GDT: (08/14/14) Dodgers (Hernandez) @ Braves (Harang) Early Game!

[CyYoung31]

I have a terrible record making GDTs this year, but you guys have left me no choice.

Heyward
Bonafacio
Freeman
Upton
Johnson
La Stella
Simmons
Laird

[CyYoung31]

Looks like the Braves haven't woke up yet.

[jsebe10]

Beautiful AB Justin. Lol. Fck outta here

[bravesnumberone]

Game we really need to win. Off to an uninspiring start.

[NinersSBChamps]

We can hit Carmona.

[bravesnumberone]

We can hit Carmona.

Unfortunately the Dodgers can hit Harang better.

[bravesnumberone]

First home run since May 6. Lol fycking pathetic team.

[CyYoung31]

That was an absolute meatball from Harang.

WTF is a Butera?

[Dalyn]

I'm sure Harang will settle in and not give up anything else, but it might be too late. :Sad:

[Dalyn]

Anyone worried that Boni batting second is one step from BJ batting second?

[bravesnumberone]

Anyone worried that Boni batting second is one step from BJ batting second?

Beyond stupid that Tommy isn't hitting second today. Beyond stupid.

[NinersSBChamps]

Alright time to root for Detroit, New York, and San Diego.

[NinersSBChamps]

Fredi told CJ to get a single.

[jsebe10]

I can't believe the ****ty ABs so far vs this fckn scrub of a pitcher.

[bravesnumberone]

I can't believe the ****ty ABs so far vs this fckn scrub of a pitcher.

Why can't you? Also, it's a scrub offense. Let's be realistic.

[CyYoung31]

Harang doesn't have it. Could be a long day.

[thethe]

David O'Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 6m
From Bill Chuck at http://Gammonsdaily.com : Of the 9 MLB teams with the most strikeouts, only the #Braves (61-59) have a winning record


Yeah, I think strikeouts do matter.

[jsebe10]

These two manning the battery aren't going to cut for our "stretch run".

[bravesnumberone]

Harang doesn't have it. Could be a long day.

And it's too much to expect our poor wittle offense to actually build a rally.

[NinersSBChamps]

Gonna be tough to win today. After it's a four run deficit we are finished.

[jsebe10]

Get his fat fckn ass outta there!!! Fckn fat ass failed his team today.

[CyYoung31]

Well, this one is over. ****ing great performance.

[bravesnumberone]

Out of the game by the third inning. Way to show up, boys.

[bravesnumberone]

Now that this one's over, I think we are owed a position swap of Laird and Harang.

[jsebe10]

Out of the game by the third inning. Way to show up, boys.

Laughing stock of baseball running this fat turd out there every. 5th day. It's fckn embarrassing.

[NinersSBChamps]

Laughing stock of baseball running this fat turd out there every. 5th day. It's fckn embarrassing.

Harang has been our third best starter pretty much all season.

[jsebe10]

Now that this one's over, I think we are owed a position swap of Laird and Harang.

I can't wait until next year when fat ass Laird leaves. Can't hit to save his fat life and sucks defensively.

[Dalyn]

Laughing stock of baseball running this fat turd out there every. 5th day. It's fckn embarrassing.

Harang is doing a great job for us. Ridiculous how much **** he continues to get.

[Dalyn]

Harang has been our third best starter pretty much all season.

Our second best, really.

[bravesnumberone]

Harang's been OK for us. He is what he is. He can't get an actual good hitting team out for long.

Someone on this team needs to fire this bunch the **** up. Throw some water coolers, I don't care. Let CJ set it off. We won a big game last night where we actually showed some testicular fortitude, and today they've come out like a bunch of ass clowns.

[jpack1]

Can Fredi really survive another crash ending of a season? I really don't think so, or is that just hope. This team has all but quit, and that's on management.

[jsebe10]

Harang has been our third best starter pretty much all season.

Yea by the Braves standards. It's still fckn humiliating that we run a washed up fat ass veteran out there.

[NinersSBChamps]

Our second best, really.

Yeah he's been far more consistent than Ervin.

[jsebe10]

Oooooo laird is up. Watch this **** show

[Dalyn]

Can Fredi really survive another crash ending of a season? I really don't think so, or is that just hope. This team has all but quit, and that's on management.

Probably just hope, unfortunately.

[jsebe10]

BOY YOU GOTTA HOLD OF THAT FAT ASS!! Sent Gordon to edge of the IF grass!!!

[bravesnumberone]

Laird throws the ball further than he hits it. He hit that one almost to where his stomach ends.

Fcking Fatty.

[Dalyn]

Harang's been OK for us. He is what he is. He can't get an actual good hitting team out for long.

Someone on this team needs to fire this bunch the **** up. Throw some water coolers, I don't care. Let CJ set it off. We won a big game last night where we actually showed some testicular fortitude, and today they've come out like a bunch of ass clowns.

That just isn't true (this year). He's had very few bad games. He consistently throws out a quality start against good and bad teams.

[stpeteirish]

Harang's been OK for us. He is what he is. He can't get an actual good hitting team out for long.

Someone on this team needs to fire this bunch the **** up. Throw some water coolers, I don't care. Let CJ set it off. We won a big game last night where we actually showed some testicular fortitude, and today they've come out like a bunch of ass clowns.

unfortunately, the harder we try, the worse we get. Everyone trying to hit the five run homer,swinging at everything.

he other teams aren't stupid, they know how to pitch to us.

[bravesnumberone]

That just isn't true (this year). He's had very few bad games. He consistently throws out a quality start against good and bad teams.

No, what I'm saying is it's not realistic to expect it to last. I know he's done a good job overall this year, much better than expected. But there's no reason not to believe he's a pumpkin.

[jsebe10]

And that right there is the problem with this fckn joke of a baseball team, they can't ever get **** going!! On the rare chances they do, they fckn choke

[NinersSBChamps]

It doesn't really matter who starts for the Braves. This offense constructed by Frank Wren will consistently fail.

[bravesnumberone]

Can Fredi really survive another crash ending of a season? I really don't think so, or is that just hope. This team has all but quit, and that's on management.

I don't know if firing him is necessarily the answer; I just know something is not working. Even if firing him were the answer, I don't think this organization has the balls to do it to a guy that was practically handpicked by Bobby Cox and had the job almost from day 1.

[bravesnumberone]

Let's see if someone will become a leader. Freddie, Justin, I'm calling you two out.

[NinersSBChamps]

I don't know if firing him is necessarily the answer; I just know something is not working. Even if firing him were the answer, I don't think this organization has the balls to do it to a guy that was practically handpicked by Bobby Cox and had the job almost from day 1.

I think it starts at the top. I have said it countless times that Frank Wren is the problem. When you put together a lineup that has a ton of low contact hitters who strikeout a lot you are in trouble. The home runs are nice, but you can't count on that as your source of scoring runs. Now I am not saying Wren needs to be fired or whatever, but a change in philosophy needs to happen.

Sure the team has had regular season success the last few seasons, but this group reached it's ceiling last year. Getting bent over in the NLDS.

[gilesfan]

David O'Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 6m
From Bill Chuck at http://Gammonsdaily.com : Of the 9 MLB teams with the most strikeouts, only the #Braves (61-59) have a winning record


Yeah, I think strikeouts do matter.

Team k%:
Marlins 23.5%
Astros 23.3%
Cubs 22.8%
Braves 22.6%
Padres 22.0%
White Sox 22.0%
Twins 21.3%
Giants 21.3%
Nationals 21.2%
Red Sox 21.1%

wRC+ rank:
Marlins 19
Astros 15
Cubs 26
Braves 23
Padres 30
White Sox 10
Twins 13
Giants 17
Nationals 14
Red Sox 27

Lowest k% rank:
Royals 15.8%
As 17.5%
Rays 17.8%
Tigers 18.4%
Yanks 18.4%
Cards 18.6%
Blue Jays 18.6%
Indians 19.0%
Diamondbacks 19.1%
Rangers 19.6%

wRC+ Ranks:
Royals 20
As 4
Rays 8
Tigers 2
Yanks 18
Cards 16
Blue Jays 6
Indians 7
Diamondbacks 24
Rangers 25

Overall record also takes runs given up into account so saying strikeouts matter and using wins/loss as your proof is not very intelligent.

Lets do OBP for fun:

OBP ranks (high):
Pirates
Tigers
Dodgers
Blue Jays
Rockies

wRC+ Ranks
Pirates 3
Tigers 2
Dodgers 5
Blue Jays 6
Rockies 12

OBP% Low:
Padres
Cubs
Mariners
Reds
Phillies

wRC+ Ranks:
Padres 30
Cubs 26
Mariners 22
Reds 28
Phillies 29

Maybe Power?

Iso High with rc+ rank:
Rockies 12
Oreos 9
Blue Jays 6
Brewers 11
Tigers 2

Iso Low with RC+ ranks:
Royals 20
Mets 21
Cards 16
Pads 30
Phils 29



Hmmm, is OBP king?

[The Chosen One]

Amazing we can't score off of Fauxsto...

[NinersSBChamps]

Keep up the patient at bats. That's the key against Carmen.

[Dalyn]

This is it. Fish dicks will rain down!

[Dalyn]

Nice take.

[bravesnumberone]

I think it starts at the top. I have said it countless times that Frank Wren is the problem. When you put together a lineup that has a ton of low contact hitters who strikeout a lot you are in trouble. The home runs are nice, but you can't count on that as your source of scoring runs. Now I am not saying Wren needs to be fired or whatever, but a change in philosophy needs to happen.

Sure the team has had regular season success the last few seasons, but this group reached it's ceiling last year. Getting bent over in the NLDS.

Yep, I think it's time to reevaluate, but there are also only so many positions to change. Freeman and Simmons are locked up. It'll be hard to move BJ, but they may just decide to Uggla him to the bench. Gattis could be traded, but that just would give us Bethancourt full time. CJ could be moved, but we'd need to find a 3B unless Peraza is gonna play there. Outfield seems pretty set.

[The Chosen One]

Attaboy Chris. Guy gives up 2 walks and you keep hacking.

[Dalyn]

Ugh. He just missed that.

[bravesnumberone]

Useless CJ.

[jason27nc]

As long as we have a mediocre manager we will have a mediocre team. I would be willing to bet anyone on here could coach this team to this record. A good manager would have us winning those tight extra inning games. Plus he would not screw up the lineup like Fredi has all year.

[gilesfan]

Is there a bigger rally killer in the history of baseball than Chris Johnson?

Two walks----first pitch to him a ball. Seems like a good spot to maybe take a pitch? Nope.....Guess that's why he's walked 3% of PA this year.

[gilesfan]

What do you know, cant find strike zone with TLS.

[cajunrevenge]

Bobby was once fired by the Braves. I can hear Wren now "who do we want to hire? It would be Fredi Gonzalez if I hadn't just fired him. We need a guy like that around here."

[bravesnumberone]

Is there a bigger rally killer in the history of baseball than Chris Johnson?

Two walks----first pitch to him a ball. Seems like a good spot to maybe take a pitch? Nope.....Guess that's why he's walked 3% of PA this year.

Gattis is pretty good at killing rallies when he's in his Vlad Guerrero mode of swinging at everything. Only, he doesn't get Vlad results.

[Dalyn]

Is there a bigger rally killer in the history of baseball than Chris Johnson?

Two walks----first pitch to him a ball. Seems like a good spot to maybe take a pitch? Nope.....Guess that's why he's walked 3% of PA this year.

Is that why he is one of the best on the team with RISP?

[Dalyn]

That called strike was outside.

[The Chosen One]

This makes CJ'S ab look even more terrible.

[Dalyn]

Stella! :tchop:

[cajunrevenge]

Is there a bigger rally killer in the history of baseball than Chris Johnson?

Two walks----first pitch to him a ball. Seems like a good spot to maybe take a pitch? Nope.....Guess that's why he's walked 3% of PA this year.

Yes, and they both played (attempted to) for the braves this year.

[bravesnumberone]

**** Uribe. Simmons couldn't help that. If waste of air CJ had any clue of how to approach an at bat, we would have scored more than 1.

[NinersSBChamps]

Pablo Sandoval is the Kung fu panda.

Juan Uribe is the karate sloth.

[bravesnumberone]

Fatty about to give the run right back.

[jsebe10]

Is it possible to keep this crack head lookin MFer off the bags at all this year!?!?

[bravesnumberone]

I remember a couple folks on here wanting Gordon. He'd be pretty nice about right now.

[bravesnumberone]

Lulz. Noodle arm.

[NinersSBChamps]

Lulz. Noodle arm.

His play saved a run for the time being.

[bravesnumberone]

This is how you hit.

[NinersSBChamps]

Scary to think how bad the Braves record would be if they played in the west division.

[jsebe10]

Thank god. Hit the fckn showers you fat fckn waste of a roster spot

[NinersSBChamps]

So after Oakland sweeps the Braves, does the towel get thrown in?

[bravesnumberone]

Great play Freddie.

Nice job, Hale.

[NinersSBChamps]

Great play Freddie!

[bravesnumberone]

So after Oakland sweeps the Braves, does the towel get thrown in?

If that happens, it'll all depend on how things are looking in the WC. If we're 3 or less out by Sept. 1, I don't see how we can just throw in the towel. But if it really sails south, I hope we call some guys up and see who can play. Also, try to auction off some our dead weight.

[jsebe10]

And here comes buzzkill Bonifacio

[bravesnumberone]

Bonifacio hitting the ball in the air does us no good.

[jsebe10]

Nice clutch AB Emilio Upton. Just love your team inspiring 1 for 12 this series.

[NinersSBChamps]

If that happens, it'll all depend on how things are looking in the WC. If we're 3 or less out by Sept. 1, I don't see how we can just throw in the towel. But if it really sails south, I hope we call some guys up and see who can play. Also, try to auction off some our dead weight.
Well the division is all but over. They do play Pittsburgh seven times still. That is a good or a bad thing.

[CyYoung31]

Chip Caray is such a ****ing idiot. Anthony Rendon says baseball is boring so it must be true!

[CyYoung31]

Nice play by Puig. God forbid we catch a ****ing break.

[CyYoung31]

Now something is wrong with Justin.

[bravesnumberone]

WTF are you swinging at?

[bravesnumberone]

What is Chip even talking about?

Oh, and baseball might not be boring, but our team plays like it is.

[jsebe10]

Never even gotta strike to hit.

[CyYoung31]

WTF is Chip talking about? So, fan interaction is slowing the game down?

[jsebe10]

WTF are you swinging at?

Who knows. He's s fckn idiot. I guess he feels since he's in the 5 spot he has to pull everything out of the park. Fckn tool

[jsebe10]

WTF is Chip talking about? So, fan interaction is slowing the game down?

Notice how not a 1 of them mentioned cutting back on advertising between innings ?

[jsebe10]

Nice big game for Tommy.

[CyYoung31]

Roberto must have made a Faustian bargain for this performance.

[CyYoung31]

Notice how not a 1 of them mentioned cutting back on advertising between innings ?

I guess the interest of the game isn't as important as their paychecks.

[CyYoung31]

Laird just shouldn't swing the bat in that situation.

[bravesnumberone]

To borrow a phrase from Brian McCann,

****ING RUN GODDAMNIT

[jsebe10]

And that's why that fat fckn crooked tooth piece of sht should not be on this team

[jsebe10]

Yay and another irrelevant appearance from Pena.

[CyYoung31]

Wow. Pena gets a hit when no ones on base.

[bravesnumberone]

Why the **** was Avilan called up? he's been terrible. This team makes my brain bleed.

[CyYoung31]

Yay and another irrelevant appearance from Pena.

Our entire bench is irrelevant.

[NinersSBChamps]

So the guy added for bullpen help has been here two weeks and is already relegated to mop up duty.

[NinersSBChamps]

Detroit helping us out. 1-0 over the Pirates right now.

[bravesnumberone]

Well they haven't quit. I'll give them that. Problem is we've gotta go through some great bullpen arms.

[bravesnumberone]

**** **** **** FYCK FYCK **** FYCK FYCK FYCK ****KLKKKKK


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[NinersSBChamps]

Way to show up Tommy.

[NinersSBChamps]

Well they haven't quit. I'll give them that. Problem is we've gotta go through some great bullpen arms.

The problem is La Stella's feeling are hurt because he got moved in the order.

[jsebe10]

Simmons will swing at the 1st pitch.

[bravesnumberone]

Gattis is definitely swinging at the first pitch.

[NinersSBChamps]

Scary thing is that BJ Upton is now the cleanup hitter. I really hope it doesn't come down to him in the bottom of the 9th.

[gilesfan]

That's the problem with letting Gattis swing away a 3-0. Hopefully he gets a better pitch 3-1 and 3-2

[jason27nc]

Scary thing is that BJ Upton is now the cleanup hitter. I really hope it doesn't come down to him in the bottom of the 9th.

Yeah, I don't like that change off. Had that been the go ahead run or even the tying run then I would have liked it better.

[gilesfan]

Yeah, I don't like that change off. Had that been the go ahead run or even the tying run then I would have liked it better.

The Good UPton got hurt

[bravesnumberone]

The Atlanta Cock Teases. Choke choke choke.

[gilesfan]

Damn Chip, an off speed 95 mph pitch. Interesting.

[jason27nc]

The Good UPton got hurt

What happen to him? I am not watching the game. Just on stat tracker.

[jsebe10]

Heat right by him.

[NinersSBChamps]

Can we just start the bottom of the 9th with Jason up and 1 out?

That is much better than having to watch Doumit.

[NinersSBChamps]

What happen to him? I am not watching the game. Just on stat tracker.

Knee or quad or something.

[jsebe10]

Knee or quad or something.

Chip said his Hammy ... So that could mean his back hurts

[gilesfan]

Chip said his Hammy ... So that could mean his back hurts

Hes fatigued from carrying his brother.

[NinersSBChamps]

Chip said his Hammy ... So that could mean his back hurts

He also called Jensen's last pitch to Gattis off speed. It was 95 MPH. He did correct himself, but still.

[bravesnumberone]

Why was Freeman not charging?

[gilesfan]

Why was Freeman not charging?

BC he would have had no chance to get Gordon

[bravesnumberone]

BC he would have had no chance to get Gordon

It's called second baseman cover.

[NinersSBChamps]

It's a sad day when I would rather see Carpenter pitch in a situation like this.

[NinersSBChamps]

It's called second baseman cover.
Tommy is crying because he isn't batting second.

[jsebe10]

Why was Freeman not charging?

You ever been in a foot race with a junky?

[NinersSBChamps]

Welcome back, Avilan.

[bravesnumberone]

**** you BJ.

**** you Avilan.

**** you Fredi.

**** you Braves.

**** you Mattingly.

**** you baseball.

[jsebe10]

Welcome back guy with ERA over 5...made total sense for you to come back.

[gilesfan]

Don't be surprised if the Dodgers get that run. Gattis had plate blocked. Such a stupid rule.

Nice route by BEEEEJJJJJ

[jason27nc]

**** you BJ.

**** you Avilan.

**** you Fredi.

**** you Braves.

**** you Mattingly.

**** you baseball.

Kinda how I feel.

[CyYoung31]

So glad we called we recalled Avilan. And glad we're not using our closer in the ninth.

[gilesfan]

It's called second baseman cover.

LOL, this isn't little league. TLS would never have beaten Gordon to the bag. The only way he even gets a chance to get over is if it was a pure sac bunt and the 1B was charging.

[Braves78]

Is there any reason as to why Avilan was in this game? Your team fights and scratches it's way back into they game and then u put Avilan in....

[bravesnumberone]

WTF is Gattis supposed to do? Catch the ball at the backstop? Managers have now sufficiently demonstrated that they cannot handle instant replay. It's being severely abused.

[bravesnumberone]

LOL, this isn't little league. TLS would never have beaten Gordon to the bag. The only way he even gets a chance to get over is if it was a pure sac bunt and the 1B was charging.

You can shift guys over to cheat that way. Gordon has been NOTHING but putting bunts down today. You have to have a better plan to combat it.

[gilesfan]

LOL off changing pitchers to face Jensen.

[bravesnumberone]

So glad we called we recalled Avilan. And glad we're not using our closer in the ninth.

Was I mistaken or did he have a WHIP of something like 2 at AAA?

I really can't take this **** anymore. We **** up everything.

[CyYoung31]

Is there any reason as to why Avilan was in this game? Your team fights and scratches it's way back into they game and then u put Avilan in....

Exactly. I mean, Kimbrel did throw a lot of pitches last night, and it's a short turnover but still. Sometimes you have to say "**** it." This was one of those times.

[jsebe10]

Haha. Wow. He burns Vavaro to face the fckn pitcher.

[UNCBlue012]

I come how to see Avilan pitch as awful as he did before he got sent down. It makes no logical sense as to why it's him instead of Shreve.

[gilesfan]

Fredi burns a reliever to bring in a righty to face a lefty. Who wants to guess that Fredi didn't know Jensen batted left handed?

Edit- Hes a switch hitter.

Still ridiculous.

[jason27nc]

Who here still thinks Fredi is a good manager?

[CyYoung31]

LOL off changing pitchers to face Jensen.

Maybe Fredi hoped he could trick them into pinch-hitting for Jansen.

[jsebe10]

Fredi burns a reliever to bring in a righty to face a lefty. Who wants to guess that Fredi didn't know Jensen batted left handed?

Edit- Hes a switch hitter.

Still ridiculous.

How much you wanna bet he forgot about the double switch and didn't even know he was hitting?

[Braves78]

I have been a Braves fan for 25 years and have watched every game that I have had a chance to watch. However for the first time in 25 years I am going to choose not to watch until FG is gone. Call me what you want but how I see it is hopefully less rating for TV and fewer people in seats at the game may actually force this team to finally get rid of FG. I would love to see Frank Wren gone as well (Uggla and now BJ contracts ) but that won't happen. And yes I am a Neilson home.

[gilesfan]

Maybe Fredi hoped they'd replace Jansen?

He'd be really dumb.

OTOH, Jensen looks like he can swing the bat. Probably 3rd or 4th best hitter in our lineup.

[bravesnumberone]

Are any of you really going to defend this moron anymore?

He brings in Avilan, a guy who got DEMOTED and then SUCKED in the MINORS to face the teeth of their order and then burned another guy to face a goddamn relief pitcher.

[Braves78]

Are any of you really going to defend this moron anymore?

He brings in Avilan, a guy who got DEMOTED and then SUCKED in the MINORS to face the teeth of their order and then burned another guy to face a goddamn relief pitcher.

Exactly

[CyYoung31]

I mean, what does it say about your decision to recall Avilan if you don't even trust him to get the pitcher out?

[Dalyn]

Bringing Avilan in. :facepalm:

[CyYoung31]

Another irrelevant appearance by Doumit.

[UNCBlue012]

Doumit has been so awful. I've been gone all day, come back for one inning and I get pissed off. haha

[AerchAngel]

I am numb to FG.
Counseling worked.
He told me to think like in The Waterboy, picture what FG reminds me of then I see a little monkey clapping a cymbal to put a smile on my face instead of the ulcers I usually get.

[Dalyn]

Haha. Wow. He burns Vavaro to face the fckn pitcher.

:facepalm: There is a time and place to fire Fredi. Now and Atlanta.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Bringing Avilan in then leading off with Doumit.....

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tlmFooqySI8/RlIsjouvT0I/AAAAAAAAAeE/HJZBWI6YC48/s320/AaronCook.com_Homer_Simpson.gif

[Dalyn]

Heyward is going to do so well with the Yankees.

[Dalyn]

Bunt for hit!

[Dalyn]

Are any of you really going to defend this moron anymore?

He brings in Avilan, a guy who got DEMOTED and then SUCKED in the MINORS to face the teeth of their order and then burned another guy to face a goddamn relief pitcher.

If we go to extra innings, we'll lose when Carpenter has to go two because Fredi burned Varvaro.

[Dalyn]

Terrible at-bat.

[jsebe10]

How the fck are you so late on a 91 MPH FB!?!? Christ Bono

[gilesfan]

Please pitch to Freddie....please pitch to Freddie

[UNCBlue012]

NOOO ALMOST A HOMER. GOOD JOB FREDDIE

[bravesnumberone]

****.

If that's any other team in baseball, that goes out.

[Dalyn]

How the fck are you so late on a 91 MPH FB!?!? Christ Bono

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1349393/u2-bono-o.gif

[Dalyn]

And it comes down to BJ.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/a9a4318d5e652ac148bce117873d7969/tumblr_inline_mn63fieamy1qz4rgp.gif

[gilesfan]

Please pitch to Freddie....please pitch to Freddie

Thank you Mattingly. This is battle of retarded managers.

Did Mattingly forget who was on deck, lol

[Dalyn]

We need an error. Bad.

[gilesfan]

STFU BJ. Stop arguing over any pitch that's called a strike.

[Dalyn]

Three wild pitches? An error? Couple balks? Come on, LA, give us something!

[bravesnumberone]

Of course. ****ing worthless hack.

[UNCBlue012]

SWEET. BJ is useless. Dude needs to go, I don't care where. Just go.

Freaking strike out. The guy needs to lose money consistently for every K.

[jsebe10]

Shouldn't be in baseball anymore folks

[Dalyn]

Useless.

[jason27nc]

STFU BJ. Stop arguing over any pitch that's called a strike.

That is why he never gets any boarder line pitches in his favor. Umpires hate that. I know because I am one.

[ViperVisor]

Brooks Conrad
where are you !!!!

[bravesnumberone]

BJ Upton bingo.

Be a cunt about a called strike.
Complain some more.
Strike out.

[CyYoung31]

Who the **** didn't see that coming? I'm surprised they even pitched to Freeman.

You just knew BJ was going to get a chance to **** it up in the ninth.

[NinersSBChamps]

Color me shocked.

[Dalyn]

Color me shocked.

:icwudt:

[bravesnumberone]

Tough luck.

BJ just can't get them to fall.

[NinersSBChamps]

It would have been a lot funnier if they walked Freeman. Purposely bring up the winning run at the plate knowing full he can't hit.

[UNCBlue012]

There's a probably a good chance that Heyward is sent there in a one-run game and honestly, he's such a great baserunner but he probably makes it or has a shot. But, FG doesn't care, so whatever.

[AerchAngel]

little monkey clapping a cymbal
little monkey clapping a cymbal


ah, I feel better now, ulcer is retreating

[bravesfanforlife88]

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[CyYoung31]

Where have you gone Brooks Conrad? Braves nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

[bravesnumberone]

I refuse to watch any more games when BJ is in the lineup.

[CyYoung31]

At least we got to watch Fredi burn a reliever with two outs to face a relief pitcher. That was great comedy.

[Dalyn]

At least we got to watch Fredi burn a reliever with two outs to face a relief pitcher. That was great comedy.

In a game that came within a BJ of going to extra innings.

[jcc03004]

Wow this team is freaking clueless as it's manager. The only coach worth a damn right now is McDowell. Gonzalez needs to go , the 2 people who are being paid to teach our hitters how to make #5 starters look like Kershaw needs to go. This is beyond even my worst case scenario I envisioned for this team.

[Braves1976]

Fredi is one of the worst I've ever seen when we are struggling. He must truly panic like Huddy said because it would be hard to be so stupid otherwise. If they don't fire him after this season...

[Dalyn]

In a game that came within a BJ of going to extra innings.

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[jcc03004]

Fredi is one of the worst I've ever seen when we are struggling. He must truly panic like Huddy said because it would be hard to be so stupid otherwise. If they don't fire him after this season...

If wren/js had any sense Gonzalez would be gone tommorow use tp as the interim manager. I'm seeing why freddi was fired from Florida

[Braves1976]

If it was 5-4 Heyward scores there easy with two outs as good as he runs the bases.

[CyYoung31]

We should have won this game. If not for Avilan, Heyward is probably sent there and ties the game.

I can't believe Freeman's ball didn't go out. The baseball gods hate us.

[bravesnumberone]

In a game that came within a BJ of going to extra innings.

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[bravesnumberone]

We should have won this game. If not for Avilan, Heyward is probably sent there and ties the game.

I can't believe Freeman's ball didn't go out. The baseball gods hate us.

No Fredi Gonzalez is just an incompetent twat.

[Dalyn]

In a game that came within a BJ of going to extra innings.

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[jcc03004]

We should have won this game. If not for Avilan, Heyward is probably sent there and ties the game.

I can't believe Freeman's ball didn't go out. The baseball gods hate us.

I swear every time a break has been handed out this year it has gone against the Braves. Of course it doesn't help to have a manager who burns a reliever to just pitch to the opposing pitcher. Compared to the Dodgers we might as well be a little league team minus the mercy rule. So is this what we have to look forward to for the rest of the year ? I have not been so disheartened with this team since Wohlers gave up the homer to Leyritz

[Braves1976]

I'm afraid we will need to keep losing a while and miss the playoffs for that to be considered. I wouldn't even be surprised if Wren goes before Fredi, though I'd argue Fredi is hurting us more and should've been fired after the collapse.

[Dalyn]

I'm starting to think (with September looming) that we'll finish below 80 wins.

[tvsportscaster]

The Braves now have 60 losses, they lost 66 all of last year, and they just did the damn near impossible, faced the Dodgers in a 4-game series without Greinke and Kershaw and lost three out of the four games. Unbelieveable.

[jcc03004]

I'm starting to think (with September looming) that we'll finish below 80 wins.

All I know is we had better see wholesale changes on our coaching staff next year outside of McDowell . I've defended Wren up until this point, but he put together this offense... Who would replace him if he got fired ? Maybe it would have been better to be sellers and restocked our farm somewhat....

[jcc03004]

The Braves now have 60 losses, they lost 66 all of last year, and they just did the damn near impossible, faced the Dodgers in a 4-game series without Greinke and Kershaw and lost three out of the four games. Unbelieveable.

Tv the braves are 3-12 in their last 15 games. I'm beginning to think it does not matter what we do we pitch well we can't score .. We score and the pitchers can't stop the other team from scoring ... This team really looks lost ...

[Millwood1Hitter]

The Braves now have 60 losses, they lost 66 all of last year, and they just did the damn near impossible, faced the Dodgers in a 4-game series without Greinke and Kershaw and lost three out of the four games. Unbelieveable.

Yeah but we can all take solace in the fact that we faced Cy Young candidate Kevin Correa and what's his name, he's so great that he has to change him name Roberto Hernandez, Fausto Carmona, Roberto Carmona, Fausto Hernandez. I was expecting to see him late in the game with some nasty splitters, instead of just saw a lot of sinkers, I mean I was like "Who in the hell is this guy!" and I'm sure the Braves felt the same way.

[DirkPiggler]

All I know is we had better see wholesale changes on our coaching staff next year outside of McDowell . I've defended Wren up until this point, but he put together this offense... Who would replace him if he got fired ? Maybe it would have been better to be sellers and restocked our farm somewhat....

There's still time to sell.

At this point what's the harm in selling Santana, Harang (if anyone wants him, which is doubtful), or any other short-timer for whatever we can get for them?

I wouldn't do anything drastic like trading one of the position players not named B.J. until the off-season, but why not at least gauge the market on the two pitchers mentioned above?

[VirginiaBrave]

I would deal Santana no doubt. .500 is going to be a reach. Might even be willing to deal Justin and Gattis if the haul back was right.

[bravesnumberone]

I would deal Santana no doubt. .500 is going to be a reach. Might even be willing to deal Justin and Gattis if the haul back was right.

We better be talking a serious haul, particularly for Justin. I would not trade our first or second best hitter, depending on how you look at it.

[bravesnumberone]

If we haven't made up ground or have lost ground by the time we get through next weekend, I would heavily market Santana and even see if anyone wants to kick tires on Aaron Merengue.

[AerchAngel]

I am on board if we have to give Gattis away if someone takes BJ's contract. I can't stand him and his attitudes at the plate when a call goes against him.

Dude, quit your fcking yapping as you have not one ounce of respect from any one in the league with your Mendoza line hitting ass.

[Enscheff]

You geniuses realize that Santana and Harang (or anyone) would have to first pass through waivers in order to be traded? Chances are neither of them would make it through and the Braves would be stuck dealing with only the team that claimed them, and thus losing almost all leverage. In the case of someone like Gattis, who would be claimed by even the worst teams, nobody with a poor enough record to win the claim on a player like Gattis would be willing/able to take on BJ's contract.

But I'm sure such astute baseball minds already knew about those minor complications.

[bravesnumberone]

You geniuses realize that Santana and Harang (or anyone) would have to first pass through waivers in order to be traded? Chances are neither of them would make it through and the Braves would be stuck dealing with only the team that claimed them, and thus losing almost all leverage. In the case of someone like Gattis, who would be claimed by even the worst teams, nobody with a poor enough record to win the claim on a player like Gattis would be willing/able to take on BJ's contract.

But I'm sure such astute baseball minds already knew about those minor complications.

OK, smartass. So tell me how big deals have often happened in August. You can't assume things. It's not likely, but you at least try and see if something happens.

[The Chosen One]

Don't think we'd get much value for Ervin via waiver.

Might get more value offering him arby and him declining.

[AerchAngel]

Don't think we'd get much value for Ervin via waiver.

Might get more value offering him arby and him declining.

ANd if he takes our bid? We better be low enough for him not to be interested.

[NinersSBChamps]

You geniuses realize that Santana and Harang (or anyone) would have to first pass through waivers in order to be traded? Chances are neither of them would make it through and the Braves would be stuck dealing with only the team that claimed them, and thus losing almost all leverage. In the case of someone like Gattis, who would be claimed by even the worst teams, nobody with a poor enough record to win the claim on a player like Gattis would be willing/able to take on BJ's contract.



But I'm sure such astute baseball minds already knew about those minor complications.
Then they revoke the player(s) that were on waivers. No harm no foul.

[57Brave]

Then they revoke the player(s) that were on waivers. No harm no foul.

what?

[JusticeForAll23]

The Braves now have 60 losses, they lost 66 all of last year, and they just did the damn near impossible, faced the Dodgers in a 4-game series without Greinke and Kershaw and lost three out of the four games. Unbelieveable.
We're a really, really bad baseball team being run by an even worse manager. Good/playoff baseball teams don't lose 3 out of 4 at home to the Dodgers if the miraculously miss Kershaw and Greinke. It really is that simple. We suck.

[CyYoung31]

We're a really, really bad baseball team being run by an even worse manager. Good/playoff baseball teams don't lose 3 out of 4 at home to the Dodgers if the miraculously miss Kershaw and Greinke. It really is that simple. We suck.

We weren't a bad baseball team before this month. We're just in a major funk right now. We'll get out of it, but it may be too little too late by the time that happens.

[DirkPiggler]

You geniuses realize that Santana and Harang (or anyone) would have to first pass through waivers in order to be traded? Chances are neither of them would make it through and the Braves would be stuck dealing with only the team that claimed them, and thus losing almost all leverage. In the case of someone like Gattis, who would be claimed by even the worst teams, nobody with a poor enough record to win the claim on a player like Gattis would be willing/able to take on BJ's contract.

But I'm sure such astute baseball minds already knew about those minor complications.

I'd bet a sizable amount that both Santana and Harang have already cleared waivers. But even if they haven't, what's the harm in trying to get them through?

[NinersSBChamps]

what?

There are different types of waivers you can place a player on.

It's called revocable waivers. Team A puts a claim on a player. The original team in this case is the Braves. The Braves can choose to pull that player back if they wish.

[Tapate50]

Beej on pace for 201 K's.

[Julio3000]

Beej on pace for 201 K's.

It's always great to have a big milestone to root for when your team falls out of contention. I just hope he gets enough ABs to make it. Maybe Fredi should consider hitting him leadoff.

[VirginiaBrave]

We weren't a bad baseball team before this month. We're just in a major funk right now. We'll get out of it, but it may be too little too late by the time that happens.

This is not a funk. We are a bad baseball team. We had one good month....one. Let that sink in. You can't really blame the injuries either. Santana has replaced Medlen well and Harang has been serviceable. This year is not Fredi's fault either. He's got what he's got to work with. This is a talented group but BJ and Minor just did not show up this year. Gattis while not a bust has proven he's a DH playing catcher, but other than that the 29 other teams would line up to take any of our starters. As fans we should count ourselves fortunate. This is as close to '80s Braves baseball as we have been since then. Those teams just couldn't compete because of talent. This team doesn't have that excuse.

[57Brave]

There are different types of waivers you can place a player on.

It's called revocable waivers. Team A puts a claim on a player. The original team in this case is the Braves. The Braves can choose to pull that player back if they wish.

never mind

[NinersSBChamps]

never mind

Not sure what you getting at.

You asked "what." I answered.

[Tapate50]

This is not a funk. We are a bad baseball team. We had one good month....one. Let that sink in. You can't really blame the injuries either. Santana has replaced Medlen well and Harang has been serviceable. This year is not Fredi's fault either. He's got what he's got to work with. This is a talented group but BJ and Minor just did not show up this year. Gattis while not a bust has proven he's a DH playing catcher, but other than that the 29 other teams would line up to take any of our starters. As fans we should count ourselves fortunate. This is as close to '80s Braves baseball as we have been since then. Those teams just couldn't compete because of talent. This team doesn't have that excuse.

DUDE, WE GOT IT

[Tapate50]

It's always great to have a big milestone to root for when your team falls out of contention. I just hope he gets enough ABs to make it. Maybe Fredi should consider hitting him leadoff.

Dan Uggla is rooting hard.

[57Brave]

Not sure what you getting at.

You asked "what." I answered.


The "what?" was a rhetorical what

[Julio3000]

The "what?" was a rhetorical what

Say "what " again.

[UNCBlue012]

Why don't we just stop losing games? It's simple as that.

[Dalyn]

Say "what " again.

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