GDT: #74 1:35 EST (Santana) Braves @ (Roark) Nats.

[Heyward]

Lineup:

TLS, 2B.
BJ, CF.
Freeman, 1B.
Gattis, C.
Heyward, RF.
JUpton, LF.
Johnson, 3B.
Simmons, SS.
Santana, P.

Kinda surprising Gattis is in but we do play in an AL park 3 days next week where he can DH 2 times.

BJ still 2nd, smh :facepalm:

[Jay212033]

Just win please. I really need Santana to pitch much better.

[jsebe10]

Lol at BJ

[weso1]

Why is our 2nd best hitter batting 6th? I just don't get it.

[jpack1]

Let's get this win.

Fredi? Just laugh it off, we got what we got.

[UNCBlue012]

Fredi is retarded. Sorry it that offends someone. But, Santana needs to hold his own today, he's been embarrassingly bad.

[jsebe10]

Not going to be easy. Rourke has had a good month of June. Gotta get on him early.

[jpack1]

BJ is the most embarrassing Brave ever?

[Ampere]

I know it's been said dozen of times, but I just do not understand Fredi's insistence on batting B.J. second. I wonder if B.J. dips under .200 if he will finally move him.

Moving BJ to the eight spot might actually help him. He takes a lot of called third strikes and with the pitcher behind him some of those might turn into balls.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Santana........................................... .........:facepalm:

[jpack1]

Where has Simmons superb D gone. He has been merely very good not other worldly.

[jsebe10]

Santana........................................... .........:facepalm:

Walks. Walks. Walks. Walks. Kill you every fckn time.

[thewupk]

Santana is worthless. Waste of a Draft pick

[Garmel]

Santana's become totally worthless.

[UNCBlue012]

So embarrasing Santana. So sad. Just stop giving up hits. 2-0 already to this crap team

[CrimsonCowboy]

More I watch Santana, more I'm convinced the Braves need a starter.

[jsebe10]

More I watch Santana, more I'm convinced the Braves need a starter.

No the Braves need hitters. Plain and simple.

[Runnin]

I don't think Santana even tries to stay out of the middle of the plate.

[UNCBlue012]

Maybe it's time for Jason back at leadoff. I like TLS a lot but he may need to go ahead and not have so much responsibly yet.

[thewupk]

Maybe it's time for Jason back at leadoff. I like TLS a lot but he may need to go ahead and not have so much responsibly yet.

I thought it was way too soon to put him there

[CrimsonCowboy]

No the Braves need hitters. Plain and simple.

I agree the offense needs to be better, but considering how the roster is set up, how do you make a trade for that part of the team? I just don't see how.

[Garmel]

I thought it was way too soon to put him there

I wouldn't be surprised that Walker is working with him and is already screwing up his approach.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Santana can't even throw a strike to first base.

[NinersSBChamps]

Need to somehow get out of this jam.

[Tapate50]

Boy, we have given them free bases galore between last night and tonight. Look like a monkey you know whating a football doing it.

[Tapate50]

Ump being a little stingy there

[NinersSBChamps]

Good battle from Santana. Now then offense can have another 11 pitch inning.

[VirginiaBrave]

I love Wren's work to rebuild as fast as he did to get us back in contention, but darn these guys are a mess. Win two, lose two, Got some work to do. And Yeezus, this a rant not a whine.

[VirginiaBrave]

I swear Uggla could do what LaStella has done in this series.

[Garmel]

They give us a two base error and a free walk on the house on a mistake by the umpire and we still can't score.

[jsebe10]

Just can't hit man. Just can't hit.

[thewupk]

Our offense is back stinking since Heyward moved off leadoff spot

[jsebe10]

I agree the offense needs to be better, but considering how the roster is set up, how do you make a trade for that part of the team? I just don't see how.

You start by coming to grips as a ball club/front office that you fcked up in the signing of that waste if space in CF and have to be willing to put payroll on the back burner a delegate that ass to a bench player. He's earned nothing and deserves nothing.

[VirginiaBrave]

Nah, it's not Heyward being moved, we just can't hit quality pitching.

[jsebe10]

I know braves fans love their ball club and these guys, but he's dragging this fan base down. I've never ran into a braves fan that has anything positive to say about BJ.

[Garmel]

Our offense is back stinking since Heyward moved off leadoff spot

Huh? Our offense stunk with Heyward leading off. How has that changed?

[NinersSBChamps]

Our offense is back stinking since Heyward moved off leadoff spot

And Jason has hit better in the 5 spot too. Small sample size.

[VirginiaBrave]

I know braves fans love their ball club and these guys, but he's dragging this fan base down. I've never ran into a braves fan that has anything positive to say about BJ.

He joins the list of Reggie Sanders and Uggla that just couldn't perform as a Brave, thank God there is only three years left...

[thewupk]

Huh? Our offense stunk with Heyward leading off. How has that changed?

It was better while Heyward was at leadoff and hitting well. He sparks the offense when he's going well just like he did last summer.

[CrimsonCowboy]

What an at bat by La Stella

[Garmel]

Great at bat by La Stella. Unfortunately, BJ will more than likely screw this up.

[thewupk]

And Jason has hit better in the 5 spot too. Small sample size.

I would say he's just continued to hit well. He was in some kind of funk the early part of the year. And as of now we have a rookie who the league is adjusting too and one of the worst hitters in baseball in the 1 and 2 hole. They are getitng the most abs on the team.

[jpack1]

Santana not running on 3-2 twice just screams no leadership from the top of this team. Just no accountability.

[thewupk]

Great at bat by La Stella. Unfortunately, BJ will more than likely screw this up.

Look at strikes and swing at balls. His MO.

[Garmel]

****ing ridiculous.

[jsebe10]

Keep fckn running him out there.

[UNCBlue012]

This is why braves country doesn't like you BJ. Just freaking hit the ball. He has the talent, it's frustrating.

[thewupk]

BJ will be back to under .200 by the end of the week.

[jpack1]

There you go Fredito. Terrible to even play BJ much less bat him 2nd. Hit should be on the bench or hitting 8 at best.

[tomahawkchop10]

1-17 in the series and freddi refuses to drop him in the order. I can not stand our manager...or our CFer.

[jsebe10]

This is why braves country doesn't like you BJ. Just freaking hit the ball. He has the talent, it's frustrating.

He does ?

[thewupk]

I would try CJ in the #2 hole if they are determined to keep Heyward and Justin 5 and 6. He's hot atm.

[Garmel]

He does ?

He does have the talent. The problem is with the waggle in his swing that he refuses to fix.

[jsebe10]

And apparently we don't get in front of a ground ball at the professional level either. Good job Freddie.

[thewupk]

3 runs is too much for this offense right now. very frustrating to take the first 2 and leave with a split. braves have still been outscored on the season. not looking good the rest of the way.

[UNCBlue012]

How many times can we just screw around? There's so much bad news bears with this team haha so dumb.

[The Chosen One]

Paul Byrd takes this analyst thing way too seriously.

[TURBO]

Paul Byrd takes this analyst thing way too seriously.

I feel like hes trying to get a permanent spot or something. Like its an audition.

[The Chosen One]

I feel like hes trying to get a permanent spot or something. Like its an audition.

I'd get rid of Chip before I do Joe.

[jpack1]

Way to battle J Up.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Oh boy

[The Chosen One]

At least it means Fredi won't replace TLS with Pena.

[The Chosen One]

Chris is not a fan of horses apparently.

[The Chosen One]

For you kids at home, Chris was saying "YOU ARE NOT A GOOD UMPIRE! At least that's what I think he was saying". - Paul Byrd


I like him better already.

[TURBO]

Simmons been swing out of his shoes lately. So frustrating;

[jpack1]

fredi is nothing like Bobby Cox.

[Tapate50]

Simmons been swing out of his shoes lately. So frustrating;
He is getting very BJ ish preswing. That waggle makes him late. He is trying to hit every pitch out.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Anyone else getting a Brett Favre political ad? I am and I don't live in Mississippi.

[thewupk]

at least simmons plays great defense and is cheap (for now). but he's really regressed as a hitter even from last year.

[AerchAngel]

For you kids at home, Chris was saying "YOU ARE NOT A GOOD UMPIRE! At least that's what I think he was saying". - Paul Byrd


I like him better already.

I counted 11 f-bombs, he told welke and the ump at the plate........loved it. Reminds me of the barbershop scene in Coming to America when EM said Eff you to everyone in there.

Oh Bobby would have been tossed, no doubt.

And I don't blame CJ for doing it, I would have been far worse because he was robbed.

[The Chosen One]

Anyone else getting a Brett Favre political ad? I am and I don't live in Mississippi.

Very annoying and I'm on the opposite side of the Southeast.

[thewupk]

looks the braves only chance is in the 8th. i don't see PH, La Stella, and BJ getting anything going.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Very annoying and I'm on the opposite side of the Southeast.

I'm only about 13 miles or so from Mississippi and I'm getting tired of that ad. Plus, someone needs to introduce Brett to a razor.

[UNCBlue012]

I just don't understand why Simmons is swinging so hard. He's such a good hitter at just making contact and getting bloop hits. Cut it down, man.

And I still don't understand the obsession of Fredi with BJ. I don't. Take him out of the 2-hole and watch this team not suck as much offensively.

[Dalyn]

I'm tired of asking when the BJ experiment will end, so instead I'll ask when this Fredi experiment will end...

[BravesBlock]

BJ will be back to under .200 by the end of the week.

Maybe that it what it will take for the Braves to finally move JHey to Center and demote BJ to a 4th outfielder position for the remainder of the season. We just have to hope he will find "it" before next season. We have so much money invested in him.

[UNCBlue012]

Maybe that it what it will take for the Braves to finally move JHey to Center and demote BJ to a 4th outfielder position for the remainder of the season. We just have to hope he will find "it" before next season. We have so much money invested in him.

We always talk about guys like Terdo and Cunningham, why wouldn't it be smart to bring one back? The Uggla experiment is over, let's finish up the BJ one. At least for now. Baseball is about winning, not sticking with players who aren't doing well. I hope BJ steps it up but I keep hoping and the results keep sucking.

[UNCBlue012]

Also, Santana wasn't amazing... but he was pretty dang good after the first. I'm glad I got a chance to eat my words. I wish the team would pick him up.

[The Chosen One]

TLS's patience has gone wayside. I think the impatience of other guys around him has gotten into his head.

[jsebe10]

Lamo. Nice inning guys. Just fckn lovely.

[AerchAngel]

I just don't understand why Simmons is swinging so hard. He's such a good hitter at just making contact and getting bloop hits. Cut it down, man.

And I still don't understand the obsession of Fredi with BJ. I don't. Take him out of the 2-hole and watch this team not suck as much offensively.

THat is what batting coaches are paid to do, help batters out.....ours, just collecting a paycheck like they are on guvmnet cheese.

[Garmel]

TLS's patience has gone wayside. I think the impatience of other guys around him has gotten into his head.

Walker's probably working with him and screwing him up like he did the others.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Dang. The Fox Sports South guys brutal to Paul Byrd there.:happy0157:

[thewupk]

TLS's patience has gone wayside. I think the impatience of other guys around him has gotten into his head.

Too much put on him too early imo. No idea why you would put him leadoff after like 2 weeks. Should of either kept him lower in the order until after the ASB and see how he's handling the big leagues then or sandwhich him between Heyward and Freeman in the 2 hole.

[The Chosen One]

Too much put on him too early imo. No idea why you would put him leadoff after like 2 weeks. Should of either kept him lower in the order until after the ASB and see how he's handling the big leagues then or sandwhich him between Heyward and Freeman in the 2 hole.

I remember when Bobby put Kelly in the 3rd spot as soon as he was called up and he started like 0-26 was it?

[Dalyn]

This is such a ****ty division.

[AerchAngel]

Too much put on him too early imo. No idea why you would put him leadoff after like 2 weeks. Should of either kept him lower in the order until after the ASB and see how he's handling the big leagues then or sandwhich him between Heyward and Freeman in the 2 hole.

Fredi being Fredi.

BJ ain't moving from the 2nd spot, that is etched in stone.

[AerchAngel]

I remember when Bobby put Kelly in the 3rd spot as soon as he was called up and he started like 0-26 was it?

yep, you are correct. Epic thread on that.

[The Chosen One]

Don't care if we win or not today, just want the Gorn to extend.

[CrimsonCowboy]

The N.L. East is the baseball answer to the NFC East

[Dalyn]

They should've moved the Astros to the NL Easy so they could compete.

[Bdawg2309]

Or maybe la Stella is going through what all recent call ups go through , not like he was going to bat .350+ all season

[Dalyn]

Hasn't Stella! got on base every game at the top?

[Dalyn]

Come on, Gattis, quit ****ing around...

http://www.gregxgraves.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/vicious-polar-bear.jpg

[AerchAngel]

Well Dal, the streak ended.


boo

[thewupk]

Hasn't Stella! got on base every game at the top?

Maybe. But getting out once out of 4 or 5 trips to the plate isn't that great.

[thewupk]

Or maybe la Stella is going through what all recent call ups go through , not like he was going to bat .350+ all season

It's not about his struggles it's about why he is in the leadoff spot or at the top or the order for that matter.

[Tapate50]

Our studs just flat out aren't playing well. Even our run was on a bloop.

[thewupk]

very frustating series. i'm afraid this may be the closest we see to first the rest of the year if the bats don't wake up.

[thewupk]

Our studs just flat out aren't playing well. Even our run was on a bloop.

been that way all year minus the first of hte year when freeman and justin carried the team and then for awhile when justin and gattis were hot. other then that only 1 player has been hitting well if that. hard to score when happens. also having 3 players having horrible offensive years at the plate don't help either. Half the lineup has a sub 300 OBP every day when you include the pitcher. That needs to be addressed.

[AerchAngel]

very frustating series. i'm afraid this may be the closest we see to first the rest of the year if the bats and MANAGER don't wake the fvck up.

FTFY

[jsebe10]

XBH. XBH. XBH.

We aren't an XBH team at all.

[Tapate50]

We haven't hit a ball that hard in two games.

[thewupk]

FTFY

might be true. honestly doesn't matter what Fredi does when the team is next to last in runs scored. CF is going to be a problem regardless of who is out there. Schafer is horrible too. Moving them to the back of the lineup will help some but it's still an auto out.

[thewupk]

XBH. XBH. XBH.

We aren't an XBH team at all.

or OBP team. If you can't get on base or hit for XBH you just aren't going to score runs.

[CyYoung31]

very frustating series. i'm afraid this may be the closest we see to first the rest of the year if the bats don't wake up.

The Nats are just as mediocre as we are.

[jsebe10]

Question.

How the fck did this team win 96 games last year? Honestly.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Picks up remote control. Turns to NASCAR race.

[AerchAngel]

might be true. honestly doesn't matter what Fredi does when the team is next to last in runs scored. CF is going to be a problem regardless of who is out there. Schafer is horrible too. Moving them to the back of the lineup will help some but it's still an auto out.


At least you see what I was getting at. Mad props to you deciphering that.

Liberty is not going to eat 25 mil a year, they just won't. One player I can see, but two, no way.

[jsebe10]

The Nats are just as mediocre as we are.

Very bad.

People always say the NL East is weak...it's bc no team in the division can hit worth a fck. There is some really good pitching in the East.

[AerchAngel]

Picks up remote control. Turns to NASCAR race.

Is it nice outside? If not, gotto watch something else, Neckcar is boring as heck.

[Dalyn]

Once again Fredi is putting the team in a terrible position if we make a comeback.

[AerchAngel]

Once again Fredi is putting the team in a terrible position if we make a comeback.

Did you hear that sound?

[thewupk]

The Nats are just as mediocre as we are.

They score more runs then their opponents and don't have any major weakness like the Braves do. The only thing the Braves had going for them in 2014 was a 7-1 record against the Nats coming into the series. Against other teams the Nats have outclassed the Braves pretty bad. As things go the Nats just have to play .500 ball agaisnt the Braves the rest of the way and they will win the East pretty easily.

[AerchAngel]

I just heard the sound again, it keeps repeating in rhythm. Like it is stuck.

[57Brave]

The Nats are just as mediocre as we are.

I disagree

the Nats made their 2nd error in 15 games today
the Nats went a stretch with Harper,Zimmerman, Wilson Ramos and LaRoche on DL. Equalling 5/8 of their lineup. At once
the Nats bullpen is impresive
the Nats rotation 1-5 might be the best in the league
the Nats have Rendon
it's not even the All-Star Break yet !!


And, the Braves with all of their problems have gone in and split a 4 game series

[rico43]

Question.

How the fck did this team win 96 games last year? Honestly.

Great managing.

[Dalyn]

I just heard the sound again, it keeps repeating in rhythm. Like it is stuck.

You probably won't hear it much longer.

[thewupk]

Question.

How the fck did this team win 96 games last year? Honestly.

Pitching was better and certain players hit better and two of them were due to inflated BABIP's that aren't repeatable.

[AerchAngel]

You probably won't hear it much longer.

Ha ha, I doubt it, BJ ass will be in the 2nd spot coming Tuesday night.

[thewupk]

At least we have Harang pitching for us next. He will get us back on track.

[tvsportscaster]

Pitching was better and certain players hit better and two of them were due to inflated BABIP's that aren't repeatable.

They also had a much more consistent offense last year with the same players. But with this offense this year, there is no way they can run off any kind of streak because their offense is too inconsistent. Just like this series, the beat the Nats two best pitchers Zimmermann and Strasburg and suck against Fister and Roark.

[Bdawg2309]

Question.

How the fck did this team win 96 games last year? Honestly.

The 10+ game win streaks

[CrimsonCowboy]

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman 49s
I thought CJ and Justin were just showing their D-back grit today

[jsebe10]

Boy I can't wait for these little red mother fckers to come to Atl and play in this humidity.

[Dalyn]

Just handed the Nationals some confidence. Not good.

[AerchAngel]

At least we have Harang pitching for us next. He will get us back on track.

Dammit! my sarcasm meter needs new batteries.

[thewupk]

They also had a much more consistent offense last year with the same players. But with this offense this year, there is no way they can run off any kind of streak because their offense is too inconsistent. Just like this series, the beat the Nats two best pitchers Zimmermann and Strasburg and suck against Fister and Roark.

True. But it's combination of things. Freeman is worse. CJ is much worse. Simmons is worse. And it's not like we were great on offense last year. We were average and had great pitching and defense. This year the offense has declined to one of the worst in the league. The defense is stil lstrong at a few spots and the pitching has dropped a bit. That results in a .500ish team.

[Dalyn]

Dammit! my sarcasm meter needs new batteries.

Why does your sarcasm meter vibrate and smell like ****?

[skillet]

Over the past 51 games we are only 21-30, winning percentage of .412. Terrible.

[Dalyn]

Over the past 51 games we are only 21-30, winning percentage of .412. Terrible.

How many teams are playing worse?

[AerchAngel]

Just handed the Nationals some confidence. Not good.

They were already confident and cocky. We are just lucky to be honest. The worst hitter in all of baseball gets more bats than 3 of your best hitters and not moved is a travesty. As long as he is in the 2 spot, we will struggle with scoring runs. As long as Fredi keeps doing this (I don't think he calling the shot on this ...conspiracy theory over) it tells the rest of the team that BJ is above them. He is at Dan strUggla's level and not being moved or benched.

[Dalyn]

They were already confident and cocky. We are just lucky to be honest. The worst hitter in all of baseball gets more bats than 3 of your best hitters and not moved is a travesty. As long as he is in the 2 spot, we will struggle with scoring runs. As long as Fredi keeps doing this (I don't think he calling the shot on this ...conspiracy theory over) it tells the rest of the team that BJ is above them. He is at Dan strUggla's level and not being moved or benched.

There is no way Wren is making Fredi bat BJ #2, in my opinion. If he IS, then Fredi is DEFINITELY on the hot seat.

[bravebonebook]

What is the National's 'Magic Number' now?

[thewupk]

How many teams are playing worse?

Probablly not many.

I actually hope we do trade for Jeff Samaradhajasfa. If he thinks his run support with the Cubs is bad wait till he comes here.

[Dalyn]

What is the National's 'Magic Number' now?

33


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[thewupk]

Over the past 51 games we are only 21-30, winning percentage of .412. Terrible.

It is. We will be sub .500 on the year by the ASB if the offense stays at it's current pace.

[AerchAngel]

There is no way Wren is making Fredi bat BJ #2, in my opinion. If he IS, then Fredi is DEFINITELY on the hot seat.

Then, o'Smart one, how in the hell can he explain batting one of the worst hitters in the majors 2nd every fvcking game? This is not lineup construction argument, it is an argument of getting your best hitters more chances at the plate. He is a K or fly out to center or right on every at-bat.

[Dalyn]

Then, o'Smart one, how in the hell can he explain batting one of the worst hitters in the majors 2nd every fvcking game? This is not lineup construction argument, it is an argument of getting your best hitters more chances at the plate. He is a K or fly out to center or right on every at-bat.

He is a bad manager who thinks if he puts BJ out there #2 for the first half no one can blame him for BJ's failures. And he is right about that. BJ is to blame. Now, of course, Fredi is to blame for crippling the offense in order to save face.

[AerchAngel]

He is a bad manager who thinks if he puts BJ out there #2 for the first half no one can blame him for BJ's failures. And he is right about that. BJ is to blame. Now, of course, Fredi is to blame for crippling the offense in order to save face.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!


The Oracle speaks the truth.

[Bdawg2309]

He is a bad manager who thinks if he puts BJ out there #2 for the first half no one can blame him for BJ's failures. And he is right about that. BJ is to blame. Now, of course, Fredi is to blame for crippling the offense in order to save face.

So who replaces fredi then?

[The Chosen One]

I think he's trotting BJ out there to the point BJ has no more argument to go in his office and demand to be hitting #2.

We all know Beej won't be hitting 2 by August.

[Dalyn]

I think he's trotting BJ out there to the point BJ has no more argument to go in his office and demand to be hitting #2.

We all know Beej won't be hitting 2 by August.

I hope his saving face/making a point/bailing on a decision is worth digging the team into a hole it might not get out of.

[The Chosen One]

I hope his saving face/making a point/bailing on a decision is worth digging the team into a hole it might not get out of.

Considering you guys always say Fredi doesn't have the balls to make a tough decision or gamble, this is a perfect example like taking Kimbrel out that night in New York.

[Dalyn]

Considering you guys always say Fredi doesn't have the balls to make a tough decision or gamble, this is a perfect example like taking Kimbrel out that night in New York.

This isn't about making a decision. It is his same old stubborn bull**** and you know it. And we say he can't ADAPT quickly. Much different than making a "decision" in ST and sticking with it regardless of the result.

[nsacpi]

Last year Fredi was willing to bat BJ lower in the order and bench him at times. What changed? Bizarre.

[CyYoung31]

They score more runs then their opponents and don't have any major weakness like the Braves do. The only thing the Braves had going for them in 2014 was a 7-1 record against the Nats coming into the series. Against other teams the Nats have outclassed the Braves pretty bad. As things go the Nats just have to play .500 ball agaisnt the Braves the rest of the way and they will win the East pretty easily.

We've had some brutal losses the past couple of weeks which has skewed our run differential. Now that we seem to have gotten the pitching straightened out (mainly the bullpen) I don't think you'll be seeing many 10-2 games anymore.

[The Chosen One]

Last year Fredi was willing to bat BJ lower in the order and bench him at times. What changed? Bizarre.

He didn't really start benching BJ until July. Bj went on DL for a while.

[Dalyn]

Last year Fredi was willing to bat BJ lower in the order and bench him at times. What changed? Bizarre.

It is simple. Someone important criticized his handling of BJ and so this year he is proving it isn't his fault BJ sucks, the team be damned.

[Dalyn]

He didn't really start benching BJ until July. Bj went on DL for a while.

He moved BJ around constantly and gave him a day off barely a week into the season.

[CyYoung31]

It is simple. Someone important criticized his handling of BJ and so this year he is proving it isn't his fault BJ sucks, the team be damned.

You have no proof of any of this.

[CyYoung31]

He moved BJ around constantly and gave him a day off barely a week into the season.

Oh my god.

[thewupk]

We've had some brutal losses the past couple of weeks which has skewed our run differential. Now that we seem to have gotten the pitching straightened out (mainly the bullpen) I don't think you'll be seeing many 10-2 games anymore.

The Braves have still played sub .500 baseball when you take the games out against the Nats. That is not good.

[CyYoung31]

The Braves have still played sub .500 baseball when you take the games out against the Nats. That is not good.

Totally, and that's mainly because of our offense which unquestionably has to get better. But, I still have a hard time believing it's going to stay this bad all year.

[VirginiaBrave]

The offense is putrid, but we have seen the last two games what is going to be the nail in the coffin for us, we have no depth. Not in the pitching nor position players and it will bite us eventually.

[bravesnumberone]

Par for the course for this Braves team. Had a chance to really do some damage and freaking crumbled the last two days. At least we split, I guess.

[50PoundHead]

I hope his saving face/making a point/bailing on a decision is worth digging the team into a hole it might not get out of.

I deplore Upton the Elder, but you could have strung all of our baserunners together today and we still would have likely come up short.

Everyone was clamoring for La Stella to move up in the order. Fredi moves him up and La Stella proceeds to go 3-30 with a couple of walks. Let's face facts, this team is miserable offensively. Simply miserable. And there a lot of contributors to that misery. I'm not letting Upton the Elder off the hook, but this is a pretty miserable offensive team.

[thewupk]

Totally, and that's mainly because of our offense which unquestionably has to get better. But, I still have a hard time believing it's going to stay this bad all year.

I can absolutely see BJ, CJ, and Simmons continue to be this bad all year. That leaves Heyard, Gattis, Freeman, JUP, and La Stella to carry the offense. That's a lot to ask imo with a handicap of 3 brutal hitters.

[50PoundHead]

I can absolutely see BJ, CJ, and Simmons continue to be this bad all year. That leaves Heyard, Gattis, Freeman, JUP, and La Stella to carry the offense. That's a lot to ask imo with a handicap of 3 brutal hitters.

Agree 100%.

[Bdawg2309]

Dalyn, who do you replace fredi with ?

[AerchAngel]

Dalyn, who do you replace fredi with ?

Any of the people on this board could do better.

[CyYoung31]

I can absolutely see BJ, CJ, and Simmons continue to be this bad all year. That leaves Heyard, Gattis, Freeman, JUP, and La Stella to carry the offense. That's a lot to ask imo with a handicap of 3 brutal hitters.

4 great hitters and one solid hitter will get you by, even with 3 SVODS in the lineup.

[jason27nc]

Dalyn, who do you replace fredi with ?

I would go with Chipper! Or Chip?

[thewupk]

4 great hitters and one solid hitter will get you by, even with 3 SVODS in the lineup.

Sure. But I don't know if I would consider all of Heyward, Freeman, JUP, and Gattis to be great. For the first 3 they have have stretches where they are great and then stretches where they are poo. If two of them are on a roll at the same time then yeah we can score runs as it's been shown this year at times. But that hasn't happened that often.

[CyYoung31]

Sure. But I don't know if I would consider all of Heyward, Freeman, JUP, and Gattis to be great. For the first 3 they have have stretches where they are great and then stretches where they are poo. If two of them are on a roll at the same time then yeah we can score runs as it's been shown this year at times. But that hasn't happened that often.

But, when you have that many good hitters, chances are that a couple of them will be hot together at different times. Of course, all of them have to stay healthy...

I'm not really disagreeing with the points that you're making, but I'm just not ready to concede that we truly have a mediocre team just yet.

[UNCBlue012]

But, when you have that many good hitters, chances are that a couple of them will be hot together at different times. Of course, all of them have to stay healthy...

I'm not really disagreeing with the points that you're making, but I'm just not ready to concede that we truly have a mediocre team just yet.
My thoughts exactly. The offense hasn't been fantastic, but a huge part of the struggles have been the BP. Though I love what we've got coming into the pen lately!