8-27-14: GDT: Braves (Julio) @ Mets (Wheeler)

[NinersSBChamps]

Lineups will be posted in a minute.

Braves:
Jason Heyward (RF)
Phil Gosselin (3B)
Freddie Freeman (1B)
Justin Upton (LF)
Evan Gattis (C)
Tonmy La Stella (2B)
Andrelton Simmons (SS)
Overpaid idiot (CF)
Julio Teheran (P)

Mets:
Mike Piazza
Mookie Wilson
And some others

[NinersSBChamps]

Whoooo hoooo

Jason with a lead off oppo blast

[AerchAngel]

weak

Heybeast with a BLAST.

[Julio3000]

Get some.

[Ampere]

Nice to see CJ with a day off.

I love opposite field homers from Heyward.

[NinersSBChamps]

Not sure what Freddie was thinking. The pitch was never above the knees.

[Julio3000]

Nice to see CJ with a day off.

I love opposite field homers from Heyward.

I associate that with him really being locked in. It's a good sign.

[Julio3000]

4 97-98 fastballs to JUp.

[NinersSBChamps]

4 97-98 fastballs to JUp.

Yeah you throw them until he shows he can hit it.

[NinersSBChamps]

I wish Granderson would start sucking again. Maybe we could swap BJ and Grandy.

[NinersSBChamps]

Never mind he is sucking already.

[USMA76]

Wheeler is bringing it. Consistently 97-98 mph.

[NinersSBChamps]

It still amazes teams walk BJ to get to the pitcher.

[USMA76]

Ump squeezed Wheeler on a couple of pitches there but we couldn't take advantage. Very inconsistent strike zone so far.

[NinersSBChamps]

lol way to pitch

[AerchAngel]

66-44 when JHey leadoff and what did our idiot manager do, put the worst hitter on our team as lead off for most of the year.

[NinersSBChamps]

Gosselin with a great bunt.

[Julio3000]

Let's cash these in.

[NinersSBChamps]

At least they got the run back.

[NinersSBChamps]

This team needs every break possible at this point.

[Garmel]

Gosselin and La Stella need to play every single day.

[NinersSBChamps]

Anyone else a pretty big fan of Lagares? It's too bad he's on the Mets because I really like him.

[USMA76]

Anyone else a pretty big fan of Lagares? It's too bad he's on the Mets because I really like him.

Yep

[cajunrevenge]

Anyone else a pretty big fan of Lagares? It's too bad he's on the Mets because I really like him.

Yes

[tvsportscaster]

Gosselin and La Stella need to play every single day.

Joe Simpson now on board with me about playing Gosselin in LF, JHey in CF, and JUpton in RF. That needs to happen like tomorrow. Gosselin brings too much to the table.

[NinersSBChamps]

Gosselin brings too much to the table.

Harang and Laird take care of that each night.

[Julio3000]

Only 4 hits but we've got his pitch count up pretty high.

[USMA76]

Stop me if you have heard this before but the Braves hit into an inning ending double play...

[NinersSBChamps]

Only 4 hits but we've got his pitch count up pretty high.

Yes and this bullpen doesn't strike any fear.

[Garmel]

Julio looks like he's hurt.

[Julio3000]

Julio looks like he's hurt.

No, just drunk.

Oh, the other Julio.

[USMA76]

Is it just me or does Lucas Duda look like Brian McCann? Maybe it's just the beard.

[jsebe10]

Is it just me or does Lucas Duda look like Brian McCann? Maybe it's just the beard.

We covered that on the Scout board before Pattio ruined the board and subsequently disappeared in disgrace and chained himself to his radiator in his basement.

[jsebe10]

Swing the bat you tool.

[NinersSBChamps]

I want the Braves to win always, but I am rooting hard for BJ to fall below .200

[jsebe10]

Hopefully Jason breaks his 4-3 streak he's got going right now.

[jsebe10]

Hopefully Jason breaks his 4-3 streak he's got going right now.

Nevermind.

[NinersSBChamps]

I love watching Simmons load up and fire a 120MM blast across the diamond.

[Julio3000]

D'Arnaud 0-3. Wonders never cease.

Three Musketeers-sounding mother****er.

[BremanFan88]

Chip would love to see walks banned. I wish Tom Hart was in the booth more. At least he understands the value of getting on base.

[The Chosen One]

Joe's rant against taking pitches made absolutely no sense.

[BremanFan88]

Joe's rant against taking pitches made absolutely no sense.

You can look at his playing career and see how that went for him.

[Julio3000]

Joe's rant against taking pitches made absolutely no sense.

What did he say?

[NinersSBChamps]

Julio was really dull tonight. Hope the bullpen can pick him up though.

[USMA76]

Chip says, "Wheeler's win streak in serious jeopardy here." I guess he hasn't watched the Braves play in 2014.

[keithlaw]

Julio was really dull tonight. Hope the bullpen can pick him up though.

He just needs a few more beers and he'll be back to normal.

[Julio3000]

And Carp doesn't play it koi with the bottom of the Mets' order.

/fake Chip

[Julio3000]

Buddy Carlyle. Damn.

[NinersSBChamps]

Good to see Buddy is back in bigs.

[The Chosen One]

What did he say?

Taking pitches (and teaching kids to take pitches) is useless and shouldn't be encouraged. Basically said that batting average was important and that it makes a good leadoff many. Seems to go against taking pitches and wants guys to swing and put the ball in play. Talked about strikeouts etc.

[NinersSBChamps]

Walden blowing it. Amazing Kimbrel isn't up yet.

[jason27nc]

Taking pitches (and teaching kids to take pitches) is useless and shouldn't be encouraged. Basically said that batting average was important and that it makes a good leadoff many. Seems to go against taking pitches and wants guys to swing and put the ball in play. Talked about strikeouts etc.

The problem I have with taking pitches is when they do it with two strikes on them. So another words they are caught looking a lot. I hate that. Your best hitters often foul off the pitches and stays alive until they can find one that they can do something with.

[Julio3000]

Taking pitches (and teaching kids to take pitches) is useless and shouldn't be encouraged. Basically said that batting average was important and that it makes a good leadoff many. Seems to go against taking pitches and wants guys to swing and put the ball in play. Talked about strikeouts etc.

Genius.

[CrimsonCowboy]

SIMMONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NinersSBChamps]

Holy **** Simba

[jason27nc]

Walden blowing it. Amazing Kimbrel isn't up yet.

Not really. You know who the manager is.

[Lville21]

Walden owes Simmons a dinner.

[AerchAngel]

wow.. no words could do justice on that play. Play of the year for an infielder perhaps?

[NinersSBChamps]

Simmons bailed out Fredi for being himself.

[Mrs. Meta]

How many loads were blown just now? :Alone:

[jason27nc]

Simmons bailed out Fredi for being himself.

Exactly.

[CrimsonCowboy]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/3afae51f8fcd2e19ce1dc4fbd6f8ecf4/tumblr_mqt1ynFWEt1rrlda6o1_500.jpg

[CrimsonCowboy]

Lagares is annoying

[BremanFan88]

Defense isn't as important as hitting.

[MadduxFanII]

Is there anything Lagares doesn't catch?

[Garmel]

Needless to say BJ would not have gotten to the ball Lagares just caught.

[bravesnumberone]

Here we go. Had him 0-2, wouldn't go after him, got it to 3-2 and then gives up a hit.

[bravesnumberone]

Lol incredible. Can't get these scrubs out.

[Mrs. Meta]

Craig having some incontinence on the mound here.

[holden]

Ball 4 was a strike.. but strike 2 wasn't.

[NinersSBChamps]

Kimbrel definitely needs to be talked about as a trade piece this off season. He isn't half the pitcher he was last season. He isn't worth the money.

[bravesnumberone]

It was inside. Trying to be cute and now he's got us in a position to lose this game.

[bravesnumberone]

Good play, Gosselin. Bet CJ throws that to first.

[Lville21]

Very surprised Terry Collins didn't come out and try to get that reviewed (even though it was clean) considering that's what he does best vs. Atlanta.

[bravesnumberone]

****ING GO AFTER HIM

[USMA76]

Kimbrel is all over the place.

[CrimsonCowboy]

http://i.imgur.com/P6x0U.gif

[bravesnumberone]

Thanks. Finally.

[NinersSBChamps]

Wow I fully expected Justin to Justin that ball again.

[jason27nc]

Kimbrel definitely needs to be talked about as a trade piece this off season. He isn't half the pitcher he was last season. He isn't worth the money.

I disagree with this. Just because he is a little rusty tonight that does not make him a bad pitcher.

[Garmel]

Well, we **** that one out.

[jason27nc]

The Nats are trailing the Phillies now.

[NinersSBChamps]

I disagree with this. Just because he is a little rusty tonight that does not make him a bad pitcher.

Oh I am not saying he's a bad pitcher at all. He's still one of the best closers in the game. He has been spotty all year long. When he's on, he lights out. However he's been in a situations more often this season than ever before.

I am not advocating he be traded, but if a team called and asked Wren definitely should hear what they say.

[bravesnumberone]

I only trade Kimbrel for surefire serious MLB talent that can step in from day one and impact this team significantly. Even if he has lost a step this season, he's right up there at the top. I'm not giving him away for prospects, no matter how great they are considered.

[jason27nc]

Oh I am not saying he's a bad pitcher at all. He's still one of the best closers in the game. He has been spotty all year long. When he's on, he lights out. However he's been in a situations more often this season than ever before.

I am not advocating he be traded, but if a team called and asked Wren definitely should hear what they say.

If you notice the nights he has walks are coming off multiple days off. He has only 10 appearances in the last month. Also this was only his 2nd appearance in the last 11 days.


Date Opp. Score Dec IP H R ER HR BB K W L SV BS HLD IP ERA
Aug 27 @NYM W 3-2 SV 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 3 39 5 0 52.0 1.73
Aug 22 @Cin W 3-1 SV 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 3 38 4 0 51.0 1.76
Aug 17 Oak W 4-3 SV 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 3 37 4 0 50.0 1.80
Aug 16 Oak W 4-3 SV 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 3 36 4 0 49.0 1.84
Aug 13 LAD W 3-2 SV 1.0 2 0 0 0 1 1 0 3 35 4 0 48.0 1.88
Aug 10 Was W 3-1 SV 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 34 4 0 47.0 1.91
Aug 9 Was L 1-4 - 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 33 4 0 46.0 1.96
Aug 8 Was W 7-6 SV 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 3 33 4 0 45.0 2.00
Aug 2 @SD L 2-3 L 1.1 2 1 1 0 3 1 0 3 32 4 0 44.0 2.05
Jul 28 SD W 2-0 SV 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 2 32 4 0 42.2 1.90

[bravesnumberone]

Well, per Brian Jordan, Simmons has made it into Derek Jeter territory.

Lulz. I like Jeter, but I've seen Simmons make several dozen plays as good as any Jeter has made.

[jimsnores]

Well, per Brian Jordan, Simmons has made it into Derek Jeter territory.

Lulz. I like Jeter, but I've seen Simmons make several dozen plays as good as any Jeter has made.

I laughed when he said that. Jeter wouldn't have even attempted the throw and probably wouldn't have fielded the ball. Maybe he would have gotten to it in his heyday. Even then, no way he throws the guy out. He was pretty good at making similar looking plays, but he often did the jump throw on balls Simba plants and throws ropes on.

[Heyward]

The Nats are trailing the Phillies now.

It's WC or bust.

We are not catching the Nats.

Repeat after me.

[braves31win]

It's WC or bust.

We are not catching the Nats.

Repeat after me.

They play their next 6 on the road against Seattle and LA after a 3 game sweep by Philly. Perfect time for them to hit the skids against Felix, Kershaw, Iwakuma. IF we play okay we could make up 2 games or so in that span (I'm hoping for 6 ;) ).

We still have 6 games head-to-head as well so you never know.

[bravesnumberone]

If they do stumble against the Mariners and Dodgers, and we actually play up to our damn capability and beat up on teams worse than us, we can get right back in it quickly.

[jason27nc]

It's WC or bust.

We are not catching the Nats.

Repeat after me.

I will do that as soon as you repeat after me,


Fredi needs to be fired. :tchop:

[Heyward]

I will do that as soon as you repeat after me,


Fredi needs to be fired. :tchop:

I dont think the manager makes a big deal in the grand scheme of things, so sure why not.

FIRE FREDI NOW!!!!!!!!!!

[bravesnumberone]

:fredi:

[Heyward]

They play their next 6 on the road against Seattle and LA after a 3 game sweep by Philly. Perfect time for them to hit the skids against Felix, Kershaw, Iwakuma. IF we play okay we could make up 2 games or so in that span (I'm hoping for 6 ;) ).

We still have 6 games head-to-head as well so you never know.

I mean, technically not impossible but they'd have to lose 5 of 6 and we'd have to hit a hot streak to gain ground.

Guess we'll see, still banking on WC or bust.

[UNCBlue012]

I didn't see anything until late, but Simmons man. His defense is amazing. If he could hit anywhere close to .280 with 10-15 homer power and a decent OBP, he'd be the best SS in baseball and it's not even close. Yes, over even Tulo.

[CyYoung31]

Simmons was in left field when he got that ball...

[The Chosen One]

Simmons pulled a Jeter. He knew darn well he didn't have to go to the outfield and do the Jeter reverse jump and throw to get the guy out. He's losing range out there, and may only win a gold glove based on popularity like Jeter.

[Dalyn]

I have a couple things to say about trading Kimbrel. A picture is worth a thousand words, so I'll save us all some time.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa309/njhancock/Braves/2005-DanKolbKnocksOverTheWaterCoole.jpg

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/002/224/944/76112314_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75

[NinersSBChamps]

I have a couple things to say about trading Kimbrel. A picture is worth a thousand words, so I'll save us all some time.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa309/njhancock/Braves/2005-DanKolbKnocksOverTheWaterCoole.jpg

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/002/224/944/76112314_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75

All I am saying is that there would be internal options to take over the closer role. If Wren were able to get back a decent package I think they should consider it.

Anyway it won't happen because a top player at a position doesn't get traded very often.

[zitothebrave]

Kimbrel definitely needs to be talked about as a trade piece this off season. He isn't half the pitcher he was last season. He isn't worth the money.

LMAO

Kimbrel is basically equal to where he was last year by rate stats.

[NinersSBChamps]

LMAO

Kimbrel is basically equal to where he was last year by rate stats.

You aren't watching the games then. He isn't nearly as dominant as he was last year. He's been allowing base runners quite a bit this season.

[Enscheff]

You aren't watching the games then. He isn't nearly as dominant as he was last year. He's been allowing base runners quite a bit this season.

Kimbrel's "problem" this year is that his BB/9 has spiked to 4.2, while is was 2.0 and 2.7 in prior years. He's actually striking guys out at a higher rate and giving up hits at a lower rate this year, so he is still plenty dominant.

I don't think 60 IP from any closer is worth what the elite ones make, but Kimbrel's contract is pretty far down the list of problems for this organization.

[thewupk]

You aren't watching the games then. He isn't nearly as dominant as he was last year. He's been allowing base runners quite a bit this season.

Yeah. 0.881 WHIP last year compared to 0.924 this year. So much more runners then last year. I guess things like K rate and his HR rate dropping this year don't mean anything but giving up 1 more base runner every 18 innings does.