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jsebe10
06-21-2014, 04:31 PM
1. Tommy La Stella (L) 2B
2. B.J. Upton (R) CF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Evan Gattis (R) C
5. Jason Heyward (L) RF
6. Justin Upton (R) LF
7. Chris Johnson (R) 3B
8. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
9. Julio Teheran (R) P

1. Denard Span (L) CF
2. Anthony Rendon (R) 3B
3. Jayson Werth (R) RF
4. Adam LaRoche (L) 1B
5. Ryan Zimmerman (R) LF
6. Ian Desmond (R) SS
7. Danny Espinosa (S) 2B
8. Jose Lobaton (S) C
9. Doug Fister (L) P

Could have gone with BJ outta the 2 hole, but whateves. Let's take the series over these ass clowns.

ATL 38 35
WSN 37 35 0.5
MIA 37 36 1.0
PHI 34 38 3.5
NYM 33 41 5.5

jpack1
06-21-2014, 04:35 PM
You would think BJ was the Upton that has been a good Brave. WOW. Fredi has really lost it.

nsacpi
06-21-2014, 04:36 PM
Fredi messing with us by batting the Lesser Upton second and the Greater Upton sixth.

Expecting a huge game from the guy with tired knees.

jpack1
06-21-2014, 04:37 PM
Inside Fredi's head. How does he rationalize this you think?

Dalyn
06-21-2014, 04:38 PM
Justin is back to confirm Fredi is a ****ing idiot!

CyYoung31
06-21-2014, 04:40 PM
Fredi....

NinersSBChamps
06-21-2014, 04:41 PM
I know Justin has been cold lately. However BJ has been cold for over nearly 230 games and had isn't cemented in the two hole.

Heyward
06-21-2014, 04:41 PM
You would BJ was the Upton that has been a good Brave. WOW. Fredi has really lost it.

Spelling mistake?

I like the lineup minus BJ 2nd, and JUp 6th.

Other than that, it's as good as we can ask for.

If they are gonna have Tommy leadoff then TLS, JUp, FF, Gattis, Heyward, BJ/CJ, Simmons, P is our best lineup.

jpack1
06-21-2014, 04:41 PM
Fredi probably gets way to much flack but it's things like this that make people say, wow, this guy is a ****ing idiot.

NinersSBChamps
06-21-2014, 04:44 PM
Fredi probably gets way to much flack but it's things like this that make people say, wow, this guy is a ****ing idiot.

It's this very reason why he gets flack. He has trotted this bum out there in the same spot in the lineup for nearly three months. His batting average has never once resembled a major leaguer.

zitothebrave
06-21-2014, 04:46 PM
Boo this lineup

That's the maximum creativity I have in me. Harvesting all my energy for tomorrow.

thethe
06-21-2014, 04:47 PM
I understand the arguments about "lengthening the lineup" but this is just insanity. BJ cannot be getting the second most AB's on our team. In no universe does that make sense.

Heyward
06-21-2014, 04:50 PM
Even as someone who has defended BJ, there is no reason he should be 2nd, and JUp 6th.

The Nats shouldnt bother throwing JUp anything in the strikezone with who is behind him.

Heyward
06-21-2014, 04:53 PM
Fredi probably gets way to much flack but it's things like this that make people say, wow, this guy is a ****ing idiot.

Fredi/managers get too much hate imo, they dont have THAT much of an impact on the games.

That being said, no reason BJ should be 2nd, and JUp 6th, none at all.

jsebe10
06-21-2014, 04:58 PM
Even as someone who has defended BJ, there is no reason he should be 2nd, and JUp 6th.

The Nats shouldnt bother throwing JUp anything in the strikezone with who is behind him.

Why?

Johnson is 13 for his 35 and hitting about .372 in that time span...He is the VERY LEAST of our problems right now...He is swinging a really good bat right now..

jpack1
06-21-2014, 05:02 PM
I remember back at the end of spring thinking BJ at 2. Wow, that won't last 2 weeks as bad as he is. He's been terrible and still there 3 fing months later. That is just insane.

Heyward
06-21-2014, 05:20 PM
Why?

Johnson is 13 for his 35 and hitting about .372 in that time span...He is the VERY LEAST of our problems right now...He is swinging a really good bat right now..

If you're the Nats, i take my chances with CJ over JUp, period despite CJ hitting better as of late.

JMO.

jsebe10
06-21-2014, 05:23 PM
If you're the Nats, i take my chances with CJ over JUp, period despite CJ hitting better as of late.

JMO.

Well hopefully they have that mindset because CJ crushes Nats pitching...I like him in this game tonight..

thewupk
06-21-2014, 05:23 PM
I really try not to bash Freddi and care too much about lineups construction but BJ really has no place in the #2 hole with Justin #6. At least Schaffer is out of the lineup.

Dalyn
06-21-2014, 05:37 PM
This would be really close to our best possible lineup if Fredi moved Justin up to #2. Just crazy not to.

Dalyn
06-21-2014, 05:40 PM
Inserting a **** player #2 in an attempt to "balance" the lineup is why this team does not have big innings very often and knock pitchers out early.

jason27nc
06-21-2014, 05:42 PM
Maybe Fredi thinks they are twins and has them confused?

jpack1
06-21-2014, 05:44 PM
Inserting a **** player #2 in an attempt to "balance" the lineup is why this team does not have big innings very often and knock pitchers out early.

So true. How can you put your worst hitter right I the middle of your best hitters. Just makes zero sense. It's like saying, no I don't want to score in bunches, I prefer just 1 run here and there. Wait for the random solo home run.

jpack1
06-21-2014, 05:45 PM
Maybe Fredi thinks they are twins and has them confused?

Maybe the most logical excuse I've heard. Brilliant

BremanFan88
06-21-2014, 05:45 PM
Well hopefully they have that mindset because CJ crushes Nats pitching...I like him in this game tonight..

I'll never understand why anyone throws Johnson a strike. He and his 2% walk total and his ability to K 25% of the time says he'll get himself out if you let him.

parkvadawg
06-21-2014, 05:46 PM
If you're the Nats, i take my chances with CJ over JUp, period despite CJ hitting better as of late.

JMO.

As would anybody

parkvadawg
06-21-2014, 05:48 PM
BJ being in the two hole is as misguided as the folks that think Gladiator is better than Braveheart

Dalyn
06-21-2014, 05:56 PM
I think Fredi is trying to send BJ a message and he just isn't getting it.

"Hey, BJ, I want you in the 2-hole."

UNCBlue012
06-21-2014, 06:09 PM
There is no logical reason for BJ in the 2-hole. I don't care what Fredi has to say. It makes no sense and it's stupid. Not only has he not hit much of anywhere but his defense hasn't been that great as of late. That being said, I'm just glad justin is back. The lineup is so much stronger with him there. Also, I've seen a lot of GoT references lately... So, Hodor!

thewupk
06-21-2014, 06:09 PM
I think Fredi is trying to send BJ a message and he just isn't getting it.

"Hey, BJ, I want you in the 2-hole."

well there is that

Runnin
06-21-2014, 06:10 PM
I'll never understand why anyone throws Johnson a strike. He and his 2% walk total and his ability to K 25% of the time says he'll get himself out if you let him.
I think that's the general scouting report on our team, not just CJ.

MadduxFanII
06-21-2014, 06:13 PM
I'll never understand why anyone throws Johnson a strike. He and his 2% walk total and his ability to K 25% of the time says he'll get himself out if you let him.

Ditto. There is literally no slider too far outside for him.

CyYoung31
06-21-2014, 06:16 PM
Ditto. There is literally no slider too far outside for him.

Wait, are we talking about Laird or CJ?

USMA76
06-21-2014, 06:17 PM
Just turned on Fox and I'm getting the Tigers vs. the Indians so I'll be reduced to listening to it on MLB radio.

tomahawkchop10
06-21-2014, 06:17 PM
I know I'm late to the complaining party, but bj 2nd and jup 6th is just retardtation.

TURBO
06-21-2014, 06:19 PM
Im blacked out again. Makes no sense.

edit: nevermind. Its on Fox for me.

Runnin
06-21-2014, 06:20 PM
LOL

thewupk
06-21-2014, 06:20 PM
bad ab by gattis there

Heyward
06-21-2014, 06:21 PM
Damn, Gattis.

Heyward
06-21-2014, 06:21 PM
bad ab by gattis there

He got jammed, good pitch by Fister.

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 06:22 PM
Im blacked out again. Makes no sense.

edit: nevermind. Its on Fox for me.

MLB.tv showing it for me on my ps4 dawg!

thewupk
06-21-2014, 06:22 PM
He got jammed, good pitch by Fister.

yeah and no reason to swing 1-0

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 06:23 PM
Eesh, Jason - glad you got a piece of that.

I so prefer his batting stance from his rookie year.

Heyward
06-21-2014, 06:23 PM
Good play from Espinosa.

Heyward
06-21-2014, 06:29 PM
Freeman :Alone:

thewupk
06-21-2014, 06:29 PM
wow hell of a play by freddie

Five
06-21-2014, 06:29 PM
Flashing leather

UNCBlue012
06-21-2014, 06:29 PM
Holy freeeeeman

thewupk
06-21-2014, 06:29 PM
6 pitchers by julio. lol

Runnin
06-21-2014, 06:30 PM
There's some range for your uzr Freddie.

MadduxFanII
06-21-2014, 06:32 PM
Verducci is going to rant about the importance of swinging at the first pitch for the whole game, isn't he? He did the same thing last year in one of our TBS games.

thewupk
06-21-2014, 06:33 PM
Verducci is going to rant about the importance of swinging at the first pitch for the whole game, isn't he? He did the same thing last year in one of our TBS games.

For this team I would agree if the pitch is good. We are too prone for the K.

Heyward
06-21-2014, 06:35 PM
6 pitchers by julio. lol

Fister is on a low-count too, both pitchers work fast.

thewupk
06-21-2014, 06:36 PM
Fister is on a low-count too, both pitchers work fast.

Yeah. Lots of hacking going on. NL East baseball is a complete opposite of AL East baseball.

thethe
06-21-2014, 06:43 PM
Julio being dominant yet economical. Great sign!

Heyward
06-21-2014, 06:46 PM
Julio being dominant yet economical. Great sign!

Welp...

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 06:50 PM
Julio being dominant yet economical. Great sign!

You posting is always a great sign.

Heil thethe!

thewupk
06-21-2014, 06:51 PM
bj can look so good during his ab and then just pisses it away looking at a pitch like that.

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 06:52 PM
Can't BJ at least swing on his Ks?

He's seriously my least favorite Brave ever since '96.

Give me the Fick!

NCSooner
06-21-2014, 06:53 PM
bj can look so good during his ab and then just pisses it away looking at a pitch like that.it almost seemed like he disagreed with the call, even though it was right down the middle. Vision problems?

Runnin
06-21-2014, 06:53 PM
Hint for BJ: A strike thrower like Fister will probably throw you a strike on a full count. I think it's called guarding the plate with 2 strikes.

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:04 PM
why pitch to their hottest player?

Heyward
06-21-2014, 07:05 PM
Would have walked Rendon there.

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:09 PM
middle of the order needs to do work here

57Brave
06-21-2014, 07:10 PM
Hint for BJ: A strike thrower like Fister will probably throw you a strike on a full count. I think it's called guarding the plate with 2 strikes.

Is it me or are the majority of 3rd strikes on BJ up around the letters
??

The Chosen One
06-21-2014, 07:10 PM
Ever since Fredi moved TLS to leadoff he's been pedestrian. Thanks again Fredi for screwing up.

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:11 PM
chased ball 4 there

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:15 PM
weak inning

MadduxFanII
06-21-2014, 07:26 PM
FOX interviews Gerald Laird, and the nation's women all simultaneously soak their panties.

NinersSBChamps
06-21-2014, 07:26 PM
Even as someone who has defended BJ, there is no reason he should be 2nd, and JUp 6th.

The Nats shouldnt bother throwing JUp anything in the strikezone with who is behind him.

Exactly how does someone defend anything he does?

Krovahn
06-21-2014, 07:28 PM
Harlod Reynolds has called Gerald Laird 'Joe' several times... Come on, we all know his name is Fredi.

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:33 PM
lol chris johnson

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:37 PM
should of kept heyward at leadoff

skidlee
06-21-2014, 07:37 PM
Ever since Fredi moved TLS to leadoff he's been pedestrian. Thanks again Fredi for screwing up.

Why am I not suprised someone would say this.

Runnin
06-21-2014, 07:39 PM
Ever since Fredi moved TLS to leadoff he's been pedestrian. Thanks again Fredi for screwing up.
That's why you don't force a rookie to have to endure that if you can help it.

AerchAngel
06-21-2014, 07:39 PM
Why am I not suprised someone would say this.

In defense of everyone saying he should have moved up, not many wanted him to leadoff, they wanted him batting second. He is not a leadoff hitter and never done it until now. Fredi has not done his homework on La Stella like I thought.

jsebe10
06-21-2014, 07:41 PM
Score your ace some fckn runs!!!!!

Tapate50
06-21-2014, 07:42 PM
In defense of everyone saying he should have moved up, not many wanted him to leadoff, they wanted him batting second. He is not a leadoff hitter and never done it until now. Fredi has not done his homework on La Stella like I thought.

To be fair, it probably isn't a homework issue, it's probably just a differing of opinion.

AerchAngel
06-21-2014, 07:44 PM
To be fair, it probably isn't a homework issue, it's probably just a differing of opinion.


Like batting BJ at the 2nd spot.

Guarantees in this world, death, taxes and BJ batting 2nd for the Braves.

The Chosen One
06-21-2014, 07:44 PM
Why am I not suprised someone would say this.


That's why you don't force a rookie to have to endure that if you can help it.

I was kidding and making light of fredi bashers who will find anyway to blame him.

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 07:45 PM
FOX interviews Gerald Laird, and the nation's women all simultaneously soak their panties.

Elimination avoided...for them?

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:46 PM
need runs this inning

jpack1
06-21-2014, 07:47 PM
Teheran is so good when he throws that curveball more then the slider. That curve us sharp. Almost always is.

The Chosen One
06-21-2014, 07:47 PM
Elimination avoided...for them?

"You underestimate my power!" - Sith Laird

Runnin
06-21-2014, 07:49 PM
These announcers sure get excited anytime the Nats do anything and there were crickets after Teheran's awesome strikeout of Rendon.

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:50 PM
bj is worthless. only one of the few times that's appropriate to say.

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:50 PM
These announcers sure get excited anytime the Nats do anything and there were crickets after Teheran's awesome strikeout of Rendon.

well the nats are still the media darling.

USMA76
06-21-2014, 07:52 PM
Can't see the game but it sounds like our lineup is getting worked by Doug Fister.

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:53 PM
Can't see the game but it sounds like our lineup is getting worked by Doug Fister.

they are

Tapate50
06-21-2014, 07:54 PM
Gattis is locked in. Dude ripped that off speed pitch.

Runnin
06-21-2014, 07:54 PM
I was kidding and making light of fredi bashers who will find anyway to blame him.
I know but it is something to think about. If he goes into a min-slump now and you have to take him out of the leadoff spot you can hurt his confidence.

That said, I've really been impressed with all these guys who've been called up recently. Not just their play but they way they carry themselves.

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:56 PM
good ab by heyward there. need jup to get a big hit here.

Tapate50
06-21-2014, 07:57 PM
Does Fister always live this high up in the zone?

thewupk
06-21-2014, 07:58 PM
that was probably it. nats have a strong pen.

Runnin
06-21-2014, 07:59 PM
Dang Justin just missed that first strike. When he's on he doesn't miss that.

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 08:00 PM
Hangers really are frustrating on both sides of the ball - especially when your hitters miss them.

Blah.

UNCBlue012
06-21-2014, 08:01 PM
We need to score... Surprised we let Rendon hurt us again. Either way, we screwed up an easy opportunity in the first. Need to score next inning.

Runnin
06-21-2014, 08:01 PM
Gattis batting .300!!!

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 08:03 PM
Simmons flashing his inner Pastornicky on that throw!

Lville21
06-21-2014, 08:04 PM
Still talking about the Nats failed 2012 season? Give it a break.

USMA76
06-21-2014, 08:09 PM
Why in the world are Teheran and Gattis fighting each other on pitch selection? Seems our pitcher/catcher combos do that a lot.

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 08:10 PM
Well, ****e.

Two run deficit feels like two million about now.

UNCBlue012
06-21-2014, 08:10 PM
Give the bad news bears crap a break. You just gave up a free run, guys.

The Chosen One
06-21-2014, 08:10 PM
Does Fister always live this high up in the zone?

Remember we wanna keep this a little pg-13.

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 08:13 PM
Lol, thank ya ump.

UNCBlue012
06-21-2014, 08:14 PM
Julio has gotten 0 runs of support his last 14 innings. Just score for the guy.

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 08:15 PM
Just score for the guy.

He is a virgin after all.

USMA76
06-21-2014, 08:18 PM
He is a virgin after all.

Must be a member of the Tim Tebow fan club.

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 08:20 PM
Must be a member of the Tim Tebow fan club.

Abort, abort!

UNCBlue012
06-21-2014, 08:24 PM
Why is Julio hitting here...one swing ties it...

jpack1
06-21-2014, 08:25 PM
Verducchi is right on. You think he wants to say. Yep Fredi is an idiot. HaHa

CyYoung31
06-21-2014, 08:26 PM
I think Fredi is trying to give our pen a rest.

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 08:27 PM
TLS is really reaching/pressing lately.

ALAS!

USMA76
06-21-2014, 08:27 PM
How many more scoring opportunities do we waste in this game?

AerchAngel
06-21-2014, 08:28 PM
How many more scoring opportunities do we waste in this game?

Need a Fredi shrugging gif right here.

jpack1
06-21-2014, 08:37 PM
Why pitch to that guy. Teheran owns Werth and we have let Rendon beat us twice tonight.

AerchAngel
06-21-2014, 08:38 PM
Why pitch to that guy. Teheran owns Werth and we have let Rendon beat us twice tonight.

Fredi being Fredi.

tvsportscaster
06-21-2014, 08:39 PM
I guess the Braves haven't been paying attention to what Rendon has been doing, because they've pitched to him twice tonight and paid for it both times. Oh, well, it looks like a split, because Aaron Harang will get obliterated tomorrow.

USMA76
06-21-2014, 08:39 PM
So we beat Zimmerman, beat up on Strasberg, and get pwned by Doug Fister...beautiful.

USMA76
06-21-2014, 08:40 PM
I guess the Braves haven't been paying attention to what Rendon has been doing, because they've pitched to him twice tonight and paid for it both times. Oh, well, it looks like a split, because Aaron Harang will get obliterated tomorrow.

I thought Santana was pitching tomorrow but you're right, he'll get obliterated.

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 08:40 PM
So we beat Zimmerman, beat up on Strasberg, and get pwned by Doug Fister...beautiful.

If you're gonna get owned, at least get fisted while doing so.

USMA76
06-21-2014, 08:42 PM
If you're gonna get owned, at least get fisted while doing so.

What he's done to the Braves lineup tonight definitely qualifies.

tvsportscaster
06-21-2014, 08:44 PM
I thought Santana was pitching tomorrow but you're right, he'll get obliterated.

Sorry you're right it is Santana tomorrow.

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 08:45 PM
Freeman speeeeeeeeed!

Mrs. Meta
06-21-2014, 08:46 PM
We have more pop-ups than Ron Jeremy!

USMA76
06-21-2014, 08:47 PM
Sorry you're right it is Santana tomorrow.

Santana and Harang are both "black holes" in our starting pitching rotation and have been for about a month now.

AerchAngel
06-21-2014, 08:48 PM
DUde only throws 88 and we can't hit him. It is like we're batting against Jamie Moyer. We eat people like Strasturd and Zimmerman alive, but to these slow speed pitchers we can't do squat.

CrimsonCowboy
06-21-2014, 08:51 PM
14 "quality starts" now for Teheran this year. If he had any run support this year......................

AerchAngel
06-21-2014, 08:52 PM
Filthy

mfree80
06-21-2014, 08:55 PM
This has been overall one of the poorest efforts I have seen by the Braves this year. I have hope for the ninth inning, but it seems fleeting.

They have looked like little leaguers who don't understand the game within the game. I hope this game leads to some serious reflection.

AerchAngel
06-21-2014, 09:02 PM
AT least Roark throws harder. These junk pitchers just stymies the Braves hitters.

jsebe10
06-21-2014, 09:05 PM
Not a good night tonight.

57Brave
06-21-2014, 09:07 PM
This has been overall one of the poorest efforts I have seen by the Braves this year. I have hope for the ninth inning, but it seems fleeting.

They have looked like little leaguers who don't understand the game within the game. I hope this game leads to some serious reflection.

I'm sure on the ride home their dads will give them what for. Then once they get to McDonalds there will be an explanation about how you're supposed to always do your best. a little pat on the back and maybe a hug.

I sure hope BJ's mom takes him home and his dad takes Justin -- but - knowing him I'd guess he'll chew BJ al the way home
As the TV was signing off I saw Mr Uggla looking for Fredi

CyYoung31
06-21-2014, 09:17 PM
I'm sure on the ride home their dads will give them what for. Then once they get to McDonalds there will be an explanation about how you're supposed to always do your best. a little pat on the back and maybe a hug.

I sure hope BJ's mom takes him home and his dad takes Justin -- but - knowing him I'd guess he'll chew BJ al the way home
As the TV was signing off I saw Mr Uggla looking for Fredi

Strangest post of the year.

Tapate50
06-21-2014, 09:23 PM
Strangest post of the year.

Seconded.

VirginiaBrave
06-21-2014, 09:25 PM
Bad effort tonight, but a real good example of why I have my doubts.

Heyward
06-21-2014, 09:35 PM
Tough loss, but really only had two scoring chances.

I woulda pitched around Rendon both times with Werth cold right now.

But 1 was enough for them tonight.

Julio gets no run support, ever.

And yeah, the announcers are insanely homers for the Nats, media darlings.

Heyward
06-21-2014, 09:37 PM
I blame Fredi, obviously his fault we scored 0 runs, right?

Am i catching on?

zitothebrave
06-21-2014, 10:33 PM
Food for thought, we had a BABIP of .172. remove Julio's SAC to make yourself feel better .179. Fister was stupid lucky today. Even more stupid, we had 1 hit on 7 linedrives.

Braves1976
06-21-2014, 10:59 PM
The only bright side tonight was that the hit streak for Gattis is now 20 games. I hate it that Laird and Santana continue to be paired as they have been really bad together. I smell a split but I hope I am wrong.

BJ still in the two hole is so bad it's become funny.

nsacpi
06-21-2014, 11:23 PM
Gattis will rest tomorrow. He's started 4 straight days. Plus day game after night game.