GDT #14, 4/16/'14: Braves (Teheran) vs Philthies (Lee)

[sturg33]

Braves

Heyward 9
BUpton 8
Freeman 3
JUpton 7
Gattis 2
Uggla 4
Johnson 5
Simmons 6
Teheran 1

Phils

WHO CARES? Teheran will shut them down faster than RG3 shuts GF down

[The Chosen One]

Expecting a huge game from BJ

[sturg33]

BJ still looks pretty terrible to me.

[thethe]

Alright Sturg...keep this winning streak alive!

[Hulavol]

Keep it up Sturg!!!

I woke up this am and thought : "we got this...Julio is on the hill and Sturg is doing the GDT!"

Expecting a HUGE game from Heyward and Gattis...

[Tapate50]

BJ still looks pretty terrible to me.

NOT encouraged by BJ?

[sturg33]

NOT encouraged by BJ?

I wish :Sad:

[Hulavol]

<------ Feels confident that BJ will get some hits tonight. Probably a dinger late...

[stpeteirish]

Lee has been hit pretty hard so far this year.

[jpx7]

Cliff Lee is a shell of his former self.

[The Chosen One]

Cliff Lee is a shell of his former self.

I have doubts he still even loves baseball.

[rico43]

Per DOB, Kimbrel threw side session and declaired himself good to go. It's colder than Gilesfan's heart, so Fredi says we'll see.

I hope they wait a day or two more. Give Thomas a shot.

[Orphan Black]

Remember the homer Gattis hit off of Lee last year (the first one that is even though the second was awesome too).

[Heyward]

Lee has a sub-2 ERA vs Atl in his last 10-12 starts vs Atl.

Gonna be tough to win.

[stpeteirish]

Remember the homer Gattis hit off of Lee last year (the first one that is even though the second was awesome too).

The one to CF? That was the longest HR in MLB last year, I think. Seem to remember it was off Hamels, not Lee.

[Hulavol]

Also, it is worth noting that Lee can be pure garbage in cold weather...

[thethe]

I still remember all the talk about Gattis not having a chance of being a MLB player. Fun times...

[Heyward]

Also, it is worth noting that Lee can be pure garbage in cold weather...

Must explain his ridiculous performances in the playoffs, yeah he struggles...........

[NinersSBChamps]

Julio can handle the cold weather. He did last year up in Denver.

[Hawk]

I was just looking at Lee's BR profile and noticed his middle name is Phifer. I don't know what to make of that.

[jsebe10]

God I hope we get to Lee early. Really not in the mood for his potential dominance tonight.

[Orphan Black]

The one to CF? That was the longest HR in MLB last year, I think. Seem to remember it was off Hamels, not Lee.

Was it Hamels...I get those two confused sometimes.

[31Kersh31]

Lets go Braves!! Game time

[NinersSBChamps]

Freeman is a men amongst boys.

[NinersSBChamps]

Time for class. Be back mid game, kiddos.

[thethe]

Man, I love me some Julio...both of them

[Runnin]

Uggla looking very good.

[thethe]

BABIPin

[Russ2dollas]

baseball.....seems like Simba and Uggla tagged the ball for outs. Then FF, CJ and Gattis bloop their way on...

[thethe]

I love that Teheran is not an easy out at the plate.

[USMA76]

I love that Teheran is not an easy out at the plate.

+1

[sturg33]

Teheran is busting out the change up a lot tonight!

[thethe]

Julio throwing the changeup a bit more than we are used to seeing tonight.

[thethe]

Teheran is busting out the change up a lot tonight!

Best part is that he is locating it on the corners and it has a lot of action on it.

[Hawk]

Beej.

[thethe]

Beej is looking to right field more. Baby steps.

[jsebe10]

Wouldn't hurt to maybe drop Heyward down in the lineup for a few games to get his swing down. He's scuffling something serious.

[thethe]

Wouldn't hurt to maybe drop Heyward down in the lineup for a few games to get his swing down. He's scuffling something serious.

He is walking still.The hits will start falling for him. It worked so well last year and it will work well again this year.

[jsebe10]

He is walking still.The hits will start falling for him. It worked so well last year and it will work well again this year.

No doubt. But remember he didn't start the season in the leadoff spot. He had plenty of time to get comfortable before he moved up there.

[jsebe10]

Go eat some dinner folks, Lee is locked in.

[thethe]

Go eat some dinner folks, Lee is locked in.

And the ump is ready to go home but giving him that corner.

[jsebe10]

And the ump is ready to go home but giving him that corner.

Yea that was bull crap. Justin wanted to throw his bat bad.

[Hawk]

wow. wake up bill welke.

[jsebe10]

Lol umpires.

[Tapate50]

Oso is angry!

[thethe]

LOL at Gattis not being a major leaguer. Good one Giles.

[stpeteirish]

the bear, oso

[nsacpi]

The Gorn

[mossy]

Gattis is a one trick pony. But man it's a good trick!

[sturg33]

I'm encouraged by Uggla

[Russ2dollas]

Phils should trade the farm for Gattis...he'd hit 50 playing in Philly

[thethe]

BABIP up to his old tricks.

[thethe]

Phils should trade the farm for Gattis...he'd hit 50 playing in Philly

That would be a conservative estimate.

[Tapate50]

Phils should trade the farm for Gattis...he'd hit 50 playing in Philly

That's ..... Scary.

[Tapate50]

How do we only have one run?

[Murphfan]

Diggin' Danny hitting the ball like he's supposed to. Does my heart good to see a good guy work hard and have it pay off, as bad as last yr was.

[thethe]

That DP hurt. Braves crushed the ball that inning.

[Hawk]

The Braves offense has so much potential.

[thethe]

Diggin' Danny hitting the ball like he's supposed to. Does my heart good to see a good guy work hard and have it pay off, as bad as last yr was.

Yeah, he is doing a solid job right now.

[thethe]

The Braves offense has so much potential.

Heyward isn't even hitting yet.

[Murphfan]

How do we only have one run?Cliff Lee dodgin' bullets again. At least we're hitting him some tonight.

[stpeteirish]

That would be a conservative estimate.

15 MPH headwind tonight. Oso Blanco can hit homers in this park indeed.

[Tapate50]

Julio got that bad mutha ****a stuff tonight...

[Hawk]

haha is Joe wearing a ying-yang beanie?

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/ivy_zps25aee65c.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/ivy_zps25aee65c.png.html)

[thethe]

LOL, Marlins beating the Nats tonight again.

[Tapate50]

LOL, Marlins beating the Nats tonight again.

Harper pulled a muscle choking on a ball or two.

[Hawk]

Damn, Julio is dealing.

[thethe]

That changeup.....

[TURBO]

Muahaha. I picked Utley in beat the streak. Get cursed!

[thewupk]

LOL, Marlins beating the Nats tonight again.

Jose Fernandez is really good

[Runnin]

Yuck

[Murphfan]

Cliff's scared of BJ.

[thethe]

Man, if we could ever get the 2008/2009 Beej...wow

[thethe]

Jose Fernandez is really good

Buh Buh Buh the Nats are the GOAT!

Not saying you were saying that but it was hysterical reading the same things this year that we read last year.

[Russ2dollas]

Last year's JT with this change up could make that long term deal look like a STEAL

Uggla hitting it hard to the right of CF...that is encouraging

[Hawk]

Well, enjoy that hit you fat, decrepit ****.

[mossy]

Eh, so what. We still have the lead.

[stpeteirish]

Last year's JT with this change up could make that long term deal look like a STEAL

Uggla hitting it hard to the right of CF...that is encouraging

Uggla hitting it anywhere, encouraging.

[thethe]

Man Julio is really economical tonight.

[thethe]

Eek, that changeup was not so good.

[thethe]

Lee is a good matchup for Gattis. Gattis does nothing but swing and Lee throws nothing but strikes.

[mossy]

A single for Evan? Underachieving.

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/cliffy_zps738be268.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/cliffy_zps738be268.png.html)

[jsebe10]

One thing I think that's being over looked through the success of our starting pitching so far this season is Gattis' calling of the games. He's done a fine job calling for pitches to mix things up and keep hitters off balance.

[Tapate50]

Best I've seen Julio look. Mixing it up very well, and the change is filthy.

[Murphfan]

Best I've seen Julio look. Mixing it up very well, and the change is filthy.Seems to be at his best when it's cold as crap.

[stpeteirish]

Best I've seen Julio look. Mixing it up very well, and the change is filthy.

66 pitches thru six. He could go 9 easily. Fredi can't use the "he didn't go thru spring training" BS with him

[jsebe10]

Ok so I'll ask it. If JT is at 85 pitches through 8, does Fredi run him out there for the 9th?

[sturg33]

Heyward looks awful

[sturg33]

Ok so I'll ask it. If JT is at 85 pitches through 8, does Fredi run him out there for the 9th?

He should, but he won't... unless it's not a "save situation"

[Murphfan]

Ok so I'll ask it. If JT is at 85 pitches through 8, does Fredi run him out there for the 9th?Bobby would. At least, he would until the first batter got on base.

[Murphfan]

I've never seen ANYONE make Free look so bad.

[thethe]

Gattis....

[jsebe10]

3-0 pitch and you produce that? Way to take the bat out of Johnson's hands.

[The Chosen One]

Gattis is the man lol

[jsebe10]

The freakn ump is starting to squeeze JT in the low zone.

[thethe]

Well done Julio. Well done...

[cajunrevenge]

If fredi takes Tehetan out of this game for anyone but Kimbrel I rage. Especially if its Walden.

[NinersSBChamps]

Just got home and it's the top of the 9th. Damn this game went fast.

[jsebe10]

Lol take ur pitcher out Sandberg. Good god.

[Heyward]

Tough move.

Keep Julio in or let Kimbrel close it.

I can see it either way.

[NinersSBChamps]

Time to move him from the lead off spot. Unbelievably bad.

[jpack1]

Wow Heyward is bad. What has happend to that guy. Terrible.

[jsebe10]

Time to move him from the lead off spot. Unbelievably bad.

Yup.

[Orphan Black]

Dang...125 pitches for Lee now

[jpack1]

J Hey is bordering on bring benched.

[cajunrevenge]

Getting tired of this **** Heywood.

[thethe]

Come on Jason. You put us over the edge as the best team in the league.

[bravesnumberone]

I hate wasting chances to score.

[NinersSBChamps]

Yup.

And I know the Braves have a good record when he bats lead off, but this season they are winning in spite of him.

[jpack1]

11 hits and one run. We had Lee on the ropes ll night.

Let's hope Julio can make it stand.

[Murphfan]

I'm thinking that you almost have to split BJ and Heyward up at this point.

[jpack1]

Heyward shows glimpses of brilliance but he has had long poor stretches in his career. Real long.

[NinersSBChamps]

Switch Simba and Heyward in the lineup. Hell BJ is a better option at this point.

[jsebe10]

And I know the Braves have a good record when he bats lead off, but this season they are winning in spite of him.

Only way he's helping us with the bat is when he walks. But he's been Striking out at an unbelievable rate

[stpeteirish]

Lol take ur pitcher out Sandberg. Good god.

Its only 127 pitches, why quibble.. First year mgr, bad bullpen. Good luck Cliff.

[jsebe10]

Switch Simba and Heyward in the lineup. Hell BJ is a better option at this point.

Simba yes....BJ sucks. I don't care what anyone says.

[thethe]

Like leaving Julio in here!

[Julio3000]

OK, I just got home.

In order:

Gattis. The ****?

JT. I've been as big a proponent of his as any. I think he's a baller. But a 2-hitter through 8 against Cliffie in Philadelphia? Cripes.

[NinersSBChamps]

Only way he's helping us with the bat is when he walks. But he's been Striking out at an unbelievable rate

Yeah, but he has more strikeouts than walks at this point. And his OBP is under .300 after tonight.

[The Chosen One]

Lets go Braves!! Game time

Welcome aboard.

[jsebe10]

Change up Gwynns ass to death.

[Murphfan]

I'm glad it's cold. Hopefully, everyone on their bench is freezing.

[NinersSBChamps]

Simba yes....BJ sucks. I don't care what anyone says.

Oh I agree, but right now Heyward is by far out worst hitter.

[bravesnumberone]

Good play, Owl.

[Murphfan]

DANNY.

[TURBO]

I'm glad it's cold. Hopefully, everyone on their bench is freezing.

But Fredi said he was hesitant to use Kimbrel because of the cold.

[NinersSBChamps]

Just hand Uggla the gold glove now!!!

[jpack1]

Good play Uggs

[Julio3000]

I am rooting for this kid so hard that it is physically painful.

[Murphfan]

But Fredi said he was hesitant to use Kimbrel because of the cold.I'd be hesitant to use Kimbrel for 3 other reasons before cold ever got in the conversation.

[bravesnumberone]

OK, one more, Julio.

[NinersSBChamps]

Ducking cannon!!!0

[jpack1]

One more. Simba is dam good.

[jsebe10]

Gotta be careful here to Rollins.

[bravesnumberone]

Oh, **** you, Jimmy Rollins.

[jpack1]

Dangit J Rol

[The Chosen One]

What's going on inning?

My car died halfway home. Waiting for towing company.

[jsebe10]

K be careful here to the guy who wears waaayyyy too much hair gel.

[Julio3000]

2 down, bottom 9, Rollins on first, Utley AB.

[bravesnumberone]

Forget the damn runner, Julio. Come on.

[jsebe10]

What's going on inning?

My car died halfway home. Waiting for towing company.

2 out bottom 9 Rollins on 1B and Utkey up.

[The Chosen One]

Julio at 110 pitches. No fredi bashing?

[Murphfan]

What's going on inning?

My car died halfway home. Waiting for towing company.Bot 9th, Rollins on, 2 out, Utley ab.

[jpack1]

JTs nerves are high right now

[jpack1]

Umps zone is tiny

[NinersSBChamps]

We lose and this game is on Jason.

[Murphfan]

Where the hell was that pitch?

[Murphfan]

Bot 9th, Rollins on, 2 out, Utley ab.Rollins steals 2nd, 3-1 to Utley, JT still trying to close it out.

[NinersSBChamps]

Gattis has such an awful arm.

[bravesnumberone]

JULIO!

[NinersSBChamps]

Whpopiook

[thethe]

JULIO!!!!

[Murphfan]

Rollins steals 2nd, 3-1 to Utley, JT still trying to close it out.Game over, Utley to 2nd ground out.

[jpack1]

One hell of an effort. That a boy Julio.

[Julio3000]

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff511/poinsett/84235576-69a8-489e-8ff4-315329bf1804_zps7d5d95d7.jpg

[jsebe10]

Weeew. Christ alive.

[Runnin]

Great game from the battery tonight.

[thethe]

Gattis has such an awful arm.

Are you serious? He has a canon. That was on the pitcher.

[Five]

Well done JT. Masterful.

[Julio3000]

I love that kid.

[TURBO]

http://li.c-b.co/is/image/LandOfNod/Letter_Giant_Enough_W_234214_LL/$web_zoom$&wid=550&hei=550&/1308310656/not-giant-enough-letter-w.jpg

[Krovahn]

Wow, Julio... Wow!

[jpack1]

Uggs with 2 good plays in the 9th. Sweet

[jsebe10]

Gattis has such an awful arm.

Not that bad. He stole that on Julio. Plus it was an off speed pitch.

[NinersSBChamps]

No matter what would have happened. I like the call of letting Julio finish this game. Kid was going to decide his own fate no matter what. I love it!

[Orphan Black]

Great job Julio...congrats on your first shutout.

[The Chosen One]

Julio is making huge strides so far this season already. Dueled cliff lee and pitched a vintage braves 1-0 shutout.

Bravo kid.

[zitothebrave]

Julio killed it today. Got to love it. Wish our offense was a bit better, but we faced CLiff Lee.

[jsebe10]

Good job by Fredi for having confidence to stick with the kid abd not play the lefty lefty match up.

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/Mobile%20Uploads/B67EAAD1-9722-4AA2-A4A3-7460BA837E7A_zpsha5qrmke.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B67EAAD1-9722-4AA2-A4A3-7460BA837E7A_zpsha5qrmke.png.html)

Another series win!

[pfiggy]

http://i58.tinypic.com/2h7phmd.jpg

[bravesnumberone]

Great job by Fredi letting the kid finish it. Hope that's the first of many down the road.

[AerchAngel]

Uggs with 2 good plays in the 9th. Sweet

He saved the game for us right there with those plays.

[Russ2dollas]

CJ and Gattis were the only reason that game didn't set a speed record for 9 innings.

[stpeteirish]

Great job by Fredi letting the kid finish it. Hope that's the first of many down the road.

yeah, if Kimbrel is off limits the only other guy you want out there is Julio, and Fredi managed to get it right.

[USMA76]

To beat Cliff Lee on a night with a 13 strikeout, complete game, in which he gives up one run...just wow!

[sturg33]

Kudos to Fredi for sticking with Julio...

Heyward's gotta get going. I won't be surprised to see him on the bench tomorrow, but I'd rather him get as many ABs in this park as possible

[NinersSBChamps]

Are you serious? He has a canon. That was on the pitcher.

He has thrown out 3/10 after the Rollins steal. Is every single one on the pitcher? How many throws has he airmailed over second base?

[mossy]

I'm out and about and ignorant. Was Kimbrel available if needed? Just curious about his status.

[Heyward]

Good win, Julio is good.

Probably should of scored more but Lee is a tough pitcher.

[Heyward]

I'm out and about and ignorant. Was Kimbrel available I needed? Just curious about his status.

He could of pitched if needed i believe.

[Julio3000]

Getting a shutount in Philly and beating Clifford is stealing one, no matter how you slice it. I love it.

[Russ2dollas]

He has thrown out 3/10 after the Rollins steal. Is every single one on the pitcher? How many throws has he airmailed over second base?

I don't question the arm....I question his ability to get to a throwing position and throw it accurately. He's a big guy. It's tough to get uncurled.

[The Chosen One]

He has thrown out 3/10 after the Rollins steal. Is every single one on the pitcher? How many throws has he airmailed over second base?

Most catchers throw out at a 33% range.

[rico43]

Fredi would not have used Kimbrel tonight. He was determined to hold him out one more day. A big plus for Fredi; a less secure manager would have panicked. say what you will; Fredi does not panic.

[Orphan Black]

He has thrown out 3/10 after the Rollins steal. Is every single one on the pitcher? How many throws has he airmailed over second base?

I thought 3/10 is pretty good for a catcher.

[jpack1]

3 of 10 is pretty average throwing out runners. Not bad at all. 40% is Yadi Molina territory. It's hard to throw out runners.

[Julio3000]

Staved off elimination one more day . . .

[TDlxANDER]

Chip and Joe look like they robbed a Men's Warehouse in those leather jackets.

[Julio3000]

3 of 10 is pretty average throwing out runners. Not bad at all. 40% is Yadi Molina territory. It's hard to throw out runners.

JRoll is a career 80+% sb guy. No shame there.

[NinersSBChamps]

Most catchers throw out at a 33% range.

So he is below average.

[Julio3000]

Chip and Joe look like they robbed a Men's Warehouse in those leather jackets.

Robbing a Men's Warehouse? That's just tuesday night for Chip.

[The Chosen One]

I'm thrilled with the Evolution of Evan Gattis. He may learn to start taking pitches unlike Hack Attack.

[AerchAngel]

No love for the owl and his magic glove tonight?

We need a owl gif to set this win in stone.

[Julio3000]

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff511/poinsett/a34a5822-2263-45fd-b4aa-9037948c70e5_zpsd1ab7069.jpg

[AerchAngel]

Okay win is complete, we see the owl.

Thanks Julio!!!

[AerchAngel]

Well, no game thread on Scout and no posts since yesterday morning. Wow, that is bad.

[Julio3000]

Anyone who isn't talking about JT is missing the boat, IMO.

[thethe]

Anyone who isn't talking about JT is missing the boat, IMO.

There was a reason the Braves never talked about trading him.

[thethe]

I'm thrilled with the Evolution of Evan Gattis. He may learn to start taking pitches unlike Hack Attack.

If you remember, Gattis is actually a failure.

[thewupk]

3 of 10 is pretty average throwing out runners. Not bad at all. 40% is Yadi Molina territory. It's hard to throw out runners.

And the least important part of catcher defense. Framing and blocking pitches >>>>>>> throwing out runners.

[The Chosen One]

Anyone who isn't talking about JT is missing the boat, IMO.

Well you're about 10 years late. John Thomson was a fine pitcher for us. Injuries are what held him back.

[mossy]

Perhaps I must give Julio more credit. I had Cliff Lee shutting us out 1-0.

I knew Julio was good, but this was impressive.

[thethe]

Gattis has a 1.135 OPS.

Thoughts Giles?

[The Chosen One]

I remember our fabulous 5 starting rotation headed into 2005 was

Smoltz - Hudson - Hampton - Thomson - Ramirez

[AerchAngel]

I remember our fabulous 5 starting rotation headed into 2005 was

Smoltz - Hudson - Hampton - Thomson - Ramirez

Horacio siting.

Time to shut the board down!!!!

[Krovahn]

What makes this all the more impressive, to me, was that Lee was on his game tonight. Both pitchers with complete games... doesn't happen often anymore.

[The Chosen One]

Horacio siting.

Time to shut the board down!!!!

If you told me 10 years later he was the guy from that list that's still a part of the team in 2014...

[AerchAngel]

If you told me 10 years later he was the guy from that list that's still a part of the team in 2014...

LMAO!!!

[Russ2dollas]

SSS with Gattis. HR is prob in out in at least 50% of parks, prob in ATL. 2 of the other 3 this were kinda junky (evens out IMO b/c he's crushed some outs earlier).

I like that he seems to be swinging at mostly strikes. He's not going to walk a lot, but I don't see him hacking at bad pitches as much.

You said it....this is the perfect spot for Gattis now. Pitcher who throws strikes all of the time and will challenge him in a tiny park.

[Mad Dog Murph]

SSS with Gattis. HR is prob in out in at least 50% of parks, prob in ATL. 2 of the other 3 this were kinda junky (evens out IMO b/c he's crushed some outs earlier).

I like that he seems to be swinging at mostly strikes. He's not going to walk a lot, but I don't see him hacking at bad pitches as much.

You said it....this is the perfect spot for Gattis now. Pitcher who throws strikes all of the time and will challenge him in a tiny park.

The wind was blowing in at 20mph.....that ball would have been 15 rows deep on a normal day and a HR in every single park in America. put down the weed.

[thethe]

SSS with Gattis. HR is prob in out in at least 50% of parks, prob in ATL. 2 of the other 3 this were kinda junky (evens out IMO b/c he's crushed some outs earlier).

I like that he seems to be swinging at mostly strikes. He's not going to walk a lot, but I don't see him hacking at bad pitches as much.

You said it....this is the perfect spot for Gattis now. Pitcher who throws strikes all of the time and will challenge him in a tiny park.

The wind was killing the ball tonight. On a normal night that ball he hit tonight is 10 rows in. But, he still clearly has major flaws. His power is just awesome though.

[Krovahn]

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 44m
Cliff Lee: 1st pitcher to strike out 13 in a 1-0 loss since ... Cliff Lee did it against the Braves last season

[Hawk]

Ks aint no thang.

[thewupk]

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 44m
Cliff Lee: 1st pitcher to strike out 13 in a 1-0 loss since ... Cliff Lee did it against the Braves last season

owned

[Russ2dollas]

Amazing to see us win w/o getting much of anything from our first 4 hitters.

Wonder if Heyward and BJ will break out the bunts to see if Burnett can field his position with the back issues.

[thewupk]

J Hey is bordering on bring benched.

After two weeks? Yeah he's not getting many hits right now but his 167 BABIP is horribad and has nowhere to go but up. Also Heyward is among the elite defensively in the outfield and should stay in the lineup for that reason alone. I would say he needs to go lower in the lineup if he doesn't get it going by the weekend.

[Heyward]

What makes this all the more impressive, to me, was that Lee was on his game tonight. Both pitchers with complete games... doesn't happen often anymore.

I didnt see the game but giving up 10-11 hits isnt great, no?

Or maybe some of his was bad luck given the weather.

:Bunchie1:

[Julio3000]

Well you're about 10 years late. John Thomson was a fine pitcher for us. Injuries are what held him back.

Niiiiice.

I just can't bring myself to call him Julio. It feels . . . weird.

[Julio3000]

I didnt see the game but giving up 10-11 hits isnt great, no?

Or maybe some of his was bad luck given the weather.

:Bunchie1:

Ray Knight blames the umpires and MLB.

[Heyward]

Regards to Heyward.

No way you bench him, but it wouldnt be a bad idea to give him the day-off to clear his head.

[bravesnumberone]

A day off wouldn't hurt at all. But if he doesn't get it going soon, he doesn't need to hit leadoff much longer.

[Heyward]

A day off wouldn't hurt at all. But if he doesn't get it going soon, he doesn't need to hit leadoff much longer.

Who do you hit first, Simba/BJ?

[Heyward]

I'd try this vs Burnett, dont think it happens though.

Simmons, SS.
BJ, CF.
FF, 1B.
JUp, RF.
CJ, 3B.
Uggla, 2B.
Pastornicky, LF.
Laird, C.
Wood, P.

[bravesnumberone]

Who do you hit first, Simba/BJ?

Probably Simmons, though it may not be ideal. Can't have a guy hitting as bad as Heyward there for too long, though. I am optimistic he'll turn it around sooner than later.

[Krovahn]

I didnt see the game but giving up 10-11 hits isnt great, no?

Or maybe some of his was bad luck given the weather.

:Bunchie1:
Meh, that many hits aren't great... but, at the same time 13 Ks to 1 walk, complete game, and the only extra base hit was the HR Gattis hit. I consider it a very good outing for him; which makes Julio's outing look all the better.

[sturg33]

Surely Fredi wouldn't drop Heyward before dropping BJ in the lineup

[jpack1]

Hey wards BABIP is low and is going to continue to be low until he quits rolling over half his balls in play to 2B. He needs to figure out the hitter he was when he first came up and start the hitting the ball the other way like he used to. If he continues to try to pull everything g and hit weak ground balls to 2B he will have a low BABIP forever.

[Hawk]

I wonder when we start blaming Heyward's poor offensive performance on the jaw protector.

[sturg33]

Julio Teheran became first visiting pitcher to hurl a shutout – no matter number of hits allowed – at Citizens Bank Park.

[jcc03004]

I remember our fabulous 5 starting rotation headed into 2005 was

Smoltz - Hudson - Hampton - Thomson - Ramirez

Wasn't Paul Byrd supposed to be apart of that rotation it's funny at the time we thought this rotation was actually going to be good. Remember Montreal was willing to trade us javy for horacio js turned them down lmao

[Enscheff]

Hey wards BABIP is low and is going to continue to be low until he quits rolling over half his balls in play to 2B. He needs to figure out the hitter he was when he first came up and start the hitting the ball the other way like he used to. If he continues to try to pull everything g and hit weak ground balls to 2B he will have a low BABIP forever.

When you stand 4 feet off the plate and then try to pull anything but the most inside pitches, all you can do is hit weak grounders to the pull side. Heyward's weakness has always been pitches in under his hands, so it looks like he backs farther and farther off the plate to compensate. Then he tries to pull pitches down the middle/away, and the weak contact ensues.

He did line out to 3rd a couple days ago, which I thought was a good sign, but it appears now it wasn't intentional.

[The Chosen One]

Wasn't Paul Byrd supposed to be apart of that rotation it's funny at the time we thought this rotation was actually going to be good. Remember Montreal was willing to trade us javy for horacio js turned them down lmao

Don't think so. We acquired Byrd in 2003 he has TJ and only pitched sparingly for us in 2004.

[Braves1976]

Great game by Julio Teheran and Evan Gattis last night. Good to see Teheran get his first complete game, hopefully more to come. Also great to see Gattis stay hot and have his first career 4 hit game including the game winning homer. I didn't know if anyone would hit a homer given the wind last night. But Gattis is a strong man who can hit it out even with such conditions.

Hopefully Wood wins today and we complete the sweep.

[Heyward]

I wonder when we start blaming Heyward's poor offensive performance on the jaw protector.

I think it plays a part.

He was en fuego before getting hit with the pitch, now he's been struggling with it ever since.

[Slippyjms]

I think it plays a part.

He was en fuego before getting hit with the pitch, now he's been struggling with it ever since.

Seriously???