GDT #17, 4/19/14: Braves (Santana) @ Mets (Colon) 7:10 PM

[NYCBrave]

Braves:


1. Jason Heyward (L) RF
2. B.J. Upton (R) CF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Justin Upton (R) LF
5. Evan Gattis (R) C
6. Dan Uggla (R) 2B
7. Chris Johnson (R) 3B
8. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
9. Ervin Santana (R) P

[sturg33]

Let's go boys… Win another series!

[nsacpi]

Great lineup today. Wonder if the Mets will concede early.

[The Chosen One]

Calling it now. Another shutout for the good guys.

[Heyward]

Calling it now. Another shutout for the good guys.

So we're gonna get shutout again.

:Sad:

[Mad Dog Murph]

So we're gonna get shutout again.

:Sad:


Reverse Reverse Mojo :icwudt:

[nsacpi]

Expecting a huge game from Heyward. A Tamboran explosion.

[stpeteirish]

I'm expecting Colon's first 52 pitches will be fastballs.

[The Chosen One]

Expecting Ervin's first 27 pitches to be strikes.

[Krovahn]

Expecting the ceremonial first pitch to bounce.

[nsacpi]

Expecting at least one Brave to go on the DL as a direct result of their appearing in a game against the Mets in this series.

[NinersSBChamps]

Expecting Ervin's first 27 pitches to be strikes.

And he will already be entering the 5th at that pitch count.

[nsacpi]

Expecting Fredi to make brilliant use of Gus Schlosser tonight.

[Heyward]

Expecting people to complain about Fredi before the 3rd inning.

[The Chosen One]

Expecting a huge game from BJ.

[NinersSBChamps]

Expecting people to complain about Fredi before the 3rd inning.

And I expect that if/when the Braves are trailing, you will say it's over.

[NinersSBChamps]

Expecting Jason to get on base at least once. So a huge game from him is what I am expecting.

[The Chosen One]

I'm expecting.

[NinersSBChamps]

I'm expecting.

Conceived in the shower I presume?

[AerchAngel]

If I were Heyward, I would push a bunt down either line and see if that fat toad can pounce on it and throw him out.

[nsacpi]

If I were Heyward, I would push a bunt down either line and see if that fat toad can pounce on it and throw him out.

The fat toad has perfected this technique of rolling down the mound at great speed.

[NinersSBChamps]

Fat toad was a nickname Steinbrenner gave to Hideki Irabu.

[Hulavol]

Braves are about to ass-fist these punks.

[AerchAngel]

Fat toad was a nickname Steinbrenner gave to Hideki Irabu.

Irabu has nothing on the Antagonist of Kung Fu Hustle. The ultimate toad technique.

[jcc03004]

I know Ervin can't continue to be this good realistically what would you take from Santana and be happy about his season? Can we get 15 wins low 3 era from him aka Medlen

[NinersSBChamps]

I know Ervin can't continue to be this good realistically what would you take from Santana and be happy about his season? Can we get 15 wins low 3 era from him aka Medlen

Anything less than 25 wins is a bad season. Also his era should be double digits...including the decimal.

His FIP should be negative. FTW!

[nsacpi]

I know Ervin can't continue to be this good realistically what would you take from Santana and be happy about his season? Can we get 15 wins low 3 era from him aka Medlen

I'll answer in terms of a statistic that isn't universally popular. I'll be happy if Santana produces a 3 WAR or better season. He was 3 WAR last year which was a good year and has looked very sharp so far this year. There is a chance he can do better. But to me the key is him doing well enough to allow us to make a qualifying offer at the end of the season. 3 WAR is what I regard as a breakeven for making the qualifying offer.

[rico43]

A tweet from Washington game this afternoon said Harper was pulled from game for failing to hustle to first. Last night, he came out of game after stumbling on catch near foul territory. Can't decide who has the dimmest future, he or Matt Williams. Saw where WIlliams had his pitchers taking fielding practrice before today's game; that stuff should be automatic by the end of spring. What did they spend March doing -- reading their press clippings (again)?

[The Chosen One]

Tom hart looks different.

[thethe]

Another good AB for Beej.

[thethe]

Swinging through more 87MPH junk.

[TURBO]

Oh boy

[TURBO]

Would rather throw Young a cookie then walk him.

[The Chosen One]

There goes the shutout. Thanks erv.

[UNCBlue012]

Young is just good. He's so fast. We've got to keep him off base as much as possible.

[AerchAngel]

Young is just good. He's so fast. We've got to keep him off base as much as possible.

He has more k's than anyone on the Braves and we walked him and he scored. Not good.

[TURBO]

Nice plays by Simmons

[TURBO]

Our gold glovers are showing off.

[UNCBlue012]

CoLOLon I can't hahahah

[TURBO]

Quiet thread tonight so far. I dont need you people anyways

[jpack1]

J Hey with another good play. We really should have gone with him in CF last offseason.

[TURBO]

Will the Braves get a bunt down??

[TURBO]

Of course not.

[jpack1]

J Hey even tried yo go around that ball and hook it. His swing is just in a bad place right now.

[The Chosen One]

Beeeej

[jpack1]

BJ looking so much better at the plate now. Still not stinging the ball but looking much more comfortable.

[The Chosen One]

BJ looking so much better at the plate now. Still not stinging the ball but looking much more comfortable.

Baby steps.

[jpack1]

Agreed.

[jpack1]

Seeing that jousts begs why did we not bunt before now.

[The Chosen One]

Great hustle by bj

[TURBO]

Our entire lineup should bunt the ball tonight. Colon is terrible.

[jpack1]

Awesome break for us. Haha Mets.

[The Chosen One]

Yay Jup.

Gattissss

[nsacpi]

Gattis due

[The Chosen One]

Bunt to the pitcher.

[TURBO]

Terrible. Walking Young again.

[The Chosen One]

Terrible. Walking Young again.

That was by design.

[AerchAngel]

That was by design.

....to show off Gattis arm.

[jpack1]

Erv is not as sharp as his first 2 starts but he is a joy to watch. Rapid fire strikes usually.

[Millwood1Hitter]

Nobody throws gas better than Fartolo Colon

[Heyward]

J Hey with another good play. We really should have gone with him in CF last offseason.

We really shouldnt have.

Heyward would wear down in CF full-time.

[jpack1]

Wear down when. When he's 30 and in pinstripes if he's good enough. Andrew didn't wear down for a dozen years. Heyward is an elite defender and still would be in CF but his avg numbers would play exceptional out there.

[AerchAngel]

Wear town when. When he's 30 and in pinstripes if he's good enough. Andrew didn't wear down for a dozen years.

AndrUw wasn't 6'5" and 235 lbs either. Now he is 6'2" and about 280 and should try out for the Falcons as a Safety.

[jpack1]

That a boy J Hey.

[TURBO]

Im encouraged by Jason.

[thethe]

Pay attention. Beej is showing signs.

[TURBO]

Im encouraged by Jason.

and Beej

[jpack1]

BJ. Sweet

[thethe]

Freeman is so damn good.

[TURBO]

http://archives.frederatorblogs.com/channel_frederator/files/2008/04/fredexlogo-copy.thumbnail.jpg

[thethe]

Is Freeman the second best hitter in the major leagues?

[Runnin]

I'm inspired by Freddie Freeman.

[jpack1]

If our 1-2 can get going in front of FF Wow. Lookout.

[cajunrevenge]

Its a good thing Wren locked up Freeman because it would be worth it for the mets to sign him just to keep him from playing against him.

[thethe]

Ugh, Gattis could not have hit that harder.

[jpack1]

J Ups swing is so good and short it just amazes me that he strikes out so often.

[mossy]

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[thethe]

Ervin Santana has some really good stuff. Everything moves and everything is moving late.

[The Chosen One]

J Ups swing is so good and short it just amazes me that he strikes out so often.
His swing is actually quite long.

[zitothebrave]

His swing is actually quite long.

His swing isn't long. He is actually quite quick to the ball. His follow through is slow but that doesn't matter.

[mossy]

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[Heyward]

Wear down when. When he's 30 and in pinstripes if he's good enough. Andrew didn't wear down for a dozen years. Heyward is an elite defender and still would be in CF but his avg numbers would play exceptional out there.

Heyward is 6-5, 235 or 240.

He should not be playing CF at all.

It would wear him down by Aug/Sept.

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/Mobile%20Uploads/C7722F88-EF15-4A9D-9854-7A2260C62B1E_zpsb9mtcnuf.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C7722F88-EF15-4A9D-9854-7A2260C62B1E_zpsb9mtcnuf.png.html)

[The Chosen One]

His swing isn't long. He is actually quite quick to the ball. His follow through is slow but that doesn't matter.

Follow through speed is the result of the swing.

[mossy]

David O'Brien ‏@ajcbraves · 8m
I shortchanged #Braves Freeman on a double: In his past 40 games vs. Mets, he has .353 avg (55-for-156) with 12 doubles, 12 HRs, 41 RBIs

[mossy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BloCPCLIgAEpJdV.jpg

Faux Frank Wren ‏@fauxfrankwren · 12m
Pwned. pic.twitter.com/2C8qYpqN7T

HA!

[Millwood1Hitter]

Where's everyone at? Hungover after Harangs post game party last night?

[The Chosen One]

Where's everyone at? Hungover after Harangs post game party last night?

Peeps are lurking. Probably just a sat thing

[mossy]

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iPhone screen shots aren't very clear. Oh well.

[mossy]

What the heck was that? Infield fly?

[AerchAngel]

Peeps are lurking. Probably just a sat thing

Scout posters. Afraid of getting banned if they post here.

[TURBO]

http://sportscracklepop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ervin-santana-sombrero.jpg

[thethe]

Was Santanas stuff always this good?

[buck7580]

Santana is a calm cat.

[Heyward]

Scout posters. Afraid of getting banned if they post here.

I invited some from scout, must be my fault :Sad:

[TURBO]

Bullpen time.

[Runnin]

I invited some from scout, must be my fault :Sad:
Scout posters? It lives?

[zitothebrave]

Was Santanas stuff always this good?

Yes, his issues have been consistency.

[zitothebrave]

Scout posters? It lives?

SAV is trying to get the grannies!

[TURBO]

Our pitching has been unbelievable.

[The Chosen One]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BloCPCLIgAEpJdV.jpg

Faux Frank Wren ‏@fauxfrankwren · 12m
Pwned. pic.twitter.com/2C8qYpqN7T

HA!

Is there a Washington one? I think I can make a quick buck on here.

[thethe]

Our pitching has been unbelievable.

As Nscapi said earlier today (or yesterday)...Gattis needs to start getting recognized. He is catching the majority of these games taht our pitchers are dominating in.

[Hawk]

Dice-K ... how the mighty have fallen.

[cajunrevenge]

Braves starters now lead the league in innings pitched per start. Can't give those guys or the scouts enough credit.

[Heyward]

Scout posters? It lives?

:Alone:

[zitothebrave]

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/4/19/5632012/bryce-harper-benched-hustle-nationals-matt-williams

MUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Hawk]

Seriously? Uggla continues to look like dog**** at 2B.

[jpack1]

Maybe the worst attempt ever at catching that Dan. Wow

[buck7580]

Oh Danny boy

[The Chosen One]

Good job uggla

[jpack1]

On that note. LaStella is 3 for 4 tonight.

[thethe]

We could use another lefty in the lineup. Can't wait till LaStella is up at second.

[The Chosen One]

Why is Carpenter ahead of Walden on the bullpen depth chart?

[The Chosen One]

We could use another lefty in the lineup. Can't wait till LaStella is up at second.

3 lefties to start the game?

[TURBO]

Why is Carpenter ahead of Walden on the bullpen depth chart?

[insert Fredi image here]

[The Chosen One]

Wow.

[TURBO]

http://t.qkme.me/3rogfk.jpg

[Hawk]

I may have just **** my pants. FSS camera angle made that look long gone.

[The Chosen One]

I may have just **** my pants. FSS camera angle made that look long gone.

Carpenter and Gattis thought so too.

[buck7580]

Just about everyone that it was goooone.

[NinersSBChamps]

Carpenter blows. Kimbrel needs to close each game starting in the 8th.

[TURBO]

Pull him.

[The Chosen One]

Carpenter sucks.

Never should be the set up man. Should be Walden.

[Hawk]

Carpenter is a decent pitcher, but I don't like him in a setup role at all.

[jpack1]

Blow another Santana start. Dang it.

[TURBO]

Sure hopes Venters comes back strong.

[The Chosen One]

I miss O'Flenters.

[jpack1]

Fredi must have come up with Carp as setup man the same night he came up with BJ in the 2 hole. Must have been one hell of a night b

[atl717]

Carpenter always sucked until last year. Last year was a fluke.

[CyYoung31]

Fredi must have come up with Carp as setup man the same night he came up with BJ in the 2 hole. Must have been one hell of a night b

Carpenter was the setup man nearly all of last season.

[The Chosen One]

Carpenter was the setup man nearly all of last season.

No. August and onward. Walden was April to July until he went on DL

[jpack1]

I realize that. Just making lite of the situation.

[CyYoung31]

No. August and onward. Walden was April to July until he went on DL

Carpenter worked the 7th inning or later. That's a setup man.

[jpack1]

Walden would be a better choice though quite obviously but hey.

[TURBO]

Runs please.

[NinersSBChamps]

Juan Uribe says Carpenter is just dandy.

[thewupk]

Sure hopes Venters comes back strong.

That would be awesome wouldn't. But honestly I think we have all been spoiled lately. The Braves pen the last few years has been ungodly good.

[The Chosen One]

Carpenter worked the 7th inning or later. That's a setup man.

7th inning and 8th aren't the same to me. Walden was the 8th simply because he has the closers mentality.

[Julio3000]

I see that BJ is Mendoza + for another day.

[thewupk]

Fredi must have come up with Carp as setup man the same night he came up with BJ in the 2 hole. Must have been one hell of a night b

He got a BJ in the 2 hole and has never been the same

[thewupk]

I see that BJ is Mendoza + for another day.

it's a christmas miracle

[The Chosen One]

Uggla is contagious.

[cajunrevenge]

Someone wake up the kimbrel, we got a 1 run lead to save.

[Millwood1Hitter]

Wren you need to go out a get me a reliever or two. Are you listening? This bullpen is garbage...I don't trust any of em out there, bunch of fools

[50PoundHead]

Gee. If Carpenter doesn't shape up, he's going to make an old man out of me. Hey . . . . . . wait a minute.

[The Chosen One]

Wren you need to go out a get me a reliever or two. Are you listening? This bullpen is garbage...I don't trust any of em out there, bunch of fools

Use Harang to net one to a team desperate for starting.

[TURBO]

Wren you need to go out a get me a reliever or two. Are you listening? This bullpen is garbage...I don't trust any of em out there, bunch of fools

any? Not 1 guy? :confused:

[jpack1]

Should steal here not bunt

[TURBO]

BJ is laughing at Jasons avg.

[Millwood1Hitter]

Who is available to acquire in a trade?

[The Chosen One]

Who is available to acquire in a trade?

Anyone on Cubs or DBacks

[TURBO]

Take one for the team BJ

[Millwood1Hitter]

No I don't trust anyone, not even Kimbrel, the guy is hurt, pitching with a bum shoulder. I expect him to go down soon.

And the setup guys are starting to bring back nightmares of the BLOWBERTO, Burger King, Reitsma, Kolb, Wickman days. NOT Good!

[Hawk]

Who is available to acquire in a trade?

Would love to poach from Cincinnati's late inning relief corps once Chapman returns; Broxton/Hoover/Marshall ...

[TURBO]

Justin will make them pay.

[The Chosen One]

No I don't trust anyone, not even Kimbrel, the guy is hurt, pitching with a bum shoulder. I expect him to go down soon.

And the setup guys are starting to bring back nightmares of the BLOWBERTO, Burger King, Reitsma, Kolb, Wickman days. NOT Good!

Considering we've had a ridiculous streak of #1 bullpen for 4 seasons in a row anything less is unacceptable.

[buck7580]

I would think that they would try a minor league pitcher or two and not make any trades this early in the season.

[Millwood1Hitter]

JJ Putz would be a nice 8th inning guy. Hopefully Venters return to previous effectiveness, but I have my doubts.

[thethe]

And that is when Justin Upton is at his best. Going to CF. Stop with this pulling garbage.

[Runnin]

YOWZA

[TURBO]

Justin will make them pay.

boom

[The Chosen One]

JUP JUP JUP

[nsacpi]

JUp

[Hawk]

Do a little dance Valverde.

[nsacpi]

Justin will make them pay.

well done

[buck7580]

Amen to that!!!

[Bj1133]

BOOM!

[zitothebrave]

Well there goes the save. April Upton.

[Runnin]

Kimbrel? He needs an inning.

[Millwood1Hitter]

BOOMSHAKALAKA!

[cajunrevenge]

Both Justin and Freeman have as many homers as the whole royals team combined.

[The Chosen One]

Screw the k's. I want a 5 pitch inning.

[Millwood1Hitter]

Fredi has Kimbrel, Avilan up in Braves pen and Harang and Walden warming up in Mets pen. Also has Thomas and Schlosser throwing in batting cages, says he wants options

[jason27nc]

What is the speed on kimbrel's pitches right now for the one's not watching?

[The Chosen One]

This is what happens Craig when you don't throw 98 anymore.

[The Chosen One]

What is the speed on kimbrel's pitches right now for the one's not watching?

94-96 more have been 95.

[nsacpi]

Fredi has Kimbrel, Avilan up in Braves pen and Harang and Walden warming up in Mets pen. Also has Thomas and Schlosser throwing in batting cages, says he wants options

He might be needing them.

[TURBO]

What is the speed on kimbrel's pitches right now for the one's not watching?

95ish

[The Chosen One]

My heart can't take this anymore. Mets have been knocking on the door all game. Please shut the door.

[Millwood1Hitter]

Kimbrel looks awful

[Julio3000]

Last (only) FB to Granderson was 98.

[TURBO]

98 on that pitch. Better.

[jason27nc]

Kimbrel looks awful

I wish they had just put him on the DL for 15 days and let him give that shoulder time to rest. Now we wasted a week and if he has to go on the DL we will lose him for at least 22 days.

[buck7580]

98 followed by a slider.

[TURBO]

that was nasty Craig.

[Millwood1Hitter]

Took a little while to warm up apparently, a little rusty

[The Chosen One]

Why why why why why

[jason27nc]

Why why why why why

WHAT????

[The Chosen One]

WHAT????

Does this team have to do this to my heart every game. I already have a condition

[The Chosen One]

Laird :facepalm:

[Hawk]

ugh

[jason27nc]

Laird :facepalm:

Why is he in there?

[The Chosen One]

Ck is really trying to overthrow. Going to hurt his shoulder. Walden coming in now.

[Hawk]

Wow, Fredi is pulling him.

Kimbrel mouths 'That's messed up' as Fredi walks out.

[TURBO]

Bring in Walden.

[jpack1]

Fredi is an idiot.

[The Chosen One]

Wow, Fredi is pulling him.

Kimbrel mouths 'That's messed up' as Fredi walks out.

Pretty sure he said this is bull****.

[weso1]

Man... Tough move by Fredi there.

[The Chosen One]

Fredi is an idiot.

Ck doesn't have anything tonight.

[Julio3000]

Yikes.

[Hawk]

Pretty sure he said this is bull****.

Haha, well, either way, he was definitely pissed.

[Millwood1Hitter]

LOL Fredi you freakin idiot

[CyYoung31]

WTF is happening???!!

[The Chosen One]

Man... Tough move by Fredi there.

Never seen Kimbrel miss that high that much. He's trying to overthrow.

[50PoundHead]

Fredi is an idiot.

Why? I'm just watching on Gameday and it looks like they never should have pitched Kimbrel. He's been all over the place.

[weso1]

I know that Kimbrel is a bit rusty, but who in the bullpen do we trust more right now?

[TURBO]

Fredi is an idiot.

I like the move. Kimbrel doesnt have it toniight.

[buck7580]

They probably had him on a pitch limit. COME ON WALDEN!

[jpack1]

He cares about everybody else's confidence except his star closer. Wow. Let him pitch to D Naurd or you shouldn't have used him tonight and should have DLed him.

[The Chosen One]

LOL Fredi you freakin idiot

Have you been watching? CK just doesn't have it tonight. Very hittable.

[Julio3000]

Anyone NOT think Craig is hurt?

[Runnin]

Fredi is doing the right thing. This game is meaningless compared to Kimbrel's arm. He hasn't thrown much in a week and no way you let him go 30 pitches.

[Gary82]

I hope this is just because he's had too much rest.

[jpack1]

If you are going to pull him he should have been DLed.

[rico43]

First, Kimbrel said, "Why are you taking me out?"

He indeed said, "that's bull****."

Then I'm pretty sure he said "that's ****ing bull****." And Johnson looked at him with surprise.

Craig needs to get over himself.

[Julio3000]

I hope this is just because he's had too much rest.

Could be that.

[CyYoung31]

He cares about everybody else's confidence except his star closer. Wow. Let him pitch to D Naurd or you shouldn't have used him tonight and should have DLed him.

Don't be an idiot. This is clearly the right move, for now and the future.

[The Chosen One]

Simmons for Closer.

[Hawk]

Platinum glove guy indeedles.

[Millwood1Hitter]

Is Kimbrel officially done? Is that extension going to come back to haunt us as he appears to have lost it. Bum shoulder, velocity is down, location is off, wow this is terrible terrible news for us

[TURBO]

http://li.c-b.co/is/image/LandOfNod/Letter_Giant_Enough_W_234214_LL/$web_zoom$&wid=550&hei=550&/1308310656/not-giant-enough-letter-w.jpg

[jpack1]

Thank you for hitting it to Simba.

[GreenwoodBrave]

And the Braves win.

[weso1]

Thank goodness for Simmons. Made it look easy.

[CyYoung31]

Could be that.

I think so. And I think it's a good idea for Fredi to have him on a pitch limit given how long it has been since he pitched.

[TURBO]

Is Kimbrel officially done? Is that extension going to come back to haunt us as he appears to have lost it. Bum shoulder, velocity is down, location is off, wow this is terrible terrible news for us

Wow, are you serious? Must suck to be you. You get all doom and gloom about everything. The guy hadn't pitched in a week.

[buck7580]

Nice play to end it. Hale needs to throw some innings tomorrow. Good night Braves fans.

[Krovahn]

Hell of a move by Fredi there. Not many managers would pull their all-star closer there, no matter how badly that move needed to be made; but, Fredi did it.

[Gary82]

Is Kimbrel officially done? Is that extension going to come back to haunt us as he appears to have lost it. Bum shoulder, velocity is down, location is off, wow this is terrible terrible news for us

You need to chill the **** out. Is everything the worst possible scenario with you?

[weso1]

First, Kimbrel said, "Why are you taking me out?"

He indeed said, "that's bull****."

Then I'm pretty sure he said "that's ****ing bull****." And Johnson looked at him with surprise.

Craig needs to get over himself.

Honestly, this is the kind of attitude I would want from my closer. I would want him to be really pissed that he was taken out in the 9th.

[Millwood1Hitter]

Wow, are you serious? Must suck to be you. You get all doom and gloom about everything. The guy hadn't pitched in a week.

I didn't like what I saw out of Kimbrel tonight. And with our medical staff I don't trust them saying its minor and he just needed some rest.

[CyYoung31]

Is Kimbrel officially done? Is that extension going to come back to haunt us as he appears to have lost it. Bum shoulder, velocity is down, location is off, wow this is terrible terrible news for us

He was hitting 98. He hasn't pitched in a week, of course he's going to be rusty.

[50PoundHead]

First, Kimbrel said, "Why are you taking me out?"

He indeed said, "that's bull****."

Then I'm pretty sure he said "that's ****ing bull****." And Johnson looked at him with surprise.

Craig needs to get over himself.

If that is what is indeed going on, I agree with you. Nobody's bigger than the team. Kimbrel hits a guy and they are lacing the ball all over the field and he's pissed when he gets pulled? Gee, is it junior high?

Tough play by Simmons to end it or routine?

[rico43]

Is Kimbrel officially done? Is that extension going to come back to haunt us as he appears to have lost it. Bum shoulder, velocity is down, location is off, wow this is terrible terrible news for us

He hit 98 on the gun during the inning. Posts like yours make me wish we could simply ignore certain posters.

[TURBO]

If that is what is indeed going on, I agree with you. Nobody's bigger than the team. Kimbrel hits a guy and they are lacing the ball all over the field and he's pissed when he gets pulled? Gee, is it junior high?

Tough play by Simmons to end it or routine?

Tough play that he made look routine.

[The Chosen One]

Is Kimbrel officially done? Is that extension going to come back to haunt us as he appears to have lost it. Bum shoulder, velocity is down, location is off, wow this is terrible terrible news for us

Stahp niners.

[jason27nc]

Good decision by Fredi there. I don't like him as a manager but that was the right move.

[TURBO]

He hit 98 on the gun during the inning. Posts like yours make me wish we could simply ignore certain posters.


agreeed. I dont mind he Fredi bashing that much, but stuff he post just irks me.

[50PoundHead]

He was hitting 98. He hasn't pitched in a week, of course he's going to be rusty.

Whitey Herzog always had a saying about his closer use, "Never more than three days in a row, either pitching or resting." He'd put in Sutter in non-save situations to make sure he stayed sharp. Kimbrel was probably rusty, but he still has to get guys out.

[mossy]

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Series win!!

[Julio3000]

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Hey, a series win is a series win. I hope it was just the layoff affecting Kimbrel and nothing else.

[rico43]

I didn't like what I saw out of Kimbrel tonight. And with our medical staff I don't trust them saying its minor and he just needed some rest.

The Braves have a long and glorious history of hiding injuries, going back to Glavine's broken rib, Smoltz ironing the shirt he was wearing, Neagle's shoulder.

[The Chosen One]

Whitey Herzog always had a saying about his closer use, "Never more than three days in a row, either pitching or resting." He'd put in Sutter in non-save situations to make sure he stayed sharp. Kimbrel was probably rusty, but he still has to get guys out.

Rather rusty than hurt.

He was injured and Fredi was playing it safe. I know CK wants to be out there just as much as anybody else, but I like Fredi playing it safe.

[Heyward]

Glad they hanged on and won, pretty worried with Kimbrel though...

[The Chosen One]

Kimbrel still has the velocity. Mechanics looked the same, just needs more work that's all.

[50PoundHead]

Rather rusty than hurt.

He was injured and Fredi was playing it safe. I know CK wants to be out there just as much as anybody else, but I like Fredi playing it safe.

Not disagreeing. I think Fredi made the right move given Kimbrel's shoulder stiffness last weekend. My point is that Kimbrel was rusty.

On the brightest of bright sides, the guys who weren't with the club until the last couple of weeks of spring training have been pitching extremely well. Again, I can only go by the ball strike/numbers, but from glancing at those, it appears Santana wasn't the sharpest, but he gutted through and made pitches when he had to.

[Heyward]

Is Kimbrel officially done? Is that extension going to come back to haunt us as he appears to have lost it. Bum shoulder, velocity is down, location is off, wow this is terrible terrible news for us

I know i cant be talking but holy crap you are negative.

I agree with the concern with Kimbrel but do you say anything positive?

[Runnin]

There is nothing for anyone to be alarmed about. Kimbrel didn't look hurt at all, just a little rusty and the Mets had some bloop hits.

Kimbrel needs to act more professionally when his manager is making a move and at least have enough baseball sense to know why it was the right move. He deserves an ass chewing for that display.

[USMA76]

Gutsy move by Fredi there and a good one.

Don't know if Kimbrel was rusty or hurt. He was hitting his normal velocity but not hitting his normal spots--to say the least. Another outing like this from CK and you can't help but be concerned.

[weso1]

If I'm manager I don't have a problem with Kimbrel's reaction, in fact I bet Fredi was expecting it when he went out there. I'd be more concerned if he didn't have that reaction.