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tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 05:22 PM
Braves lineup:
1. JHey-RF
2. BJ-CF
3. Freddie-1B
4. Superman-C (Gattis)
5. JUp-LF
6. CJ-3B
7. Tommy-Gun-2B
8. Simba-SS
9. Minor-P

Not completely outraged that BJ is in there and batting 2nd just cause there is a lefty on the mound. Let's take this series before a division filled weekend, including the 4 game set in Washington. :tchop:

Angels lineup:
1. Cowgill-RF
2. Trout-CF
3. Pujos-1B
4. Hamilton-LF
5. Kendrick-2B
6. Aybar-SS
7. Freese-3B
8. Congar-C
9. Santiago

NinersSBChamps
06-15-2014, 05:27 PM
Maybe another 13 innings and Justin may be able to find a hit.

Braves1976
06-15-2014, 05:27 PM
LOL Fredi never learns, still no day off for Freeman and BJ still batting second... It's long overdue we give Freeman a day off and go with something like this:

Heyward
La Stella
Gattis
J. Upton
Doumit (1st base)
Simmons
BJ
CJ
Pitcher

Note: If we rested Freeman, then Gattis or Justin could bat third and the other fourth. I just thought with Heyward and La Stella in front of Gattis one is likely to get on for him to drive in with one of his bombs. But I'm also fine with him batting fourth or fifth, but the more AB's the better with as hot as he is. Also, I know La Stella is a lefty but he seems to be able to hit righties and lefties well from watching him in the minors. The sample size is small but he is hitting .286 (2-7) vs lefties so far in the Majors. So I am not concerned with him following Heyward who is also a lefty, not even against a lefty like tonight.

AerchAngel
06-15-2014, 05:29 PM
I don't have ESPN so I will be watching on the computer.

Jay212033
06-15-2014, 05:42 PM
I mean Fredi just refuses to sit Freddie smh!

Braves1976
06-15-2014, 05:49 PM
I mean Fredi just refuses to sit Freddie smh!

That and he is apparently afraid of batting two lefties back-to-back too. La Stella seems like the ideal number two hitter unlike BJ who is just not hitting enough to justify batting so high. Plus batting in front of the big guns would give La Stella more pitches to hit too. I am confident he'd do a better job with that chance than we've seen from BJ but I know that isn't saying much, lol.

My regular line-up would be something like:

Heyward
La Stella
Gattis/Justin
Freeman/Gattis/Justin
Justin/Gattis/Freeman
CJ/BJ/Simmons
BJ/Simmons/CJ
Simmons/CJ/BJ
Pitcher

(hot and cold streaks considered, also numbers vs pitchers)

Note: I'd put BJ between CJ and Simmons in the batting order and hope when he gets on he can steal where they don't have too many chances to hit into DP's as both will do so plenty regardless. Though CJ is the main concern with regard to DP's, Simmons has lined into quite a few whereas CJ's are almost always the traditional DP rather than "bad luck".

stpeteirish
06-15-2014, 05:50 PM
I mean Fredi just refuses to sit Freddie smh!

well at least he "refused" to sit Gattis.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 05:51 PM
well at least he "refused" to sit Gattis.

Good thing it's a night game, no way he would have played a day game.

Bravesfan205
06-15-2014, 06:50 PM
since everyone is talking about line up construction I thought I would add my 2 cents. here is how I would have the line up
La Stella
Justin
Heyward
Gattis
Freeman
CJ
BJ
Simmons

This keeps the lefty/righty splits like Fredi likes and it is pretty solid 1-5.

waraueagle
06-15-2014, 07:15 PM
I think we should just give Fredi a day (or 94) off.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 07:26 PM
Bj is a joke. Arguing on a pitch right down the middle. Bad representation of the Braves organization.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 07:26 PM
Hopefully freddie is ready to break out.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 07:27 PM
I hope everyone saw the stats that showed BJ one of the 5 worst hitters in MLB over last year and half. All while being a bad defender. WOW

Lville21
06-15-2014, 07:28 PM
That wasn't a strike on Trout.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 07:29 PM
And he bats 2nd for us. Terrible.

rico43
06-15-2014, 07:30 PM
Rockies just swept the Giants in San Fran! Apparently they weren't just playing well those lsat two days. Now only one game under .500.

NinersSBChamps
06-15-2014, 07:32 PM
There goes another Minor bomb.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 07:35 PM
BJ as never gonna catch that but wow he got nowhere near it. He really is terrible.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 07:37 PM
since everyone is talking about line up construction I thought I would add my 2 cents. here is how I would have the line up
La Stella
Justin
Heyward
Gattis
Freeman
CJ
BJ
Simmons

This keeps the lefty/righty splits like Fredi likes and it is pretty solid 1-5.

Looks good but Freeman is your RBI guy...he shouldn't be any lower than 4th.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 07:38 PM
There goes another Minor bomb.

As long as they're solo shots he'll be fine.

NinersSBChamps
06-15-2014, 07:43 PM
Another winless pitcher going to carve this team up.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 07:47 PM
Holy sh1t!!! Look what happens when you don't swing at a pitch out of the strike zone!! You fckn walk!! Omg!!

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 07:49 PM
Someone needs to force simmons to take a pitch or two, jeeze.

NinersSBChamps
06-15-2014, 07:51 PM
As long as they're solo shots he'll be fine.

Not when you give up two in two plus innings pitched.

USMA76
06-15-2014, 07:51 PM
...and Trout sends one towards South America. smh

NinersSBChamps
06-15-2014, 07:55 PM
Minor showing that last season was an accident.

sturg33
06-15-2014, 07:56 PM
Minor showing that last season was an accident.

You have gotten to be insufferable... Was enjoyable in April

stpeteirish
06-15-2014, 07:57 PM
Another winless pitcher going to carve this team up.

he's 0-6, but the Angels think his biggest problem is lack of confidence so they've found an apparent solution, throw him vs Atl.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 07:57 PM
Minor doesn't have it tonight. Hope we can score some runs.

stpeteirish
06-15-2014, 08:00 PM
g'night doubt if there's another comeback in this bunch.

NinersSBChamps
06-15-2014, 08:00 PM
Game. Simmons boots a grounder.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 08:01 PM
WTH is wrong with this team. Somebody needs to be fired to shake things up.

USMA76
06-15-2014, 08:01 PM
Minor doesn't have it tonight. Hope we can score some runs.

When was the last time Minor did "have it?" Last we saw, he was giving up eight runs in four innings in Colorado. He's proving tonight that he may be able to do the same thing at sea level.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 08:01 PM
Lol watching this game with angel fans...I'm embarressed.

zitothebrave
06-15-2014, 08:03 PM
When was the last time Minor did "have it?" Last we saw, he was giving up eight runs in four innings in Colorado. He's proving tonight that he may be able to do the same thing at sea level.

Ok, I"m not trying to be a dick, but Atlanta is 1000 feet above sea level.

Minor made a bad pitch to Aybar and Trout is just the best player in baseball, normally you can pitch righties there like Minor did and not get smoked, so 1 bad pitch and one great hitter.

jason27nc
06-15-2014, 08:05 PM
WTH is wrong with this team. Somebody needs to be fired to shake things up.

I have a couple suggestions.

NinersSBChamps
06-15-2014, 08:05 PM
Ok, I"m not trying to be a dick, but Atlanta is 1000 feet above sea level.

Minor made a bad pitch to Aybar and Trout is just the best player in baseball, normally you can pitch righties there like Minor did and not get smoked, so 1 bad pitch and one great hitter.

Yeah Atlanta is the third highest stadium in elevation I believe.

Minor gives up homeruns at an alarming rate. Coming into tonight 7 HR allowed in 48 IP.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 08:08 PM
Ok, I"m not trying to be a dick, but Atlanta is 1000 feet above sea level.

Minor made a bad pitch to Aybar and Trout is just the best player in baseball, normally you can pitch righties there like Minor did and not get smoked, so 1 bad pitch and one great hitter.

I'm a minor fan, but he looks bad tonight imo. Not a ton of movement, control isn't really there, ball isn't exploding out of his hand. I think minor will be fine and is the pitcher he was last year, but he looks like dog crap tonight.

USMA76
06-15-2014, 08:10 PM
Ok, I"m not trying to be a dick, but Atlanta is 1000 feet above sea level.

Minor made a bad pitch to Aybar and Trout is just the best player in baseball, normally you can pitch righties there like Minor did and not get smoked, so 1 bad pitch and one great hitter.

Bottom line is Minor's pitching to a pinball ERA right now whether it's in Colorado or Atlanta. Maybe that "altitude" in Atlanta will benefit the Braves' bats...or not.

emk418
06-15-2014, 08:12 PM
It just amazes me that Fredi keeps running the same lineup out there.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 08:13 PM
Wellll this game is a bit of a clown show.

stpeteirish
06-15-2014, 08:14 PM
Wellll this game is a bit of a clown show.

last 50 games have...

sturg33
06-15-2014, 08:17 PM
OK J-Hey

USMA76
06-15-2014, 08:18 PM
While we're changing the lineup (yeah, right) is there any reason Heyward isn't playing CF?

stpeteirish
06-15-2014, 08:18 PM
It just amazes me that Fredi keeps running the same lineup out there.

all five bench players hitting .200 or below. Wren built this team, and they've overestimated what most the the core 8 guys can do. What the hell can Fredi do with this roster? Play Doumit in LF and Schafer in CF? That doesn't help a bit.

sturg33
06-15-2014, 08:20 PM
BJ should play - but should be batting 8th. He is our worst hitter, but is still better than Schafer

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 08:21 PM
Almost 80 pitches in the 4th...dude go back to the DL

CyYoung31
06-15-2014, 08:23 PM
BJ should play - but should be batting 8th. He is our worst hitter, but is still better than Schafer

According to Bowman, the Braves are toying with the idea of bringing Bethancourt up and putting Gattis in left.

Not sure how I feel about that.

NinersSBChamps
06-15-2014, 08:23 PM
BJ should play - but should be batting 8th. He is our worst hitter, but is still better than Schafer

He is a liability at the plate and in the outfield. He is a good base runner, but I would take Schafer over him in that aspect.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 08:23 PM
Wellll this game is a bit of a clown show.

It's even worse that we have to listen to ESPN just literally blow on the Angels and Trout. I can literally hear Trout's cock hitting their tonsils.

stpeteirish
06-15-2014, 08:24 PM
board loves to trash harang, but he's been better than Minor this year.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 08:25 PM
According to Bowman, the Braves are toying with the idea of bringing Bethancourt up and putting Gattis in left.

Not sure how I feel about that.

Honestly dude....fckn do it...this OF/catching/team needs a spark. Move the Kid to CF, Fat Upton to RF, and toss Evan out there. Maybe he will get to play more than 3 days in a row out there.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 08:26 PM
board loves to trash harang, but he's been better than Minor this year.

Minor is a clown. He's put this team and bullpen in sooo many tight spots this year.

stpeteirish
06-15-2014, 08:28 PM
According to Bowman, the Braves are toying with the idea of bringing Bethancourt up and putting Gattis in left.

Not sure how I feel about that.

I presume they're moving JUp and Heyward around and benching BJ with this. I vote yes, and I know Gattis is terrible in LF. BJ's gotta hit the bench somehow.

You can't yo yo Gattis back and forth tho, leave him at one position.

thethe
06-15-2014, 08:28 PM
According to Bowman, the Braves are toying with the idea of bringing Bethancourt up and putting Gattis in left.

Not sure how I feel about that.

I'd consider that. Get another guy in the lineup who doesn't strikeout and slightly improve your defense in total.

stpeteirish
06-15-2014, 08:29 PM
Minor is a clown. He's put this team and bullpen in sooo many tight spots this year.

at least we didn't extend him

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 08:30 PM
Minor and the shaky D has been frustrating, but it doesn't compare to getting shut down by this bum.

thethe
06-15-2014, 08:34 PM
I miss Medlen.

tvsportscaster
06-15-2014, 08:34 PM
Yeah, I don't mind the Bethancourt move. This team has to do something to spark it offensively, another embarrassing performance tonight against a winless pitcher. It's becoming an epidemic.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 08:36 PM
It's even worse that we have to listen to ESPN just literally blow on the Angels and Trout. I can literally hear Trout's cock hitting their tonsils.

Kruk is the worst. Can't stand that guy.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 08:38 PM
I miss Medlen.

His injury was heart breaking. By far my favorite pitcher.

Runnin
06-15-2014, 08:40 PM
Kruk is the worst. Can't stand that guy.
I like Kruk. He doesn't overdo it the commentary.

USMA76
06-15-2014, 08:43 PM
And the Angels turn over their lineup again while Minor averages 20 plus pitches per inning. I just feel badly for the people in the ballpark who paid to watch this.

NinersSBChamps
06-15-2014, 08:44 PM
I like Kruk. He doesn't overdo it the commentary.

Similar to Mike Minor and pitching.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 08:51 PM
There's a bunch of guys on this team that need to take some notes from the rookie.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 08:55 PM
Lol extreme shift and he weakly hits it to the left side.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 08:56 PM
Gonna have to start fining Simmons for more then 1 1st pitch swing a night. That's ridiculous.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 08:57 PM
Seriously is this a fckn ball game or a Trout promo?

tvsportscaster
06-15-2014, 08:57 PM
Gonna have to start fining Simmons for more then 1 1st pitch swing a night. That's ridiculous.

This team has no plan at the plate, this guy who is winless on the season has thrown 60 pitches through 5 innings. They don't know how to work counts or even try to get pitchers in trouble. They might be the worst offensive team in baseball outside the Padres.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:00 PM
Best in the business out there...

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 09:01 PM
Well at least Heywards a beast.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:02 PM
Well at least Heywards a beast.

Aside for being 0 for his last 20 vs lefties

NinersSBChamps
06-15-2014, 09:03 PM
Well at least Heywards a beast.

Defensive and base running skills are top notch.

CrimsonCowboy
06-15-2014, 09:11 PM
Buster Olney for CF!

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:15 PM
Kruk literally pointing out the EXACT thing that is wrong with BJ at the plate...its unreal that he can't see that

USMA76
06-15-2014, 09:17 PM
Please Oso, no double play here.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:17 PM
Right guy up

BravesBlock
06-15-2014, 09:18 PM
According to Bowman, the Braves are toying with the idea of bringing Bethancourt up and putting Gattis in left.

Not sure how I feel about that.

Interesting. Has Bethancourt improved offensively. I remember reading that the Braves thought he was ready defensively but his bat wasn't ready for MLB pitching. But if he is basically taking BJ's spot in the lineup I guess he can at least give the Braves that level of offensive performance.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:18 PM
Alright OSO

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:18 PM
LMAO Ooopss....

Good Job Evan

CrimsonCowboy
06-15-2014, 09:18 PM
LOL. When you're going good..................

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:19 PM
Let's go Bravos.

The Chosen One
06-15-2014, 09:19 PM
Woooo

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:20 PM
Get outta the game Santiago you over achieving bastard...

Keep it rolling boys

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:20 PM
Come on CJ. No DP here.

Garmel
06-15-2014, 09:22 PM
These ESPN cameramen suck.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 09:22 PM
Hopefully we get lord babip not lord GIDP....

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:23 PM
Just saw that ESPN put up the HR leaders in NL and because I think Todd Frazier is the luckiest fck face in baseball and I hate him..

He has 14 HRs...12 in the Great AMerican Small Park and 2 on the road..

26 RBI at home and 9 on the road...

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:24 PM
These ESPN cameramen suck.

Its not their fault...

They gotta have at least 3 camera angles on Trout at all times...soo...you do the math

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 09:24 PM
Just saw that ESPN put up the HR leaders in NL and because I think Todd Frazier is the luckiest fck face in baseball and I hate him..

He has 14 HRs...12 in the Great AMerican Small Park and 2 on the road..

26 RBI at home and 9 on the road...

He's saving my fantasy team so sshhhh lol

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:25 PM
That a boy. Let's get it TLS.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:26 PM
Damnit Doug 3B Coach!! come on man!

thethe
06-15-2014, 09:26 PM
I wonder if its a good thing or bad thing if I feel TLS is our best hitter for this situation.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:27 PM
TLS may not get it done but he has a great approach to hitting.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:27 PM
Tommy is going to have to get his foot down against Jepsen...gas thrower

thethe
06-15-2014, 09:29 PM
MOVE THIS KID UP IN THE LINEUP!

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:29 PM
TLS may not get it done but he has a great approach to hitting.

Hes a bad ass...

The Chosen One
06-15-2014, 09:29 PM
TLS

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:29 PM
TLS is a hitting fool. Damn he is good.

thethe
06-15-2014, 09:30 PM
Maybe these national scouting publications have no clue about what taems have talent.

Guys like TLS/Gattis were not highly regarded at all and they are ready to play when they come up.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 09:30 PM
I heart Tommy-Gun.

The Chosen One
06-15-2014, 09:30 PM
Diczenso is terrible.

Runnin
06-15-2014, 09:30 PM
No way Jason can hit the pitch TLS just hit.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:30 PM
Simmons has literally seen 3 pitches. Damn Simba. What are you doing.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:31 PM
TLS did EXACTLY what good major league hitters do vs flame throwers...

He got that front foot down and trusted his hands...No way this kid should be hitting ANYWHERE below #2...starting tomorrow night...

tvsportscaster
06-15-2014, 09:31 PM
I freakin love Tommy LaStella, outside of Freeman and Gattis, there's no one I want up there more in that situation. The kid is a cool customer. If the rest of the team would take his approach, this offense would be great.

thethe
06-15-2014, 09:31 PM
Ok, new lineup:

TLS
J-Upt
Heyward
Gattis
Freeman
CJ
BJ
SImmons

sturg33
06-15-2014, 09:32 PM
Diczenso is terrible.

Not a bad gamble... literally took a perfect relay and he still may have gotten in there

parkvadawg
06-15-2014, 09:32 PM
Lol at the usual suspects itt

thethe
06-15-2014, 09:32 PM
I freakin love Tommy LaStella, outside of Freeman and Gattis, there's no one I want up there more in that situation. The kid is a cool customer. If the rest of the team would take his approach, this offense would be great.

If we could sub out BJ with another hitter like TLS then our team would be awesome offensively. Problem is when you have 3+ hitters who can't get on base consistently.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:33 PM
Need Toni to breeze through this inning and turn it over to Shae Mae

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:33 PM
Ugh...

Nice catch BJ

thethe
06-15-2014, 09:33 PM
Well, maybe CJ if BJ is going to make plays like that.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:34 PM
These prospect pub sites have no clue about most of these guys. They look for a certain super athletic type and if you aren't that you don't get ranked high.

Nice play BJ. Finally.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 09:34 PM
Who is that guy and what did he do with BJ?!

USMA76
06-15-2014, 09:36 PM
OK, what have they done to BJ Upton? Seriously, nice walk by him to start the top of the inning and a nice defensive play there. I bash him when he screws up so have to give him props when he's contributing 8^).

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:36 PM
OK, what have they done to BJ Upton? Seriously, nice walk by him to start the top of the inning and a nice defensive play there. I bash him when he screws up so have to give him props when he's contributing 8^).

Bought himself another week in the 2 hole baby!! lol

Garmel
06-15-2014, 09:37 PM
Can our bullpen keep from imploding this time? Please?

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:37 PM
Sh!t! Avilan is warming up...

USMA76
06-15-2014, 09:37 PM
Bought himself another week in the 2 hole baby!! lol

Didn't need that thought...thanks.

Garmel
06-15-2014, 09:38 PM
Sh!t! Avilan is warming up...

That's not good. Ugh!

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:39 PM
People on this board always say somebody hates a player. They hate what they are producing or not producing at the time but not he guy. I would love nothing more than for BJ to take off and rake and be all world from today forward. So when he makes a great play I'll be right there happy as he'll for the guy and the Bravos.

Barnes
06-15-2014, 09:39 PM
Ok, new lineup:

TLS
J-Upt
Heyward
Gattis
Freeman
CJ
BJ
SImmons

This is what i am thinking also. I think Jason is ready to handle batting third again.

Garmel
06-15-2014, 09:39 PM
Nice job, Varvaro! Two good innings.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:44 PM
People on this board always say somebody hates a player. They hate what they are producing or not producing at the time but not he guy. I would love nothing more than for BJ to take off and rake and be all world from today forward. So when he makes a great play I'll be right there happy as he'll for the guy and the Bravos.

Calm down brother...We are only up by 1 with a suspect bullpen

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:44 PM
That boy looks just like he damn daddy!

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:46 PM
And Schafer doesn't even run. He is trying to get cut I think.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:46 PM
Jason needs to stay back and let the ball travel a bit...getting a little bit pull happy again

KB21
06-15-2014, 09:46 PM
These prospect pub sites have no clue about most of these guys. They look for a certain super athletic type and if you aren't that you don't get ranked high.

Nice play BJ. Finally.

I agree. If you go by the super athletic profile, then the Cardinals wouldn't be rated very high. Matt Carpenter, Allen Craig, Matt Adams, and even Matt Holiday do not fit the super athletic, high upside type of player they typically look for.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:47 PM
Thatta boy Jason!

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:48 PM
The Heytrain. Yes sir.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 09:48 PM
J-Hey!!!

Runnin
06-15-2014, 09:48 PM
He can hit it there.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:48 PM
They didnt even show the ball going over the fence...They just kept the camera on Trout on a dead sprint the entire way

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:49 PM
Good swing BJ!!

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 09:49 PM
I think the real bj was abducted by aliens.

parkvadawg
06-15-2014, 09:51 PM
Really wish he got on base more

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:51 PM
How hard is it to get the fckn Camera shots right!!?? Come on ESPN

thethe
06-15-2014, 09:52 PM
Whats funny is that people have criticized Wren and his staff for his drafting the last few years. If you look now you have guys like Simmons/Wood/Gattis/TLS/Shae that are making contributions in a big way.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:52 PM
BJ doing work. This is a new development.

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 09:54 PM
I'm ready for a Gattis bomb...

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:55 PM
That boy certainly don't pitch like he daddy!

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:55 PM
You don't see that everyday. Holy cow

jason27nc
06-15-2014, 09:57 PM
You don't see that everyday. Holy cow

What happen?

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:57 PM
Terrible effort by Hamilton. Bedrock's kid don't look to sharp.

Runnin
06-15-2014, 09:57 PM
Time for Braves fans to starting voting Gattis for ASG.

thethe
06-15-2014, 09:57 PM
Gattis just makes contact with everything.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 09:57 PM
Fastball 2 feet over everything to the backstop

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 09:58 PM
LMAO fckn Hamilton...coke head

I will proudly admit though that I was friends with a guy back home in CHarleston that supplied Josh Hamilton with his coke when he played for the Charleston Riverdogs...pretty cool

USMA76
06-15-2014, 09:59 PM
Looks like Josh Hamilton went to the BJ Upton school for fielding. j/k

tomahawkchop10
06-15-2014, 10:00 PM
Time for Braves fans to starting voting Gattis for ASG.

Already did 70 times.

cajunrevenge
06-15-2014, 10:02 PM
If we could sub out BJ with another hitter like TLS then our team would be awesome offensively. Problem is when you have 3+ hitters who can't get on base consistently.

This.

AerchAngel
06-15-2014, 10:03 PM
LMAO fckn Hamilton...coke head

I will proudly admit though that I was friends with a guy back home in CHarleston that supplied Josh Hamilton with his coke when he played for the Charleston Riverdogs...pretty cool

Thats not cool man. He had an addiction and fought it off. I respect people who fight something that is hard to break so lay off of him.

thethe
06-15-2014, 10:04 PM
Thats not cool man. He had an addiction and fought it off. I respect people who fight something that is hard to break so lay off of him.

Amen.

thethe
06-15-2014, 10:05 PM
This.

Better yet you might be able to put Peraza at third for CJ since BJ isn't going anywhere with that contract.

Garmel
06-15-2014, 10:06 PM
Man, this Angels team tonight is playing just like we have a good part of the season. Get a lot of hits and runners on base while scoring just a few runs then the bullpen comes in and ****s the bed.

cajunrevenge
06-15-2014, 10:09 PM
Would love to see Simmons pitch the 9th.

Julio3000
06-15-2014, 10:09 PM
With Heyward contributing, TLS doing his thing, and Gattis being beastly, if we get either FF or JUp hitting, this team will score 5-6 on the reg.

Well, if TLS is in the 1-2 spot, anyway.

Garmel
06-15-2014, 10:12 PM
Nice to see Walden have a good inning. We'll need him down the stretch.

Runnin
06-15-2014, 10:14 PM
LMAO fckn Hamilton...coke head

I will proudly admit though that I was friends with a guy back home in CHarleston that supplied Josh Hamilton with his coke when he played for the Charleston Riverdogs...pretty cool
You should really be proud. That's the most impressive thing you've ever said on here.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:15 PM
Thats not cool man. He had an addiction and fought it off. I respect people who fight something that is hard to break so lay off of him.

Oh I am sure he has heard worse...

thewupk
06-15-2014, 10:16 PM
With Heyward contributing, TLS doing his thing, and Gattis being beastly, if we get either FF or JUp hitting, this team will score 5-6 on the reg.

Well, if TLS is in the 1-2 spot, anyway.

JUP will come around. He's just a hot and cold hitter. I'm encouraged by Freeman though. 3 good games in a row at the plate.

thethe
06-15-2014, 10:16 PM
With Heyward contributing, TLS doing his thing, and Gattis being beastly, if we get either FF or JUp hitting, this team will score 5-6 on the reg.

Well, if TLS is in the 1-2 spot, anyway.

TLS absolutely needs to be moved up in the order. Preferably leadoff.

thethe
06-15-2014, 10:18 PM
Its really a joy watching a TLS AB.

jpack1
06-15-2014, 10:18 PM
TLS IS HITTING .410. Freaking 410

Julio3000
06-15-2014, 10:18 PM
TLS craps hits.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:18 PM
TLS absolutely needs to be moved up in the order. Preferably leadoff.

I don't see how you can't at this point...He has put our 2B position back on the map offensively and defensively...and he is obviously your prototypical top of the order hitter...no way around it...It HAS to be done..

sturg33
06-15-2014, 10:20 PM
Why the hell are we sac bunting with a 3 run lead??

thewupk
06-15-2014, 10:20 PM
Was the double earlier his first XBH this year?

cajunrevenge
06-15-2014, 10:20 PM
Better yet you might be able to put Peraza at third for CJ since BJ isn't going anywhere with that contract.

From what I read his arm is average for short so I don't know if he could handle third.

What I want is to trade Santana for prospects and flip them plus some of our own for Daniel Murphy and Ben Zobrist. Murphy platoons with CJ who still murders lefties and Zobrist can play RF with Heyward in center. Both can play multiple positions so we would lineup flexibility and improves the bench. Santana's salary is more than both combined so payroll as goes down this year. And both are signed thru 2015.

thewupk
06-15-2014, 10:20 PM
fail bunt but the wild pitch gets them over anyways.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:21 PM
Why the hell are we sac bunting with a 3 run lead??

Working on thangs...

thewupk
06-15-2014, 10:21 PM
Why the hell are we sac bunting with a 3 run lead??

no lead is safe with our pen

cajunrevenge
06-15-2014, 10:22 PM
TLS IS HITTING .410. Freaking 410

Almost higher than Uggla's OPS.

thethe
06-15-2014, 10:22 PM
Was the double earlier his first XBH this year?

No, he had one a week ago.

CrimsonCowboy
06-15-2014, 10:23 PM
Nail it down, David

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:23 PM
Have yall ever heard of a guy named Mike Trout?

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:28 PM
Get your remaining sucks in ESPN! Its his last AB of the night! Slurp it up

Julio3000
06-15-2014, 10:28 PM
Carp vs. Trout. Sounds fishy.

CyYoung31
06-15-2014, 10:30 PM
Have yall ever heard of a guy named Mike Trout?

Yeah, he's supposed to be the new Jason Heyward.

Garmel
06-15-2014, 10:30 PM
I'll be glad tomorrow when we get to see the Braves tomorrow by way of regional coverage. I'm really sick of watching The Mike Trout Show on ESPN.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:30 PM
OOOOO the commentators just came! They splooged themselves after that last single...OOOOOOooo mmmmmm

USMA76
06-15-2014, 10:31 PM
I'll be glad tomorrow when we get to see the Braves tomorrow by way of regional coverage. I'm really sick of watching The Mike Trout Show on ESPN.

More like the "Mike Trout ESPN Slobberfest."

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:31 PM
I'll be glad tomorrow when we get to see the Braves tomorrow by way of regional coverage. I'm really sick of watching The Mike Trout Show on ESPN.

Amen dude

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:32 PM
He got plunked on accident...Get over it Soccia!

AerchAngel
06-15-2014, 10:33 PM
the bear was shadowing Pujols, lol.

Barnes
06-15-2014, 10:34 PM
The Great Pujols isn't allowed to be pitched inside?

USMA76
06-15-2014, 10:34 PM
Scioscia and Pujols need to take some Midol and get over it. There's no way that Carpenter wants more base runners in this situation.

Garmel
06-15-2014, 10:34 PM
More like the "Mike Trout ESPN Slobberfest."

It's more than a slobberfest. The entire ESPN cast has their kneepads on for Trout.

Julio3000
06-15-2014, 10:34 PM
Yeah, he's supposed to be the new Jason Heyward.

That's a ridiculous comparison. Trout clearly loves baseball.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:35 PM
Scosia and Pujols need to take some Midol and get over it. There's no way that Carpenter wants more base runners in this situation.

Ole B Frankin has a habit of making one feel entitled

AerchAngel
06-15-2014, 10:35 PM
Oh I am sure he has heard worse...

Of course he has, but you didn't need to say it. Now everyone knows you are dickhead for saying it.

We are not amused.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:36 PM
Of course he has, but you didn't need to say it. Now everyone knows you are dickhead for saying it.

We are not amused.

Shhhhh...be quiet AA...Hamilton vs Craig

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:39 PM
Kimbrel has looked amazing his last few outings...throwin gas!

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:40 PM
Not even fair!

CrimsonCowboy
06-15-2014, 10:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/P6x0U.gif

thewupk
06-15-2014, 10:41 PM
yay we win a series against a non terrible team

Julio3000
06-15-2014, 10:41 PM
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff511/poinsett/84235576-69a8-489e-8ff4-315329bf1804_zps7d5d95d7.jpg

Staved off elimination again. Wheel the champagne out of the Nats' clubhouse.

Runnin
06-15-2014, 10:41 PM
Kimbrel is a heck of a closer. How lucky the Braves are to have him. True closers don't come around very often. I hope he can stay healthy and have a long career.

Julio3000
06-15-2014, 10:41 PM
Nice job by the Varvarian tonight.

AerchAngel
06-15-2014, 10:42 PM
Shhhhh...be quiet AA...Hamilton vs Craig


you do not tell me to be quiet, dickhead.

USMA76
06-15-2014, 10:43 PM
Let me sure I got this straight--Mike Trout's team lost the game and the series. Is that even remotely possible in light of having "the greatest player in the game, bar none" on the Angels roster?

In all seriousness, way to come back, Braves, and win a game that looked pretty bleak for the first five or six innings.

tvsportscaster
06-15-2014, 10:44 PM
Nice win tonight, the last two nights have been encouraging, because they got up off the deck late, last night they should have pulled it out and tonight they did.

Julio3000
06-15-2014, 10:44 PM
Coulda been a sweep, but I'll take a series win. Nice job coming from behind.

AerchAngel
06-15-2014, 10:45 PM
Nice win tonight, the last two nights have been encouraging, because they got up off the deck late, last night they should have pulled it out and tonight they did.

Exactly, they kept fighting and fighting. Now sweep the Philthies.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:45 PM
you do not tell me to be quiet, dickhead.

Thats it...I am sick of you!

DANCE OFF!!!!!!!!!

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:46 PM
Let me sure I got this straight--Mike Trout's team lost the game and the series. Is that even remotely possible in light of having "the greatest player in the game, bar none" on the Angels roster?

In all seriousness, way to come back, Braves, and win a game that looked pretty bleak for the first five or six innings.

Are you saying that Mike Trout is the best player in MLB?!?!

Julio3000
06-15-2014, 10:47 PM
Thats it...I am sick of you!

DANCE OFF!!!!!!!!!

Poor judgment.

thewupk
06-15-2014, 10:48 PM
Are you saying that Mike Trout is the best player in MLB?!?!

nah that's La Stella

Runnin
06-15-2014, 10:48 PM
Great job by Fredi keeping the guys focused after the tough loss last night. How DOES he do it?

AerchAngel
06-15-2014, 10:51 PM
Thats it...I am sick of you!

DANCE OFF!!!!!!!!!

Good, now make the board happy and leave.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:51 PM
nah that's La Stella

Ummmmmmmmm...are you sure? He doesnt even hit at the top of the lineup!!!

AerchAngel
06-15-2014, 10:51 PM
nah that's La Stella

LOL!!!

USMA76
06-15-2014, 10:51 PM
Are you saying that Mike Trout is the best player in MLB?!?!

I'm just mocking Dan Schulman and John Kruk who must've said it half a dozen times tonight between them.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:52 PM
Good, now make the board happy and leave.

You are sensitive! You have always been that way though...even on the scout board..

maybe <wink>

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:53 PM
I'm just mocking Dan Schulman and John Kruk who must've said it half a dozen times tonight between them.

I knew that, brother...I was joking along with you

USMA76
06-15-2014, 10:53 PM
Interesting trivia I picked up from the ESPN standings--the Braves are obviously four games over .500 but their run differential is dead even (250 runs scored/250 runs against). Took some planning to make that happen.

USMA76
06-15-2014, 10:54 PM
I knew that, brother...I was joking along with you

Got it--my sarcasm detector is obviously broken 8^)

Julio3000
06-15-2014, 10:55 PM
Interesting trivia I picked up from the ESPN standings--the Braves are obviously four games over .500 but their run differential is dead even (250 runs scored/250 runs against). Took some planning to make that happen.

Good managing and veteran Lairdership.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 10:56 PM
Got it--my sarcasm detector is obviously broken 8^)

haha you better get that thing fixed man! You may need it around here...Quite a few people on here have a broke detector

USMA76
06-15-2014, 10:58 PM
haha you better get that thing fixed man! You may need it around here...Quite a few people on here have a broke detector

At my age, there's probably no fixing it.

thewupk
06-15-2014, 10:58 PM
Interesting trivia I picked up from the ESPN standings--the Braves are obviously four games over .500 but their run differential is dead even (250 runs scored/250 runs against). Took some planning to make that happen.

Yeah the Braves have taken some really bad beatings lately. They were -4 before todays game.

CyYoung31
06-15-2014, 11:07 PM
A split in Colorado and a series win vs a good Angels team. Are we really doing as poor right now as we all imagine?

Julio3000
06-15-2014, 11:09 PM
A split in Colorado and a series win vs a good Angels team. Are we really doing as poor right now as we all imagine?

Nope. If we can put enough runs on the board to rest the BP vs the Phils, we're looking pretty good IMO.

thewupk
06-15-2014, 11:10 PM
A split in Colorado and a series win vs a good Angels team. Are we really doing as poor right now as we all imagine?

Things could be worse.

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 11:12 PM
A split in Colorado and a series win vs a good Angels team. Are we really doing as poor right now as we all imagine?

We'd be in really good shape if our bullpen had held in its appearances. This team is just so close to the edge of taking off and you can just feel it...but it just hasnt quite happened yet...

CyYoung31
06-15-2014, 11:15 PM
We'd be in really good shape if our bullpen had held in its appearances. This team is just so close to the edge of taking off and you can just feel it...but it just hasnt quite happened yet...

Yeah, once the middle relief gets addressed we'll take off. When is Venters coming back."?

jsebe10
06-15-2014, 11:18 PM
Yeah, once the middle relief gets addressed we'll take off. When is Venters coming back."?

Aside from this "set back" that he had...I think they are targeting some time after the all-star break I believe... Still kind of too much to trust into him though...I wouldn't pin the fate of our BP on the back of Venters

cajunrevenge
06-15-2014, 11:26 PM
A split in Colorado and a series win vs a good Angels team. Are we really doing as poor right now as we all imagine?

What is bothering me is every time it looks like the team is going to go on a roll they crap the bed in the next series.

Sweep the cubs
Lose 4 of 6 to cards/giants
Win 5 of 7 from brewers/rockies
Lose 4 straight to red sox
Sweep the marlins
Lose 4 of 5 to mariners/dbags
Win 4/7 vs angels/rockies

Can we go 3 series in a row without ****ting the bed in one of them please.

cajunrevenge
06-15-2014, 11:33 PM
We'd be in really good shape if our bullpen had held in its appearances. This team is just so close to the edge of taking off and you can just feel it...but it just hasnt quite happened yet...

I agree, its really frustrating me. We added a good hitting 2b, a great setup man in Simmoms, amd Heywood is hitting like an MVP amd are still struggling to win and score runs. This is a really good team on paper, how we only have 4 more wins than the Astros boggles my mind.

UNCBlue012
06-16-2014, 02:02 AM
I just don't understand why we aren't at least seeing Heyward, JUP, Freeman, Gattis, TLS, CJoh, BJ, Simba.

GovClintonTyree
06-16-2014, 02:15 AM
TLS craps hits.

He has hits like The Enterprise had tribbles. Like Carter had pills. Lots of them.

What do you think of this?

Wade Boggs.

GovClintonTyree
06-16-2014, 02:20 AM
What is bothering me is every time it looks like the team is going to go on a roll they crap the bed in the next series.

Sweep the cubs
Lose 4 of 6 to cards/giants
Win 5 of 7 from brewers/rockies
Lose 4 straight to red sox
Sweep the marlins
Lose 4 of 5 to mariners/dbags
Win 4/7 vs angels/rockies

Can we go 3 series in a row without ****ting the bed in one of them please.

A lot of it is bullpen related. BJ sucks, but it's not the same as his epic 2013 suckage. And Uggla got buried a month ago. The hitting's not bad and getting better. The starters leveled out - still good - but the bullpen has been pretty awful. Carpenter, Walden, Avilan, Wood, even Kimbrel hasn't been historic. Simmons helps. Hale until last night. Patch some holes there, particularly on the left, and I expect we'll be right back in the hunt. But we're going to need a move.

GovClintonTyree
06-16-2014, 02:29 AM
Ok, new lineup:

TLS
J-Upt
Heyward
Gattis
Freeman
CJ
BJ
SImmons

Didn't the Governor propose this two weeks ago?

GovClintonTyree
06-16-2014, 02:32 AM
LMAO fckn Hamilton...coke head

I will proudly admit though that I was friends with a guy back home in CHarleston that supplied Josh Hamilton with his coke when he played for the Charleston Riverdogs...pretty cool

Oh, yeah. That's fan-****ing-tastic.

GovClintonTyree
06-16-2014, 02:35 AM
From what I read his arm is average for short so I don't know if he could handle third.



The throw from short is longer. If you can handle short, you can handle third.

tomahawkchop10
06-16-2014, 04:15 AM
Was hoping we were going to see a bear mauling when Pujos had to change his tampon there in the 9th. Would be great to sweep Philly before a big series in Washington. Would also be great to see TLS moved up in the lineup...play Rolling Stones "you can't always get what you want."

Runnin
06-16-2014, 04:48 AM
Doesn't it feel like The White Bear is really starting to find his way? I can't believe he's just a hit or 2 away from .300 and btw, I liked the way he protected Carpenter from Pujols today.

yeezus
06-16-2014, 06:04 AM
A game like last night is why Heyward cannot be let go. His contributions outside the box score are too important. He's our best player.

zitothebrave
06-16-2014, 06:13 AM
A game like last night is why Heyward cannot be let go. His contributions outside the box score are too important. He's our best player.

But I'm told he's not that much better than Freddie defensively.

The Chosen One
06-16-2014, 06:19 AM
But I'm told he's not that much better than Freddie defensively.

Is Hey still leading the league in DRS? Who's #2?

The Chosen One
06-16-2014, 06:23 AM
Not a bad gamble... literally took a perfect relay and he still may have gotten in there

Only gamble with Simmons and Heyward. And my opinion wasn't formed after that one play, he's been pretty crappy the entire year.

You don't make an out like that at home or 3rd with less than 2 outs.

zitothebrave
06-16-2014, 06:26 AM
Is Hey still leading the league in DRS? Who's #2?

Yes he is and Josh Donaldson is number 2.

thethe
06-16-2014, 06:52 AM
A game like last night is why Heyward cannot be let go. His contributions outside the box score are too important. He's our best player.

Evan Gattis is our best player!

All jokes aside, Heyward is an amazing BASEBALL PLAYER.

thethe
06-16-2014, 06:53 AM
Do you guys think LaStella could have done this at the start of the year?

I'm real geeked up that he is doing well but kind of irked that he wasn't starting the year at second.

thewupk
06-16-2014, 07:21 AM
Do you guys think LaStella could have done this at the start of the year?

I'm real geeked up that he is doing well but kind of irked that he wasn't starting the year at second.

Well La Stela will decline some as nobodys a .400 hitter. Could of he had runs like this to start the year? I think so yeah. Just hope fans don't start bitching once he does hit his first wall.

thethe
06-16-2014, 07:24 AM
Well La Stela will decline some as nobodys a .400 hitter. Could of he had runs like this to start the year? I think so yeah. Just hope fans don't start bitching once he does hit his first wall.

Well I for one don't think he will even hit 330 but I think having his potential 350-370 OBP in the lineup from the start of the year with better defense than Uggla might have helped!

thewupk
06-16-2014, 07:31 AM
Well I for one don't think he will even hit 330 but I think having his potential 350-370 OBP in the lineup from the start of the year with better defense than Uggla might have helped!

For sure. IMO he was our best option out of camp. I understand wanting to see what Uggla could do. He did have a good spring and there was hope he could be decent again. The only thing I would of done differently is when the plug was pulled on Uggla I would of brought TLS up. Not give Pastor and Pena a few weeks of playing time.

thethe
06-16-2014, 07:38 AM
Would you move him to the top of the order? Its hard because we have a lot of lefties at the top of the order. I think the only way it makes sense to move TLS up is to move Heyward down to the three hole. I hesitate doing that because of hte success he has had at hte top of the order but not that his power is starting to come through in games I am tempted to move him to the 3 hole. Another sticky part about this move is it would move Freeman down in the order with a bad hitter behind him. I think you almost have to leave BJ in the 2 hole to make the lineup flow.

TLS
BEEJ
Heyward
J-Upt
Free
Gattis
CJ
Simmons

Not ideal to have Gattis in the sixth hole but if you put Beej down in the order in this lineup:

TLS
J-Upt
Heyward
Gattis
Free
CJ
Beej
Simmons

Freeman gets no protection and won't be able to clean up the base paths. You have four guys in a row (including pitcher) that are just easy outs and I think pitchers can nagivate that lineup a bit easier.

Hard decisions for Freddi in my opinion. The easy part is knowing to move TLS up. The hard part is how do you do it.

Tapate50
06-16-2014, 07:40 AM
Well I for one don't think he will even hit 330 but I think having his potential 350-370 OBP in the lineup from the start of the year with better defense than Uggla might have helped!

Better to err on the safe side. I really like what I see though. He has really been a revelation for us. Been very solid on D also.