on republicans when you put yourself in a position where a mentally ill person can break into your home with a hammer. Tax payers are financing their home security I imagine.

[mqt]

It’s a possible explanation. I would counter that it’s then irresponsible to allow your fellows in congress to try to place blame for this attack on republicans when you put yourself in a position where a mentally ill person can break into your home with a hammer. Tax payers are financing their home security I imagine.

Agreed, but that’s hardly surprising. I might support Democratic policies more than Republican ones, but Democratic politicians are still the ****ing worst.

[chop2chip]

Agreed, but that’s hardly surprising. I might support Democratic policies more than Republican ones, but Democratic politicians are still the ****ing worst.

Definitely not surprising. Unfortunate how eager each side is to seize the moment.

Part of me wishes we would have let this story lie. For all I care Paul Pelosi can dress like a goose and have 25 Berkeley hippies run a train on him. He’s an adult and in his private residence. It’s very unfortunate that this incident had to become political theater.

[thethe]

And he’s an illegal.

Get these people out of the country.

[mqt]

Definitely not surprising. Unfortunate how eager each side is to seize the moment.

Part of me wishes we would have let this story lie. For all I care Paul Pelosi can dress like a goose and have 25 Berkeley hippies run a train on him. He’s an adult and in his private residence. It’s very unfortunate that this incident had to become political theater.

Yep, but much like the ghouls on the Left taking this moment to go after the Right, the ghouls on the Right can’t let this be about a deranged radical that believes the most extreme version of their words either. So instead of wishing Pelosi well and moving on, it was a gay lover. It must always be about the other side being evil and your side being right.

This is why thethe’s post above mine will be the only thing we hear from those not willing to cling to the gay lover story.

[thethe]

Yep, but much like the ghouls on the Left taking this moment to go after the Right, the ghouls on the Right can’t let this be about a deranged radical that believes the most extreme version of their words either. So instead of wishing Pelosi well and moving on, it was a gay lover. It must always be about the other side being evil and your side being right.

This is why thethe’s post above mine will be the only thing we hear from those not willing to cling to the gay lover story.

You act like we are supposed to let bygones be bygones after the endless lies and baseless accusations from the establishment left/right.

Until accountability is had then this will be the norm.

[acesfull86]

I’ve only loosely followed this story, but so far I’ve heard everything from this guy being MAGA, to a Berkeley hippie nudist, to a QAnon guy, to an illegal immigrant, to a right wing nut demanding answers from Speaker Pelosi, to a gay lover of Paul Pelosi. Was he designed in a lab to trigger just about everyone on the political spectrum? We’re only missing gun nut and drag queen, but it’s still early.

[57Brave]

let's all be thankfull a broken skull was the worst of it.
just think,, Brett Kavanagh coulda been a block away or even worse had his desert interrupted

Secondly, Mr Pelosi is 81 years old.
Gay lover ?

[mqt]

I’ve only loosely followed this story, but so far I’ve heard everything from this guy being MAGA, to a Berkeley hippie nudist, to a QAnon guy, to an illegal immigrant, to a right wing nut demanding answers from Speaker Pelosi, to a gay lover of Paul Pelosi. Was he designed in a lab to trigger just about everyone on the political spectrum? We’re only missing gun nut and drag queen, but it’s still early.

That’s the beauty of the criminal being as crazy as this one seems to be. Fringe lunatics don’t tend to have the most settled political views. That paired with a political and media landscape designed to reinforce any argument you want to make leads to people being able to run wild with speculation.

[mqt]

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Some exceptional leadership being shown by the person who might be elected Governor of Arizona next week.

[nsacpi]

Time to secure the northern border.

[nsacpi]

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[nsacpi]

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[sturg33]

Ah

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[nsacpi]

Deep state covering its tracks with an assist from the MSM

[mqt]

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But he said he was a friend!

[thethe]

Oh the DA said it.

Has to be true.

[nsacpi]

be skeptical

[sturg33]

Is there a good reason not to release the body cam or security footage?

[nsacpi]

yes...to cover deep state's tracks...they obviously have something to hide

[sturg33]

Ahh

[nsacpi]

maybe the security footage shows Pelosi breaking the glass door from the inside to make it seem like a breakin

[sturg33]

I suspect we will never know

[sturg33]

The idea that this crazy guy was able to surpass all surveillance with no problems is such a stretch that only a seal could believe it

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[cajunrevenge]

If I know one thing the guy can be convicted and confess multiple times and you people still wont believe it.

[mqt]

It’s amazing how much boot licking the Right does about the police up until the moment it’s not in their interest. There’s this rush to see security footage for a case in which a man known to espouse fringe conspiracy theories and act in a strange manner was in a rich person’s house and was watched assaulting that man with a hammer. That man then admitted to doing those things and provided reasons why. We’d might as well just use this logic for all crime now. Oh, break-ins are up in a liberal city? Do you have video of each of these break-ins proving they weren’t in by their rich lover?

It’s also amazing to see the strategy shift in real-time. First we didn’t have all the facts, now as official filings become available the story is mysteriously changing. I’m already seeing people claim that footage they haven’t released won’t be able to be trusted because they had time to doctor the videos.

[sturg33]

If you're accusing me of being a police bootlicker you are barking up the wrong tree.

Im not sure what reason there is to not release security footage

[nsacpi]

i'm not sure either

[nsacpi]

Wouldn't surprise me if this dude is antifa or failing that was plied with booze, sex and drugs by the FBI to do the dirty deed. Has the FBI's fingerprints all over it. Especially the hammer, which I believe is a special-issue FBI hammer.

bumped for truthiness

[mqt]

If you're accusing me of being a police bootlicker you are barking up the wrong tree.

Im not sure what reason there is to not release security footage

Is there any reason to do so beyond getting online conspiracy theorists to shut the **** up?

I’m fine either way.

[nsacpi]

Is there any reason to do so beyond getting online conspiracy theorists to shut the **** up?

you being a touch naive there

[sturg33]

Is there any reason to do so beyond getting online conspiracy theorists to shut the **** up?

Yes. An assassination attempt of the speaker of the house deserves full public transparency. Do you not agree?

[nsacpi]

If footage were released how could we be sure it was not doctored.

[sturg33]

If footage were released how could we be sure it was not doctored.

Finding myself on the opposite side of whatever your real time judgement has been has never let me down

The greatest contrarian indicator of my lifetime.

Looking forward to collecting next week

[nsacpi]

Starting to wonder if Paul gay hooker and him had a bit of a disagreement
bumped for ****s and giggles

[Tapate50]

Finding myself on the opposite side of whatever your real time judgement has been has never let me down

The greatest contrarian indicator of my lifetime.

Looking forward to collecting next week

You figure out the charity yet?

[sturg33]

bumped for ****s and giggles

Perhaps an academic like yourself can advise on what "starting to wonder" means

[mqt]

Perhaps an academic like yourself can advise on what "starting to wonder" means

It apparently means that you will jump through hoops to ignore basic reality to cling to your wonder.

[nsacpi]

This thread will undoubtedly get even juicier than it currently is. So far it has exceeded my expectations!

bumped for sagacity

[sturg33]

It apparently means that you will jump through hoops to ignore basic reality to cling to your wonder.

Do you not believe an assassination attempt on the speaker of the house deserves to be scrutinized including the security footage?

[sturg33]

Interested to see how this thread evolves when it turns out it’s just a good ol’ fashion B&E in crime riddled SF.

There is a bit of irony in the pelosis feeling the effects of the disaster they have presided over in ****hole SF

[nsacpi]

I suspect we will never know


Perhaps an academic like yourself can advise on what "starting to wonder" means

words of art

[sturg33]

words of art

Yes I predict we will not see the security of the footage of the ninja getting through.

I hope I'm wrong

[nsacpi]

Yes I predict we will not see the security of the footage of the ninja getting through.

I hope I'm wrong

i suspect any release of the footage will not quell the speculation and conspiracy theorizing that now appear to be hard-wired into so many people's minds

that's my prediction

and oh i expect the footage to be released in due course...it could be that it is a practice of law enforcement to hold on to such evidence until a trial...maybe the legal eagles can chime in on this...but in a case like this i think it would be a good idea to release the kraken um footage

[mqt]

Do you not believe an assassination attempt on the speaker of the house deserves to be scrutinized including the security footage?

Sure, that’s perfectly fine. I don’t see much need to rush, though. They already caught the criminal.

[nsacpi]

They already caught the criminal.
How can you be sure of that

[Tapate50]

BL desperately needs a win

[sturg33]

Based on this thread... Tough to argue

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[thethe]

Based on this thread... Tough to argue

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So the DA changes the original story and then says no body cam footage.

How are the seals so ****ing stupid?

[Tapate50]

Paul Pelosi coming into work the next day:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KueNFVtb0M

[sturg33]

Unsurprised to see no new thread from the lecturer

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[sturg33]

Too perfect

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[cajunrevenge]

Unsurprised to see no new thread from the lecturer

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Probably one of his gay lovers that did it. So not politically motivated. But seriously though, he probably did it himself for attention.

[nsacpi]

Probably one of his gay lovers that did it. So not politically motivated. But seriously though, he probably did it himself for attention.

I would go with deep state FBI entrapping him into self-harm. When the video is released everyone will understand what really happened.

[cajunrevenge]

Yeah I dont want to hear any of these bootlickers defending the proven corrupt FBI here. Its clearly a hoax designed to take away our guns. They just need to do their own research and not listen to the fake news media.

[Tapate50]

Word

[sturg33]

Oh... Some new details here.

Pelosi opened the door for police. Then retreated away from them to go back to depape.

Why they refuse to release the footage makes zero sense to me

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[thethe]

As everything else over time the idiot leftists will stop posting when they are shown to be hilariously wrong.

[cajunrevenge]

As everything else over time the idiot leftists will stop posting when they are shown to be hilariously wrong.

Omg, gonna have to call in the roflcopter for this one.



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[Tapate50]

Seems dramatic.

Also- HRC doing the media blitz blaming a berkely canadian immigrant assaulting Paul Pelosi as MAGA blowback.

She has apparently ceased to try and be a serious person.

[msstate7]

Probably one of his gay lovers that did it. So not politically motivated. But seriously though, he probably did it himself for attention.

Nice haha

[sturg33]

Right are you starting to see why the initial reporting raised a lot of questions?

Paul called the police and described him as his friend.

The police initially said that a third person opened the door for them

They later qualified there was no third person

I'm not familiar with how they got in now. Did they barge in?

If so, how the heck was it originally claimed that they were let in?

If they were let in, and there was no third person, who the heck let them in? Am I supposed to believe Paul opened the door and then walked back to attacker to start getting assaulted?

Why do message board posters have to ask this rather than the media?


NBC reported today that the bolded sentence above is in fact what happened

im not sure how any clear minded individual could believe that makes any sense

[nsacpi]

Isn't NBC part of the MSM. This might be worth discussing if say Alex Jones or cerno were reporting it. But NBC. How low we stoop these days.

[nsacpi]

I just want it entered into the record that if Paul Pelosi had not been so eager to return to the embrace of his gay lover he would never have been in close enough proximity to have his skull cracked with a hammer.

Pro tip: best to respect the personal space of your gay lovers.

[sturg33]

I understand your desire for snark. It's really how you can do these days

but please tell me why a person would call the cops on someone threatening him... and when the cops show up, return to the assailant who is holding a weapon in his hand

the best defense at this point would be senility

[cajunrevenge]

Well cops did shoot a child running to them to escape her kidnapper recently.



Why cant we just wait for the investigation to be finished instead of arguing over media reports based on speculation and "sources".

[mqt]

I understand your desire for snark. It's really how you can do these days

but please tell me why a person would call the cops on someone threatening him... and when the cops show up, return to the assailant who is holding a weapon in his hand

the best defense at this point would be senility

I don’t see how this even remotely works for you on any level. If this were a premeditated stunt, why would Pelosi go back to get his head bashed in with a hammer?

[sturg33]

I don’t see how this even remotely works for you on any level. If this were a premeditated stunt, why would Pelosi go back to get his head bashed in with a hammer?

I do not believe pelosi planned to have his head bashed in, if you were confused about my position

[mqt]

I do not believe pelosi planned to have his head bashed in, if you were confused about my position

Then is your position that he didn’t think he’d get his head bashed in with a hammer, but the person he planned this with went rogue and did it anyway so that he could go to prison forever? Or that he just either hired or slept with a ****ing homeless lunatic and didn’t think he’d bash his head in with a hammer? Explain to me like I’m 5 how the conspiracy theories make any more sense than the official story based on Pelosi walking several feet back into the house.

[Garmel]

Wut?

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[thethe]

As everything else over time the idiot leftists will stop posting when they are shown to be hilariously wrong.

The story has changed several times now and no body cam footage to be provided.

This is just going how every other big story has gone the last 8 years.

[mqt]

The story has changed several times now and no body cam footage to be provided.

This is just going how every other big story has gone the last 8 years.

But not in any way that should cast doubt on what happened. They’re very minor corrections or clarifications that are being overanalyzed to death to fit your narrative.

[thethe]

But not in any way that should cast doubt on what happened. They’re very minor corrections or clarifications that are being overanalyzed to death to fit your narrative.

'minor' corrections can actually be a key to re-constructing what actually happened.

The thing about lies is that you have to consistently tell lies to keep up with changing facts or questions.

But when you're upfront and honest you never have to change the story.

[sturg33]

But not in any way that should cast doubt on what happened. They’re very minor corrections or clarifications that are being overanalyzed to death to fit your narrative.

Can we agree on these events?

1. Crazy lunatic somehow bypasses Pelosi security (or there was zero security) and breaks into Pelosi house

2. Crazy lunatic explains he wants to kill Nancy and threatens to tie up Paul until she returns

3. Paul convinces crazy lunatic to let him make a call or be excused to the bathroom (I'm not sure what the latest is here)

4. Crazy lunatic obliges

5. Cops come and knock on the door.

6. Crazy lunatic - holding a hammer - allows Paul to go answer the door during his crime/kidnap

7. Paul opens the door to great relief that the cops came to help him. Rather than tell the cops where the crazy guy is and stand behind them... He... Goes back to the crazy lunatic holding the hammer threatening to kill his wife

8. Crazy lunatic hammers his skull in

9. Cops tackle the crazy lunatic.

Can we agree on those events?

[mqt]

'minor' corrections can actually be a key to re-constructing what actually happened.

The thing about lies is that you have to consistently tell lies to keep up with changing facts or questions.

But when you're upfront and honest you never have to change the story.

Tell me more about how it was a gay lover due to them being in their underwear then. If you (a general you) need to change your conspiracy, are you being honest?

[mqt]

Can we agree on these events?

1. Crazy lunatic somehow bypasses Pelosi security (or there was zero security) and breaks into Pelosi house

2. Crazy lunatic explains he wants to kill Nancy and threatens to tie up Paul until she returns

3. Paul convinces crazy lunatic to let him make a call or be excused to the bathroom (I'm not sure what the latest is here)

4. Crazy lunatic obliges

5. Cops come and knock on the door.

6. Crazy lunatic - holding a hammer - allows Paul to go answer the door during his crime/kidnap

7. Paul opens the door to great relief that the cops came to help him. Rather than tell the cops where the crazy guy is and stand behind them... He... Goes back to the crazy lunatic holding the hammer threatening to kill his wife

8. Crazy lunatic hammers his skull in

9. Cops tackle the crazy lunatic.

Can we agree on those events?

Yes, those appear to be the facts. However, I don’t find that Pelosi and the lunatic acting irrationally in this very intense and fast paced situation implies there’s more to the story. People act irrationally all the time in far less extreme circumstances.

[sturg33]

Yes, those appear to be the facts. However, I don’t find that Pelosi and the lunatic acting irrationally in this very intense and fast paced situation implies there’s more to the story. People act irrationally all the time in far less extreme circumstances.

Ok great.

I have concerns about a few of these facts.

1. The lack of security makes zero sense

2. The crazy lunatic would not allow his captive to be excused or open a door (I know your defense here is that he is in fact crazy)

3. When rescued, Paul Pelosi would not put himself back in danger with a crazed lunatic

I'm sorry man just use your brain for a second. If your only defense of all this is "people be crazy bro!" then that's not good enough for me. They should in fact release the footage

[mqt]

Ok great.

I have concerns about a few of these facts.

1. The lack of security makes zero sense

2. The crazy lunatic would not allow his captive to be excused or open a door (I know your defense here is that he is in fact crazy)

3. When rescued, Paul Pelosi would not put himself back in danger with a crazed lunatic

I'm sorry man just use your brain for a second. If your only defense of all this is "people be crazy bro!" then that's not good enough for me. They should in fact release the footage

Again, I don’t see how any of the other conspiracies magically make any more sense.

[thethe]

Tell me more about how it was a gay lover due to them being in their underwear then. If you (a general you) need to change your conspiracy, are you being honest?

I think the general dishonesty we have seen should leave any and all options open as possible despite most of them being extremely unlikley.

[sturg33]

Again, I don’t see how any of the other conspiracies magically make any more sense.

I'm not saying the do. I'm saying what is being reported does not.

1. Consistent changing story from police and media

2. Eventually agreed on facts make no sense

3. They refuse to release the footage

[sturg33]

And now NBC is deleting that video and changing their story again

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[thethe]

When you lie in the beginning its an endless game of catchup to contain the ramifications of your lies.

[mqt]

I'm not saying the do. I'm saying what is being reported does not.

1. Consistent changing story from police and media

2. Eventually agreed on facts make no sense

3. They refuse to release the footage

So wouldn’t you agree it’s wholly irresponsible for public figures on the right to promote these conspiracies given the obvious understanding that no matter what we find out later their audience will cling to those conspiracies?

[thethe]

So wouldn’t you agree it’s wholly irresponsible for public figures on the right to promote these conspiracies given the obvious understanding that no matter what we find out later their audience will cling to those conspiracies?

Just as irresponsible as saying this guy was MAGA.

But this is the world we are in now because of all the lies the left has pushed for the past decade. And before you say the right does the same I'd love to create a ledger of said lies and do a comparison.

[mqt]

And now NBC is deleting that video and changing their story again

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To be clear, this is also bad. The desire to rush a story to get the “scoop” for ratings is abhorrent.

[sturg33]

I can spin up a more plausible story than what is being reported. Do I think this is what happened? No. But this MAKES MORE SENSE than what is being reported

1. Hippy nudist activist who frequents political events and protests has been friendly with Paul before

2. Hippy nudist friend of Paul is invited over to Paul... No need to bypass security. He's let in

3. Hippy nudist activist - potentially drugged up -is crazy and starts talking about crazy things... Making Paul uncomfortable

4. Paul goes to bathroom and calls the cops for potential help... Identifying his "friend" in the house

5. Cops show up. Paul indicates things are ok and that is for checking on them on routine wellness check

6. Crazy drugged up lunatic feels betrayed and bashes Paul's head in

The speaker calls in a favor to her district to ensure none of these details get to the public.