GDT: #71. 7:05 PM EST (Floyd) Braves @ (Zimmerman) Nats

[jsebe10]

1. Tommy La Stella (L) 2B
2. B.J. Upton (R) CF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Evan Gattis (R) C
5. Jason Heyward (L) RF
6. Chris Johnson (R) 3B
7. Ryan Doumit (S) LF
8. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
9. Gavin Floyd (R) P

1. Denard Span (L) CF
2. Anthony Rendon (R) 3B
3. Jayson Werth (R) RF
4. Adam LaRoche (L) 1B
5. Ryan Zimmerman (R) LF
6. Ian Desmond (R) SS
7. Danny Espinosa (S) 2B
8. Jose Lobaton (S) C
9. Jordan Zimmermann (R) P

BJ is back and JUp still feeling dizzy. One more day off per the manager.

[sturg33]

WOW.

FREDI IS A ****ING IDIOT

[jsebe10]

WOW.

FREDI IS A ****ING IDIOT

CJ #2....Doumit #6....BJ # 8...my logical choice.

[sturg33]

Just to be clear - we are now moving Heyward down in the lienup 4 spots, while maintaining BJ in the most important spot in the order

How does anyone defend this idiot?

[UNCBlue012]

I'd still guess justin goes there in the 2-hole once he's back. We've got to win this series. Got too.

[CyYoung31]

I'm not one who usually lives and dies with lineup construction, but if we don't see a top 4 of Heyward, Justin, Freeman, and Gattis by tomorrow, I'm going to riot.

[TDlxANDER]

If you don't count the pitcher....the lineup alternates left/right all the way down. That's so cool!

[Dalyn]

I'm not one who usually lives and dies with lineup construction, but if we don't see a top 4 of Heyward, Justin, Freeman, and Gattis by tomorrow, I'm going to riot.

That will likely never happen this year.

[thethe]

This is a joke.

[Bdawg2309]

CJ #2....Doumit #6....BJ # 8...my logical choice.

Cj would just ground into a DP whenever la stella gets on

[Dalyn]

This is a joke.

Oh. Good. I didn't think even Fredi would be this ignorant. What's the real lineup?

[TURBO]

Oh. Good. I didn't think even Fredi would be this ignorant. What's the real lineup?

No, that is the real lineup I believe.

[thethe]

Oh. Good. I didn't think even Fredi would be this ignorant. What's the real lineup?

I refuse to believe that its real.

[stpeteirish]

really hoping Doumit contributes tonight. Fredi's dumb, yes, but he goes with the hot hand, so if Doumit hits better than BJ (not hard to do) and Justin can return he might finally pull the trigger on benching BJ.

Schafer just hasn't performed well enough to push BJ aside, maybe Doumit can.

[BremanFan88]

Why get your best players the most ab's when you can go left/right/left all the way down the lineup.

"And again, it's like poetry, it's sort of, they rhyme."

[zitothebrave]

This is a joke.

This is Braves Country.

[Dalyn]

No, that is the real lineup I believe.

http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/face12.gif?w=500&h=366

[USMA76]

This is a joke.

Why am I not laughing?

[rico43]

Just to be clear - we are now moving Heyward down in the lienup 4 spots, while maintaining BJ in the most important spot in the order

How does anyone defend this idiot?

Uh, he won 96 games last year?

[rico43]

Isn't it at least fair to say that Doumit has earned some playing time? And Fredi has always believed in going L/R down the lineup. Why does this stuff come as such a shock to some of you.

[BremanFan88]

Isn't it at least fair to say that Doumit has earned some playing time? And Fredi has always believed in going L/R down the lineup. Why does this stuff come as such a shock to some of you.

It's shocking because it's stupid. How can anyone defend BJ in the two hole and Heyward down in the order?

[stpeteirish]

It's shocking because it's stupid. How can anyone defend BJ in the two hole and Heyward down in the order?

I could defend Heyward fifth as long as it was the other Upton hitting second. TLS might actually be a better leadoff man than Heyward. And you can certainly defend Justin, Freddie and Gattis in 2,3,4.

[BremanFan88]

I could defend Heyward fifth as long as it was the other Upton hitting second. TLS might actually be a better leadoff man than Heyward. And you can certainly defend Justin, Freddie and Gattis in 2,3,4.

"Might" but not proven. You don't put an elite base runner down in the 5 hole where his ability to score from 1st on a double is completely gone because of the garbage hitting behind him.

[tomahawkchop10]

Not much to say that everyone already hasnt. All freddi supporters just chew on this for awhile, Heyward was moved down in the lineup while bj stays...anyone who thinks they can understand or defend this move is crazier than freddi. At least Floyd looks good.

[TURBO]

Who is that in the booth?

[Garmel]

Who is that in the booth?

Paul Byrd

[tvsportscaster]

Who is that in the booth?

Paul Byrd

[tvsportscaster]

By the way, I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like the rest of the Braves have now rubbed off on Tommy LaStella. He doesn't look like he has the same patient approach. And he hasn't gotten a hit since moving to the leadoff spot.

[tomahawkchop10]

By the way, I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like the rest of the Braves have now rubbed off on Tommy LaStella. He doesn't look like he has the same patient approach. And he hasn't gotten a hit since moving to the leadoff spot.

1 full game, and 2 abs today. Give it some time. Also get someone who can hit behind him.

[tomahawkchop10]

Here we go!! 18 straight for the bear. Let's go CJ, no DP.

[Garmel]

Oh no. CJ's up with the bases loaded.

[tomahawkchop10]

CJ!!! Boy I was afraid that was ganna be a DP.

[Garmel]

CJ!!!!

[tomahawkchop10]

What's going on?? braves nats and the gdt is dead...

[cajunrevenge]

What's going on?? braves nats and the gdt is dead...

Didn't you hear? The season is over already. I think the nats clinched already.

[TURBO]

Im here. Just the threads have been making the rough games lately even more unbearable.

[USMA76]

I don't know if it's a curve or a slider but Gavin Floyd's breaking ball is making Nats hitters look foolish right now.

[tomahawkchop10]

Didn't you hear? The season is over already. I think the nats clinched already.

Ahh that's true. Meaningless games aren't that fun to talk about.

[MrShwag]

Kelly La Stella having troubles

[tomahawkchop10]

Ugh tommy is like 1 for 15 since making my fantasy team. Picked him up purely cause I needed BA too...=/

[Garmel]

Kelly La Stella having troubles

Yep. 0 for his last 15.

[USMA76]

Ahh that's true. Meaningless games aren't that fun to talk about.

Yeah, now we know what Mets fans have felt like every August and September for the past six years.

[thewupk]

Ugh tommy is like 1 for 15 since making my fantasy team. Picked him up purely cause I needed BA too...=/

He was moved to the leadoff spot too soon imo. I would of gave him until the ASB and if he was still hitting well while walking and not striking out then go for it. Top of the order needs to be Heyward, Justin, Freeman, Gattis. Then after that do whatever.

[Dalyn]

Yep. 0 for his last 15.

Stella! will double his next at-bat.

[Garmel]

LOL! Floyd thought that was the third out.

[USMA76]

Somebody needs to tell Gavin Floyd he can't walk off the mound until there are three outs in the inning.

[Garmel]

Stella! will double his next at-bat.

He very well could. I'm not worried about this minor slump. It was bound to happen as hot as he was. He'll be out of it soon.

[USMA76]

So Jordan Zimmerman's batting average is the same as Jason Heyward's?

[PurpleBrave]

Ugh tommy is like 1 for 15 since making my fantasy team. Picked him up purely cause I needed BA too...=/

It's not often the pitcher poses a bigger threat in the lineup than the 2 hitter

[Julio3000]

**** the Nats.

That is all.

Pull 'em through for me, folks.

[tomahawkchop10]

It's kinda like tommy is batting 8th and needs to clear bj.

[tomahawkchop10]

There we go tommy!!

[stpeteirish]

BJ with RISP=money in the bank.

[Garmel]

Not getting the bunt down might have cost us a run.

[tomahawkchop10]

I don't care what bj does here, it's a disgrace he's hitting 2nd.

[tomahawkchop10]

BJ with RISP=money in the bank.

This made me smile.

[Bdawg2309]

Ball

[Garmel]

What a bull**** 3rd strike on BJ.

[tomahawkchop10]

That wasn't even close. BJ sucks enough without that call going against him. For once he had a real reason to complain.

[USMA76]

The third strike to BJ looked like it never had the plate. Hope they show it on FoxTrack in the next inning.

[Ampere]

As bad as BJ has been, I don't think I've ever seen a hitter get more balls called strikes against them.

[AerchAngel]

What a bull**** 3rd strike on BJ.

Considering his track record, we all should have seen that coming. When he learns how to hit, marginal pitches will not be called against him.

[stpeteirish]

why do I feel certain this one's going to slip away?

[tomahawkchop10]

Uhoh

[Garmel]

Please tell me that's not an elbow problem for Floyd.

[tomahawkchop10]

That looked bad.

[jsebe10]

Are you fckn kidding me!?! No Floyd

[USMA76]

Holding my breath on news about Floyd now. Bad news on him is all we need. :facepalm:

[waraueagle]

Yhgtbfkm!

[Ampere]

Elbow problem with recent Tommy John surgery? Good thing we sent Wood to get stretched out. Hopefully something minor, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Hawk]

Wow, his elbow was swelling really quick.

[waraueagle]

Did y'all see that knot?

[Five]

Time to fix this Tommy John ****

[tomahawkchop10]

I don't want to be Mr doom and gloom, but that looked bad. A lot like medlens, a guy who has felt it before and went right out. Didn't try to throw or anything, hope I'm wrong.

[Krovahn]

Floyd got injured? Thanks Fredi.

[thewupk]

Considering his track record, we all should have seen that coming. When he learns how to hit, marginal pitches will not be called against him.

That shouldn't matter whether a ball is a strike or a ball. It's just B S umpiring.

[tomahawkchop10]

I'm depressed.

[braves31win]

Did y'all see that knot?

looked like the bursa outside of the elbow, very easily gets inflamed and swollen, yes I am a doctor
**fingers crossed**

[USMA76]

...and a leadoff double by Werth against Varvaro--just splendid.

[thewupk]

Shouldn't be a shock that Floyd got hurt. Was just a matter of time with this rotation. I'm sure Wood will soon follow since he has already had it too.

[BlackwaterPark]

I dont see where it was swelling

[tomahawkchop10]

If Floyd is out, that means a whole season of harang, unless we make a trade...:facepalm:

[rico43]

Doh! Missed hearing about Juan Jaime's callup. Beato onto DL. Thought Hoyt was replacing Beato, but Gwinnett suddenly running low on pitchers FWIW.

[UNCBlue012]

Gavin too? What the heck. What are we doing wrong baseball gods?

[CyYoung31]

How come the bad pitchers like Harang never get TJS?

[tomahawkchop10]

Good job working around the leadoff double by varvaro.

Hey what do u know, freddie is leading off another inning.

[USMA76]

Three ground ball outs to Simmons after a leadoff double. Nice work by Varvaro.

[Dalyn]

How come the bad pitchers like Harang never get TJS?

An arm must only have so many outs in it and they don't run through them as quickly. But I like Harang.

[rico43]

Elbows that need TJ don't usually blow up like that, I don't think. Could be bursa sac, could be scar tissue. Maybe it snapped in half and is dangling by skin. We'll find out soon enough, but Alex Wood's next start had dam well be with the A-Braves.

[thewupk]

at least we got out of the inning with no runs scored. hopefully floyd is ok as he's been a beast all year.

[Five]

How come the bad pitchers like Harang never get TJS?

LOL yes

[tvsportscaster]

Floyd got injured? Thanks Fredi.

And how is that Fredi's fault?

[tomahawkchop10]

And how is that Fredi's fault?

He's joking that some people blame everything on freddi.

[tomahawkchop10]

Great ab freddie. Time for a Gattis bomb.

[tomahawkchop10]

Gattis is the man!!

[tvsportscaster]

Shame about Floyd, because right now he's the Braves 2nd best starter behind Teheran. I guess we'll see Alex Wood a little sooner now.

[USMA76]

An "add on" run would be huge here.

[rico43]

No matter what happens here, this is why I'm looking forward to Heyward hitting lower in the order.

[Dalyn]

Heyward is responding well to the move to fifth. If Justin grabs the #2 spot, I could live with Heyward there.

[tomahawkchop10]

Maybe we should have ran on him. Zimmerman makes Juan Pierre's arm look like puigs.

[rico43]

Got to run on Zimmerman's arm there, every time. Fredi looked like he thought so, too.

[Five]

Bwahahahaha

[Dalyn]

Maybe we should have ran on him. Zimmerman makes Juan Pierre's arm look like puigs.

He would throw home and nail Gattis at second.

[tomahawkchop10]

I'll take it!! But seriously who saw Zimmerman throw in? I didn't know if I should laugh or cry. Looked like a little kid who'd never held a baseball.

[jpack1]

Lord BABIP is living right tonight.

[Dalyn]

I love Johnson. I admit it.

[tomahawkchop10]

I love Johnson. I admit it.

It's a love/relationship.

[tomahawkchop10]

That was a chest high strike call.

[Dalyn]

Good thing we have Schafer here to make Uggla and BJ feel good.

[tomahawkchop10]

Good thing we have Schafer here to make Uggla and BJ feel good.

Ya it's pretty sad when bj can be this bad, but he's still our best option in cf.

[Ampere]

Ya it's pretty sad when bj can be this bad, but he's still our best option in cf.

Well, he's our best option if we don't want the wear and tear on Heyward in CF.

[tomahawkchop10]

Well, he's our best option if we don't want the wear and tear on Heyward in CF.

Doumit has been pretty bad as well. Not sure the offensive upgrade would be worth the defensive downgrade.

[tomahawkchop10]

Please take a pitch jup.

[PurpleBrave]

Floyd looks like he's toast. Maybe it's time to yoyo Wood back into his SP role

[Dalyn]

Floyd looks like he's toast. Maybe it's time to yoyo Wood back into his SP role

Should be able to get 10 starts out of him.

[stpeteirish]

looked like the bursa outside of the elbow, very easily gets inflamed and swollen, yes I am a doctor
**fingers crossed**

and you drain the fluid. Problem is it often keeps coming back and you have to remove the bursa. Not a real big deal if that's what it is.

[bravesnumberone]

Would have liked more there.

[Ampere]

Floyd looks like he's toast. Maybe it's time to yoyo Wood back into his SP role

Wood was already sent to AAA to stretch his arm for starting. He's made two starts down there and given up one run in 8.2 innings. 8 K's.

[UNCBlue012]

Justin's average is down to .276.., want to actually hit now or?

[USMA76]

Would have liked more there.

Especially off a pitcher who only threw something like two strikes in eight pitches.

[Dalyn]

Fredi is going to be really confused when he can't bring in Carpenter here.

[Dalyn]

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[jsebe10]

Haha we are about to light Stammen's ass up!!

[tomahawkchop10]

:fredi:
Fredi is going to be really confused when he can't bring in Carpenter here.

[jsebe10]

I'll take it!! But seriously who saw Zimmerman throw in? I didn't know if I should laugh or cry. Looked like a little kid who'd never held a baseball.

You know he had shoulder surgery right? Dudes arm is toast bc of management making him change his style of throwing. He'll be at 1B next year when Adam is dumped.

[waraueagle]

looked like the bursa outside of the elbow, very easily gets inflamed and swollen, yes I am a doctor
**fingers crossed**Well, maybe it's not as bad as everyone's thinking.

[tomahawkchop10]

You know he had shoulder surgery right? Dudes arm is toast bc of management making him change his style of throwing. He'll be at 1B next year when Adam is dumped.

Ya I know, that's why I said I don't know if he looked funny or sad. Funny looking, but you never want to see someone deal with injuries.

[weso1]

Nothing like playing the Nationals to get us back on track.

[tomahawkchop10]

Dare I say freeman is backkk.

[USMA76]

BJ knows he has to swing since home plate for him is about a foot wider than anyone else's. Seriously, it's a bad situation e.g. struggling at the plate while having to cover a BS strike zone.

[jsebe10]

Folks, you can put lipstick and a dress on a bull but it's still a bull. Zimmerman is an IF.

[tomahawkchop10]

This ump is garbage.

[jsebe10]

That ball was a fckn foot inside

[Dalyn]

Folks, you can put lipstick and a dress on a bull but it's still a bull.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TKXjuMCosLk/UkyM68DcKfI/AAAAAAAAAgk/BUAetKz0I1w/s1600/UuBLclADJR3RUqo7wrlxWjl72eJkfbmt4t8yenImKBU8NzMXDb ey6A_oozMjJETc.jpg

[USMA76]

This ump is garbage.

If this ump gives Kimbrel that pitch that's a foot inside the ninth inning won't take long.

[tomahawkchop10]

Well at least the ump is consistently bad.

[jsebe10]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TKXjuMCosLk/UkyM68DcKfI/AAAAAAAAAgk/BUAetKz0I1w/s1600/UuBLclADJR3RUqo7wrlxWjl72eJkfbmt4t8yenImKBU8NzMXDb ey6A_oozMjJETc.jpg

Haha.

[tomahawkchop10]

No walks please.

[TDlxANDER]

Is this Paul Byrd in the booth?

[Garmel]

Is this Paul Byrd in the booth?

Yep.

[USMA76]

Is this Paul Byrd in the booth?

yes

[jsebe10]

Why does Rendon and Spann make more nervous than any other hitter in that God foresaken spit of a lineup?

[tomahawkchop10]

Why does Rendon and Spann make more nervous than any other hitter in that God foresaken spit of a lineup?

Rendon is solid.

[bravesnumberone]

Quit ****ing nibbling with a 3-run lead and go the **** after people.

[tomahawkchop10]

Stop effing around. Throw fastballs for strikes.

[Dalyn]

Quit ****ing nibbling with a 3-run lead and go the **** after people.

He hasn't pitched in a coon's age.

[TDlxANDER]

Yep.

Thanks...he's awful

[jsebe10]

Throwing too many damn pitches.

[tomahawkchop10]

Dirty.

[USMA76]

Got away with a bad pitch to Werth.

[Dalyn]

Thanks...he's awful

http://i.usatoday.net/Wires2Web/20080812/1446500322_Indians_Red_Sox_Trade_Baseballx.jpg

[bravesnumberone]

He hasn't pitched in a coon's age.

I know. But I expect him to approach batters like he just did Werth.

[tomahawkchop10]

Got away with a bad pitch to Werth.

It's not a bad pitch when he's been pumping it in 97 and your guessing fastball.

[jsebe10]

Got away with a bad pitch to Werth.

Which one? The slider he swung and missed ? That pitch was nasty! Had Worth out on his front foot. Damn good pitch.

[tomahawkchop10]

Ballgame. We're the nats daddy!!

[UNCBlue012]

Thid team always brings it for the Nats. It's awesome. Haha good win! I pray Floyd is okay. Good to see Freddie hitting again!!

[bravesnumberone]

Yessir.

Here's to hoping the Nats are the medicine to the abortion of a performance we've put on since that 17-7 start.

[jsebe10]

Evening btches!!! Good game boys.

This sorry ass Nats team is not better than ours! Get some rest and let's beat the piss out of these infected pu$$y holes on the morrow.

[zitothebrave]

Only 2 strikeouts for Kimbrel, what a slacker.

Also shame Floyd gt hurt, hopefully it isn't bad. He was dealing today.

[mossy]

I wonder if we'll get any pertinent remarks from Espinosa tonight...

Always nice to beat the Nats!

[tomahawkchop10]

Plesac continues to slober the nats d!$k. Jeeze these idiots still think they are God's gift to baseball. At least Reynolds told him to give the braves credit.

[tomahawkchop10]

Dang, yanks own the Bluejays worse than we own the nats.

[Runnin]

Floyd was really airing it out tonight. Hit 94 at least once that I saw.

[jsebe10]

I wonder if we'll get any pertinent remarks from Espinosa tonight...

Always nice to beat the Nats!

Doubtful. Last time he opened that cock sucker of his he got his ass air smiled to AAA.

[tomahawkchop10]

Floyd was really airing it out tonight. Hit 94 at least once that I saw.

Most times doesn't velocity drop the game they get hurt when it's a ucl tear? At least that's an encouraging sign.

[USMA76]

It's not a bad pitch when he's been pumping it in 97 and your guessing fastball.

His heat on the previous pitches is why he got away with a "hanger in the strike zone." Kimbrel was fortunate Werth didn't hammer it.

[Runnin]

Floyd was really airing it out tonight. Hit 94 at least once that I saw.
And every pitch was moving like crazy, even his FB. Maybe he was too on his game and overcooking everything.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves 1m
Gavin Floyd's x-rays revealed a fracture of the olecranon. He will return to ATL for evaluation by Braves docs tomorrow.

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves 1m
Floyd will be placed on the DL and a corresponding move will be announced tomorrow.

[stpeteirish]

Evening btches!!! Good game boys.

This sorry ass Nats team is not better than ours! Get some rest and let's beat the piss out of these infected pu$$y holes on the morrow.

its pus, not piss in infected pussi holes. Must be a typo, I'm sure you know that.

[Dalyn]

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves 1m
Gavin Floyd's x-rays revealed a fracture of the olecranon. He will return to ATL for evaluation by Braves docs tomorrow.

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves 1m
Floyd will be placed on the DL and a corresponding move will be announced tomorrow.

****.

[stpeteirish]

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves 1m
Gavin Floyd's x-rays revealed a fracture of the olecranon. He will return to ATL for evaluation by Braves docs tomorrow.

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves 1m
Floyd will be placed on the DL and a corresponding move will be announced tomorrow.

there goes some serious performance bonus money.

[Ampere]

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves 1m
Gavin Floyd's x-rays revealed a fracture of the olecranon. He will return to ATL for evaluation by Braves docs tomorrow.

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves 1m
Floyd will be placed on the DL and a corresponding move will be announced tomorrow.

Well, it's not the UCL but he'll still be out for awhile. How long depends on the severity of the fracture, probably at least a couple months - likely longer.

[Dalyn]

Last I remember is Zumaya, and it ended his career. :Sad:

[Ampere]

Last I remember is Zumaya, and it ended his career. :Sad:

No, he came back from that, although his fracture was a bad one. Zumaya tore his UCL in 2012 and needed Tommy John Surgery. After that he retired.

[nsacpi]

Shame for Floyd. He pitched really well for us.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Kevin McAlpin ‏@KevinMcAlpin 1m
Floyd says he felt a pop on the final curveball to Werth.

[tomahawkchop10]

We're going to need to make a trade at the deadline to replace harang.

[jsebe10]

We're going to need to make a trade at the deadline to replace harang.

We've got Hale and Wood ready to pitch. Need to send David down to stretch him out and bring wood back up.

[Garmel]

We're going to need to make a trade at the deadline to replace harang.

We might just go with Hale.

[bravesnumberone]

Hate that about Floyd, he's been pretty good for us. How come Uggla can't fracture his ass or something and allow us not to waste a bench spot?

[Dalyn]

Hale save us.

[Millwood1Hitter]

Damn really liked Floyd, he was solid for us.

Unfrackinbelievable

[tomahawkchop10]

Sorry, but I'm not really comfortable with relying on hale. Maybe the braves front office is though. Idk well have to wait and see.

[nsacpi]

My guess is Thomas will be stretched out to serve as a fifth starter if Harang continues to falter or some other injury crops up.

[tvsportscaster]

We might just go with Hale.

Don't think so, I believe you will see a trade I don't know if it will be for a Price or Shark it may depend on whether or not Harang continues to regress, but rest assured Alex Wood will be back in the rotation.

[Dalyn]

http://cmgajcmarkbradley.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/050514_braves_cc19.jpg?w=640

[Braves78]

Curious as to why everyone is talking so bad about Harang yeah he has had a couple bad games but he deserves to keep his spot over Santana. Santana has been garbage and the day he walked I believe it was Napoli who was batting .167 with an 8 run lead and 2 outs I knew right then he has no idea what he is doing on the mound.

[thewupk]

Hopefully the offense can pick it up. With Floyd out our pitching is going to get even worse and it's been on a downward slide for some time now. Allowing more runs then we have scored we are pretty lucky we have owned the Nats to this point or we would be facing a big deficit. Need to get BJ out of the 2 hole ASAP and go with La Stella, Justin, Freeman, Gattis, Heyward if they are determined to keep La Stella #1.

What sucks is their is likely no upgrades for the offense minus bench help which is a big need as well. The 3 laggards on offense BJ, Simmons, and CJ are all here for awhile. Not that you would replace Simmons anyways.

[Julio3000]

This really sucks. I thought Floyd was going to be a hoss for us down the stretch. I feel bad for him and for the club.

This is why depth is a good thing.

[tomahawkchop10]

Curious as to why everyone is talking so bad about Harang yeah he has had a couple bad games but he deserves to keep his spot over Santana. Santana has been garbage and the day he walked I believe it was Napoli who was batting .167 with an 8 run lead and 2 outs I knew right then he has no idea what he is doing on the mound.

It was Nava. But the reason everyone is more worried about harang is sample size and "stuff". Look what each guy did last year. Harang was terrible, while santana was above average. We all knew it was a matter of time before Harang turned back into a pumpkin and I'm afraid that time is rapidly approaching. There is a reason santana got 14× the amount of money.

[UNCBlue012]

I said before the season that I thought Floyd would be awesome for us and until he left tonight, he was fantastic. I hope he's back quickly but it looks like we have work to do. Teheran, Minor, Santana, Harang, Wood. Though I do think that's solid, I don't think it'll cut it down the wretch.

[tomahawkchop10]

I said before the season that I thought Floyd would be awesome for us and until he left tonight, he was fantastic. I hope he's back quickly but it looks like we have work to do. Teheran, Minor, Santana, Harang, Wood. Though I do think that's solid, I don't think it'll cut it down the wretch.

I'm really afraid Harang will post a 5+era from here out...

[Runnin]

What tough luck for Floyd. This was by far his most dominant outing yet, and in such a big game too.

[50PoundHead]

Is this Paul Byrd in the booth?

Paul Byrd. Interesting player. One of the few who came through Atlanta twice (fairly short stints both times). Looked at his career stats and didn't realize he won over 100 games in the big leagues and stuck around for 14 seasons. Braves just drafted his son in the 39th round of the June draft, but from all accounts, he's headed to LSU (Paul's alma mater).

What a lot of Braves' fan remember Byrd for is the fracas he got in with Eddie Perez during the 1999 season. Byrd hit Perez with a pitch at one point in the game and when Byrd came up to the plate later to hit, words were exchanged between he and Perez, and all of a sudden hell breaks loose. It had been a very p*ssy game and Smoltz had just been ejected for hitting a Phillies' hitter. One of the hilarious things about the fight is that Byrd kind of curled up inside the pile-up and Eddie thought Byrd was seriously injured. Turns out that Byrd had turned to prayer in the midst of the scrum. Just an interesting little tidbit from Braves' history.

[stpeteirish]

I'm really afraid Harang will post a 5+era from here out...

that's almost a given. what I'm really afraid of is that Minor and Santana will continue to pitch like they have (badly). Then we really can't fix the rotation.

[CyYoung31]

Minor and Santana will be fine.