A question if the Braves seek another arm

[rico43]

What (or who) would Bethancourt bring in a deal? I am not eager to give him up, but I am comfortable that Gattis can be serviceable behind the plate for a number of years to come.

Who needs a catcher badly enough to cough up a big league rotation-caliber arm?

[BedellBrave]

It is interesting now that they signed the Cuban catcher.

[Tapate50]

Cubs?

[Dalyn]

Cubs?

Good fit.

[Millwood1Hitter]

We stand pat for now, but the trade deadline could be different.

[Dalyn]

We stand pat for now, but the trade deadline could be different.

:Alone:

[BedellBrave]

Okay so who needs Bethancourt, a good minor-league arm or two, and one or two of our scrubs battling for a bench position?

[PawPawMaxwell]

You spend all that money on extensions this off-season, then the Santana money plus the lost draft pick, now, what kind of pitcher do you want to fill Beachey.s spot?

If you move Bethancourt it almost has to be to an AL team to cover his weak bat.

As to your above post: Give nothing get nothing>

[AUTiger7222]

There's plenty of teams that could use a catcher. Rangers need a good young catcher. Bethancourt for Darvish? LOL! J/K!

[BedellBrave]

You spend all that money on extensions this off-season, then the Santana money plus the lost draft pick, now, what kind of pitcher do you want to fill Beachey.s spot?

If you move Bethancourt it almost has to be to an AL team to cover his weak bat.

As to your above post: Give nothing get nothing>

Aren't you advocating trading for a pitcher? Thought you posted several names. I'm asking what Bethancourt, Hale, maybe someone like Hursch, and Terdo, might get. Maybe that's nothing worth pursuing.

[tvsportscaster]

It is interesting now that they signed the Cuban catcher.

That signing for whatever reason has still not become official, so as of right now he is not a Brave.

[PawPawMaxwell]

Aren't you advocating trading for a pitcher? Thought you posted several names. I'm asking what Bethancourt, Hale, maybe someone like Hursch, and Terdo, might get. Maybe that's nothing worth pursuing.

I dont think that group would bring very much in return. None of them are proven. This team is a contender but with Medlen down (I know Santana takes his place) unless Teheran or Minor really take a leap then we are stretched pretty thin. The group you mentioned here would better serve the Braves in Gwinnett and hope to pick up a waiver wire arm who would pretty much equal what they would bring in trade.

The names I posted on another thread if I am correct in your relating were Samardzjia, Porcello and Lackey. All are continually mentioned as trade subjects. But you cant get them for what you are advocating.

[yeezus]

I dont think that group would bring very much in return. None of them are proven. This team is a contender but with Medlen down (I know Santana takes his place) unless Teheran or Minor really take a leap then we are stretched pretty thin. The group you mentioned here would better serve the Braves in Gwinnett and hope to pick up a waiver wire arm who would pretty much equal what they would bring in trade.

The names I posted on another thread if I am correct in your relating were Samardzjia, Porcello and Lackey. All are continually mentioned as trade subjects. But you cant get them for what you are advocating.

I think that group could bring in a solid #3-4 guy, personally.

[BedellBrave]

I think that group could bring in a solid #3-4 guy, personally.


And I'd think that is what we'd want.

[Julio3000]

This is interesting speculation. I mean, we've got to be looking at pitching. We're fairly poor in prospects. Where do we go from here?

[Dalyn]

This is interesting speculation. I mean, we've got to be looking at pitching. We're fairly poor in prospects. Where do we go from here?

If we succeed, we can finally wield the legendary three-handed sword.

[AUTiger7222]

I dont think that group would bring very much in return. None of them are proven. This team is a contender but with Medlen down (I know Santana takes his place) unless Teheran or Minor really take a leap then we are stretched pretty thin. The group you mentioned here would better serve the Braves in Gwinnett and hope to pick up a waiver wire arm who would pretty much equal what they would bring in trade.

The names I posted on another thread if I am correct in your relating were Samardzjia, Porcello and Lackey. All are continually mentioned as trade subjects. But you cant get them for what you are advocating.

People keep talking about Minor and Teheran taking the next step but I really don't know what more they have to do to "take that next step".

Teheran's last 27 starts. 169 2/3 IP, 152 H, 56 R, 53 ER, 17 HR, 38 BB, 158 SO, 2.81 ERA

Minor last 15 starts of 2012. 93 2/3 IP, 63 H, 24 R, 23 ER, 8 HR, 18 BB, 73 SO, 2.21 ERA
Minor's 2013 season. 32 Starts. 204 2/3 IP, 177 H, 79 R, 73 ER, 22 HR, 46 BB, 181 SO, 3.21 ERA

So Minor's last 47 starts. 298 1/3 IP, 240 H, 103 R, 96 ER, 30 HR, 64 BB, 254 SO, 2.90 ERA

I don't know. Maybe I'm just more impressed with both pitchers than others are.

[Dalyn]

People keep talking about Minor and Teheran taking the next step but I really don't know what more they have to do to "take that next step".

Teheran's last 27 starts. 169 2/3 IP, 152 H, 56 R, 53 ER, 17 HR, 38 BB, 158 SO, 2.81 ERA

Minor last 15 starts of 2012. 93 2/3 IP, 63 H, 24 R, 23 ER, 8 HR, 18 BB, 73 SO, 2.21 ERA
Minor's 2013 season. 32 Starts. 204 2/3 IP, 177 H, 79 R, 73 ER, 22 HR, 46 BB, 181 SO, 3.21 ERA

So Minor's last 47 starts. 298 1/3 IP, 240 H, 103 R, 96 ER, 30 HR, 64 BB, 254 SO, 2.90 ERA

I don't know. Maybe I'm just more impressed with both pitchers than others are.

Health and the ability to repeat. Minor is a lot closer than Teheran.

[PawPawMaxwell]

I think that group could bring in a solid #3-4 guy, personally.

Tell me again just what Bethancourt , Hale, Hursh and Terdo have proven.

[AUTiger7222]

Tell me again just what Bethancourt , Hale, Hursh and Terdo have proven.

You do realize that teams trade for guys based on POTENTIAL too right?

[yeezus]

And I'd think that is what we'd want.
agreed

[yeezus]

Tell me again just what Bethancourt , Hale, Hursh and Terdo have proven.

Nothing. But, a team going no where who has a solid 3 might deal him for those guys to hopefully get younger players, and hope some work out. It happens.

[mfree80]

Really tired of the "he hasn't proven anything" argument. The best players are only proven as far as the next injury. Teams make educated guesses on players with potential all the time. If you don't, you have only hindsight on which to judge.

Hindsight is 20/20. Even the teams with unlimited budgets end up with dead weight. I think there are many teams who would trade a player they don't need because they are not competitive now for 3-4 guys who have the potential to become MLB regulars.

Some will, some won't, but you take the chance to get better.