GDT #18, 4/20/14: Braves (Hale) @ Mets (Wheeler) 1:10 PM

[NYCBrave]

Braves:

1. Jason Heyward (L) RF
2. B.J. Upton (R) CF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Justin Upton (R) LF
5. Chris Johnson (R) 3B
6. Dan Uggla (R) 2B
7. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
8. Gerald Laird (R) C
9. David Hale (R) P

Mets:

1. Eric Young Jr. (S) LF
2. Curtis Granderson (L) RF
3. David Wright (R) 3B
4. Daniel Murphy (L) 2B
5. Chris Young (R) CF
6. Lucas Duda (L) 1B
7. Anthony Recker (R) C
8. Omar Quintanilla (L) SS
9. Zack Wheeler (L) P

[sturg33]

I think Gattis has gotta ba the most well-rested player in the majors. 4 off days in the last 8

[thethe]

I think Gattis has gotta ba the most well-rested player in the majors. 4 off days in the last 8

The inconsistent playing time can't be good for him.

[Heyward]

The inconsistent playing time can't be good for him.

What would you say is a good number for him to play?

120-130?

Outside of maybe Yadi, most C's get 1-2 days off a week.

[Hulavol]

Fellas... He is wearing out the ice machine in the hotel keeping his knees from looking like balloons. This will be the case all year. Get over it already.

Now, let's get the brooms ready!!!!

[thewupk]

The inconsistent playing time can't be good for him.

I think it is good for him so he can last all year and be a productive hitter.

[AerchAngel]

I think it is good for him so he can last all year and be a productive hitter.

+inifinity

He needs rest from time to time. I didn't agree with the Philly thing as he could play a serviceable left field and need his bat (we lost that game and I think he would have brought us a win), but night to day game after a grueling game last night, he deserves a day off.

[Tapate50]

The inconsistent playing time can't be good for him.

He's like 0-9 since he was sat at Cbp in Philly after an off day.

[rico43]

He's like 0-9 since he was sat at Cbp in Philly after an off day.

Believe Fredi wants a vet handling Hale, also.

[nsacpi]

Fellas... He is wearing out the ice machine in the hotel keeping his knees from looking like balloons. This will be the case all year. Get over it already.



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[zitothebrave]

Wish with Hale on the mound we were resting guys aside from gattis. Could use a GOB lineup.

[The Chosen One]

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Just watched Driven about Gattis. Knees were torn up in junior college.

[Mad Dog Murph]

In reference to Gattis, go ahead and get it out of your systems now because ANYTIME there is a day game following a night game, El Oso Blanco will be on El Bencho. Put it in the books.....Put a stamp on it and email it to yo self.

[nsacpi]

Just watched Driven about Gattis. Knees were torn up in junior college.

I know he had a knee injury in college and had a cleanup procedure this past off-season.

[Heyward]

David O'Brien @ajcbraves

#Braves Kimbrel said he feels better today than he did yesterday, after shaking off the rust. Fredi said he's available to pitch today.

[nsacpi]

In reference to Gattis, go ahead and get it out of your systems now because ANYTIME there is a day game following a night game, El Oso Blanco will be on El Bencho. Put it in the books.....Put a stamp on it and email it to yo self.

Hasn't done it yet this year, but last year he caught day games after night games.

[zitothebrave]

Hasn't done it yet this year, but last year he caught day games after night games.

Probably cause the brass knew Mac was gonna be back so the added wear of that wouldn't be felt as bad.

[nsacpi]

Probably cause the brass knew Mac was gonna be back so the added wear of that wouldn't be felt as bad.

I understand they want to keep him fresh given this is the first year he'll be the primary catcher in the majors. But I don't think there is an issue with his knees that would preclude his occasionally catching a day game after a night game.

[Mad Dog Murph]

I understand they want to keep him fresh given this is the first year he'll be the primary catcher in the majors. But I don't think there is an issue with his knees that would preclude his occasionally catching a day game after a night game.


Gattis has had bad knees since college. Just because he hasn't had 30 surgeries on them (yet) doesn't mean they are the knees of a 18 year old kid. I never bitch at a staff that values the long term health of a player.

[jsebe10]

I expect the boys to do a lot of first pitch jacking today. Wheeler is tough and he owes us one.

[VirginiaBrave]

Come on David "let's give 'em" Hale...

[weso1]

Wind really pushed that one away from Upton. I think he was surprised it tailed as much as it did.

[NYCBrave]

Why do we seemingly allow this bum Eric Young to get on base 75% of the time against us.

[UNCBlue012]

Always. haha and he's quick enough to where he WILL be a threat 90% of the time. Good job limiting the damage nontheless by Hale.

[jsebe10]

God those balls are a foot outside!!!

[weso1]

Upton with the ole unnecessary leap catch.

[UNCBlue012]

Come on Hale! I like the guy's stuff, but he always scares me. The umpire isn't calling ANYTHING either.

[UNCBlue012]

Uggla... what.

[atl717]

What does anyone see in Hale? His stuff and command are weak. He's a reliever.

[UNCBlue012]

Great damage control.

[stpeteirish]

What does anyone see in Hale? His stuff and command are weak. He's a reliever.

should be his last start. There really isn't much to like, he's very average.

[cajunrevenge]

Infield flys just piss me off

[cajunrevenge]

What does anyone see in Hale? His stuff and command are weak. He's a reliever.

He's been very inconsistant in his career. I don't think anyone was expecting more than a back end starter. He can be valuable as a swing starter/reliever.

[UNCBlue012]

This ump has been awful. He may of costed Jason a chance on there.

[AJonesATL]

Upton has obviously been playing better but he still has shown me no signs of actually driving the ball with force. Still not very optimistic on him, he just looks like a pitcher hitting to me.

[jsebe10]

This ump has been awful. He may of costed Jason a chance on there.

No.

Jason's back foot almost in the Mets' duggout cost Jason.

[UNCBlue012]

No.

Jason's back foot almost in the Mets' duggout cost Jason.

I've wanted him to move up for the last two years. I personally don't know his reason for staying so far back, but it seems like he'd be way better if he'd move forward.

[jsebe10]

I've wanted him to move up for the last two years. I personally don't know his reason for staying so far back, but it seems like he'd be way better if he'd move forward.

This is the swing I miss.


http://youtu.be/m6ivNpSo9KU

[UNCBlue012]

Man, it's a beauty. I know Jason has the talent, but I feel like he almost confuses himself. But, it could be me.

Also, Wheeler is cruising. This could be bad for us. The guys are taking bad swings, the CJoh swing was just sad.

[VirginiaBrave]

Did Uggs just single to right?

[jsebe10]

Christ Simmons. At least take a pitch or something. Gotta try and clear Laird ass.

[VirginiaBrave]

We are mailing this one in...

[jsebe10]

We are mailing this one in...

Feels like it don't it? Which is bad because we are only down two runs.

[jsebe10]

This is going to be one boring ass top half of the fifth. Laird makes baseball boring.

[Braves78]

Not game related but crazy Carlos Gomez just pulled the same stunt he did against the Braves against the Pirates, except it didn't go out. Garret Cole was ready to take his head off and Gomez lost his mind again. MLB needs to suspend this punk or the Brewers need to bench him before he gets players hurt. His teammates have to be worried they are going to get hurt trying to protect this punk.

[UNCBlue012]

Not game related but crazy Carlos Gomez just pulled the same stunt he did against the Braves against the Pirates, except it didn't go out. Garret Cole was ready to take his head off and Gomez lost his mind again. MLB needs to suspend this punk or the Brewers need to bench him before he gets players hurt. His teammates have to be worried they are going to get hurt trying to protect this punk.

The only thing good about the dude is that he's saving my fantasy team. I'd take a blow and say get rid of him for a couple games. I can't stand him.

[Five]

Why can't we bunt.

[UNCBlue012]

My lord this team can't get down a sac-bunt.

[NYCBrave]

My lord this team can't get down a sac-bunt.

What is our percentage of successful sac bunts this year? 10%?

[UNCBlue012]

That'll be a run! Thank the lord!

[Five]

Take that. Thank you

[Julio3000]

We get all new pitchers, and none of them can bunt.

[UNCBlue012]

BJJJJJ! There's that authority! Tie game!

[thethe]

There is some power. Slowly he is coming back to respectability.

[Five]

Beeeeeej. Well struck

[NinersSBChamps]

He has risen!

[thethe]

How effin good is Freddie Freeman?

[Five]

Fiverrrrrrrr!!!!!!!

[UNCBlue012]

FREEEEEDDIEEE

[Five]

Not so good AB by Justin

[UNCBlue012]

Justin looked woeful, but a great inning nonetheless. Glad to see BJ continue to hit. If we can get .220-.240 out of BJ, I'd be ecstatic. Heyward has made much better swings the last two games.

[Five]

Happy Freddie picked up where chipper left off with killing the Mets.

[Julio3000]

With production from 1-2, this lineup is scary.

[jsebe10]

Not game related but crazy Carlos Gomez just pulled the same stunt he did against the Braves against the Pirates, except it didn't go out. Garret Cole was ready to take his head off and Gomez lost his mind again. MLB needs to suspend this punk or the Brewers need to bench him before he gets players hurt. His teammates have to be worried they are going to get hurt trying to protect this punk.

Agree. The dude is a whack job and you can see it in his eyes. He's got some serious anger issues and they really need to make him piss in a cup or off him some kind of treatment.

[thethe]

Hale has actually pitched alright today. As a fifth starter this is all you should expect.

[thethe]

With production from 1-2, this lineup is scary.

Yup, its all about finding a way to get on base for Freddie. Guy is so locked in its scary.

[Five]

With production from 1-2, this lineup is scary.
Always a big if, but if BJ can get it going this year and Uggla can produce as well, the lineup will be scary. I have plenty of faith with Heyward getting back on track.

Great shut down inning.

[UNCBlue012]

Yup, its all about finding a way to get on base for Freddie. Guy is so locked in its scary.

He has been for over a year now. It's honestly amazing to watch the guy. I wouldn't be surprised to see him win the batting title in the next couple of years. His power is beginning to develop too...

[stpeteirish]

If BJ can actually hit with some power, and not strike out a zillion times, I'd be whatever the word is more is for happier than ecstatic.

[stpeteirish]

Upton has obviously been playing better but he still has shown me no signs of actually driving the ball with force. Still not very optimistic on him, he just looks like a pitcher hitting to me.

double off the wall, its coming.

[stpeteirish]

This is going to be one boring ass top half of the fifth. Laird makes baseball boring.

Umm..

[UNCBlue012]

Crap, well. Come on Hale... get out of this!

[stpeteirish]

Agree. The dude is a whack job and you can see it in his eyes. He's got some serious anger issues and they really need to make him piss in a cup or off him some kind of treatment.

this is where baseball should be more like hockey. If someone gets out of line in hockey, the best fighter on the other team beats you up. If your teammates don't help you, you keep getting beat up until you stop being an ass.

[atl717]

You have to consider yourself lucky to get Hale through 5. Asking him to go 6 is a recipe for a loss. Guy is bad at pitching.

[AJonesATL]

Not sure why you'd have Thomas warming up here if you aren't putting him in for this situation - hopefully it works out

[UNCBlue012]

DP that Uggla ruined... Wow.

[AJonesATL]

Unbelievable Uggla - great job by Hale defense has just let him down today big time

[thethe]

What an embarssment. Cut that man.

[Five]

Lol. Oh Dan, unbelievable

[jpack1]

Uggla trying to lose his spot he sucks.

[thethe]

So why can't Ramiro Pena get more of a look?

[Tapate50]

That was just a brutal error. How is our defense compared to this passed year? 2 boots in a game....

His have all been big ones too.

[UNCBlue012]

Hale is doing a heck of a job here. Come on, one more...

[UNCBlue012]

Bases loaded. Gotta change pitchers here.

[nsacpi]

Hale has done a good job but I'd bring in a reliever here.

[UNCBlue012]

Hale has done a good job but I'd bring in a reliever here.

As would I. Come on, get out of it!

[jsebe10]

What's so funny about it...management sees Chris Johnson as the defense liability in the later innings of game. Uggla clearly is.

[UNCBlue012]

HALE OF A JOB!

[thethe]

I can't believe what a joke Uggla is in the field. Feel so bad for Hale who fought like crazy today.

[Five]

What's so funny about it...management sees Chris Johnson as the defense liability in the later innings of game. Uggla clearly is.

Yep and it's not even close.

[nsacpi]

Well done David Hale!

[AJonesATL]

Good damage control, could have been far worse. SHould have gotten out of it with the lead but fortunate they didn't break it open either.

[nsacpi]

What's so funny about it...management sees Chris Johnson as the defense liability in the later innings of game. Uggla clearly is.

Fredi is a afraid of Dan.

[stpeteirish]

Pastor and Pena could both be used more, and not just end of game situations.

[cajunrevenge]

You have to consider yourself lucky to get Hale through 5. Asking him to go 6 is a recipe for a loss. Guy is bad at pitching.

I know what a bum that Hale is. Giving up 3 runs despite 3 errors is absurdly pathetic. 2.93 era? How are we supposed to win games with ****ty pitching like that.

[buck7580]

Pastor and Pena could both be used more, and not just end of game situations.

Agree.

[thethe]

Thats the type of contact we want Heyward to get!

[UNCBlue012]

3-4 for Jason!

[Five]

Very nice swing there by jhey

[stpeteirish]

C'mon BJ, contact

[nsacpi]

Someone should tell Collins Freddie likes rice

[Five]

Ugh

[UNCBlue012]

I did not expect Freddie to hit Into a DP.

[NinersSBChamps]

Just got Fredi'd. Should have bunted.

[nsacpi]

Dang. Freddie.

[AJonesATL]

Put that one on BJ - Fine with Freddie's approach. BJ has got to get that run in there.

[atl717]

Joke we didn't cash in there against turd relievers. And people, lets be honest about BJ Upton is better than last year and yet is still terrible.

[jpack1]

Did not expect that.

[jsebe10]

Put that one on BJ - Fine with Freddie's approach. BJ has got to get that run in there.

No. That's on Freddie. Ray Charles could have seen a first pitch off speed pitch coming. Take a pitch and get the one you want. He was too anxious there.

[TURBO]

Im here. Time to win this game.

[stpeteirish]

Joke we didn't cash in there against turd relievers. And people, lets be honest about BJ Upton is better than last year and yet is still terrible.

there's more turd relievers to come. Some of them may be ours.

[NinersSBChamps]

Granderson fitting in real well in Flushing.

[Five]

Lmao. He can make a play like that and can't field a ball directly to him.

[jsebe10]

Granderson fitting in real well in Flushing.

Lol I was thinking that when I saw he signed there. That short porch in Yankee stadium made him a stud. This is the real Granderson right here.

[zitothebrave]

No. That's on Freddie. Ray Charles could have seen a first pitch off speed pitch coming. Take a pitch and get the one you want. He was too anxious there.

Freddie and Bossman are both at fault. Bossman more so though. With a runner at 3rd and no outs and someone like Schafer there's literally like 4 ways to not have him score. Popup, K, and HBP and walk. Swinging bunt or hard hit grounders are iffy. any kind of hit, or deep fly ball and most grounders would score him.

[gilesfan]

David Carpenter? Really?

Pfree Jordan Waldon

[AerchAngel]

David Carpenter? Really?

Pfree Jordan Waldon

wut?

[nsacpi]

David Carpenter? Really?

Pfree Jordan Waldon

Walden has pitched the last two nights. Didn't mind Carpenter there. Next inning I would guess we see Avilan unless we take a lead.

[NinersSBChamps]

Walden is our new closer because Craig is mean to Fredi.

[atl717]

Gattis swung at a horrible pitch, he s lied about being more selective this year.

[zitothebrave]

Lol I was thinking that when I saw he signed there. That short porch in Yankee stadium made him a stud. This is the real Granderson right here.

I think being 33 plays a big part of it.

[jsebe10]

Lol fckn Torres....

[gilesfan]

Walden is our new closer because Craig is mean to Fredi.

Yeah, maybe Fredi doesn't want to use Craig today. That would make sense.

[Five]

Desmond > Simmons

[TURBO]

Wow. He made that look so easy.

[buck7580]

Seems like Tejada can only hit to right field.

[Five]

That pitch was in the other batters box.

[atl717]

BJ is the worst starter in baseball.

[zitothebrave]

Come on Lord BABIP.

[TURBO]

BJ is the worst starter in baseball.

Anything posiive to say. Your last several posts.

Carpenter always sucked until last year. Last year was a fluke.

What does anyone see in Hale? His stuff and command are weak. He's a reliever.

You have to consider yourself lucky to get Hale through 5. Asking him to go 6 is a recipe for a loss. Guy is bad at pitching

Joke we didn't cash in there against turd relievers. And people, lets be honest about BJ Upton is better than last year and yet is still terrible.

Gattis swung at a horrible pitch, he s lied about being more selective this year.

BJ is the worst starter in baseball.

[Tapate50]

Anything posiive to say. Your last several posts.

Carpenter always sucked until last year. Last year was a fluke.

What does anyone see in Hale? His stuff and command are weak. He's a reliever.

You have to consider yourself lucky to get Hale through 5. Asking him to go 6 is a recipe for a loss. Guy is bad at pitching

Joke we didn't cash in there against turd relievers. And people, lets be honest about BJ Upton is better than last year and yet is still terrible.

Gattis swung at a horrible pitch, he s lied about being more selective this year.

BJ is the worst starter in baseball.

Looks to me Giles brought another mole over from Nat land

[UNCBlue012]

One job Chris... One job!

[nsacpi]

Anything posiive to say. Your last several posts.

Carpenter always sucked until last year. Last year was a fluke.

What does anyone see in Hale? His stuff and command are weak. He's a reliever.

You have to consider yourself lucky to get Hale through 5. Asking him to go 6 is a recipe for a loss. Guy is bad at pitching

Joke we didn't cash in there against turd relievers. And people, lets be honest about BJ Upton is better than last year and yet is still terrible.

Gattis swung at a horrible pitch, he s lied about being more selective this year.

BJ is the worst starter in baseball.

The good news is he likes the rest of the team. I think.

[atl717]

Anything posiive to say. Your last several posts.

Carpenter always sucked until last year. Last year was a fluke.

What does anyone see in Hale? His stuff and command are weak. He's a reliever.

You have to consider yourself lucky to get Hale through 5. Asking him to go 6 is a recipe for a loss. Guy is bad at pitching

Joke we didn't cash in there against turd relievers. And people, lets be honest about BJ Upton is better than last year and yet is still terrible.

Gattis swung at a horrible pitch, he s lied about being more selective this year.

BJ is the worst starter in baseball.

Yeah Freeman is awesome. I like most everybody on the team but the few I mentioned. They are hard to like.

[jsebe10]

Hurry up and walk us off so we can get the hell outta the Northeast.

[UNCBlue012]

Wright kills us, but man the guy is good.

[sturg33]

So Fredi brings in our worst reliever on the team to face the Mets best hitters...

Oh right, I forgot. "You can't use your closer in a tie game on the road"

[NinersSBChamps]

So Fredi brings in our worst reliever on the team to face the Mets best hitters...

Oh right, I forgot. "You can't use your closer in a tie game on the road"

Walden is tired.

[AerchAngel]

So Fredi brings in our worst reliever on the team to face the Mets best hitters...

Oh right, I forgot. "You can't use your closer in a tie game on the road"

Wut?

Varvaro is not bad.

[NinersSBChamps]

Ugh this game is so boring right now.

[AerchAngel]

Looks to me Giles brought another mole over from Nat land

We could have Sav change his name to AlwaysNegativeBravesFan.

[cajunrevenge]

BJ is the worst starter in baseball.

Your the BJ Upton of posters.

[UNCBlue012]

Come on Simba.

[Julio3000]

Note to Braves: this is Dice-K.

[NinersSBChamps]

Would have rather left Varvarro in the game. Gus is going to come in now?

[Julio3000]

Your the BJ Upton of posters.

I LOL'd. Well, after I winced at the grammar.

[UNCBlue012]

The guys are not about this game haha they're just sick of it.

[sturg33]

Wut?

Varvaro is not bad.

What*

[sturg33]

Would have rather left Varvarro in the game. Gus is going to come in now?

Why not Kimbrel?

[cajunrevenge]

Please no more Gus Schlosserberger.

[AJonesATL]

Good old save statistic dominating how to manage. Its just so simple. If we give up a run we lose - if we take the lead we have the leeway to give up a run and not lose. Yet because of a statistic the better pitcher has to pitch in the lower leverage situation. Not even blaming Fredi here - its for the most part a league wide rule. None the less so far so good. Need one more out here.

[stpeteirish]

Note to Braves: this is Dice-K.

I don't recall even not getting something off of Dice-K.

[sturg33]

Good old save statistic dominating how to manage. Its just so simple. If we give up a run we lose - if we take the lead we have the leeway to give up a run and not lose. Yet because of a statistic the better pitcher has to pitch in the lower leverage situation.

It is so annoying how dumb managers are

[nsacpi]

Surprised Schlosser wasn't held back until he was the last guy in the pen. Just in case this turns out to be a very long game.

[stpeteirish]

Surprised Schlosser wasn't held back until he was the last guy in the pen. Just in case this turns out to be a very long game.

Just leave him in. They don't want to use Walden and Kimbrel is being held for obvious (to most) reasons. That's all we have left.

[cajunrevenge]

This could be a really long game with those shadows between the pitcher and hitter.

[TURBO]

Braves will score here.

[buck7580]

Hopefully Gus won't have to pitch three innings for the win

[UNCBlue012]

Id love to see Jason's numbers on 3-0 counts. He takes the walk a good amount but he just doesn't do much else.

[atl717]

So we can't get 1 run off the worst pen in baseball?

[NinersSBChamps]

Id love to see Jason's numbers on 3-0 counts. He takes the walk a good amount but he just doesn't do much else.

He has more strikeouts than walks.

[nsacpi]

Just leave him in. They don't want to use Walden and Kimbrel is being held for obvious (to most) reasons. That's all we have left.

That's what it looks like.

[stpeteirish]

So we can't get 1 run off the worst pen in baseball?

worst pitcher in the worst pen. and that doesn't even include Farnsworth.

[sturg33]

Survived another... Really need to make it happen this inning.

[Heyward]

Afraid we lose this bottom half.

Not scoring with 1st/3rd is gonna cost us.

[sentenza]

Only 44 pitches for this Matzusuka guy. Horrible!

[Heyward]

Yeah Freeman is awesome. I like most everybody on the team but the few I mentioned. They are hard to like.

Are you a Nats fan?

[stpeteirish]

Lucas Duda stole a base?

[nsacpi]

Tremendous effort by Schlosser.

[sentenza]

Now win it for Gus please!
14 innings are enough!

[stpeteirish]

not sure if I'd hit for Schlosser here or not. A sacrifice situation would be nice. Doumit's the only guy left.

[NinersSBChamps]

not sure if I'd hit for Schlosser here or not. A sacrifice situation would be nice. Doumit's the only guy left.

That would require the Braves getting base.

[Heyward]

I dont think Fredi wants to use Walden, give him the day off.

And Kimbrel cant pitch unless we lead and they seem like they want to go home.

:Sad:

[jpack1]

That a boy Gus

[mfree80]

Chip says "this is amazing." I was thinking "pathetic." Do these guys really love baseball? ;-)

[AerchAngel]

That's Fredi for you.

When the Nats win, we lose.

[buck7580]

Oh well. Good game Gus.

[NinersSBChamps]

Whatever. This team had zero heart today.

[AerchAngel]

We will be behind the Nats again in the rankings because of this horrid display. No runs on this pathetic bullpen?

[jpack1]

In thr grand scheme it is just a loss but it really was a piss poor execution and effort by the Braves today. Just one game but man where was the focus and concentration.

[jsebe10]

Who cares! Get us home and the hell outta the northeast.

[cajunrevenge]

Now to wait for the nats troll to tell us how much the braves suck and the nats are about to go on a roll.

[Heyward]

Not a surprising outcome.

4-2 road trip, cant complain though im sure most will.

[tvsportscaster]

You win 12 out of every 18 ballgames all season and you're in good shape and screw the Nats. By the way, this loss was well earned by the Braves.

[Krovahn]

I take the blame for this one. I left my parents place just as it was heading to extras... no more then walked through my house door and the Braves lost. Sorry, guys.

[Heyward]

David Carpenter? Really?

Pfree Jordan Waldon

Walden pitched in the last 2 and we dont have an off-day until Thursday.

Dont think Fredi wanted to use Walden today.

[VirginiaBrave]

So why can't Ramiro Pena get more of a look?

Because Uggs is the better player 90% of the time. The positive with Dan outweigh the negatives imo.

[jason27nc]

We can't win them all but I hate the Mets and want to beat them every time we play them. Good to see Jason get 3 hits today.

[thethe]

Because Uggs is the better player 90% of the time. The positive with Dan outweigh the negatives imo.

The positives? Have to look real hard for those.

[USMA76]

Listening to the Mets broadcast on the car radio today, they said the middle of the Braves infield has a concert pianist on the left side of second base and some guy playing "chopsticks" on the other side.

[Julio3000]

Listening to the Mets broadcast on the car radio today, they said the middle of the Braves infield has a concert pianist on the left side of second base and some guy playing "chopsticks" on the other side.

That's not bad.

[rico43]

Frankly, Uggla's defense was the principal argument for not giving La Stella more of a chance. A few more games like this, and Uggs will have to be tearing the cover off the ball to merit keeping his job. I had a flashback to the all-star game, when he was the punchline to nearly every joke.

[gilesfan]

Frankly, Uggla's defense was the principal argument for not giving La Stella more of a chance. A few more games like this, and Uggs will have to be tearing the cover off the ball to merit keeping his job. I had a flashback to the all-star game, when he was the punchline to nearly every joke.

What do you mean by this bc Ugglas defense has always been bad

[gilesfan]

Looks to me Giles brought another mole over from Nat land

I'm more positiv e than 70% of fans on here

[nsacpi]

If he had determined that it would be best not to use Walden and Kimbrel today (and I think not using them was a reasonable call), should Fredi have given a second inning to a couple of the other relievers. Pitch counts were 11 for Thomas, 10 for Carpenter, 17 for Varvaro and 18 for Avilan. Thomas and Avilan were not pinch hit for. If he knew he was working with a 5 man pen in a close game that was likely to go extra inninings, why not use one or two of those guys for two innings.

[Julio3000]

I miss Cristhian Martinez.

[50PoundHead]

What do you mean by this bc Ugglas defense has always been bad

I think his contention is that La Stella's defense, if not worse, isn't markedly better enough to hand him the job over Uggla.

[Heyward]

If he had determined that it would be best not to use Walden and Kimbrel today (and I think not using them was a reasonable call), should Fredi have given a second inning to a couple of the other relievers. Pitch counts were 11 for Thomas, 10 for Carpenter, 17 for Varvaro and 18 for Avilan. Thomas and Avilan were not pinch hit for. If he knew he was working with a 5 man pen in a close game that was likely to go extra inninings, why not use one or two of those guys for two innings.

We got to the 14th inning, only so many times you can shut them out for.

Offense had to do something and they didnt.

[UNCBlue012]

Loses like this happen. I'm highly impressed we got to as far as we did with the shaky defense we had today. The BP impressed me more than anything and Schlosser showed me something. Gotta keep winning series either way! Go Bravos!

[Krovahn]

Just had time to look back at the highlights... referring back to Harper's lack of hustle for the Nats... sad to see that JUP had a bit of his own lack of hustle on his triple. He was basically jogging from home to first... rounded first at a decent clip and then slowed again before picking it back up. He was standing at third before the cut-off man even got the ball. If he was running full speed, he scores.

Oh well, though. Can't win them all.

[stpeteirish]

Just had time to look back at the highlights... referring back to Harper's lack of hustle for the Nats... sad to see that JUP had a bit of his own lack of hustle on his triple. He was basically jogging from home to first... rounded first at a decent clip and then slowed again before picking it back up. He was standing at third before the cut-off man even got the ball. If he was running full speed, he scores.

Oh well, though. Can't win them all.

Big difference on how the two organizations handle these things, and I'm thinking our approach is better. Old school types love it when their mgr chews the star players ass out for not hustling but over time in most cases its the mgr who loses, not the player. Matt Williams is already on a slippery slope. He's come over from the D'Backs, where they favor grit over talent. They must have thought that's what they needed, I'm not sure it'll work.

Not really a fan of Fredi overall, but the more laisse faire approach with guys like Justin is wise, IMO. He is what he is (Justin)

[NYCBrave]

Would have been nice to get the sweep, but games like this will happen, and we won a series on the road. 18 games in we're 12-6 and 2nd best record in the NL. Definitely would have signed up for that to start the season.

[gilesfan]

Big difference on how the two organizations handle these things, and I'm thinking our approach is better. Old school types love it when their mgr chews the star players ass out for not hustling but over time in most cases its the mgr who loses, not the player. Matt Williams is already on a slippery slope. He's come over from the D'Backs, where they favor grit over talent. They must have thought that's what they needed, I'm not sure it'll work.

Not really a fan of Fredi overall, but the more laisse faire approach with guys like Justin is wise, IMO. He is what he is (Justin)

The biggest players manager off all-time would bench players for lack of hustle. (Bobby)

In the end, talent wins. If the talent is good enough, it makes it look as if the manager made the right call.

p.s. no chance Justin scores on that.

[NYCBrave]

The biggest players manager off all-time would bench players for lack of hustle. (Bobby)

In the end, talent wins. If the talent is good enough, it makes it look as if the manager made the right call.

p.s. no chance Justin scores on that.

Disagree. Still think the Nats are more talented than the Braves, and they certainly didn't win last year. Managers having the ability to get the most out of their players trumps the most talent sometimes.