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CJC
07-21-2014, 03:12 PM
Marlins
Tom Koehler (R)
Braves
Julio Teheran (R)

1. B.J. Upton (R) CF
2. :suprise:Tommy La Stella (L) 2B
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Justin Upton (R) LF
5. Jason Heyward (L) RF
6. :eusa_dance:Evan Gattis (R) C
7. Chris Johnson (R) 3B
8. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
9. Julio Teheran (R) P

1. Christian Yelich (L) LF
2. Jordany Valdespin (L) 2B
3. Giancarlo Stanton (R) RF
4. Casey McGehee (R) 3B
5. Garrett Jones (L) 1B
6. Marcell Ozuna (R) CF
7. Jarrod Saltalamacchia (S) C
8. Adeiny Hechavarria (R) SS
9. Tom Koehler (R) P


Gametime Forecast: 79°F • Drizzle • 58% PoP

The Chosen One
07-21-2014, 03:19 PM
Time for LaStella's production to go back down. lol

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 03:23 PM
Back to back left handed batters. What are we ever going to do?

thethe
07-21-2014, 03:29 PM
Need Tommy up in the order. I know he has done great in the seventh hole but this is the right move.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 03:32 PM
Completely terrible decision. Leave the order the way it was. Simmons has hit great in the second spot. I alluded to this days ago. Such a mind boggling decision.

Barnes
07-21-2014, 03:34 PM
Need Tommy up in the order. I know he has done great in the seventh hole but this is the right move.

I agree. Simmons has done ok in that spot but he still gives up too many ABs for me.

Braves1976
07-21-2014, 03:51 PM
Simmons numbers in the two hole were very good. But he is dropped while BJ stays up top..

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 03:53 PM
You're close, Fredi. Now just switch Heyward and Tommy, and then move Gattis up one spot and Tommy down two.

Heyward
07-21-2014, 04:05 PM
Completely terrible decision. Leave the order the way it was. Simmons has hit great in the second spot. I alluded to this days ago. Such a mind boggling decision.

:facepalm:

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 04:12 PM
:facepalm:

I love your in depth analysis.

nsacpi
07-21-2014, 04:14 PM
pot kettle

Heyward
07-21-2014, 04:14 PM
I love your in depth analysis.

I love how you complain about everything.

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 04:16 PM
Completely terrible decision. Leave the order the way it was. Simmons has hit great in the second spot. I alluded to this days ago. Such a mind boggling decision.

I find this ironic, since I'm sure you're chomping at the bit to get BJ out of the lead off spot.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 04:16 PM
I love how you complain about everything.


pot kettle

:Gasp:

MadduxFanII
07-21-2014, 04:23 PM
Earlier in the year, Tommy moved to the top of the lineup and struggled. That does not mean those two facts are related, and it certainly doesn't mean that the former caused the latter. La Stella's a classic #2 hitter, and he's got about 70 points of OBP on Andrelton. Nothing to criticize here, especially since La Stella and Freeman both hit lefties well.

That's a much, much prettier lineup with Gattis in it.

nsacpi
07-21-2014, 04:31 PM
Earlier in the year, Tommy moved to the top of the lineup and struggled. That does not mean those two facts are related, and it certainly doesn't mean that the former caused the latter. La Stella's a classic #2 hitter, and he's got about 70 points of OBP on Andrelton. Nothing to criticize here, especially since La Stella and Freeman both hit lefties well.

That's a much, much prettier lineup with Gattis in it.

Yeah. Gattis makes us pretty.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 04:55 PM
I love how you complain about everything.

Okay kiddo.

Simmons is hitting the best he has all season from the number 2 spot. Tell me how that makes any sense?

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 04:57 PM
Earlier in the year, Tommy moved to the top of the lineup and struggled. That does not mean those two facts are related, and it certainly doesn't mean that the former caused the latter. La Stella's a classic #2 hitter, and he's got about 70 points of OBP on Andrelton. Nothing to criticize here, especially since La Stella and Freeman both hit lefties well.

That's a much, much prettier lineup with Gattis in it.

Tommy is hitting the ball fine where he is. Simmons hasn't hit like this anywhere else in the lineup. There is plenty to criticize here.

stpeteirish
07-21-2014, 05:00 PM
Okay kiddo.

Simmons is hitting the best he has all season from the number 2 spot. Tell me how that makes any sense?

it makes sense because TLS is a better hitter, better OBP buy. Unless he still is freaking out over being up in the lineup. We'll find out pretty quick.

nsacpi
07-21-2014, 05:14 PM
Okay kiddo.

Simmons is hitting the best he has all season from the number 2 spot. Tell me how that makes any sense?

There isn't any evidence (that I know off) that some hitters do better in a particular spot. A hitter might get hot while hitting in one spot. But it is a coincidence. It has no predictive power for how he will do in the future in that spot compared to somewhere else in the lineup.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 05:15 PM
Hope Stella! embraces his new role. He would look great #2 on Opening Day.

Bama9507
07-21-2014, 05:29 PM
Simmons OPS

Hitting 2nd: .673
Hitting 7th: .750
Hitting 8th: .656

Once again Niners whining just to whine.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 05:31 PM
Simmons OPS

Hitting 2nd: .673
Hitting 7th: .750
Hitting 8th: .656

Once again Niners whining just to whine.
I love when people pick just one stat.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 05:32 PM
Tommy is hitting the ball fine where he is. Simmons hasn't hit like this anywhere else in the lineup. There is plenty to criticize here.

Not really. Swing out of your shoes and falling into the other batters box kinda hitters have no room in the top of the order. Hit him 8th till he adjusts and uses all fields. Not that complicated here.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 05:32 PM
Next time do some actual research too.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 05:41 PM
Pulled this from a post I made almost a week ago.
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Simmons batting second this year.

19 games, his walk rate is 8% which is higher than anywhere else, his K rate is 4.6% which is the lowest. I discounted batting 1st, 5th, and 9th because there isn't enough at bats. He's batting .316 with an OBP of .372. Again both are highs in that category. His slugging and OPS are .367 and .739 which are a little lower than what he does from the seventh spot.

2nd or 7th are comparable, but he's hitting for a better average and getting base much more frequently from the 2nd spot.

Enscheff
07-21-2014, 05:44 PM
Fact of the matter is that Simmons has a .343 OBP in the 2 slot this year, while BJ has a sub-300 OBP no matter where he hits.

Moving TLS into one of the top 2 slots was the correct move, but it was negated by leaving BJ at the top.

The top 5 in the order need to be TLS, Justin, Freeman, Gattis and Heyward in some order (but probably in that exact order). Any other lineup is wrong, period.

AerchAngel
07-21-2014, 05:47 PM
Guys quit fighting.

I am the only one that fights and I fight anyone and everyone. We need to keep the mojo, but I do agree with Niners about not changing a thing. I know hitting La Stella 8th is not the best, but Simba has looked better in the two hole even though he ends up in the other batters box sometimes BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY he is taking more pitches and walking more. Now back in the 8 hole, he will swing at everything and not take as many pitches. That is the only gripe I have. So I am saying both parties have legitimate complaints but you shouldn't talk down one side because they don't agree with you. Hell, I am one of worst instigators of not backing down but sometimes you have to and in this case Niners had to.

Braves1976
07-21-2014, 05:49 PM
Fact of the matter is that Simmons has a .343 OBP in the 2 slot this year, while BJ has a sub-300 OBP no matter where he hits.

Moving TLS into one of the top 2 slots was the correct move, but it was negated by leaving BJ at the top.


Exactly.

Bama9507
07-21-2014, 05:51 PM
I love when people pick just one stat.

Ops is a beautiful stat

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 05:57 PM
Meh, I'm not exactly sure what I think about moving La Stella to the two-hole. I mean, I love him being in that spot, but he was absolutely raking where he was. The good thing is that Gattis being back makes this lineup so much better. There's NO easy outs. If Tommy can stay hot, this lineup could do work

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 05:58 PM
Ops is a beautiful stat

Sure it is a good stat.

Which is why Tommy and his .921 OPS from the 7th spot should not have moved.

jcc03004
07-21-2014, 05:59 PM
Well the Nats are playing the Rockies no help there....

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 06:00 PM
Well the Nats are playing the Rockies no help there....

And I think Tulo is out too.

Bama9507
07-21-2014, 06:02 PM
Flukey just like Simmons in 2 spot. When all I said and done their OPS will be at normal career marks no matter their spot. Upton and Simmons should be at bottom.

Enscheff
07-21-2014, 06:03 PM
Meh, I'm not exactly sure what I think about moving La Stella to the two-hole. I mean, I love him being in that spot, but he was absolutely raking where he was. The good thing is that Gattis being back makes this lineup so much better. There's NO easy outs. If Tommy can stay hot, this lineup could do work

You sure about that bro?

BJ Upton - .278 OBP
Simmons - .303 OBP
Johnson - .303 OBP

Those OBPs are the very definition of easy outs.

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 06:04 PM
And I think Tulo is out too.

So is the "suddenly hot" Golden Boy.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 06:05 PM
Flukey just like Simmons in 2 spot. When all I said and done their OPS will be at normal career marks no matter their spot. Upton and Simmons should be at bottom.

I am not advocating BJ Upton at any spot in our lineup. Let alone lead off.

What is a fluke? Tommy's OPS from the 7th spot? That is where the majority of his at bats have come from. Not a great number of at bats, but it's hardly a fluke.

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 06:06 PM
You sure about that bro?

BJ Upton - .278 OBP
Simmons - .303 OBP
Johnson - .303 OBP

Those OBPs are the very definition of easy outs.

I don't know if Simmons, BJ and Johnson have exactly been easy outs for the last month.

Bama9507
07-21-2014, 06:11 PM
I am not advocating BJ Upton at any spot in our lineup. Let alone lead off.

What is a fluke? Tommy's OPS from the 7th spot? That is where the majority of his at bats have come from. Not a great number of at bats, but it's hardly a fluke.

I'm saying he won't maintain a .900 ops. Just like Simmons won't maintain anything over .700.

stpeteirish
07-21-2014, 06:12 PM
Sure it is a good stat.

Which is why Tommy and his .921 OPS from the 7th spot should not have moved.

.921 OPS screams "top of the order"

Bama9507
07-21-2014, 06:12 PM
I don't know if Simmons, BJ and Johnson have exactly been easy outs for the last month.

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140611160252/videogames-fanon/images/6/6f/You_don't_say%3F.jpg

stpeteirish
07-21-2014, 06:14 PM
Well the Nats are playing the Rockies no help there....

at least they're in Coors where the Rockies aren't terrible.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 06:16 PM
I'm saying he won't maintain a .900 ops. Just like Simmons won't maintain anything over .700.

No Tommy won't be able to sustain that OPS. I think an OPS around .825 isn't too far fetched though.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 06:17 PM
.921 OPS screams "top of the order"

And his OPS when he's at the top of the order screams, "move me back to the 7th spot."

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 06:18 PM
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140611160252/videogames-fanon/images/6/6f/You_don't_say%3F.jpg

Well yes, that's exactly what I meant. It's obvious they've been solid. Tell that to the one thinking differently.

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 06:24 PM
Freddie is 2-37 against Miami this year. Good lord.

Bama9507
07-21-2014, 06:29 PM
Freddie is 2-37 against Miami this year. Good lord.

http://i.imgur.com/4zXog4g.gif

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 06:34 PM
Julio is looking sharp right now! Please continue!

Tapate50
07-21-2014, 06:37 PM
Freddie is 2-37 against Miami this year. Good lord.

Hasn't been too hot vs anyone of late either.

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 06:37 PM
Hasn't been too hot vs anyone of late either.

That's true. His RBI last night was a bloop if I remember right? Oh well, hopefully he steps it up!

parkvadawg
07-21-2014, 06:41 PM
Booms

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 06:41 PM
BEAUTIFUL hit from Jason, beautiful baserunning by both!

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 06:41 PM
Heads up base running by Jason!

AerchAngel
07-21-2014, 06:42 PM
Did he say dick?

parkvadawg
07-21-2014, 06:43 PM
Did he say dick?

Sure sounded like it

Tapate50
07-21-2014, 06:43 PM
Did he say dick?

Yep Gattis has a "bulging thoracic dick" per Skip.

I think he is just thinking about the after party.

Prikichi
07-21-2014, 06:44 PM
"bulging thoracic dick in his back." Was said by Chip

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 06:45 PM
Holy Jesus. Gattis needs some more at-bats. haha

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 06:45 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did say dick. lmao.

parkvadawg
07-21-2014, 06:46 PM
Cmon man!

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 06:46 PM
Beautiful job Chris. Especially on an 0-2 count.

parkvadawg
07-21-2014, 06:46 PM
Shall take it

Tapate50
07-21-2014, 06:47 PM
Good job chris

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 06:47 PM
Nicely done by Johnson. Not even close to a selfish at-bat.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 06:48 PM
Terrible. Did Fredi let him know he's batting 8th again?

AerchAngel
07-21-2014, 06:49 PM
Terrible. Did Fredi let him know he's batting 8th again?

hmmmmummmmm.

smh

Bad habits will return.

Tapate50
07-21-2014, 06:49 PM
Nicely done by Johnson. Not even close to a selfish at-bat.

Rained a fish dick?

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 06:50 PM
hmmmmummmmm.

smh

Bad habits will return.
Well that's what happens when you move a guy back into the 8th spot.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 06:51 PM
Rained a fish dick?

Like a minnow's dick, basically. Not a bass or catfish or anything like that.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 06:51 PM
That change up was filthy.

Tapate50
07-21-2014, 06:52 PM
Like a minnow's dick, basically. Not a bass or catfish or anything like that.

Crappie dick.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 06:52 PM
Like a minnow's dick, basically. Not a bass or catfish or anything like that.

I can't wait to see Moby's dick.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 06:52 PM
I can't wait to see Moby's dick.

:happy0157:

Tapate50
07-21-2014, 06:52 PM
Bout the best I've seen JT look . Damn beautiful pitching right now

Garmel
07-21-2014, 06:53 PM
Holy Jesus. Gattis needs some more at-bats. haha

The white bear is a tad rusty I believe.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 06:53 PM
I can't wait to see Moby's dick.

Laird might be as close as you're going to get. You know...a white whale.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 06:55 PM
Stella! is going to hit his first HR today.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 06:56 PM
Laird might be as close as you're going to get. You know...a white whale.

Laird before he was an adult. Not sure which one he is though.

http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzEyL2RkLzVmYWN0c2JsdWV3Ljg1YmIxLmpwZw pwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4NjI3IwplCWpwZw/17bcd0fe/122/5-facts-blue-whale.jpg

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 06:58 PM
Most wins in a single season by a RHP in Marlins history?

Kevin Brown seems way too obvious.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 06:59 PM
Most wins in a single season by a RHP in Marlins history?

Kevin Brown seems way too obvious.

Leiter?

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:00 PM
Or probably Dontrelle Willis. Almost forgot about him.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:02 PM
Or probably Dontrelle Willis. Almost forgot about him.

He was lefty handed.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:03 PM
Dirty pitch. Stella! is 0-2. Is it the end of his career already?

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:03 PM
Leiter was left handed as well.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:03 PM
He was lefty handed.

Right. Missed the RHP part of the question.

rico43
07-21-2014, 07:03 PM
Obviously, some of you have been watching Braves-Marlins games in a mirror.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:03 PM
Dirty pitch. Stella! is 0-2. Is it the end of his career already?

Yes. Beginning of the end.

Tapate50
07-21-2014, 07:03 PM
Dirty pitch. Stella! is 0-2. Is it the end of his career already?

Our elimination hangs in the balance Stella!

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:04 PM
Obviously, some of you have been watching Braves-Marlins games in a mirror.

Just Dalyn apparently.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:04 PM
Obviously, some of you have been watching Braves-Marlins games in a mirror.

:pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:07 PM
Ryan Dempster perhaps.

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 07:09 PM
HOLY SIMMONS

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:09 PM
Speechless.

TURBO
07-21-2014, 07:09 PM
wow

AerchAngel
07-21-2014, 07:10 PM
Insane.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:10 PM
I am going to go with Alex Fernandez.

rico43
07-21-2014, 07:11 PM
I bow before his excellence. Got to be play of the night.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:11 PM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/cat.gif

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 07:11 PM
How the hell does Simmons do things like that?

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:11 PM
No! :happy0157: Carl Pavano.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:12 PM
I bow before his excellence. Got to be play of the YEAR.

Fixed.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:12 PM
How the hell does Simmons do things like that?

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130810063248/tumblrroleplay/images/0/05/Magic_meme.gif

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 07:13 PM
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130810063248/tumblrroleplay/images/0/05/Magic_meme.gif

The internet man. Memes like that. haha

Braves1976
07-21-2014, 07:17 PM
Simmons showed why Ozzie Smith said recently that Simmons, not Tulo, is the best shortstop in MLB.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:18 PM
Simmons showed why Ozzie Smith said recently that Simmons, not Tulo, is the best shortstop in MLB.

Smith back to smoking crack?

stpeteirish
07-21-2014, 07:18 PM
Most wins in a single season by a RHP in Marlins history?

Kevin Brown seems way too obvious.

Livan

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:19 PM
.340 .432 .603 1.035 + excellent defense = best SS in baseball.

Julio3000
07-21-2014, 07:20 PM
Andrelton, YU no get DP?

Julio3000
07-21-2014, 07:21 PM
Tulo is a next-level MF. Thanks for playing, every other shortstop.

Julio3000
07-21-2014, 07:22 PM
Smith back to smoking crack?

That was just the one time, at the Gold Glove afterparty with Chip and Jason Heyward.

Braves1976
07-21-2014, 07:22 PM
Smith back to smoking crack?

Smith is right and he did qualify his statement as judging on defense. Plus he gave both props noting Tulo is the better hitter.

Julio3000
07-21-2014, 07:22 PM
I bow before his excellence. Got to be play of the night.

That play gave me a bulging thoracic appreciation for his excellence.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:24 PM
Smith is right and he did qualify his statement as judging on defense. Plus he gave both props noting Tulo is the better hitter.

You didn't say the best defensive SS in baseball.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:26 PM
Livan

Oh good guess. It has to be him or Pavs.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:27 PM
Teheran throwing filth...some real dirty girls.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:28 PM
Why did they let Mike Minor pitch for a pitch?

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 07:28 PM
Teheran was dealing and then that homer. I feel like we have some pretty excellent starting pitchers with one issue: Homers.

Minor? Homers.
Wood? Homers.
Teheran? Homers.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 07:28 PM
Go fck urself Salty.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:29 PM
He ambushed the **** out of that.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:30 PM
I feel like we have some pretty excellent starting posters with one issue: Homers.
I agree.

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 07:30 PM
He ambushed the **** out of that.

He did. It wasn't an awful pitch at all, it was an ambush. It does happen!

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 07:30 PM
I agree.

That was actually quite brilliant.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 07:31 PM
This is a prototypical Tehran start. Complete dominance aside from a mistake or two and absolutely positively ZERO run support.

Plz hit this fckn clown.

Braves1976
07-21-2014, 07:32 PM
You didn't say the best defensive SS in baseball.

Apparently you missed the article, I basically quoted the headline. Besides, the context should've been obvious...

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:33 PM
Plz hit this fckn clown.

http://vodkaandcupcakesdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/pennywise-clown.gif

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:35 PM
Apparently you missed the article, I basically quoted the headline. Besides, the context should've been obvious...

Okay. It's not your fault for misrepresenting the info and not posting a link. Got it. Sorry for the confusion.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 07:37 PM
Okay. It's not your fault for misrepresenting the info and not posting a link. Got it. Sorry for the confusion.
Integrity. That's what I love to see!

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 07:39 PM
BJ 3 for his last 23 with 9 Ks.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:41 PM
BJ 3 for his last 23 with 9 Ks.

He puts the lead in leadoff.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:47 PM
It's time for some fish dicks.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/EKyljD_cNvo/maxresdefault.jpg

Braves1976
07-21-2014, 07:47 PM
Okay. It's not your fault for misrepresenting the info and not posting a link. Got it. Sorry for the confusion.

Seriously?! The quote was also posted on Twitter today, not to mention it's fairly common and known that one can be talked about as the best at his position with only reference to defense. That is why it's argued that Ozzie Smith was best shortstop of his generation even though he wasn't a great hitter.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:50 PM
Seriously?! The quote was also posted on Twitter today, not to mention it's fairly common and known that one can be talked about as the best at his position with only reference to defense. That is why it's argued that Ozzie Smith was best shortstop of his generation even though he wasn't a great hitter.

:popcorn:

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:52 PM
Upton looking good. Break helped him.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:52 PM
Heyward is the best RF in baseball.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:55 PM
Johnson needs to ambush this one.

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 07:58 PM
Walks previous batter on 4 pitches, swings at the first pitch.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 07:59 PM
Walks previous batter on 4 pitches, swings at the first pitch.

I like the idea. Ambush. It just didn't work.

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 08:08 PM
I like the idea. Ambush. It just didn't work.

He didn't see a strike the entire AB and struck out on 3 pitches.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 08:11 PM
JT is done tonight. Leaving everything up now.

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 08:15 PM
JT is done tonight. Leaving everything up now.

Good call.

Julio3000
07-21-2014, 08:16 PM
Not An Ace was all ball tonight.

rico43
07-21-2014, 08:17 PM
Second night in a row that they've used something off the new Tom Petty/Heartbreakers album for coming out of breaks. Sounding mighty good.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 08:18 PM
Good call.

Lol plz dude. You saw him hanging that change up and curve. Hell of a finish though.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 08:19 PM
Simmons with a good start.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 08:20 PM
Hopefully we won't need Jordan's wheels in the later innings.

Fckn Fredi. Lol

Five
07-21-2014, 08:21 PM
FAIL

Julio3000
07-21-2014, 08:21 PM
Let's get JT an inverted M.

Five
07-21-2014, 08:22 PM
FAIL redacted

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 08:22 PM
Terrible bunt. But I will trade Jordan for Sinmons on the bases.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 08:24 PM
Can't believe BJ didn't even take a pitch after Jordan stole second. Very easily could have swiped third.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 08:25 PM
Can't believe BJ didn't even take a pitch after Jordan stole second. Very easily could have swiped third.

Meh. Can't get greedy. Schafer scores easily on a single to the OF.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 08:26 PM
Some more TLS magic?

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 08:29 PM
Pshhh

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 08:29 PM
At least we cleared BJ

stpeteirish
07-21-2014, 08:34 PM
Some more TLS magic?

move him back to 7th

nsacpi
07-21-2014, 08:39 PM
Well done Jordan Walden.

stpeteirish
07-21-2014, 08:43 PM
Freeman's looked dreadful lately. Swing is always late.

USMA76
07-21-2014, 08:44 PM
Marlins pwn Freeman.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 08:44 PM
****ing hustle! You are a professional baseball player.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 08:45 PM
Unreal. And yet will be tolerated.

Lville21
07-21-2014, 08:46 PM
****ing hustle! You are a professional baseball player.

That's the one thing I actually liked about Uggla. He would hustle down the line every time.

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 08:48 PM
That's the one thing I actually liked about Uggla. He would hustle down the line every time.

Which was only like once a month, to be fair.

drewdat
07-21-2014, 08:48 PM
T/F: Ramos is loading the ball.

drewdat
07-21-2014, 08:50 PM
That's the one thing I actually liked about Uggla. He would hustle down the line every time.

There was one time he didn't that stands out in my mind. Can't really remember any details though, just that he didn't do it and would have been safe.

Braves1976
07-21-2014, 08:50 PM
That's the one thing I actually liked about Uggla. He would hustle down the line every time.

Same here.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 08:53 PM
Wow.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 08:55 PM
T/F: Ramos is loading the ball.

True or false: I know what that means.

False

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 08:57 PM
Surprise surprise. Craig can't command his fastball. How many times have we said that this season.

Bama9507
07-21-2014, 08:57 PM
Who didn't hustle

TURBO
07-21-2014, 08:58 PM
Surprise surprise. Craig can't command his fastball. How many times have we said that this season.

not that many.

TDlxANDER
07-21-2014, 09:00 PM
He still may get out of this, but Craig seems to struggle in these non-save type situations.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:01 PM
not that many.

More than we ever have though. Every time he's struggled it's been the same reason why. I think 5-6 outings like this is bad for Craig. Just because we expect so much from him.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:02 PM
Who didn't hustle

The younger brother.

Five
07-21-2014, 09:02 PM
The younger brother.

That's racist.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:02 PM
One more, Craig.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:03 PM
That's racist.

Wouldn't be the first time apparently.

drewdat
07-21-2014, 09:04 PM
True or false: I know what that means.

False

Cheating. Vaseline or whatever.

Just throwing it out there. Didn't seem like his motion was that deceptive, he was soft tossing, and he was getting weird swings.

TURBO
07-21-2014, 09:04 PM
Impressive

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:04 PM
I love seeing Craig fired up like this!

Gattis walk off would be pretty sweet.

Heyward
07-21-2014, 09:04 PM
Good job, Craig, nice catch, Tommy.

TDlxANDER
07-21-2014, 09:05 PM
Way to bounce back, Craig.

Please end this ASAP

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:05 PM
Impressive

Yeah that was dominant when he loaded the bases.

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 09:05 PM
That was awesome.

bravesnumberone
07-21-2014, 09:07 PM
I know I've been quick to the trigger but whoever jumped all over Craig before he have up a run needs to shut the hell up. Maybe he gets bored and likes to challenge himself.

zitothebrave
07-21-2014, 09:09 PM
Who didn't hustle
No me

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/2026406/fry-doing-the-hustle-o.gif

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:10 PM
I know I've been quick to the trigger but whoever jumped all over Craig before he have up a run needs to shut the hell up. Maybe he gets bored and likes to challenge himself.

All I said was that when he's been in trouble this season it's been because he can't command his fastball.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:11 PM
Simba! Smart player on the bases!

Craig walk it off time!!!

Heyward
07-21-2014, 09:11 PM
Good hustle, Simba.

Five
07-21-2014, 09:12 PM
No me

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/2026406/fry-doing-the-hustle-o.gif

Now that's hustle

Five
07-21-2014, 09:14 PM
Obviously pitching around Doumit to fave BJ

Heyward
07-21-2014, 09:15 PM
BJ with the game on the line.

Onto extras.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:16 PM
Need to pull this one out.

Rockies are getting http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/jTx/po8/jTxpo8LTE.jpeg

zitothebrave
07-21-2014, 09:16 PM
Bossman Ks on 4 pitches.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:16 PM
BJ with the game on the line.

Onto extras.

Maybe not. Can't BJ actually give a run to the Marlins or take a run away from the Braves?

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 09:17 PM
Smart move. BJ will probably bunt.

TDlxANDER
07-21-2014, 09:19 PM
Why wasn't BJ taking two pitches there?

Five
07-21-2014, 09:19 PM
Well at least it was put in play. That's an achievement.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:19 PM
What a loser. Why are you swinging?

zitothebrave
07-21-2014, 09:19 PM
How the **** do you let that clown swing? ****ing Fredi.

Heyward
07-21-2014, 09:19 PM
BJ with the game on the line.

Onto extras.

Sadly right again, just got under it.

Although he should of took the pitch on 3-1.

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 09:24 PM
This ump blows.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:28 PM
This ump blows.

He was fine for the majority of the night. Now all of a sudden he's changed what is a strike and a ball.

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 09:30 PM
Freaking A. Come on Simmons

CrimsonCowboy
07-21-2014, 09:31 PM
Strike zone is about the size of a needle

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 09:31 PM
Need the lefty in here.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:32 PM
And back to second place we go.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 09:32 PM
Worst umpiring behind the plate I've seen in a while.

UNCBlue012
07-21-2014, 09:32 PM
Looks like the ump cost us this game.

Braves1976
07-21-2014, 09:32 PM
That was another missed call, strike three!
Of course it leads to two runs too...

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 09:33 PM
Unbelievable. You don't pitch Simmons (while he is struggling and has no room for error) against someone with Garrett's splits.

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 09:33 PM
Should have gone with Shrieve vs Jones. Instead, we continue to abuse Simmons and Varvaro.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 09:33 PM
This offense needs to be fckn embarrassed. Pathetic showing tonight.

AerchAngel
07-21-2014, 09:34 PM
Conspiracy, umps were told when Nats are up and Braves are down, call it tight.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 09:34 PM
Should have gone with Shrieve vs Jones. Instead, we continue to abuse Simmons and Varvaro.

Yep. Called for it before the terrible (easy to predict) result.

Braves1976
07-21-2014, 09:34 PM
Should have gone with Shrieve vs Jones. Instead, we continue to abuse Simmons and Varvaro.

Agreed. Plus I'd started him this inning with two lefties to start it.

atl717
07-21-2014, 09:36 PM
Maybe this joke of an offense should score more than 1 run against weak pitching.

Heyward
07-21-2014, 09:36 PM
Unbelievable. You don't pitch Simmons (while he is struggling and has no room for error) against someone with Garrett's splits.

While true, the offense scored one freaking run.

Not gonna win very many ball-games like that, although i woulda gone to the lefty vs Jones not that it woulda mattered even though it looked like Simmons was squeezed.

Lville21
07-21-2014, 09:37 PM
Simmons going through a rough patch due to being overused. He has given up 5 runs in his last 2.1 innings.

Heyward
07-21-2014, 09:37 PM
Maybe this joke of an offense should score more than 1 run against weak pitching.

Glad someone gets it.

Woulda gone with the lefty but one run isnt gonna cut it since they had many chances to win the game.

Heyward
07-21-2014, 09:37 PM
Looks like the ump cost us this game.

Scoring 1 run cost us this game.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 09:38 PM
Glad someone gets it.

Woulda gone with the lefty but one run isnt gonna cut it since they had many chances to win the game.

No one is saying the only reason we are down is because Fredi messed up. It wasn't even hinted at. The offense sucks. We are all well aware.

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 09:38 PM
Maybe this joke of an offense should score more than 1 run against weak pitching.

Oh, this offense is the number 1 culprit no doubt.

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 09:42 PM
Alright, predict the final score of this game. Winner(s) gets a free thanks for the rest of their posts in this thread.

VirginiaBrave
07-21-2014, 09:42 PM
Generally I don't think baseball cares how the games go, But the other night on quick pitch the hostess Ms Whatney, said "The Nats are about to go on a run..."

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 09:43 PM
Alright, predict the final score of this game. Winner(s) gets a free thanks for the rest of their posts in this thread.

5-3

jason27nc
07-21-2014, 09:43 PM
Unbelievable. You don't pitch Simmons (while he is struggling and has no room for error) against someone with Garrett's splits.

This is the things that bother me the most about Fredi. You have to know your personnel and use them accordingly. Plus to put a young guy in that position to fail is not good either.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 09:43 PM
Scoring 1 run cost us this game.

Yup. Can't do much when your 1-2-3 hitters are 0-13.

Freeman 1 for his last 21

Lostman 3 fir his last 23

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 09:44 PM
Alright, predict the final score of this game. Winner(s) gets a free thanks for the rest of their posts in this thread.

3-1.

Ceshek is unhittable vs us.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 09:45 PM
Yup. Can't do much when your 1-2-3 hitters are 0-13.

Freeman 1 for his last 21

Lostman 3 fir his last 23

Time to switch out the #2 guy. #Fredilogic

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 09:46 PM
Fckn horse **** AB Freeman.

AerchAngel
07-21-2014, 09:47 PM
I think Freddie needs a night off.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 09:47 PM
"They got nothing to get me out with."

Heyward
07-21-2014, 09:47 PM
Alright, predict the final score of this game. Winner(s) gets a free thanks for the rest of their posts in this thread.

3-1

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 09:48 PM
Slider away

AerchAngel
07-21-2014, 09:48 PM
Changed lineup = loss.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 09:48 PM
Wow who saw that coming Justin.

Heyward
07-21-2014, 09:49 PM
Generally I don't think baseball cares how the games go, But the other night on quick pitch the hostess Ms Whatney, said "The Nats are about to go on a run..."

I would say something, oh nevermind.

NinersSBChamps
07-21-2014, 09:49 PM
How about that top three of the order.

0-15

jason27nc
07-21-2014, 09:49 PM
I think Freddie needs a night off.

I think Fredi needs the night off also.

AerchAngel
07-21-2014, 09:49 PM
"They got nothing to get me out with."

Miami laughs and then spit on the ground with total disrespect on that quote.

Dalyn
07-21-2014, 09:49 PM
How about that top three of the order.

0-15

Ready for the playoffs! :tchop:

CyYoung31
07-21-2014, 09:50 PM
3-1.

Ceshek is unhittable vs us.

I meant put the qualifier of the score having to change. Sorry, no thanks for you.

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 09:50 PM
How about that top three of the order.

0-15

4 and 5 hitters...4 hits

Get that fckn sorry waste of space out of the lead off spot and off this damn team!!!!!!!

AerchAngel
07-21-2014, 09:51 PM
How about that top three of the order.

0-15

Dude I backed you up on the line up change and guess what we were both right, don't change whats working.

Koehler?

Who in the blue hell is this roodi pooh candy ass?


Braves response....."we are his bitch"

rico43
07-21-2014, 09:51 PM
I know this will sound like a second guess, but I did not like this lineup. La Stella in the toughest possible place to drive in runs. Freeman is useless -- again -- and BJ is not a guy who will win you championships as a leadoff man.

Heyward
07-21-2014, 09:52 PM
Ready for the playoffs! :tchop:

If we even make the playoffs :Sad:

jsebe10
07-21-2014, 09:52 PM
I know this will sound like a second guess, but I did not like this lineup. La Stella in the toughest possible place to drive in runs. Freeman is useless -- again -- and BJ is not a guy who will win you championships as a leadoff man.

BJ won't win anyone any championships. He shouldn't be I'm baseball at all.

AerchAngel
07-21-2014, 09:55 PM
I know this will sound like a second guess, but I did not like this lineup. La Stella in the toughest possible place to drive in runs. Freeman is useless -- again -- and BJ is not a guy who will win you championships as a leadoff man.

But but but the forum wants Les Stella in the 2nd position because his OPS is awesome, but he has ABSOLUTELY SUCKED (in Rocks voice) batting 2nd so far this year. I know THe Elder is not a typical leadoff but when SImba was behind him he was serviceable. Fredi the Idiot decide to switch things up when we were playing good and then we let some Jabroni own us....again.

We aren't going to win with stupid decisions like this.

Heyward
07-21-2014, 09:55 PM
He shouldn't be I'm baseball at all.

English?