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sturg33
04-17-2014, 09:51 AM
Braves

Heyward 9
B. Upton 8
Freeman 3
J. Upton 7
Johnson 5
Uggla 4
Simmons 6
Laird 2
Wood 1

Phils

WHO CARES??? Wood is going to rise up and **** them for the sweep

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 09:57 AM
Why is Laird/Fredi batting 8th? That's crazy. Laird/Fredi's gonna destroy his self-confidence.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 10:05 AM
Keep it up Sturg!!!!!!

gilesfan
04-17-2014, 10:08 AM
Fredi, Fredi, Fredi. Look here. You have a guy that has 5 homers in 24 at bats in Philly. same guy has 20 homers in 367 ABs everywhere else.

THink you may want to play him everyday in Philly? No?

thethe
04-17-2014, 10:10 AM
Fredi, Fredi, Fredi. Look here. You have a guy that has 5 homers in 24 at bats in Philly. same guy has 20 homers in 367 ABs everywhere else.

THink you may want to play him everyday in Philly? No?

Makes no sense.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 10:18 AM
Fredi doing the right thing. Gattis has sore knees. And, he can still pinch hit if needed. Great to have that weapon on the bench late...bottom line, it is a long season and Gattis will need a lot of days off.

thethe
04-17-2014, 10:20 AM
Fredi doing the right thing. Gattis has sore knees. And, he can still pinch hit if needed. Great to have that weapon on the bench late...bottom line, it is a long season and Gattis will need a lot of days off.

Where did you get information that he has sore knees?

gilesfan
04-17-2014, 10:20 AM
Fredi doing the right thing. Gattis has sore knees. And, he can still pinch hit if needed. Great to have that weapon on the bench late...bottom line, it is a long season and Gattis will need a lot of days off.


Then give him some time off in larger parks where he tends to struggle hitting.

Enscheff
04-17-2014, 10:26 AM
Since when is it not commonplace to sit your catcher in a day game after a night game?

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 10:27 AM
Since when is it not commonplace to sit your catcher in a day game after a night game?

Good point. Laird/Fredi knows what he is doing. Except for the part about batting himself eighth, which we can probably chalk down to an excess of modesty.

50PoundHead
04-17-2014, 10:27 AM
Nothing really new here. Day game after a night game often means previous night's catcher catches a break. Still there for late inning maneuvers.

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 10:29 AM
Also Gattis spent a lot of time on the base paths last night. All the more reason to give his legs a rest.

The Chosen One
04-17-2014, 10:31 AM
Some here said we need to ride Gattis hard like Wood.

My only caveat is Gattis had a day off on Tuesday.

gilesfan
04-17-2014, 10:34 AM
Nothing really new here. Day game after a night game often means previous night's catcher catches a break. Still there for late inning maneuvers.

Certainly nothing new. I would run him out again and sit him tommorrow. The guy has shown that he can take advantage of the short porches in Philly so I would run him out there again and sit him tomorrow night, which essentially gives him 1.5 days rest.

And its Aj Burnett! Should be able to hit 3-4 homers off him.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 10:37 AM
Fredi is an "old-school" manager who is incapable of thinking outside of the old-school philosophy.

Braves1976
04-17-2014, 10:38 AM
Since Gattis was off Sunday and Tues. I'd started him today too given his success in Philly, etc. Laird has already caught two of Harang's starts, so I'd just waited to start Laird on Friday.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 10:39 AM
Plus last night was a very fast game, and Gattis wasn't out there very long in each inning.

The Chosen One
04-17-2014, 10:39 AM
Fredi is an "old-school" manager who is incapable of thinking outside of the old-school philosophy.

Which is exactly why he moved Jason to Leadoff and CJ was our cleanup hitter.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 10:41 AM
Which is exactly why he moved Jason to Leadoff and CJ was our cleanup hitter.

He did move Heyward to leadoff... In freakin July when it was obviousl to the entire world he was our best option. Half the posters here (myself included) were begging for that to happen in April.

But he had to go conventional and bat guys like AS and BJ because, that's what is used to be like

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 10:42 AM
Put Gattis in left, Justin moves to right, and Laird should catch.

Teheran_49
04-17-2014, 10:47 AM
Braves

Heyward 9
B. Upton 8
Freeman 3
J. Upton 7
Johnson 5
Uggla 4
Simmons 6
Laird 2
Wood 1

Phils

WHO CARES??? Wood is going to (Chop country - list your best Wood pun and I will update this with the winner!)


Rise up....

gilesfan
04-17-2014, 10:48 AM
Which is exactly why he moved Jason to Leadoff .

Where else you gonna put a .180 hitter?

stpeteirish
04-17-2014, 10:52 AM
Put Gattis in left, Justin moves to right, and Laird should catch.

having seen Gattis play left, I'd rest him if he shouldn't catch. He'd need a 3 RBI day to breakeven.

Braves1976
04-17-2014, 11:05 AM
having seen Gattis play left, I'd rest him if he shouldn't catch. He'd need a 3 RBI day to breakeven.

Gattis is bad defensively in the outfield, but have you seen Doumit? At best he's no better and 50 might argue that he's worse. That said, I do agree that he should either catch or rest. Gattis himself said it was hard going back and forth from catcher to outfield and that he prefers catching. So as long as he's our starting catcher I'd mostly use him there. I'd probably be more willing to use him at first when Freeman needs a day off than in the outfield again.

jpx7
04-17-2014, 11:09 AM
Burnett has struggled in his career against the Braves (10-4), going 5-12 with a 4.14 ERA in 21 appearances and losing seven of his last eight decisions.

He's had trouble with Gerald Laird (5 for 8)

http://i.imgur.com/G7MNlxt.jpg

stpeteirish
04-17-2014, 11:10 AM
Phils resting Howard and Ruiz and using their 3rd 3b in three days, Nix. Apears they are still looking for an everyday 3b. They ought to call Placido Polanco. (only half joking there)

Heyward
04-17-2014, 11:30 AM
Fredi, Fredi, Fredi. Look here. You have a guy that has 5 homers in 24 at bats in Philly. same guy has 20 homers in 367 ABs everywhere else.

THink you may want to play him everyday in Philly? No?

We dont have an off-day for awhile, i know we technically had one on Tue.

But day game after night game, makes sense, was planned ahead.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 11:32 AM
Our next scheduled off-day might be Thursday, so i dont see the huge deal with sitting Gattis, but he is scorching hot right now with the bat.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 11:47 AM
Phils

WHO CARES??? Wood is going to (Chop country - list your best Wood pun and I will update this with the winner!)

You guys really let me down here... Going to go update

Slippyjms
04-17-2014, 11:53 AM
You guys really let me down here... Going to go update

Wood is going to rub up the ball and go hard?

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 11:56 AM
Wood is going to penetrate hard, long, and deep. And when it's over, you'll have a smile plastered all over your face.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 11:57 AM
Wood is going to penetrate hard, long, and deep. And when it's over, you'll have a smile plastered all over your face.

That's hot.

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 11:57 AM
aye

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 11:58 AM
Where did you get information that he has sore knees?

This is common knowledge. They talked about it all spring. This is why we have three catchers.

DirkPiggler
04-17-2014, 11:58 AM
Wood will never get past a two ball count for any hitter.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 11:58 AM
Wood is going to penetrate hard, long, and deep. And when it's over, you'll have a smile plastered all over your face.

Uh oh

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:02 PM
Game time. Just poured up a tall one, broom is ready. Good firm wood ready to explode.

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 12:05 PM
Laird/Fredi gonna have a huge game.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:07 PM
AJ Burnett is the medicine that Jason needs.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:09 PM
Well, maybe not.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 12:11 PM
The joys of working remotely:

http://i.imgur.com/wfC94PUl.jpg

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:13 PM
Me too Hawk! Me too...

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:15 PM
Don't know that I have ever seen Freeman take off from first before....didn't work out, but BJ looked miles better at the plate....

sturg33
04-17-2014, 12:16 PM
Well that first inning sucked

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:19 PM
Gold Glove for Freddie!!!!!

Hawk
04-17-2014, 12:19 PM
Nice work Frederick.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 12:25 PM
Maybe another 0-4 game will get Jason out of the lead off spot.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:25 PM
Good K for Wood there. I suspect he will settle in now and roll. Key was getting out the first, and did that. Now let's get some runs. Be patient, and AJ will walk 'em full.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 12:28 PM
Maybe another 0-4 game will get Jason out of the lead off spot.

If Heyward is moved before BJ I will drive to ATL and punch Fredi in the face

Teheran_49
04-17-2014, 12:32 PM
I won I won, what's my prize?

rico43
04-17-2014, 12:33 PM
Heyward swinging at Burnett's first pitch, given his control problems, tells me that he is currently playing with his head up his a**. A day off would be great, except that Schafer is also in the tank right now. We need to demote Schlosser and call up Constanza or JoeyT. Assuming Avilan is OK.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 12:34 PM
Good AB by Simmons, all things considered.

jpx7
04-17-2014, 12:34 PM
Maybe another 0-4 game will get Jason out of the lead off spot.

Why would you hope for that?

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:35 PM
Good AB by Simmons, all things considered.

Yep. Need to burn AJs pitch count. That said, Simba got a break. He clearly went.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 12:39 PM
8 pitches, 8 strikes, inning over -- HARD WOOD.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 12:39 PM
First one to score wins again today.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:39 PM
Dirty, Filthy, hard Wood.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 12:40 PM
Why would you hope for that?

He is the worst hitter on the team right now.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:40 PM
First one to score wins again today.

No. We will blister AJ. He is on borrowed time.

jpx7
04-17-2014, 12:44 PM
He is the worst hitter on the team right now.

Please.

Also: that has nothing to do with your forecasting bad future results in the hopes it effects some change. Why not say, "I hope Heyward breaks out of it and returns to being an awesome leadoff option, like he was for several months last year prior to being beaned in the face."?

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 12:44 PM
My guess is McCann for trivia question.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 12:47 PM
I was hoping to hear:

'Wood with a hard liner up the middle.'

But I'll take the BB.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 12:51 PM
BJ Upton ... finally. So good to see him hitting.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 12:54 PM
Damn, would of been nice to get on the board.

Got AJ's PC up a little bit though.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:54 PM
BJ Upton ... finally. So good to see him hitting.

No kidding. If he can get going we are a machine.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 12:56 PM
Overall, good inning. Got the pitch count up nicely, and got Alex some rest after the walk. Plus, BJ got a hit and some more confidence in his new swing.
Alex is dealing.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 12:59 PM
Burnett with a hit. Make him run!

The Chosen One
04-17-2014, 01:00 PM
DP for Wood.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 01:00 PM
DP for Wood.

Wood likes DP'ing.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 01:02 PM
Hahaha. ....he didn't exactly run much. Now it's time to eat his lunch. If we can be patient, he may not make it out of the 4th.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 01:03 PM
That dude having a red wine for lunch. Pure awesomeness.

thethe
04-17-2014, 01:03 PM
It would really be nice to have Gattis in the lineup.

The Chosen One
04-17-2014, 01:05 PM
That dude having a red wine for lunch. Pure awesomeness.

Was he wearing jean shorts?

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:05 PM
Justin gets blown away from a 91 mph fast ball.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 01:09 PM
1-2-3 in the 4th.

However, 72 pitches through 4.

jpx7
04-17-2014, 01:15 PM
Justin gets blown away from a 91 mph fast ball.

Why does it seem that all your incessantly negative posts always conspicuously concern the Uptons and Heyward?

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:16 PM
Why does it seem that all your incessantly negative posts always conspicuously concern the Uptons and Heyward?

I hope you aren't serious.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:17 PM
Love watching Simmons play defense.

jpx7
04-17-2014, 01:21 PM
I hope you aren't serious.

I'm not imputing a reason: just noting a trend.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:22 PM
Wow Simba is a magician!!

Hawk
04-17-2014, 01:23 PM
Interesting challenge.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 01:23 PM
He's out.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 01:24 PM
He's safe

sturg33
04-17-2014, 01:25 PM
Why does it seem that all your incessantly negative posts always conspicuously concern the Uptons and Heyward?

Hank Aaron has an opinion

Heyward
04-17-2014, 01:25 PM
He's out.

Good call.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 01:25 PM
He did look out.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 01:25 PM
Good job by umps on that.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 01:26 PM
Good call.

I wasn't watching. But you're 90% wrong so figured what the hell

Russ2dollas
04-17-2014, 01:27 PM
safe then safe then out.....kept coming off the bag

Heyward
04-17-2014, 01:27 PM
I wasn't watching. But you're 90% wrong so figured what the hell

Nope.

Rollins got him just before Simmons got his hand back to the bag, right call obviously.

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 01:27 PM
I wasn't watching. But you're 90% wrong so figured what the hell

Hahaahahaahahhaahaha

sturg33
04-17-2014, 01:28 PM
Stupid of Simmons to run with pitcher on deck... Could've just been bunted over

Braves1976
04-17-2014, 01:28 PM
Nope.

Rollins got him just before Simmons got his hand back to the bag, right call obviously.

Actually it was safe, safe and then out because his hand came off again. Great dodge initially though, oh well.

Braves1976
04-17-2014, 01:30 PM
Stupid of Simmons to run with pitcher on deck... Could've just been bunted over

It may have been a hit and run play, Laird struck out though so no contact. If it was a straight steal I agree though.

Note, I am not saying I agree with calling a hit and run there. I am just saying if so not on Simmons, that's all.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:33 PM
Worst thing is that we didn't clear Jason that inning.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 01:33 PM
Another brilliant inning by Wood.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:33 PM
Freddie is gonna sock one this inning.

The Chosen One
04-17-2014, 01:34 PM
Solid Wood.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 01:34 PM
Worst thing is that we didn't clear Jason that inning.

C'mon man... he needs some positive mojo.

I'm calling a double to leadoff this inning. If I'm wrong. Then **** him

Hulavol
04-17-2014, 01:35 PM
Wood is flat dealing. Now we need Jason to bomb one.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:36 PM
Lol he hasn't gotten the ball out of the infield the whole series.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 01:36 PM
Jason :facepalm:

Somebody get Chipper on the horn.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 01:36 PM
C'mon man... he needs some positive mojo.

I'm calling a double to leadoff this inning. If I'm wrong. Then **** him

**** him

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:37 PM
And Jason should go up to bat tomorrow night with a football helmet on with a dark visor.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:37 PM
**** him

You are a man of your word.

TDlxANDER
04-17-2014, 01:38 PM
Haven't made good contact off Burnett all day.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:40 PM
Freddie is gonna sock one this inning.

Bingo

sturg33
04-17-2014, 01:40 PM
Freddie is gonna sock one this inning.

"Socked to right!"

/Chip

Heyward
04-17-2014, 01:42 PM
Looks like the team is sleep-walking through this game :Sad:

Heyward
04-17-2014, 01:42 PM
Lol he hasn't gotten the ball out of the infield the whole series.

Game 1 he did.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:42 PM
Game 1 he did.

Chip said otherwise.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 01:43 PM
The rainout took our offensive mojo away

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:43 PM
Out Wood really needs to be lifted up.

The Chosen One
04-17-2014, 01:43 PM
Chip said otherwise.

You actually believe what Chip says?

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:44 PM
You actually believe what Chip says?

I take it with a grain of salt.

At least Chip assured me it was salt...

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 01:45 PM
Wood and Teheran. Nice ring to it.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 01:45 PM
Chip said otherwise.

Pretty sure he hit a leadoff single in the outfield.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 01:45 PM
lol Uggla.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:46 PM
Oh Danny boy. He's amusing to watch.

jpx7
04-17-2014, 01:46 PM
Chip said otherwise.

You trust him? Chip was staring lustfully at the chalk-lines the whole time.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 01:46 PM
Owl.

Russ2dollas
04-17-2014, 01:46 PM
so is freddie just wanting the game to go fast? we'll just PH Gattis in the 9th and get our 1 run we need :)

The Chosen One
04-17-2014, 01:47 PM
Tunnel vision hurt Owl.

Russ2dollas
04-17-2014, 01:47 PM
bj and heyward should be bunting to make the bad back bend and pick up the ball

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:49 PM
Pretty sure he hit a leadoff single in the outfield.

He had a base hit in game one. Don't know where it was hit.

Russ2dollas
04-17-2014, 01:50 PM
nifty play by FF there......really underrated defensive player IMO

TURBO
04-17-2014, 01:52 PM
Freddie has a strong arm for a 1st basemen.

jpx7
04-17-2014, 01:54 PM
I would like the Braves to score soon—preferably before and/or more than the other team does.

DaneHill
04-17-2014, 01:56 PM
1st strike out of the season for Simmons?

Heyward
04-17-2014, 01:56 PM
nifty play by FF there......really underrated defensive player IMO

He isnt very good defensively, according to most on here :Bunchie1:

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 01:57 PM
I would like the Braves to score soon—preferably before and/or more than the other team does.

I would like that too.

stpeteirish
04-17-2014, 01:58 PM
yeah, put Gattis in, get this game over with. Pinch hit for Laird, not Wood.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:58 PM
Freddie has a strong arm for a 1st basemen.

Look at your fantasy team please.

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 01:58 PM
Freddie has a strong arm for a 1st basemen.

Pitched in high school. Some teams thought about drafting him as a pitcher.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 01:59 PM
I know he's a Phillies player, but Utley is really fun to watch. Plays the game the right way. For baseball's sake I hope he can stay healthy.

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 01:59 PM
That knuckle curve has made a big difference for Wood.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:02 PM
Wonder if we will PH for Wood... only at 80 pitches

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:03 PM
Wonder if we will PH for Wood... only at 80 pitches

No Kimbrel again today? I don't trust anyone else in the bullpen.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:04 PM
That damn Bastardo is in.

Russ2dollas
04-17-2014, 02:04 PM
Maybe it was watching Maholm....but it seems like all of our starting pitchers are just pounding the zone. Guess McDowell has convinced them they have the stuff to pitch in the zone? Or maybe Santana is wearing off on them? Or we don't respect the lineups we are seeing now?

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 02:05 PM
9 groundouts, 1 flyout by Wood

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:05 PM
Laird with a double.

TURBO
04-17-2014, 02:05 PM
Look at your fantasy team please.

I saw it. But why would I make that trade?

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:05 PM
Run for Laird?

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 02:06 PM
Laird/Fredi!

Wood bunts him over.

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 02:06 PM
Run for Laird?

He's one of the faster guys on the team. Deceptive speed.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:06 PM
Gonna be tough to bunt

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:06 PM
Don't understand not pinch running for Laird.

TDlxANDER
04-17-2014, 02:07 PM
Wood not even close on the bunt attempts

TURBO
04-17-2014, 02:07 PM
I would have pinched Run for Laird

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:07 PM
Gonna be tough to bunt

Right again, what else is new.

Hawk
04-17-2014, 02:07 PM
Weak bunt attempt. WOODKILL.

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 02:08 PM
Not good Wood

TDlxANDER
04-17-2014, 02:08 PM
Need Laird to swipe 3b here...

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:08 PM
Don't understand not pinch running for Laird.

Agreed. Dumb

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:08 PM
Laird would have been toast anyway.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:08 PM
Heyward smokes that, but right at the RF'er, smh.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:09 PM
Heyward smokes that, but right at the RF'er, smh.

He made it to the outfield!!

gilesfan
04-17-2014, 02:11 PM
Cmon BeeeeJ, .200 is within sights

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:11 PM
Cmon BeeeeJ, .200 is within sights

And after the weekend Jason will be close to half that.

jpx7
04-17-2014, 02:13 PM
And after the weekend Jason will be close to half that.

Just stop.

TDlxANDER
04-17-2014, 02:13 PM
Hopefully Wood doesn't let his crappy ab get to him on the mound

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:14 PM
At least Heyward has made solid contact today... Baby steps

BJ in the two hole strikes again

stpeteirish
04-17-2014, 02:14 PM
get the bunt down and you're up 1-0.

yeezus
04-17-2014, 02:15 PM
At least Heyward has made solid contact today... Baby steps

BJ in the two hole strikes again

YUP

jpx7
04-17-2014, 02:15 PM
get the bunt down and you're up 1-0.

The bunting issues of this team are painfully confounding. It's remedial ****.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:16 PM
"Brown squirts"

TDlxANDER
04-17-2014, 02:19 PM
"Brown squirts"

Chip's not racist...he has black friends.

sentenza
04-17-2014, 02:19 PM
With sacs you will win games!

stpeteirish
04-17-2014, 02:20 PM
I don't get using Howard here. Its the same pitcher you didn't want to start him against.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:20 PM
No guarantee Laird ass scores on that ball to right field. However at this point I will take whatever we could get.

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 02:22 PM
Weird using Howard to pinch hit against a lefty.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:23 PM
More scared of Revere here than Howard.

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 02:24 PM
Amazing they let Fransden go with that bench.

TURBO
04-17-2014, 02:25 PM
Like that they have used a bit of their bench here.. This game may go extras.

edit: maybe not

TDlxANDER
04-17-2014, 02:25 PM
Sucky way to lose...should've gone at Howard

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:25 PM
How to lose a game in one inning. Alex Wood has a PHD.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:25 PM
Well crap.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:26 PM
Everyone will say I'm "second guessing", but I was telling my friend how dumb it was not to pinch hit for Wood after the lead off double. Give your team 3 chances to get the run in.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:26 PM
How to lose a game in one inning. Alex Wood has a PHD.

He pitched a great game, not his fault the offense was dogcrap.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:27 PM
Everyone will say I'm "second guessing", but I was telling my friend how dumb it was not to pinch hit for Wood after the lead off double. Give your team 3 chances to get the run in.

And bring in who, Carp?

If he gets the bunt down, the game is tied.

He was around 80-85 pitches through 7, it was the right move.

AerchAngel
04-17-2014, 02:27 PM
Everyone will say I'm "second guessing", but I was telling my friend how dumb it was not to pinch hit for Wood after the lead off double. Give your team 3 chances to get the run in.

We would had a 2 run lead if the bear was unleashed in that spot.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:27 PM
At least we cleared Heyward and Upton

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:28 PM
He pitched a great game, not his fault the offense was dogcrap.

His fault he failed to get a bunt down. Also his fault Brown reached and then pitching around Howard was why we lost.

sentenza
04-17-2014, 02:28 PM
Why we can't sacrife Laird to 3rd an inning before? The Phills just show us how it works.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:28 PM
And bring in who, Carp?

Sure. Or Avilan. Or Kimbrel. Or Walden.

Since when do we not trust our bullpen in close games? A fresh bullpen is almost always more effective than a starter in the 8th inning

chopdrew
04-17-2014, 02:29 PM
Why we can't sacrife Laird to 3rd an inning before? The Phills just show us how it works.

Alex Wood is a terrible bunter. You could've pinch-hit Harang to lay one down. I'd have done that AND pinch run for Laird...

Russ2dollas
04-17-2014, 02:29 PM
pitching around howard was a mistake...he's a K waiting to happen.

Well JP isn't anything special. Get that run here.

50PoundHead
04-17-2014, 02:30 PM
I've just been following on Gameday. Couldn't figure out why Gonzalez left Wood out there. I'm with sturg33 on the fresh bullpen argument.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:30 PM
JUpton is gonna get it done this inning

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:30 PM
Sure. Or Avilan. Or Kimbrel. Or Walden.

Since when do we not trust our bullpen in close games? A fresh bullpen is almost always more effective than a starter in the 8th inning

Sure but not like his pitch-count was real high.

I would of gone Walden for the 8th if they hit for him.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:31 PM
I would be happy to leave Wood in if there was no scoring opportunity. But we had a great one and should have used Gattis

TURBO
04-17-2014, 02:31 PM
JUpton is gonna get it done this inning

I picked him in beat the streak too.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:32 PM
His fault he failed to get a bunt down. Also his fault Brown reached and then pitching around Howard was why we lost.

The bunt, yes.

They shifted on Brown, if they play standard D, he's out.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:32 PM
Damn, Freeman just got under that.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:33 PM
Execution of these type of things is crucial. Everything is magnified in the post season. It's stuff like today among other things why the Braves can't win.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:35 PM
I would be happy to leave Wood in if there was no scoring opportunity. But we had a great one and should have used Gattis

Yep this is a typical Fredi loss. Our hottest hitter doesn't get a plate appearance in 1-0 game? That would be like not brining in Kimbrel to nail down a game in the playoffs...oh wait.

TDlxANDER
04-17-2014, 02:35 PM
This team just refuses to take walks...

jpx7
04-17-2014, 02:35 PM
It's stuff like today among other things why the Braves can't win.

Why pay so much attention if you're so utterly sure the Braves can't win?

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:36 PM
Better LATE than never.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:37 PM
Why pay so much attention if you're so utterly sure the Braves can't win?

Well they can't win in the post season for 13 years. Maybe they will figure it out this year?

thethe
04-17-2014, 02:37 PM
Unreal that Gattis doesn't get a plate appearance in this ballpark down 1 run. Ugh....,

Braves1976
04-17-2014, 02:37 PM
No Gattis today, figures. Wasted great pitching by Wood again.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:37 PM
Solid AB by Chris Johnson there

TDlxANDER
04-17-2014, 02:37 PM
Tough game to lose...oh well, took 2 out of 3. Gotta find a way to beat the Mets now.

pfiggy
04-17-2014, 02:37 PM
Cheeses, bend over pfor Papelbum why doncha??

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:39 PM
Again - I just can't understand how Fredi doesn't pinch hit with a man on second and nobody out, with a completely rested bullpen.

jpx7
04-17-2014, 02:39 PM
Maybe they will figure it out this year?

Maybe.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:39 PM
Tough loss, hard to win if you cant score.

8 innings, 1 run.

Cant really ask for much more from your SP.

thethe
04-17-2014, 02:40 PM
Again - I just can't understand how Fredi doesn't pinch hit with a man on second and nobody out, with a completely rested bullpen.

At this point you don't understand it? After everything we have seen from him?

gilesfan
04-17-2014, 02:40 PM
Hope Gattis feels fresh for tomorrow!

Braves1976
04-17-2014, 02:41 PM
Again - I just can't understand how Fredi doesn't pinch hit with a man on second and nobody out, with a completely rested bullpen.

Plus bring in Schafer to pinch run for that matter, we are carrying three catchers so why not. I rather use Doumit an inning than a full game.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:41 PM
At this point you don't understand it? After everything we have seen from him?

Well I have to be careful so KL doesn't ban me

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:42 PM
Plus bring in Schafer to pinch run for that matter, we are carrying three catchers so why not. I rather use Doumit an inning than a full game.

Yeah, the right play is to pinch run there and pinch hit.

Fredi did neither

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:42 PM
No Gattis today, figures. Wasted great pitching by Wood again.

Gattis would of been the difference in 0 runs and 1-2 runs?

jsebe10
04-17-2014, 02:42 PM
Tough loss, hard to win if you cant score.

8 innings, 1 run.

Cant really ask for much more from your SP.

Shiiiiiiiit. 1 run in the past 18 innings. Bad bad bad baseball

gilesfan
04-17-2014, 02:43 PM
Gattis would of been the difference in 0 runs and 1-2 runs?


Just a question, how many runs do you get if you hit a homer? What about if there is a runner on base when you hit a homer?

thethe
04-17-2014, 02:43 PM
Gattis would of been the difference in 0 runs and 1-2 runs?

Are you actually asking this question in a serious manner?

Tapate50
04-17-2014, 02:44 PM
Hope Gattis feels fresh for tomorrow!

No joke. Really a no brainer to play him today.

NinersSBChamps
04-17-2014, 02:44 PM
Gattis would of been the difference in 0 runs and 1-2 runs?

I will take my chances with Gattis over anyone on team attempting to get a bunt down.

jsebe10
04-17-2014, 02:45 PM
I don't care, Wood fcked himself. Get the bunt down and quit standing up there like a screwed pu$$y waving at the ball. No excuse in that piss poor AB.

jason27nc
04-17-2014, 02:46 PM
This loss is on the manager in so many ways! Where do we start? Playing Hayward right now is stupid. Give the guy a day off or move him out of the leadoff spot. 2nd when its a 0-0 game that late in the game you have to score that run from 2nd. Letting Wood hit for himself there is one of the worst coaching moves ever. That guy has to be moved to 3rd. So I guess your leaving Wood in to give up the eventual winning run in the bottom of that inning. We will never win in the post season with him and I wish we could get someone in here that knows how to freaking manage.

Oh and last but not least he didn't play the hottest player in the world right now. UNREAL!!!

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:46 PM
Just a question, how many runs do you get if you hit a homer? What about if there is a runner on base when you hit a homer?

You get 1 with a HR.

And 2 with a runner on base.

It's no lock Gattis hits a HR today.

gilesfan
04-17-2014, 02:47 PM
You get 1 with a HR.

And 2 with a runner on base.

It's no lock Gattis hits a HR today.

Its no lock that Freeman gets a hit, but do you take your chances with him over a pitcher? Or Laird?

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:47 PM
Are you actually asking this question in a serious manner?

Yes, we had 3 or 4 hits off Burnett.

It's hardly a lock he gets a hit/HR off Burnett.

It's a 162-game season, your catcher cant play every game.

Day game after night game, pretty easy decision to make.

Braves1976
04-17-2014, 02:48 PM
Gattis has 5 homers in his last three games in Philly. It's crazy not to even give him an AB today, IMO. Fredi quoted Bobby Cox in not using Gattis today saying he's a weapon I can bring in at any time. What good is a weapon that you never use? Talk means nothing without action behind it.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:48 PM
Its no lock that Freeman gets a hit, but do you take your chances with him over a pitcher? Or Laird?

Freeman had runners on base and didnt score them, but Gattis would, got it.

If you're saying hit Gattis for Wood, sure.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:49 PM
Yes, we had 3 or 4 hits off Burnett.

It's hardly a lock he gets a hit/HR off Burnett.

It's a 162-game season, your catcher cant play every game.

Day game after night game, pretty easy decision to make.

Gattis has now rested in 3 of the last 5 days

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:49 PM
Freeman had runners on base and didnt score them, but Gattis would, got it.

If you're saying hit Gattis for Wood, sure.

You missed the point pretty badly there

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:49 PM
This loss is on the manager in so many ways! Where do we start? Playing Hayward right now is stupid. Give the guy a day off or move him out of the leadoff spot. 2nd when its a 0-0 game that late in the game you have to score that run from 2nd. Letting Wood hit for himself there is one of the worst coaching moves ever. That guy has to be moved to 3rd. So I guess your leaving Wood in to give up the eventual winning run in the bottom of that inning. We will never win in the post season with him and I wish we could get someone in here that knows how to freaking manage.

Oh and last but not least he didn't play the hottest player in the world right now. UNREAL!!!

We might not win in the postseason but its not because of Fredi.

Lineup is too flawed imo.

thethe
04-17-2014, 02:49 PM
I just can't believe we couldn't get Gattis at least 1 AB in this ballpark. Just shocking.

thethe
04-17-2014, 02:50 PM
Gattis has now rested in 3 of the last 5 days

HE NEEDS MORE REST!

Braves1976
04-17-2014, 02:51 PM
Yes, we had 3 or 4 hits off Burnett.

It's hardly a lock he gets a hit/HR off Burnett.



Burnett didn't pitch the 8th or 9th, Gattis could've hit one of those innings. That's usually how it works for him (see last year).

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 02:52 PM
Fredi was looking ahead and knowing we need to save our pen and Gattis for the Metropolitans.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:53 PM
Burnett didn't pitch the 8th or 9th, Gattis could've hit one of those innings. That's usually how it works for him (see last year).

Who do you hit him for, CJ?

Of course you probably hit for Wood but he was dealing.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 02:53 PM
Also, it looks like Justin Upton's hot streak is officially over. He swung right through meatballs all series.

gilesfan
04-17-2014, 02:55 PM
Who do you hit him for, CJ?

Of course you probably hit for Wood but he was dealing.

CJ, Laird, BJ, Pitcher........

Braves1976
04-17-2014, 02:57 PM
Of course you probably hit for Wood but he was dealing.

Given that it was Laird at second and Wood due up, it's really a no brainer IMO you pinch run Schafer for Laird and pinch hit for Wood given his issues with bunting plus it being the 8th and needing that run.

Braves1976
04-17-2014, 02:57 PM
CJ, Laird, BJ, Pitcher........

Yep.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:58 PM
We win 2/3 on the road and people somehow complain, unreal.

Apparently we should win every game.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 02:59 PM
CJ, Laird, BJ, Pitcher........

Ok, Ok, no, sure.

thethe
04-17-2014, 02:59 PM
We win 2/3 on the road and people somehow complain, unreal.

Apparently we should win every game.

You try to win every game you can.

gilesfan
04-17-2014, 02:59 PM
We win 2/3 on the road and people somehow complain, unreal.

Apparently we should win every game.

Shouldn't win every game, but putting your team in the best position to win is important, no?

sturg33
04-17-2014, 03:00 PM
We win 2/3 on the road and people somehow complain, unreal.

Apparently we should win every game.

This is the type of attitude from Fredi supporters

"We have a good record." Well, we could have a better one

"We won 2 of 3, why complain?" Because we could have 3 of 3.

Is that so hard to understand?

gilesfan
04-17-2014, 03:01 PM
Ok, Ok, no, sure.

So, you wouldn't pinch hit for a guy that hasn't seen .200 in years?

jpx7
04-17-2014, 03:01 PM
Shiiiiiiiit. 1 run in the past 18 innings.

But hey: only one run allowed over the past 18 innings.

nsacpi
04-17-2014, 03:01 PM
Last night Fredi was praised for leaving Teheran in the ninth. Today he gets criticized for leaving Wood in. At least it looks like the two groups don't intersect. Or do they? Need a Venn diagram for this.

sturg33
04-17-2014, 03:02 PM
But hey: only one run allowed over the past 18 innings.

But if you extend it to last 19 innings, we've scored 5 and given up only 1

Heyward
04-17-2014, 03:02 PM
You try to win every game you can.

Of course, but it's a marathon, not a sprint.

You dont play your players every game where they are worn down by August.

Heyward
04-17-2014, 03:03 PM
Shouldn't win every game, but putting your team in the best position to win is important, no?

I never argued Gattis should of hit.