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Heyward
03-30-2023, 03:34 PM
Sandy/Scherzer locked into a pitchers duel. Bohm just took DeGrom deep, up 2-0 early for Philly.

msstate7
03-30-2023, 03:37 PM
Swanson 3-4, rbi
Contreras 0-3, 3 k

The Chosen One
03-30-2023, 04:18 PM
How amazing is it that MLB featured ZERO games on espn for opening day.

Manfred and Co. doing Manfred and Co. things.

msstate7
03-30-2023, 04:34 PM
Grossman just took Nola deep... 5-5 now vs Phillies

Heyward
03-30-2023, 04:48 PM
9-5 Texas now.

WaitingFor2017
03-30-2023, 04:52 PM
I decided to torture myself and listen to Chip for an inning.

I'm done.

Heyward
03-30-2023, 04:57 PM
Marlins just tied it on Scherzer. 3-3 heading to the 7th.

CyYoung31
03-30-2023, 05:25 PM
9-5 Texas now, old friend Adonis Garcia 2-run double off the wall but slides off the bag to end the inning.

Lol. Adonis Garcia hasn’t played since 2017.

Heyward
03-30-2023, 06:03 PM
Lol. Adonis Garcia hasn’t played since 2017.

Adonis/Adolis, whoops lol.

50PoundHead
03-30-2023, 06:14 PM
Ji-Hwan Bae--former Braves' international signee whose contract was voided in the scandal--started at 2B for the Pirates today. Moved to CF late in the game.

Tapate50
03-30-2023, 08:43 PM
How amazing is it that MLB featured ZERO games on espn for opening day.

Manfred and Co. doing Manfred and Co. things.

I was watching WS vs Astros tonight

The Chosen One
03-30-2023, 09:29 PM
I was watching WS vs Astros tonight

Used to be wall to wall coverage.

Doubleheader at 1pm on ESPN and E2.
Doubleheader at 4pm.

Then a primetime game at 7 or 8.

Krgrecw
03-30-2023, 10:07 PM
Adley Rutschman went 5 for 5 today. Could be the best catcher in MLB after only half a season in the majors

Tapate50
03-31-2023, 08:12 AM
That Hunter Renfroe catch.

i'm not even sure how he got it.

thewupk
03-31-2023, 08:54 AM
That Hunter Renfroe catch.

i'm not even sure how he got it.

catch of the year so far

UNCBlue012
03-31-2023, 10:19 AM
The Braves signed our old friend Charlie Culberson to a minor-league deal.

bravesfanMatt
03-31-2023, 10:21 AM
The Braves signed our old friend Charlie Culberson to a minor-league deal.

Wonder what the plan is there. Can he play infield as well?

yes he can.. So does he come up and take Ehire spot maybe.

Carp
03-31-2023, 10:40 AM
The Braves signed our old friend Charlie Culberson to a minor-league deal.

Figured that was coming. But at age 34 (in 10 days), I can't imagine he has anything left. Not that he had a ton to lose anyway

striker42
03-31-2023, 10:48 AM
Interesting fact, since 2019, Culberson has a higher combined WAR than Arcia (0.4 to 0.1).

Note: I'm not saying Culberson will be better, he will almost certainly not be and probably can't even play SS anymore. Just thought it was interesting.

bravesfanforlife88
03-31-2023, 11:52 AM
The Braves signed our old friend Charlie Culberson to a minor-league deal.

Had to trick some people to think we still have Swanson on the team so they brought in his twin. I see you AA

thewupk
03-31-2023, 12:31 PM
Had to trick some people to think we still have Swanson on the team so they brought in his twin. I see you AA

The baseball version of we have food at home meme

JxnMissFan
03-31-2023, 12:57 PM
Interesting fact, since 2019, Culberson has a higher combined WAR than Arcia (0.4 to 0.1).

Note: I'm not saying Culberson will be better, he will almost certainly not be and probably can't even play SS anymore. Just thought it was interesting.

Maybe Charlie can find some of his 2018 magic. I forgot he was a really good bench player that year. He was worth 1.1 fwar.

The 2018 team got some expected performances. Charlie had 1.1 war, Camargo was a 3 war player. Markakis and Ender had good years too.

50PoundHead
03-31-2023, 02:34 PM
Interesting fact, since 2019, Culberson has a higher combined WAR than Arcia (0.4 to 0.1).

Note: I'm not saying Culberson will be better, he will almost certainly not be and probably can't even play SS anymore. Just thought it was interesting.

There's no planet anywhere in the galaxy where Culberson is a better player than Arcia. We can fWAR and bWAR this to death, but Arcia can be more than just a guy standing at the SS position. Arcia's performance hasn't come anywhere near equaling the buzz around him when he was coming up in the Milwaukee system, but he was a Top 100 prospect at one point. Culberson gets grit-and-gristle style point, but that's about it.

The only thing I find odd is that everyone bought the front office Kool-Aid over the winter regarding Grissom as the 2023 opening day SS.

CyYoung31
03-31-2023, 04:02 PM
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Hudson2
03-31-2023, 04:06 PM
1641880127003938816

I just saw that. Man that looks rough. You have to have more self control as a player.

Runnin
04-01-2023, 04:15 AM
After one game the Braves are already alone in first place. Let's see if they can go wire to wire.

bravesfanforlife88
04-01-2023, 11:52 AM
After one game the Braves are already alone in first place. Let's see if they can go wire to wire.

Magic number down to 161

striker42
04-01-2023, 12:01 PM
I always like to post this on April 1st. The story of the man who could have been the greatest pitcher in history. The Curious Case of Sidd Finch.

https://www.si.com/mlb/2014/10/15/curious-case-sidd-finch

WaitingFor2017
04-01-2023, 12:04 PM
Sean Murphy already out of the lineup in game 2. Snit is going with Ozuna and Rosario in DH and LF

Nerfherders
04-01-2023, 12:09 PM
I'm relatively new to the DH so trying to remember the rule. What happens if we have both catchers in the game (one at DH) and the one starting at C has to come out? Do we lose the DH?

50PoundHead
04-01-2023, 12:14 PM
I'm relatively new to the DH so trying to remember the rule. What happens if we have both catchers in the game (one at DH) and the one starting at C has to come out? Do we lose the DH?

Good question.

WaitingFor2017
04-01-2023, 12:14 PM
We would lose the DH in that case — which is why we need a 3rd catcher on the bench since bench players aren’t as important as they used to be.

I just don’t understand trading for Murphy and then doing this arrangement. It may only be one game to get Eddie some ABs, but when you trade for a player of his caliber and extend him, play him!

50PoundHead
04-01-2023, 12:32 PM
We would lose the DH in that case — which is why we need a 3rd catcher on the bench since bench players aren’t as important as they used to be.

I just don’t understand trading for Murphy and then doing this arrangement. It may only be one game to get Eddie some ABs, but when you trade for a player of his caliber and extend him, play him!

Agree. We have 6 OFs. You'd think we could go to 5 and have another C on the roster if they plan on giving both d'Arnaud and Murphy time at DH. I don't know if Hillard or Pillar is the back-up CF, so one is needed, but there's a bit of a redundancy with Ozuna and Rosario still in tow.

Nerfherders
04-01-2023, 02:13 PM
Yeah I think I'd rather have Tromp than Pillar at this point. Rosario can cover RF and Acuna CF if they have to do that.

I mean, in a situation where we lose Harris and Hilliard for some reason.

mfree80
04-01-2023, 02:28 PM
Yeah. I would agree that Tromp would seem to be more valuable than Pillar at this point.

One thought is that they may still be working on a contract swap type deal with Ozuna, but don’t want to sink his value by benching him. That could partly explain the need for six OF’s for the moment.

50PoundHead
04-01-2023, 02:46 PM
Yeah. I would agree that Tromp would seem to be more valuable than Pillar at this point.

One thought is that they may still be working on a contract swap type deal with Ozuna, but don’t want to sink his value by benching him. That could partly explain the need for six OF’s for the moment.

Cox had his guys. Snitker has his guys. And Pillar was drafted by the Jays when Anthopoulos was GM there and Anthopoulos was still GM when Pillar made his major league debut, so it may be that Anthopoulos has his guys too. I don't really get the veteran presence argument with Pillar because there are a lot of experienced guys on the team already.

bravesnumberone
04-01-2023, 10:46 PM
Wow that Cleveland-Seattle game flew by! 2 hours, 3 minutes.

chop2chip
04-02-2023, 09:26 AM
Wow that Cleveland-Seattle game flew by! 2 hours, 3 minutes.

That cuck Manfred deserves a lot of credit for possibly the best change to baseball in recent memory.

msstate7
04-02-2023, 09:46 AM
That cuck Manfred deserves a lot of credit for possibly the best change to baseball in recent memory.

Not sure how I feel about that. Watching at home, quick games are great. In person, I like being at the park a good 3 hours

jpx7
04-02-2023, 10:22 AM
Not sure how I feel about that. Watching at home, quick games are great. In person, I like being at the park a good 3 hours

The Royals @ Cubs Spring Training game I went to last weekend came in under two hours. It honestly felt like a waste of a drive to Mesa, at that length. And I heard a decent number of fans in my section grumbling about the quick duration.

chop2chip
04-02-2023, 10:46 AM
Not sure how I feel about that. Watching at home, quick games are great. In person, I like being at the park a good 3 hours

Taking kids to a 3 hour game is a nightmare.

NYCBrave
04-02-2023, 11:28 AM
Not sure how I feel about that. Watching at home, quick games are great. In person, I like being at the park a good 3 hours

The majority of us probably agree with you. But in order to gain news fans, they really had to do something about the length of games and all wasted time.

bravesfanMatt
04-02-2023, 11:35 AM
The majority of us probably agree with you. But in order to gain news fans, they really had to do something about the length of games and all wasted time.

Are they targeting Fox News or CNN fans.

msstate7
04-02-2023, 11:53 AM
The majority of us probably agree with you. But in order to gain news fans, they really had to do something about the length of games and all wasted time.

Nfl games are 3+ hours, and they have no trouble attracting fans. Not sure if a quicker game is what will bring new fans. Mlb needs to get their product on as many TVs as possible

chop2chip
04-02-2023, 12:05 PM
Nfl games are 3+ hours, and they have no trouble attracting fans. Not sure if a quicker game is what will bring new fans. Mlb needs to get their product on as many TVs as possible

Easier for NFL to get away with it because it’s once a week typically on the weekends. Being a baseball fan demands much more from you.

The real secret sauce for baseball is getting you sucked into the daily action. It’s much easier to do that if games are ending around 9 or 10 pm vs 11 pm

50PoundHead
04-02-2023, 02:29 PM
Taking kids to a 3 hour game is a nightmare.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/14/36/cc/1436cc8bd24771f957fff1229c418c89.jpg

Problem solved!

50PoundHead
04-02-2023, 02:40 PM
Easier for NFL to get away with it because it’s once a week typically on the weekends. Being a baseball fan demands much more from you.

The real secret sauce for baseball is getting you sucked into the daily action. It’s much easier to do that if games are ending around 9 or 10 pm vs 11 pm

I think one of the problems is that baseball started to trying to mimic football with a lot of unnecessary in-game strategy. With free substitution in football, coaches can design all kinds of plays and schemes depending on game situations. Baseball is far more static and it simply can't be played the same way. I think the 3-batter rule for pitchers and the pitch/hit clock are great new rules that will cut time off of games without sacrificing quality. I'm still not sold on the shift rules, but what I've seen a few more balls get through in what I've watched at MLB thus far.

50PoundHead
04-02-2023, 03:55 PM
What the F is going on with Duvall? Hitting .571 with 6 XBH and an OPS of 1.957. I guess he wins the first weekend of the season.

bravesfanforlife88
04-02-2023, 07:10 PM
I was listening to mlb on xm this morning and they were talking about an interview they had with AA on opening day where he said that he was trying to sign a TOR starter this off-season. Obviously didn’t come to pass but interesting in the fact that he blatantly said that. Probably talking about deGrom or Verlander if I had to guess

Slippyjms
04-03-2023, 12:10 AM
What the F is going on with Duvall? Hitting .571 with 6 XBH and an OPS of 1.957. I guess he wins the first weekend of the season.

He isn't worn down from playing CF yet. Give it time.

NYCBrave
04-03-2023, 05:46 AM
Phillies get swept by Texas and open the season 0-3. And now head to NY to face the Yankees.

bravesfanforlife88
04-03-2023, 07:20 AM
Phillies get swept by Texas and open the season 0-3. And now head to NY to face the Yankees.

Honestly, I feel we are going to drop 2 of 3 in St. Louis....Morton gets crushed by them, having a terrible career record and Dodd making his major league debut. He will be facing the best competition of his career.

Hulavol
04-03-2023, 08:31 AM
Honestly, I feel like we are going to take 2/3 if not sweep.
Something about this team is different. Yesterday not withstanding-
I think they will use Schuster’s disaster to show Dodd exactly what not to do.
And Charlie knows what he’s doing.

And this offense ? Bring it on.
Only concern is the third game is a day game…:)

The Chosen One
04-03-2023, 09:06 AM
Need to put on the road grays.

50PoundHead
04-03-2023, 09:51 AM
He isn't worn down from playing CF yet. Give it time.

I expect that the genie will go back in the bottle. He just had an amazing first weekend, but we've all watched him follow a hot streak with a perfect imitation of a ceiling fan.

bravesfanforlife88
04-03-2023, 09:53 AM
I expect that the genie will go back in the bottle. He just had an amazing first weekend, but we've all watched him follow a hot streak with a perfect imitation of a ceiling fan.

He is a streaky hitter, but I feel like Fenway is such a good stadium for him to play in.

50PoundHead
04-03-2023, 10:38 AM
He is a streaky hitter, but I feel like Fenway is such a good stadium for him to play in.

Agree. I have never really liked him as a player, but I was surprised his market was as weak as it was. $7 million isn't exactly chicken feed, but there are worse players being paid more. That said, he is 34 and a Type-1 diabetic, so those can really dampen the enthusiasm of buyers.

bravesfanforlife88
04-03-2023, 11:08 AM
Agree. I have never really liked him as a player, but I was surprised his market was as weak as it was. $7 million isn't exactly chicken feed, but there are worse players being paid more. That said, he is 34 and a Type-1 diabetic, so those can really dampen the enthusiasm of buyers.

Pretty sure he is going to be a 30+ HR player this season. For $7m that's a steal IMO.

CyYoung31
04-03-2023, 11:48 AM
Yeah, I’d much rather have Duvall than Ozuna.

striker42
04-03-2023, 11:50 AM
Yeah, I’d much rather have a slightly wilted head of lettuce than Ozuna.

FIFY

bravesfanMatt
04-03-2023, 02:15 PM
I get the pleasure of falling asleep to the Mets/Brewers game.. these offenses are awful..

WaitingFor2017
04-03-2023, 02:43 PM
Brewers lead the Mets 10-0 in the 5th.

Joc Pederson homered again. I do realize he wanted to go back west unless AA offered him way too much money, but how nice would it be to have him patrolling LF and lengthening the lineup even more?

bravesfanMatt
04-03-2023, 02:51 PM
Yeah. I make a post and the Brewers erupt for 7 runs.

WaitingFor2017
04-03-2023, 04:52 PM
Giants hit 7 home runs in a win at Chicago.

MadduxFanII
04-03-2023, 11:58 PM
Man, the Rockies are depressing. Admit it, you forgot Kris Bryant was on that team. So is Mike Moustakas, apparently. Charlie Blackman is still here. They were the guys who signed Jurickson Profar. They have big 2015 Braves energy.

WaitingFor2017
04-04-2023, 11:52 AM
Gerrit Cole will try to make Philadelphia 0-5 tonight.

WaitingFor2017
04-04-2023, 07:42 PM
Sandy Alcantara with a CG shutout only allowing 3 hits against a decent Twins team.

Garmel
04-05-2023, 08:55 AM
1643606491796996096

Garmel
04-05-2023, 08:56 AM
Sandy Alcantara with a CG shutout only allowing 3 hits against a decent Twins team.

In a game that was under 2 hours long.

striker42
04-05-2023, 09:02 AM
1643606491796996096

They should be playing in Las Vegas.

chop2chip
04-05-2023, 09:03 AM
Sandy Alcantara with a CG shutout only allowing 3 hits against a decent Twins team.

I’m amazed that someone with his stuff doesn’t strike more people out.

I’m amazed that someone who doesn’t strike more people out gets this consistently great results.

thewupk
04-05-2023, 09:21 AM
I’m amazed that someone with his stuff doesn’t strike more people out.

I’m amazed that someone who doesn’t strike more people out gets this consistently great results.

Fried is very similar

WaitingFor2017
04-05-2023, 12:49 PM
Is Jason Hayward going to have a comeback year with the Dodgers and hit between 12-15 HR and play solid defense?

Heyward
04-05-2023, 12:50 PM
Is Jason Hayward going to have a comeback year with the Dodgers and hit between 12-15 HR and play solid defense?

Looks like it lol. Typical Dodgers.

thewupk
04-05-2023, 12:51 PM
Is Jason Hayward going to have a comeback year with the Dodgers and hit between 12-15 HR and play solid defense?

Doubtful but I wouldn't be mad about it.

chop2chip
04-05-2023, 01:04 PM
Is Jason Hayward going to have a comeback year with the Dodgers and hit between 12-15 HR and play solid defense?
I will always root for him. The Dodgers notwithstanding, he and Freddie reuniting is a incredibly cute.

CyYoung31
04-05-2023, 01:37 PM
Doubtful but I wouldn't be mad about it.

I would, simply because we didn’t bring him home and fix him like we should have.

UNCBlue012
04-05-2023, 03:27 PM
Is Jason Hayward going to have a comeback year with the Dodgers and hit between 12-15 HR and play solid defense?

I cannot believe he's already 33 and has been in the league for like 14ish years. Goodness.

Hulavol
04-05-2023, 04:24 PM
Man I wish we had picked up JHey - y’all told me I was crazy. :)

And good point about the Mets got walked off and swept.

Hahhahahaahahahhahaha.

WaitingFor2017
04-05-2023, 04:46 PM
Boston may very well finish last in the AL East for the 3rd time in 4 years. Pittsburgh swept them at Fenway. The rest of that division is crazy good.

thewupk
04-05-2023, 05:06 PM
Joc Pederson hit a ball 109 mph that tore through the 1B's glove

bravesfanforlife88
04-05-2023, 05:36 PM
Boston may very well finish last in the AL East for the 3rd time in 4 years. Pittsburgh swept them at Fenway. The rest of that division is crazy good.

Can't wait to pick Duvall back up

thewupk
04-05-2023, 05:45 PM
Can't wait to pick Duvall back up

Will be a nice replacement for Ozuna in the lineup. Duvall/Rosario platoon like it always should have been.

UNCBlue012
04-06-2023, 11:49 AM
Austin is the best: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/austin-riley-atlanta-braves-mlb-baseball

GovClintonTyree
04-06-2023, 01:33 PM
Narvaez down for two months with a severe calf strain. Tough start for the Mets

WaitingFor2017
04-06-2023, 02:42 PM
Watching Kenley with a pitch clock is so surreal.

CyYoung31
04-06-2023, 03:49 PM
Narvaez down for two months with a severe calf strain. Tough start for the Mets

Will be alright if Alvarez works out.

Hulavol
04-06-2023, 05:12 PM
Austin is the best: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/austin-riley-atlanta-braves-mlb-baseball


This is great Tarheel - thanks for posting!

CyYoung31
04-06-2023, 06:32 PM
1644092809920610304

LOLOLOLOL

chop2chip
04-06-2023, 09:54 PM
Geez that patch is so bad.

Hulavol
04-06-2023, 11:30 PM
That’s so wrong - in so so so many ways.

Runnin
04-07-2023, 03:44 AM
Like Father, like Son- Druw Jones incredible catch! Did he backhand it??? (https://www.mlb.com/news/druw-jones-makes-incredible-catch-in-pro-debut)

Carp
04-07-2023, 05:30 AM
Like Father, like Son- Druw Jones incredible catch! Did he backhand it??? (https://www.mlb.com/news/druw-jones-makes-incredible-catch-in-pro-debut)

That's awesome.

bravesfanMatt
04-07-2023, 07:04 AM
How big is that field. Holy crap. You have to hit it 480 to get it over that centerfield wall.

striker42
04-07-2023, 09:29 AM
Like Father, like Son- Druw Jones incredible catch! Did he backhand it??? (https://www.mlb.com/news/druw-jones-makes-incredible-catch-in-pro-debut)

It annoys me greatly he's not a Brave.

bravesfanMatt
04-07-2023, 09:57 AM
It annoys me greatly he's not a Brave.

I know, we should have tanked that 2021 season.. nothing important happen that year.

striker42
04-07-2023, 10:29 AM
I know, we should have tanked that 2021 season.. nothing important happen that year.

Baseball should allow trading draft picks.

thewupk
04-07-2023, 10:46 AM
We will sign Druw as a mega free agent in about 8 years.

50PoundHead
04-07-2023, 11:23 AM
Like Father, like Son- Druw Jones incredible catch! Did he backhand it??? (https://www.mlb.com/news/druw-jones-makes-incredible-catch-in-pro-debut)

That's one heckuva big ballpark. I had to watch the video again to see if he was playing shallow CF like his dad, but he didn't seem to be in that close. Great catch.

50PoundHead
04-07-2023, 11:24 AM
Baseball should allow trading draft picks.

They do allow trading some level of picks.

bravesfanMatt
04-07-2023, 11:44 AM
That's one heckuva big ballpark. I had to watch the video again to see if he was playing shallow CF like his dad, but he didn't seem to be in that close. Great catch.

That was my immediate take.. great catch, but man he ran a half mile and still wasn't even on the warning track.

thewupk
04-07-2023, 12:36 PM
Just reminds me how old I am now that I'm watching Andruw's kid make plays like that. Funny to think that at his age his dad was doing that in the majors while hitting homers in the WS.

Hulavol
04-07-2023, 02:42 PM
I was wondering about this too- like I would go well out of my way to trade for him now before he becomes too impossible to get - ie multiple top line draft picks for Jones. But not sure that can truly be done- but man that’d be cool. Any chance at pulling that off evaporates with each at bat he takes …

msstate7
04-07-2023, 04:59 PM
Derek hall having thumb surgery. Phillies down another 1b

MadduxFanII
04-07-2023, 05:04 PM
Odorizzi is out for the season with a shoulder injury.

50PoundHead
04-07-2023, 05:30 PM
Holy cats! Bryan Reynolds' week of incredible rips. 6 RBIs today, 2 on HR (5).

chop2chip
04-07-2023, 07:09 PM
Odorizzi is out for the season with a shoulder injury.

Yikes. I had actually thought he would be nice to have right now. This should help alleviate my nitpick

Hudson2
04-07-2023, 10:24 PM
Holy cats! Bryan Reynolds' week of incredible rips. 6 RBIs today, 2 on HR (5).

Yeah he’s been on a tear so far.

Garmel
04-07-2023, 10:27 PM
Is it time to start having Grissom work on his LF defense instead of SS or am I jumping the gun too soon?

Carp
04-08-2023, 12:29 AM
Brian Anderson is raking so far. Really head scratching why we didn't attempt to bring him in.

Tapate50
04-08-2023, 06:33 AM
Brian Anderson is raking so far. Really head scratching why we didn't attempt to bring him in.

You know we didn’t ?

Super
04-08-2023, 07:50 AM
Is it time to start having Grissom work on his LF defense instead of SS or am I jumping the gun too soon?

No, that time was months ago.
If a guy can’t play major league SS at 21 he won’t just learn to at 22 or 23.

bravesfanMatt
04-08-2023, 08:06 AM
No, that time was months ago.
If a guy can’t play major league SS at 21 he won’t just learn to at 22 or 23.

Agree. Stop trying to make him something he isn’t. Let him play left for 5 or so games and then call him up. He can then play LF some. 2B some. SS occasionally or 2B while Ozzie covers short. Dump Ehire(I don’t think he has had one AB) Dump Ozuna when Harris is ready. Go from there.

50PoundHead
04-08-2023, 08:11 AM
I usually peruse some of the more interesting-looking box scores after I check the scoreboard every morning and I took a look at the Dodgers/D-backs from last night and saw that a "Miller" pitched an inning for the Dodgers. I thought it might be their #2 prospect Bobby Miller, but no, it was Shelby Miller. I didn't realize that he has made a few appearances in the bigs over the past few season. Funny that both Miller and Heyward, once traded for one another, are now on the same team.

chop2chip
04-08-2023, 09:53 AM
I usually peruse some of the more interesting-looking box scores after I check the scoreboard every morning and I took a look at the Dodgers/D-backs from last night and saw that a "Miller" pitched an inning for the Dodgers. I thought it might be their #2 prospect Bobby Miller, but no, it was Shelby Miller. I didn't realize that he has made a few appearances in the bigs over the past few season. Funny that both Miller and Heyward, once traded for one another, are now on the same team.

Reinvented himself as a pretty good relief pitcher.

thethe
04-08-2023, 10:25 AM
Miller for Swanson will remain one of the best trades in braves history.

Super
04-08-2023, 10:39 AM
Miller for Swanson will remain one of the best trades in braves history.

And Inciarte.

People can say the FO just got lucky that the ARI FO was **** but no one else jumped on that deal

50PoundHead
04-08-2023, 10:43 AM
Reinvented himself as a pretty good relief pitcher.

Good to see him back. Has battled through some pretty significant injuries. I always cheer for guys like that even if they aren't playing for the Braves.

Watched a couple of Heyward highlights and it looks like he's moved a little closer to the plate. I always thought one of his problems is that he was too far off it, which allowed the pitcher to work outer-half and with Heyward still trying to pull everything, it seemed to result in a lot of 4-3 ground outs.

Carp
04-08-2023, 11:10 AM
You know we didn’t ?

Certainly doesn't seem like it.

WaitingFor2017
04-08-2023, 01:01 PM
LHP Danny Young called up - Shuster sent to AAA and Seth Elledge DFA'd

Young should relieve Elder in his next start.

Tapate50
04-08-2023, 01:55 PM
Certainly doesn't seem like it.

I feel fairly certain AA explored all options. Not thinking so isn’t giving him his due credit

50PoundHead
04-08-2023, 03:04 PM
LHP Danny Young called up - Shuster sent to AAA and Seth Elledge DFA'd

Young should relieve Elder in his next start.

Young is a LH reliever.

CyYoung31
04-08-2023, 08:36 PM
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This seems impossible.

WaitingFor2017
04-08-2023, 09:36 PM
Jason Heyward just hit his 3rd homer of the year

mfree80
04-08-2023, 10:16 PM
Jason Heyward just hit his 3rd homer of the year

See Arcia before yesterday.

CyYoung31
04-09-2023, 02:40 PM
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Remember, he broke his wrist last year.

bravesfanforlife88
04-10-2023, 08:12 AM
1645148310859071489

Remember, he broke his wrist last year.

Watched the highlight, doesn't look good. Its the same wrist he hurt last season

The Chosen One
04-10-2023, 08:17 AM
Watched the highlight, doesn't look good. Its the same wrist he hurt last season

Doesn't seem like it was a highlight.

bravesfanforlife88
04-10-2023, 03:26 PM
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Remember, he broke his wrist last year.

Officially placed on the IL with a fractured wrist. No timetable for his return.

CyYoung31
04-10-2023, 03:26 PM
Officially placed on the IL with a fractured wrist. No timetable for his return.

That ****ing sucks.

CrimsonCowboy
04-12-2023, 01:12 PM
Salt Lake City wants an expansion team

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thewupk
04-12-2023, 01:18 PM
Salt Lake City wants an expansion team

1646211783953195008

Get ready for the Salt Lake A's

mfree80
04-12-2023, 01:33 PM
This is being pushed by the Larry H. Miller family, former owners of the Utah Jazz. They are not afraid to put up big money to make projects happen.

They own land for a huge development in the suburbs called Daybreak, and have already announced that they will build a new stadium there for the Salt Lake Bees, minor league AAA affiliate of the Angels. The plan is for a stadium to be a centerpiece of the Daybreak development.

They tend to be very successful at making things happen in Utah.

chop2chip
04-12-2023, 01:52 PM
This is being pushed by the Larry H. Miller family, former owners of the Utah Jazz. They are not afraid to put up big money to make projects happen.

They own land for a huge development in the suburbs called Daybreak, and have already announced that they will build a new stadium there for the Salt Lake Bees, minor league AAA affiliate of the Angels. The plan is for a stadium to be a centerpiece of the Daybreak development.

They tend to be very successful at making things happen in Utah.
I prefer this to any expansion in the south that would cut into the Braves market.

The Jazz have done well in Utah for decades but I’m skeptical that market could support a second pro sports team. On top of that, this would essentially be a second Coors Field scenario.

The Millers are good owners though. Larry was an exceptional steward for the Jazz and Gail did a great job after Larry died before she sold the Jazz to Ryan Smith. They wouldn’t be the wealthiest ownership group in baseball, but they would occasionally pay the NBA luxury tax during the Jazz competitive years.

thewupk
04-12-2023, 05:47 PM
Our OF situation may be worrisome right now but at least we don't have Pache starting for us like the Phillies do.

The Chosen One
04-12-2023, 06:13 PM
Don't see Salt Lake getting an MLB team.

I think Manfred wants Nashville or Charlotte because he wants the Braves market to be cut down. We basically have most of the Deep South as our TV market.

Manfred also appears deadset on Montreal. Whether that's Tampa moving if they dont' get a new stadium, or Montreal gets a new team.

He wants 32.

So room for two expansion teams. Or two expansion teams + Oakland & Tampa moving.

Expansion: Nashville or Charlotte + Portland
Oakland >> Las Vegas
Tampa >> Montreal

or

Tampa: New Stadium
Oakland >> Las Vegas
Expansion: Montreal + Charlotte/Nashville

Charlotte probably makes more sense than Nashville. Cardinals wouldn't be happy with Nashville being that close to their market. Charlotte would probably get all the Carolinas, and lower Virginia.

Portland I think could sustain an MLB team despite being really close to Seattle. They'd have to get a retractable roof like Seattle.

I personally would rather just see the Marlins being moved. Nobody goes to their games whether they're competitive or not. The WBC is the only time that stadium has been filled. Build a new stadium in actual Tampa proper, not St. Pete. Let the fans keep their team there. They can rep all of Florida. Baseball in Miami has proven for almost 30 years that nobody wants it there.

Carp
04-12-2023, 06:40 PM
Baseball in Miami has been a train wreck from the start. It was never given a proper chance to succeed. They went from one abomination of a park to another. Plus Jeff Loria

chop2chip
04-12-2023, 06:46 PM
Our OF situation may be worrisome right now but at least we don't have Pache starting for us like the Phillies do.

What are you talking about… Pache was the starting CF for a World Series champion

mfree80
04-13-2023, 12:54 PM
I prefer this to any expansion in the south that would cut into the Braves market.

The Jazz have done well in Utah for decades but I’m skeptical that market could support a second pro sports team. On top of that, this would essentially be a second Coors Field scenario.

The Millers are good owners though. Larry was an exceptional steward for the Jazz and Gail did a great job after Larry died before she sold the Jazz to Ryan Smith. They wouldn’t be the wealthiest ownership group in baseball, but they would occasionally pay the NBA luxury tax during the Jazz competitive years.

New information about this. Dale Murphy and others who were previously involved in the effort to try to attract a team to the Portland area have left that group and joined the SLC group. Apparently this effectively ends the serious effort by Portland and makes the SLC proposal more attractive. Rocky Mountain Power owns a 100 acre property just west of the city that would be redeveloped into a sports park and complex.

Sounds like this is picking up steam and is better organized and planned than many are expecting.

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2023/4/12/23680486/mlb-team-in-salt-lake-city-coalition-announced

chop2chip
04-13-2023, 12:57 PM
New information about this. Dale Murphy and others who were previously involved in the effort to try to attract a team to the Portland area have left that group and joined the SLC group. Apparently this effectively ends the serious effort by Portland and makes the SLC proposal more attractive. Rocky Mountain Power owns a 100 acre property just west of the city that would be redeveloped into a sports park and complex.

Sounds like this is picking up steam and is better organized and planned than many are expecting.
It will suck to lose Murphy as a team ambassador. He’s been so active with the Braves since his retirement. I imagine he would focus his time and attention with this new club.

bravesfanMatt
04-13-2023, 12:58 PM
watching the TB game and the Spring kid (who I really liked in spring training) left the game with something wrong with hand or wrist. Never seen a pitcher throw a strike and hurt his hand on the pitch. really weird.

NYCBrave
04-13-2023, 05:16 PM
Watching alot of baseball so far this year, seems like most teams besides the Braves have an advertisement patch on their sleeves. Wonder if the Braves will eventually take advantage of this revenue opportunity. They have some obvious choices local to the Atlanta area like Delta, Coca Cola, Home Depot, Napa, Georgia Power

Tapate50
04-13-2023, 05:54 PM
Watching alot of baseball so far this year, seems like most teams besides the Braves have an advertisement patch on their sleeves. Wonder if the Braves will eventually take advantage of this revenue opportunity. They have some obvious choices local to the Atlanta area like Delta, Coca Cola, Home Depot, Napa, Georgia Power

Ugh. It looks gross

striker42
04-13-2023, 06:25 PM
Watching alot of baseball so far this year, seems like most teams besides the Braves have an advertisement patch on their sleeves. Wonder if the Braves will eventually take advantage of this revenue opportunity. They have some obvious choices local to the Atlanta area like Delta, Coca Cola, Home Depot, Napa, Georgia Power

Go for a synergy choice, Harrah's Cherokee Casino.

UNCBlue012
04-13-2023, 07:43 PM
The Phillies ****ing suck lmao

Super
04-13-2023, 08:17 PM
Imagine not sweeping the reds

Hulavol
04-14-2023, 01:20 PM
The Harrah’s idea is brilliant-
If we did that we could bring back princess winalotta, the chief, and the lucky teepee!

The Chosen One
04-15-2023, 08:15 AM
Go for a synergy choice, Harrah's Cherokee Casino.

I've won a few thousand there, and the Murphy casino.

Love those spots.

bravesfanforlife88
04-15-2023, 10:12 AM
Go for a synergy choice, Harrah's Cherokee Casino.

There would be a ton of people triggered by that decision and be offended on other peoples behalf. But it would be a perfect choice as they are already partners.

CyYoung31
04-15-2023, 02:14 PM
How about no big, ugly corporate patch sleeve? Don’t these billionaires make enough money?

CrimsonCowboy
04-15-2023, 03:36 PM
Just move the A’s now
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Horsehide Harry
04-16-2023, 03:21 PM
Go for a synergy choice, Harrah's Cherokee Casino.

Mid 90's it would have been the Cheetah 3

CyYoung31
04-16-2023, 04:31 PM
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Hudson2
04-16-2023, 06:29 PM
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There’s the real Dansby Swanson.

Heyward
04-16-2023, 06:44 PM
Mets have a golden horseshoe up their ass. Very well should have lost 2/3 to the A's. Braves have had some fortunate games too so i guess it's whatever lol.

chop2chip
04-16-2023, 06:58 PM
Mets have a golden horseshoe up their ass. Very well should have lost 2/3 to the A's. Braves have had some fortunate games too so i guess it's whatever lol.
Today’s game was absurd. AAA’s would be a compliment

zitothebrave
04-16-2023, 08:35 PM
Shohei - 1.7 combined rWAR
Trout - 0.7 rWAR

Angels - .500 team.

it's a joke with their budget they haven't been able to build a competitive team around trout and shohei.

But we're gonna take this one deeper. Since Shohei entered the league, he and trout have combined for 54.7 rWAR since shohei joined in 2018. Both have won an MVP award and the angels have a combined record of 335-387

Keep in mind no other teammate duo comes close to that. Bregman and Verlander is the closest and that's 44.5. So despite having the best combo players in baseball for 5+ seasons, the Angels can't win ****.

So now you wind up on Shohei watch, where does he go. He wants to play in the playoffs so you would think a playoff team would be the leader. So with that you have to figure DOdgers and Yankees are right at the front. I wouldn't write off the Mariners trying to lure him in.

thewupk
04-16-2023, 09:30 PM
After the Braves win it all this year he will want to play with the Venezuelan trout.

Hudson2
04-16-2023, 09:43 PM
I’d guess the Dodgers set out this past offseason so they could go all out for Ohtani. I think teams like the Cubs will throw the bank at him to.

Carp
04-16-2023, 10:10 PM
You could probably pick 23 players out of hat to go with Ohtani and Trout and still do better than the Angels have done with those guys. Don't forget, they also had a 5.7 bWAR Simba overlap during this time as well.

Heyward
04-17-2023, 07:11 AM
I’d guess the Dodgers set out this past offseason so they could go all out for Ohtani. I think teams like the Cubs will throw the bank at him to.

Been saying Dodgers the whole time. I think he wants to stay on the West Coast as well, he's a lowkey guy as well.

UNCBlue012
04-17-2023, 07:44 AM
Been saying Dodgers the whole time. I think he wants to stay on the West Coast as well, he's a lowkey guy as well.

I'd also be really shocked if it weren't the Dodgers. He seems to legitimately like playing for the Angels, but they're just rancid. The Dodgers are a great organization in an area he clearly loves.

Hudson2
04-17-2023, 08:23 AM
It’ll come down to money too and there will be a few teams that will offer him an insane amount. I think it’ll be 1 of the Dodgers, Angels, Yankees, Mariners, and Padres in that order. Trout will do everything he can to convince him to stay.

Hulavol
04-17-2023, 08:37 AM
As long as it isn’t the damn Mets.

UNCBlue012
04-17-2023, 08:55 AM
It’ll come down to money too and there will be a few teams that will offer him an insane amount. I think it’ll be 1 of the Dodgers, Angels, Yankees, Mariners, and Padres in that order. Trout will do everything he can to convince him to stay.

The Angels know they need to make the playoffs to have a shot to keep him. I'm guessing, unless they're out of contention by then, they'll spend big at the Trade Deadline to get to the offseason.

Hudson2
04-17-2023, 09:19 AM
As long as it isn’t the damn Mets.

I completely forgot about the Mets. With the age of Scherzer and Verlander and how both are on short term deals and having health issues I’d put them ahead of the Dodgers and probably 1st on the list bc they’ll have more than enough money and Cohen is super motivated.

Hulavol
04-17-2023, 09:30 AM
I completely forgot about the Mets. With the age of Scherzer and Verlander and how both are on short term deals and having health issues I’d put them ahead of the Dodgers and probably 1st on the list bc they’ll have more than enough money and Cohen is super motivated.

Yes - all of these reasons, and I actually think Cohen is a maniac who will back up the Brinks truck and make SO tell him no. One interesting piece I read on a Mets site stated that In Japanese culture a superstar player isn’t inclined to join a team with another star player already on board. Reason is respect -they don’t want to take away from the other’s spotlight. The author was saying this way of thinking could be detrimental to SO deal.

bravesfanMatt
04-17-2023, 09:30 AM
I completely forgot about the Mets. With the age of Scherzer and Verlander and how both are on short term deals and having health issues I’d put them ahead of the Dodgers and probably 1st on the list bc they’ll have more than enough money and Cohen is super motivated.

The Mets will still have a 270 million payroll at the end of the season with holes that need to be filed. Not saying they won't throw money at ShowHey, but they will need to address a lot more after that.

It is crazy how good of a position the Braves are in. They will have a 166 million payroll at the end of this year and will only need a few holes to fill. We have some pitching that is growing in the Minors as well.. This run should last another 5 years most likely.

Hulavol
04-17-2023, 09:43 AM
I don’t know about five years - think about it this way - we don’t need to really bring up a prospect for five years- other than pitching. And we don’t need to make a bunch of farm clearing trades either. That’s a healthy amount of time to rebuild a very powerful farm while competing for WS. Not saying we are gonna have another load of Acunas and Ozzies and Rileys ready to go in five years… but we might :)
This is the beauty of having the whole team locked up for the whole run.

UNCBlue012
04-17-2023, 10:08 AM
The Mets will still have a 270 million payroll at the end of the season with holes that need to be filed. Not saying they won't throw money at ShowHey, but they will need to address a lot more after that.

It is crazy how good of a position the Braves are in. They will have a 166 million payroll at the end of this year and will only need a few holes to fill. We have some pitching that is growing in the Minors as well.. This run should last another 5 years most likely.

The Mets may have an extra hat in the ring though since he's an elite pitcher and position player, two things they will most definitely need. Looking at it as a "two birds, one stone" lens seems very Cohen.

Heyward
04-17-2023, 10:31 AM
I think he wants to stay on the West Coast, but no doubt you know Cohen will offer him just about anything.

Heyward
04-17-2023, 10:38 AM
The Mets will still have a 270 million payroll at the end of the season with holes that need to be filed. Not saying they won't throw money at ShowHey, but they will need to address a lot more after that.

It is crazy how good of a position the Braves are in. They will have a 166 million payroll at the end of this year and will only need a few holes to fill. We have some pitching that is growing in the Minors as well.. This run should last another 5 years most likely.

Some of this is with team options, so Braves could have some money to spend this winter. We can decline team options on Rosario, Morton, Yates for about 35+ mil in savings. Assuming we pickup TDA's and McHugh's for 8M and 6M. We do have quite a bit of guys with arb (Wright Arb1, Hilliard Arb1, Soroka/Fried Arb 4 (S2), Ian Anderson Arb 1, Minter Arb 4, Nick Anderson Arb 2, Luetge Arb 3.

Biggest holes look like BP depth, LF, and maybe SP depending on how Soroka does, and if Elder can prove he's capable of being a solid backend guy or not.

Our luxury tax salary is 154, just current payroll is 166, so we could have some room to play.

bravesfanforlife88
04-17-2023, 11:14 AM
Some of this is with team options, so Braves could have some money to spend this winter. We can decline team options on Rosario, Morton, Yates for about 35+ mil in savings. Assuming we pickup TDA's and McHugh's for 8M and 6M. We do have quite a bit of guys with arb (Wright Arb1, Hilliard Arb1, Soroka/Fried Arb 4 (S2), Ian Anderson Arb 1, Minter Arb 4, Nick Anderson Arb 2, Luetge Arb 3.

Biggest holes look like BP depth, LF, and maybe SP depending on how Soroka does, and if Elder can prove he's capable of being a solid backend guy or not.

Our luxury tax salary is 154, just current payroll is 166, so we could have some room to play.

The interesting thing is that AA has been in the running for TOR starter the past 2 offseasons....2 years ago was Verlander before he went back to Houston, and the interpretation MLBNetwork Radio said it was deGrom this offseason. AA said if it is the right player, they will go past that $21-22m area, but at the end of the day they'd still need room to fill the whole roster....

That being the case, the only player that would fill that bill IMO is Ohtani. Being an elite pitcher and hitter, it would vastly improve the team going forward.

Now i'm not saying AA will even text his agent, but if he doesn't get an offer in that ballpark, I don't know who he would.

thewupk
04-17-2023, 11:32 AM
Ohtani plays with Trout now....but what if he really wants to play with the Venezuelan Trout?

Hudson2
04-17-2023, 11:47 AM
Ohtani will be the first 50 million per year player imo. Verlander and Scherzer wont factor into his thinking on payroll bc they’ll both be gone after next year anyways. It may come down to location for him or where he sees the best long term spot he can win at. I don’t buy into the West Coast stuff. He wants to win bad you could see it in the WBC. If any team offered him the SS spot when he wasn’t pitching they’d win the bidding. He wants to play a position bad.

striker42
04-17-2023, 11:52 AM
Whoever signs Ohtani is likely going to end up regretting it before it's over. He's turning 30 next year. He probably has a few good years left in him but the farther into his 30's he gets the greater the risk is for a collapse.

thewupk
04-17-2023, 11:57 AM
Whoever signs Ohtani is likely going to end up regretting it before it's over. He's turning 30 next year. He probably has a few good years left in him but the farther into his 30's he gets the greater the risk is for a collapse.

Ohtani will generate so much money that it doesn't matter.

bravesfanMatt
04-17-2023, 12:03 PM
Whoever signs Ohtani is likely going to end up regretting it before it's over. He's turning 30 next year. He probably has a few good years left in him but the farther into his 30's he gets the greater the risk is for a collapse.

I am not sure... he could, but I am with you on this. I like the Tampa model better than I do the Mets approach. Developing and restocking and not paying huge for big time free agents seems to work pretty well.

chop2chip
04-17-2023, 12:03 PM
We have no reason to complain based on how amazing Murphy has been, but I wanted to highlight how awesome Willy has been with the Brewers… defensively.

His strike rate is 53.5% aka framing (93rd percentile)
3 blocks above average
He’s 1 for 3 throwing runners out.

This could all be SSS shenanigans, but it’s very encouraging. WC seems like an awesome kid and I’m happy he ended up in a good organization that’s going to try to develop him as a catcher. If he ended up in that garbage fire in Oakland, I wouldn’t like his chances.

bravesfanMatt
04-17-2023, 12:07 PM
We have no reason to complain based on how amazing Murphy has been, but I wanted to highlight how awesome Willy has been with the Brewers… defensively.

His strike rate is 53.5% aka framing (93rd percentile)
3 blocks above average
He’s 1 for 3 throwing runners out.

This could all be SSS shenanigans, but it’s very encouraging. WC seems like an awesome kid and I’m happy he ended up in a good organization that’s going to try to develop him as a catcher.

That was the most frustrating thing about not liking the trade. It wasn't anything to do with Murphy. I am thrilled we have him.. it was that I really liked WC as a player and felt it wasn't needed at the time.. But what done is done and Murphy has us all excited about this team.. so not worth complaining about it.

bravesfanMatt
04-17-2023, 12:08 PM
on a side note, Murphy should have had another caught stealing the other day if Griss could have held onto the ball.

Carp
04-17-2023, 12:21 PM
There is also the added value of keeping Murphy away from league rivals like the Mets, Pads, Cards, etc. I sure am glad we don't have to see Murphy 16 times a year.

chop2chip
04-17-2023, 12:24 PM
There is also the added value of keeping Murphy away from league rivals like the Mets, Pads, Cards, etc. I sure am glad we don't have to see Murphy 16 times a year.

Brewers have the second best record in the NL. Presumably we wouldn’t want to face Contreras in the playoffs either, so I think this point washes out.

CyYoung31
04-17-2023, 12:26 PM
Plus, Contreras is really young and cheap with plenty of room to get even better. But, yeah, Murphy is awesome.

Carp
04-17-2023, 12:34 PM
Brewers have the second best record in the NL. Presumably we wouldn’t want to face Contreras in the playoffs either, so I think this point washes out.

With respect to Bill, I'd much rather face Contreras than Murphy.

chop2chip
04-17-2023, 12:35 PM
FWIW, I don’t think the Braves should worry too much about the other players they gave up.

Kyle “Opening Day Starter” Muller is what he is

And…
Tarnok (who I really like) just got placed on the 60 day IL with a shoulder injury

bravesfanMatt
04-17-2023, 12:55 PM
FWIW, I don’t think the Braves should worry too much about the other players they gave up.

Kyle “Opening Day Starter” Muller is what he is

And…
Tarnok (who I really like) just got placed on the 60 day IL with a shoulder injury

I will agree with this.. Billy is the only one we gave up worth a crap. Muller might turn into something, but giving him up doesn't upset me.. what is funny is the A's didn't even get the second best player in that trade.

Heyward
04-17-2023, 01:01 PM
I will agree with this.. Billy is the only one we gave up worth a crap. Muller might turn into something, but giving him up doesn't upset me.. what is funny is the A's didn't even get the second best player in that trade.

Even if they didnt need Bill b/c of Shea. Could of used Bill to get something back at least.

chop2chip
04-17-2023, 01:02 PM
I will agree with this.. Billy is the only one we gave up worth a crap. Muller might turn into something, but giving him up doesn't upset me.. what is funny is the A's didn't even get the second best player in that trade.

Even Ruiz has played really well for the A’s.

.360 wOBA (.363xwOBA)
0.5 WAR

This is the equivalent to a .550 wOBA once controlling for having to play for a sewage depot team.

bravesfanforlife88
04-17-2023, 02:38 PM
Atlanta Braves
@Braves
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1h
The #Braves today reinstated LHP Max Fried from the injured list, and placed LHP Lucas Luetge on the 15-day injured list with left bicep inflammation, backdated to April 14.

bravesfanforlife88
04-17-2023, 03:01 PM
Mark Bowman
@mlbbowman
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1h
Harris did some agility drills on the field yesterday. He’ll likely be cleared to start swinging a bat again today or tomorrow.

CyYoung31
04-17-2023, 03:41 PM
Atlanta Braves
@Braves
·
1h
The #Braves today reinstated LHP Max Fried from the injured list, and placed LHP Lucas Luetge on the 15-day injured list with left bicep inflammation, backdated to April 14.

Nothing says baseball season is back like the ‘ole phantom IL stint.

bravesfanforlife88
04-17-2023, 03:59 PM
Nothing says baseball season is back like the ‘ole phantom IL stint.

Hopefully the last we see of that dude, he sucked

WaitingFor2017
04-18-2023, 09:30 AM
Did not realize Shelby Miller is a reliever on the Dodgers now. Freddie and Shelby reunited -and also the guy traded for Shelby in Heyward.

thewupk
04-18-2023, 09:35 AM
Hopefully the last we see of that dude, he sucked

I suspect he "rehabs" in AAA for awhile to see if his stuff comes around. He was really good the last two years for the Yankees. But he's 36 and relievers can lose it at anytime.

chop2chip
04-19-2023, 12:06 PM
I thought it would be interesting to compare the Hunter Greene extension against Strider given they are similar service time and age. Strider is the superior pitcher, so you’d expect him to earn a bit more on the backend, but the contracts are otherwise remarkably similar.

I think the consensus on the board is Strider’s extension is the riskiest of AA’s. I still question how necessary it was given the Braves controlled him through 2027, but it’s at least in line with the market rate.

Year - HG / SS
2023 - $1M / $1M
2024 - $3M / $1M
2025 - $6M / $4M
2026 - $8M / $20M
2027 - $15M /$22M
2028 - $16M / $22M
2029 - $21M (CO) / $22M (CO)

CyYoung31
04-19-2023, 03:03 PM
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Bumgarner is such a ****ing pussy.

zbhargrove
04-19-2023, 03:09 PM
Scherzer ejected for a foreign substance in his glove. Gotta love it

zbhargrove
04-19-2023, 03:10 PM
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Bumgarner is such a ****ing pussy.

I’m so glad we never acquired that guy. He sucks so hard

MadduxFanII
04-19-2023, 03:29 PM
Good lord, was Bumgarner really annoyed that Contreras seemed upset at himself for missing the pitch?

bravesfanforlife88
04-19-2023, 06:51 PM
I’m so glad we never acquired that guy. He sucks so hard

I was among those that really wanted to sign him but glad we didn't. Performance aside, dude is a massive douche.

Hudson2
04-19-2023, 08:39 PM
Bumgarner’s name sums it up. Dude is a Bum. He gets his panties in a wad way to easily.

CrimsonCowboy
04-20-2023, 12:14 AM
A’s take a step towards move to Las Vegas
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/athletics/oakland-as-enter-binding-purchase-agreement-for-las-vegas-ballpark-site-2764701/

Carp
04-20-2023, 10:05 AM
Let's not forget that thethe was beating the door wanting us to sign MadBum 3 years ago. He has a 5.23 ERA since joining the DBacks.

Carp
04-20-2023, 10:40 AM
Just a reminder on thethe's MadBum assessment:


His first season back. We should all expect those numbers to improve based on the pitch data


I would have given Madison that contract. He doesn't show any reason to assume he wont age well. People are dwelling way too much on years lost on fluke injuries.

MadduxFanII
04-20-2023, 10:50 AM
It's kind of funny how Bumgarner's hissy fits and temper tantrums are coded as tough and hyper-masculine in the baseball discourse, when they really just make him look like a petulant child.

CyYoung31
04-20-2023, 11:15 AM
Annnndddd….

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bravesfanMatt
04-20-2023, 11:22 AM
Go get him AA













and fly him to the Mets front office.

The Chosen One
04-20-2023, 11:56 AM
Ozuna for Bumgarner with DBacks paying for all salaries.

Who says no?

bravesfanMatt
04-20-2023, 12:08 PM
Ozuna for Bumgarner with DBacks paying for all salaries.

Who says no?

Why would the snakes do that..they basically told Bum to hit the road and here is your money, why would they now take Ozuna's salary on top of that.

Hudson2
04-20-2023, 12:34 PM
Somebody will take him on for sure bc he’ll be the league minimum.

50PoundHead
04-20-2023, 12:41 PM
Somebody will take him on for sure bc he’ll be the league minimum.

Agree that someone will try to right the ship with him. Hard to believe he's only 33.

bravesfanMatt
04-20-2023, 01:21 PM
For league minimum, I would think a non contender or someone like the Phils and see if they can improve him. If he makes it to the Dodgers, I could see them grabing him.

bravesfanforlife88
04-20-2023, 02:36 PM
For league minimum, I would think a non contender or someone like the Phils and see if they can improve him. If he makes it to the Dodgers, I could see them grabing him.

His fastball velocity is down below 90 mph. So if he doesn't have pin point control or phenomenal offspeed stuff he is going to get crushed and he has gotten crush so far.

Nerfherders
04-20-2023, 05:36 PM
Its weird to see Bumgarner is only 33. Degrom is 35 and has 5 less seasons and 900 fewer innings.

bravesfanforlife88
04-20-2023, 05:56 PM
Its weird to see Bumgarner is only 33. Degrom is 35 and has 5 less seasons and 900 fewer innings.

Watch him sign with the Rangers and go see his old buddy Bruce Bochey

CJ9
04-20-2023, 06:05 PM
Scherzer’s 10-game suspension puts him eligible to return for the final game of our 4-game series at the Mets next weekend.

bravesfanforlife88
04-20-2023, 06:24 PM
Scherzer’s 10-game suspension puts him eligible to return for the final game of our 4-game series at the Mets next weekend.

He is appealing the suspension so hopefully that takes a few days and he will be suspended during that series.

msstate7
04-20-2023, 07:40 PM
He is appealing the suspension so hopefully that takes a few days and he will be suspended during that series.

Non-cheating max may not be that bad

ramadon101
04-20-2023, 08:18 PM
He’s not appealing- most likely so he can pitch that final game against us.

bravesfanforlife88
04-20-2023, 08:18 PM
Cancel that. Scherzer dropped his appeal

Hulavol
04-20-2023, 08:52 PM
I am no longer afraid of him like I used to be. I got cured of Max fear last season (of course we had Dansby who seemed to have his number)…..he can give up a mistake or three - and with this lineup? Bring it on.

msstate7
04-20-2023, 09:06 PM
Cancel that. Scherzer dropped his appeal

He done lying now, I guess

zitothebrave
04-20-2023, 09:13 PM
He done lying now, I guess

What I want to know is why are pitchers allowed to put rosin on their hands in the dugout? Why don't they ban that as that seems to have been the issues they've been having lately where guys like German and Scherzer are coming out the dugout with sticky stuff which is Rosin with 'sweat"

zitothebrave
04-20-2023, 09:14 PM
For league minimum, I would think a non contender or someone like the Phils and see if they can improve him. If he makes it to the Dodgers, I could see them grabing him.

I mean I would take him and turn him into a reliever and see if he can throw 2-3 MPH faster from the BUllpen.

UNCBlue012
04-21-2023, 07:24 AM
Cancel that. Scherzer dropped his appeal

So yes, he cheated.

WaitingFor2017
04-21-2023, 10:22 AM
Scherzer will likely start May 1 against Atlanta.

Carp
04-21-2023, 12:33 PM
So yes, he cheated.

This whole thing still stinks. Wish they would drop it. Worried the speed of the game but the take the time to check pitchers multiple times a game. Give me a break.

The Chosen One
04-21-2023, 12:35 PM
This whole thing still stinks. Wish they would drop it. Worried the speed of the game but the take the time to check pitchers multiple times a game. Give me a break.

Doesn't the check happen after the pitcher is leaving the mound between half innings?

Seems there's reasonable enough time to check it when the other team hasn't gotten on thr field yet.

bravesfanforlife88
04-21-2023, 12:48 PM
Doesn't the check happen after the pitcher is leaving the mound between half innings?

Seems there's reasonable enough time to check it when the other team hasn't gotten on thr field yet.

It is checked in between innings. In Scherzers case, he had 3 checks in the game before his ejection. The first one, they told him to go wash his hands, which he did with an MLB representative present, the second one they noticed a sticky substance on his glove while his pitching hand was clean, so they told him to replace the glove. The finally they checked his hands again and his hands were worse than the first time and that led to the ejection.

The Chosen One
04-21-2023, 01:29 PM
It is checked in between innings. In Scherzers case, he had 3 checks in the game before his ejection. The first one, they told him to go wash his hands, which he did with an MLB representative present, the second one they noticed a sticky substance on his glove while his pitching hand was clean, so they told him to replace the glove. The finally they checked his hands again and his hands were worse than the first time and that led to the ejection.

Hmm. Did the mlb representative go in the bathroom stall with him to make sure cy's mom wasn't helping him make sticky stuff on his hands?

CyYoung31
04-21-2023, 01:31 PM
He said the representative made him wash it with alcohol which made it stickier. Hilarious incompetence if true, but completely believable.

bravesfanforlife88
04-21-2023, 01:34 PM
He said the representative made him wash it with alcohol which made it stickier. Hilarious incompetence if true, but completely believable.

Alcohol is actually supposed to get rosin off your hands. Again, it was pointed out by the umps that ejected him that his hands were clean on the second check, and even sticker than before on the third check.

CyYoung31
04-21-2023, 01:45 PM
Alcohol is actually supposed to get rosin off your hands. Again, it was pointed out by the umps that ejected him that his hands were clean on the second check, and even sticker than before on the third check.

I’m just telling you what he claimed.

Tapate50
04-21-2023, 01:49 PM
Shouldn’t mineral spirits take it off ?

UNCBlue012
04-21-2023, 02:47 PM
Our old pal Drew Smyly is shoving for the Cubs. He's currently tossing a perfect game through five innings with seven Ks and only 63 pitches. Also, the Dodgers kind of reek now.

bravesfanforlife88
04-21-2023, 03:38 PM
Our old pal Drew Smyly is shoving for the Cubs. He's currently tossing a perfect game through five innings with seven Ks and only 63 pitches. Also, the Dodgers kind of reek now.

Just lost it in the 8th on the first batter. Little squibber Smyly went to get and the catcher tackled him lmao

Nerfherders
04-21-2023, 03:39 PM
That's one of the more unique ways to lose a no hitter lol.

bravesfanMatt
04-21-2023, 03:44 PM
man, that was tough way to lose it. He was dealing too.

msstate7
04-21-2023, 04:39 PM
Dodgers resemble the braves early season last year. Think they right the ship?

bravesfanforlife88
04-21-2023, 04:46 PM
Dodgers resemble the braves early season last year. Think they right the ship?

I think they do eventually. Their pitching is hurting though for sure. And they don't have the depth we are accustomed to them having.

I wouldn't mind seeing their playoff streak snapped

CyYoung31
04-21-2023, 06:20 PM
I think they do eventually. Their pitching is hurting though for sure. And they don't have the depth we are accustomed to them having.

I wouldn't mind seeing their playoff streak snapped

Well, you can forget about that since Manfred insists on 3/4 of the league making the postseason.

Carp
04-22-2023, 08:43 AM
Freddie maybe starting to show some age. Obviously it's still early in the season and a good week would put him back near career levels, but at 33 (34 in September) it's certainly worth wondering if he's hit the age wall. His EVs are at a 5 year low currently and are in a trend down since the start of 2021.

msstate7
04-22-2023, 08:59 AM
Freddie maybe starting to show some age. Obviously it's still early in the season and a good week would put him back near career levels, but at 33 (34 in September) it's certainly worth wondering if he's hit the age wall. His EVs are at a 5 year low currently and are in a trend down since the start of 2021.

Maybe. His xwoba is .428, which is 2nd highest in his career.

Hulavol
04-22-2023, 03:02 PM
Yeah, I don’t think Freddie is just suddenly gonna fall off of a cliff like that all at once - it has happened obviously (Murphy, Andruw, Ozuna 😂) but maybe just falling off the bottom step of the pool.

Hulavol
04-22-2023, 03:04 PM
Christian Pache just hit a two run dinger

Slippyjms
04-22-2023, 10:51 PM
Christian Pache just hit a two run dinger

So it's official. Anyone can homer in CBP

bravesfanMatt
04-23-2023, 08:48 AM
So it's official. Anyone can homer in CBP

Well Olson would have to actually make contact. Ozuna would need to not K or hit weak grounders. Grissom would have to have an EV over 85.

Hulavol
04-23-2023, 04:01 PM
Even Pillar can do this

GovClintonTyree
04-24-2023, 12:43 PM
Did you all see David Cone's explanation of the impact of washing one's hands with alcohol after using resin? It was very well done and explains why Scherzer was saying he did everything right and the ump said he was cheating.