GDT 7/26/13: Cardinals (Wainwright) @ Braves (Minor) 7:30 PM

[NYCBrave]

Braves:


1. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
2. Jason Heyward (L) RF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Evan Gattis (R) LF
5. Brian McCann (L) C
6. Dan Uggla (R) 2B
7. Chris Johnson (R) 3B
8. Jose Constanza (L) CF
9. Mike Minor (R) P

Cardinals:


1. Matt Carpenter (L) 2B
2. Shane Robinson (R) CF
3. Carlos Beltran (S) RF
4. Allen Craig (R) LF
5. Yadier Molina (R) C
6. David Freese (R) 3B
7. Matt Adams (L) 1B
8. Pete Kozma (R) SS
9. Adam Wainwright (R) P

[The Chosen One]

I want Fredi to remove Justin from the 3rd spot. Move Freeman and McCann up in the order.

[The Chosen One]

Mets are up 5-0 on the Gnats in the early game.:emot-siren.gif.17:

[jpx7]

Sun comes up; Simmons leads off; sun goes down.

Also known as: death, taxes, and pop-ups.

[Hulavol]

Gotta love this lineup!

[The Chosen One]

The homeruns must've given Fredi confidence that Simmons could lead off.

I must say, I'm rather impressed he didn't put Constanza as leadoff. Constanza leading off would be pure Bobby. Although him sticking with Simmons is pure Bobby also.

[NYCBrave]

Mets are up 5-0 on the Gnats in the early game.:emot-siren.gif.17:

Is anyone concerned about the Mets? Sports Talk Radio here in NY are talking about how they are only 8 back in the loss column.

[Dalyn]

The homeruns must've given Fredi confidence that Simmons could lead off.

I must say, I'm rather impressed he didn't put Constanza as leadoff. Constanza leading off would be pure Bobby. Although him sticking with Simmons is pure Bobby also.

Constanza, maybe; Simmons, absolutely not. That would be akin to Bobby running Belliard out there day after day.

[The Chosen One]

Constanza, maybe; Simmons, absolutely not. That would be akin to Bobby running Belliard out there day after day.

Ehhh that's kind of pushing it.

Belliard had absolutely no power potential.

Simmons can be a homerun threat.

[nsacpi]

Belliard was a HR threat.

[Dalyn]

Ehhh that's kind of pushing it.

Belliard had absolutely no power potential.

Simmons can be a homerun threat.

Close enough. :)

Otis Nixon
Otis Nixon
Otis Nixon
Roberto Kelly
Marquis Grissom
Marquis Grissom
Kenny Lofton
Walt Weiss
Gerald Williams
Rafael Furcal
Rafael Furcal
Rafael Furcal
Rafael Furcal
Rafael Furcal
Rafael Furcal
Marcus Giles
Kelly Johnson
Gregor Blanco
Nate McLouth
Martin Prado/Omar Infante

Cox has a pretty decent history with leadoff hitters.

Fredi:

Martin Prado/Jordan Schafer/Michael Bourn
Michael Bourn
Andrelton Simmons

2/3 years he stuck with trash (Schafer and Simmons) until Wren took it out of his hands (acquired Bourn and traded away Schafer). And he stuck with Bourn and Prado through terrible ends to 2011 (and the September collapse).

[Dalyn]

But enough of that. Let's win! :tchop:

[ChapelHillMatt]

I'm just glad the order of a lineup doesn't matter, or at least that's what people used to tell me.

[BRule]

Is anyone concerned about the Mets? Sports Talk Radio here in NY are talking about how they are only 8 back in the loss column.

This year? Hell no

In the coming years? Absolutely, they are going to have one of the best rotations in baseball and have all of, like, 20 mil on the books for next year.

[BRule]

Also....I set the over/under on Wainwright K's at 12

[Tapate50]

Nats got pounded 11-0

[Heyward]

Is anyone concerned about the Mets? Sports Talk Radio here in NY are talking about how they are only 8 back in the loss column.

This year, nah.

If they can add some bats this winter they will be really really good in the coming years.

They have a ton of good young arms.

Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Montero, Snydergaurd, Gee, Mejia, etc.

Can use a couple to get a bat.

Though not every pitcher pans out.

Wouldn't shock me if they shop Wheeler.

[Heyward]

Also....I set the over/under on Wainwright K's at 12

Under.

[The Chosen One]

Is anyone concerned about the Mets? Sports Talk Radio here in NY are talking about how they are only 8 back in the loss column.

They are the Mets.

lol

[Heyward]

Minor can give up at most 2 runs.

Hell that might be pushing it with Waino pitching.

No pressure.

[Nerfherders]

I'm not really afraid of the Mets right now, but they are starting to creep up. They've certainly been the best team in the NL east the last few weeks, which isn't saying much. 9.5 games back, 1 game back of the Nats. 22-14 in their last 36, 13-8 in July.

[Dalyn]

I'm not really afraid of the Mets right now, but they are starting to creep up. They've certainly been the best team in the NL east the last few weeks, which isn't saying much. 9.5 games back, 1 game back of the Nats. 22-14 in their last 36, 13-8 in July.


I'm not worried about those creepers. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0/)

[jpx7]

Also....I set the over/under on Wainwright K's at 12

Under.

[thethe]

I'm not worried about those creepers. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0/)

Second best video ever.

Jizz in my pants take the cake!

[Dalyn]

Second best video ever.

Jizz in my pants take the cake!


THIS is the best video ever.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbW9JqM7vho

[Nerfherders]

Looks like all games of this series will be nationally televised. It's been awhile since we've had that much coverage.

[Dalyn]

Looks like all games of this series will be nationally televised. It's been awhile since we've had that much coverage.

I still have no pants on. Rules are rules.

[The Chosen One]

I still have no pants on. Rules are rules.
:cooter:

[Bye Week]

Braves win 5-2.

[Dalyn]

Braves win 5-2.

Spoiler alert next time, please. Thanks.

[Heyward]

Cards win 3-1.

[Julio3000]

**** the Cardinals.

[Dalyn]

**** the Cardinals.

Spoiler alert next time, please. Thanks.

[stpeteirish]

Looks like all games of this series will be nationally televised. It's been awhile since we've had that much coverage.

don't think Sat's game is national. Other two are.

[stpeteirish]

don't care if we have 12 K's if we score some runs. Some runs early would be especially nice.

[NinersSBChamps]

Also....I set the over/under on Wainwright K's at 12

I take 12.

[NinersSBChamps]

don't think Sat's game is national. Other two are.

I don't think any FOX games are national. They do like six regional games a week, so if you aren't in the market of your team you get screwed.

[NinersSBChamps]

Vasgersian (sp) just made my blood boil!

[NinersSBChamps]

Really sucks that Hudson could be finished playing baseball for his career.

[Dalyn]

Minor needs a 5-pitch first. 2-1-2

[Dalyn]

Can't pitch behind all game. Need to correct that quickly.

[Dalyn]

Corrected. :YDS:

[NinersSBChamps]

Sit down Beltran.

[weso1]

That was a very pleasant top half of the first. I'm pleased with the outcome.

[parkvadawg]

Great start

[NinersSBChamps]

That was a very pleasant top half of the first. I'm pleased with the outcome.
So, Mike Minor pleases you?

[Dalyn]

Simmons needs to take six or seven here.

[parkvadawg]

don't care if we have 12 K's if we score some runs. Some runs early would be especially nice.

So you are finally coming around? :)

[Dalyn]

Terrible at-bat.

[NinersSBChamps]

1 strikeout in an inning is success.

[weso1]

The bottom half of the first was very unpleasant. It did not please me.

[NinersSBChamps]

That was an infield fly Simba. Next time don't catch it.

[bravesnumberone]

Oh look, another home run given up. And absolutely pathetic that half the park is Cardinal fans.

[Heyward]

Game?

[NinersSBChamps]

Oh look, another home run given up. And absolutely pathetic that half the park is Cardinal fans.
But half is Braves fans.

[weso1]

A one run deficit vs Wainwright feels like a 3 run deficit.

[NinersSBChamps]

I have a feeling Minor is gonna give up at least one more home run.

[Heyward]

Thought that was gone.

[NinersSBChamps]

lol on MLBN Matt Vasgersian just said Matt Adams looked like a beer league softball guy.

[seanyates]

This feels like a playoff game to me, so it's fitting that the Braves are losing early.

[weso1]

I have a feeling Minor is gonna give up at least one more home run.

Maybe it's just gas.

[Heyward]

Oh look, another home run given up. And absolutely pathetic that half the park is Cardinal fans.

So you were expecting Mike to shutout arguably the best offense in baseball?

[NinersSBChamps]

Nice job Mac. Now book em Dano!

[Heyward]

Needed that to go out, doubt Mac or Jose get him in.

[NinersSBChamps]

Maybe it's just gas.

I did make poop four times today during an 8 hour sjoft.

[thethe]

Uggla could do that so much more if he watned to.

[bravesnumberone]

Double play, strikeout on low pitch or hit coming?

[weso1]

I did make poop four times today during an 8 hour sjoft.

That's what I call a good day.

[Heyward]

Think CJ K's here...

[weso1]

Double play, strikeout on low pitch or hit coming?

Catcher's interference

[Heyward]

Double play, strikeout on low pitch or hit coming?

Strikeout.

[zitothebrave]

uggla suuuuure does stink.

[Heyward]

Incoming curve, whiff, sigh.

[bravesnumberone]

Choice three it is.

[Dalyn]

:rock:

[Heyward]

Good job CJ.

[weso1]

Big hit right there by CJ.

[weso1]

Bunt em over for Mike Jose.

[zitothebrave]

Constanza needs to get a hit here.

[zitothebrave]

We need a miracle from Minor.

[thethe]

This is blowing me away right now.

[Dalyn]

Minor>Simmons

[thethe]

We need a miracle from Minor.

There you go!

[Heyward]

Mike!

[weso1]

Told you... Should've bunted them over for Mike.

[parkvadawg]

Winning and showing the killer instinct.

[bravesnumberone]

We need a miracle from Minor.

Got eeeeeeem

[zitothebrave]

WOOOOO MINOR!!

[thethe]

Time to put Minor in RF for that bum!

[zitothebrave]

Bonus points for clearing the Simmons as well.

[weso1]

Constanza gets down the first base line like a poop exiting niner's sphincter.

[parkvadawg]

uggla suuuuure does stink.

Lol some didn't give up on him.

[bravesnumberone]

Let's see Uggla keep coming through in those situations for a while before we get too far ahead of ourselves.

[Heyward]

Lol some didn't give up on him.

He's not great but the hate he gets is unreal.

Leads the team in walks, homers, and top 3-4 in RBI's.

People act like he's the worst player in baseball.

[bravesnumberone]

Proceeds to give up leadoff double...

[Heyward]

Of all people, Kozma, smh.

[parkvadawg]

He's not great but the hate he gets is unreal.

Leads the team in walks, homers, and top 3-4 in RBI's.

People act like he's the worst player in baseball.

That really was my point. Just not well articulated.

[Julio3000]

Uggla's ok. Constanza, on the other hand, is horrible.

[Heyward]

One more Mike.

[bravesnumberone]

Uggla for the most part is doing his job. Hitting homers, scoring runs, walking. He's failed in a lot of big situations, but so has most of the rest of the team.

[thethe]

Nats getting blanked by Harvey (best pitcher in baseball). Braves can gain more ground tonight.

[AerchAngel]

Uggla for the most part is doing his job. Hitting homers, scoring runs, walking. He's failed in a lot of big situations, but so has most of the rest of the team.

It seems like he is coming around and that is a good thing. If this teams hits like they should we can be scary.

[jgriff3029]

I did make poop four times today during an 8 hour sjoft.

You sir are my hero. :rock:

[Heyward]

Nats getting blanked by Harvey (best pitcher in baseball). Braves can gain more ground tonight.

Philly is winning so....

[bravesnumberone]

Way to work, Mike. Let's add some more.

[weso1]

Great job by Minor to get out of it.

[zitothebrave]

Let's see Uggla keep coming through in those situations for a while before we get too far ahead of ourselves.

Ugla's last 40 games he's produced a line of .236/.337/.529

[AerchAngel]

Ugla's last 40 games he's produced a line of .236/.337/.529

seriously the avg look bad but the other two numbers, no way, they are awesome.

[Garmel]

Ugla's last 40 games he's produced a line of .236/.337/.529

Pretty close to his career averages.

[Heyward]

Damn that was Ball 4.

[stpeteirish]

Pretty close to his career averages.

probably due to the contacts. Somebody should have stuck them in the Qwl's eyes while it was asleep instead of waiting till June to put them in.

[Dalyn]

Made Freeman look silly.

[Dalyn]

Roasted.

[Heyward]

Jesus Gattis killed that ball.

[zitothebrave]

seriously the avg look bad but the other two numbers, no way, they are awesome.

Uggla pretty much never hits for average.

[Dalyn]

Jesus Gattis might score on a double here.

[thethe]

Damn, Mac crushed that one.

[parkvadawg]

Lord thought that was gone

[Heyward]

Mac just got under that.

[weso1]

I thought he got that one out of here. Just a bit more elevation and it's gone.

[thethe]

Jesus Gattis might score on a double here.

Gattis has average speed. He isn't a sloth out there.

[zitothebrave]

Damn more lineouts. The Braves suck at luck.

[thethe]

Mac just got under that.

No, he hit it too square. If he got just a little more under it it would have been a homer.

[nsacpi]

I like Freeman, Gattis, McCann hitting 3-4-5

[thethe]

I like Freeman, Gattis, McCann hitting 3-4-5

If Justin/Heyward can just figure something out we would be nasty.

[parkvadawg]

Let's get it boys! I'm feeling the bottom of the order coming through

[Dalyn]

Gattis has average speed. He isn't a sloth out there.

If he can walk on water, he can run on anything.

[sturg33]

Mike Minor is a boss

[Heyward]

Nats Mets tied through 5.

[Dalyn]

Nasty pitch.

[Heyward]

Wainwrights curve is so nasty.

[sturg33]

Wasn't it AA who went on and on and on about how Wainwright was so overrated?

[Heyward]

Wasn't it AA who went on and on and on about how Wainwright was so overrated?

More so he's not worth the contract he signed which is looking more and more like a bargain.

[bravesnumberone]

WTF Jose?

[Dalyn]

That was a strike. Should've licked the plate.

[Heyward]

Waino is so good.

Damn that trade pisses me off more than the Tex trade.

[Dalyn]

AA always ****s on Aces. Makes playing poker with him damn irritating.

[Heyward]

JHey!

[Gary82]

JHey!

TRADE HIM!

[weso1]

Routine play from Heyward there.

[datdude12]

Heyward is so good defnsively.

[weso1]

Matt Vasectomy just said Fredi has done a magnificent job. Board's thought on that?

[Gary82]

Matt Vasectomy just said Fredi has done a magnificent job. Board's thought on that?

Fernando Tatis? What the **** is that???

[AerchAngel]

AA always ****s on Aces. Makes playing poker with him damn irritating.

He struck out our players, even rookies do that to our team <sigh>.

I shi*t on aces because I don't believe in paying starters 750k a start while the fielders play 150+ games a year and don't and they have much more bearing on winning and losing than a pitcher who makes 35 starts a year and they can't guarantee you 30 wins. If they guarantee 30 wins, than I wouldn't have a problem with it.

[Heyward]

Matt Vasectomy just said Fredi has done a magnificent job. Board's thought on that?

Wouldn't go that far but far better than what some of the idiots say on here's as if he's the worst manager in baseball.

[AerchAngel]

Another thing, we had 3 aces on our staff and what did we win, you got it 1 WS. So yes because of them is why I sour on paying aces when they don't come through when we need them.

[weso1]

Another thing, we had 3 aces on our staff and what did we win, you got it 1 WS. So yes because of them is why I sour on paying aces when they don't come through when we need them.

Do you frown on paying HOF 3B as well since we only got one WS with him?

[CyYoung31]

Fernando Tatis? What the **** is that???

He also did the drunk Sutcliffe interview, and pointed out the random black guy who looked just like Donovan McNabb to the world.

[Gary82]

He also did the drunk Sutcliffe interview, and pointed out the random black guy who looked just like Donovan McNabb to the world.

LOL. Yeah. Good times.

[bravesnumberone]

:banana:

[Heyward]

Heyward!!!!!

[AerchAngel]

Heyward doesn't love baseball.

[zitothebrave]

Suck it thethe:Bunchie1:

[Dalyn]

Well. :suprise:

[weso1]

Trade him for Peavy while his value is still high.

[AerchAngel]

Do you frown on paying HOF 3B as well since we only got one WS with him?

he could have gotten more elsewhere, think about it.

[Julio3000]

DLB.

[Gary82]

Heyward hated that baseball all the way over the centerfield wall.

[bravesnumberone]

As previously mentioned, Heyward needs to start doing a lot more of that.

[thethe]

Suck it thethe:Bunchie1:

I don't get it. I like heyward. I'm not a big fan of Justin

[CyYoung31]

Does Heyward love baseball today?

[Heyward]

Not a good game fr FF so far.

[Dalyn]

He struck out our players, even rookies do that to our team <sigh>.

I shi*t on aces because I don't believe in paying starters 750k a start while the fielders play 150+ games a year and don't and they have much more bearing on winning and losing than a pitcher who makes 35 starts a year and they can't guarantee you 30 wins. If they guarantee 30 wins, than I wouldn't have a problem with it.

:Alone:

That's why we call 4 Aces the poo-poo platter now.

[parkvadawg]

Nice hold em Mike!!

[Gary82]

He also did the drunk Sutcliffe interview, and pointed out the random black guy who looked just like Donovan McNabb to the world.

For your listening pleasure


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXOUl2nhujM

[AerchAngel]

Getting worried about Freeman and his k's. It seems he got BJ cooties.

[zitothebrave]

I don't get it. I like heyward. I'm not a big fan of Justin

I'm just playing around.

[weso1]

Not a good game fr FF so far.

Is it time to start questioning whether or not he loves baseball?

[Gary82]

Top of the 8th in Detroit, where the Phillies are down by one. :banana:

[Heyward]

I don't get it. I like heyward. I'm not a big fan of Justin

Why don't you like Justin?

[AerchAngel]

:Alone:

That's why we call 4 Aces the poo-poo platter now.

exactly. Lowe shown us that paying an ace that amount of money can screw you.

Yankees are finding that out with CC. You see his record and stats for a what 20+ mil a year pitcher, yikes!!!

[Heyward]

Is it time to start questioning whether or not he loves baseball?

He doesn't love baseball either.

[Dalyn]

Is it time to start questioning whether or not he loves baseball?

I am pretty sure he loves Dan Uggla. Does that count (either way)?

[BremanFan88]

I don't get it. I like heyward. I'm not a big fan of Justin

We all know they look the same to you.......

[Dalyn]

exactly. Lowe shown us that paying an ace that amount of money can screw you.

Yankees are finding that out with CC. You see his record and stats for a what 20+ mil a year pitcher, yikes!!!

Lowe never was an Ace; but your point still stands. I don't agree with the playoff portion of it, but I do think Lee & Friends are making more than they are worth.

[Bdawg2309]

It's not like the giants pitchers had playoff experience in 2010

[Dalyn]

Nice piece of hitting. Yikes.

[Heyward]

Great piece of hitting by Carpenter.

[AerchAngel]

Lowe never was an Ace; but your point still stands. I don't agree with the playoff portion of it, but I do think Lee & Friends are making more than they are worth.


yeah, but they still dog me on not wanting to pay a pitcher 20+ mil a year when they can't guarantee 25 wins for the amount we are paying them. We had 3 aces and only won 1 world series while we see teams with 2's as aces win multiples. I don't get it.

[Dalyn]

Just walk him.

[Dalyn]

yeah, but they still dog me on not wanting to pay a pitcher 20+ mil a year when they can't guarantee 25 wins for the amount we are paying them. We had 3 aces and only won 1 world series while we see teams with 2's as aces win multiples. I don't get it.


Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz had very little to do with us not winning in the playoffs. And none of them were overpaid.

[Heyward]

Just walk him.

Craig leads the league with RiSP....

[Dalyn]

Nice! Bad at-bat there.

[Heyward]

Good job.

[zitothebrave]

Mike Minor is a beast.

[Heyward]

yeah, but they still dog me on not wanting to pay a pitcher 20+ mil a year when they can't guarantee 25 wins for the amount we are paying them. We had 3 aces and only won 1 world series while we see teams with 2's as aces win multiples. I don't get it.

So you'd rather have good but not elite pitching or not at least one ace and a great offense?

With runs at a premium in the postseason, you need that ace.

[AerchAngel]

So you'd rather have good but not elite pitching or not at least one ace and a great offense?

With runs at a premium in the postseason, you need that ace.

and they give up 1 run and lose, what then?

[AerchAngel]

Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz had very little to do with us not winning in the playoffs. And none of them were overpaid.

you are correct. Spending 1/5 of your payroll on a pitcher that gives up one or two runs and lose 3 -2, gets you where?

Nothing.

[Heyward]

and they give up 1 run and lose, what then?

Give credit to the other team?

[Heyward]

1-1 through 7 in DC.

[Dalyn]

you are correct. Spending 1/5 of your payroll on a pitcher that gives up one or two runs and lose 3 -2, gets you where?

Nothing.

I wouldn't say nothing. You can be sure that 90% of these guys make more money for their team than they cost. Still don't like it, especially with a tight payroll, but...

[sturg33]

AA, I believe we had a bet that Waino wouldn't finish in the top whatever in cy young award... You were dogging him as overrated.

[BlackwaterPark]

So I heard Gattis about killed Wainwright with a liner earlier in the game

[parkvadawg]

Walk for Gatticus!

[AerchAngel]

I love you my brother, because you understand the big picture.

If Wainright was our ace and he pitched against us and this was the deciding game and you paid him 25 mil, would you not be upset considering how our team is?

[AerchAngel]

AA, I believe we had a bet that Waino wouldn't finish in the top whatever in cy young award... You were dogging him as overrated.

is he winning right now against our putrid hitting?

[CrimsonCowboy]

Kim Hudson ‏@kimberlybhudson 1m
Watching/listening to Tim watch the Braves game and cheer for his teammates, heavily under the influence of pain meds, is entertaining.

[Heyward]

Damn Uggla.

[weso1]

Double play sux, but really good job by the Bravos to put Waino at over 100 pitches after 6 innings. Really a nice game by the Bravos vs Waino tonight.

[parkvadawg]

Double play sux, but really good job by the Bravos to put Waino at over 100 pitches after 6 innings. Really a nice game by the Bravos vs Waino tonight.

We have had a great approach all night save Fredito

[AerchAngel]

AA, I believe we had a bet that Waino wouldn't finish in the top whatever in cy young award... You were dogging him as overrated.

in getting a 20+ mil contract. I don't think any pitcher deserves 750k a start when they can't guarantee a win. That is economics. If I am going to pay you that much, I want results. It is the Libertarian way in my book.

[zitothebrave]

We have had a great approach all night save Fredito

At least he's taking pitches. Wainwright is a beast, having a bad day while someone like that is on the mound isn't fun I'm sure.

[BlackwaterPark]

Hahahaha


Kim Hudson ‏@kimberlybhudson 1m
Watching/listening to Tim watch the Braves game and cheer for his teammates, heavily under the influence of pain meds, is entertaining.

[thethe]

AA, I believe we had a bet that Waino wouldn't finish in the top whatever in cy young award... You were dogging him as overrated.

I made that bet.

[Dalyn]

Hope Gattis isn't hurt. If not, that is a dumb move.

[Heyward]

in getting a 20+ mil contract. I don't think any pitcher deserves 750k a start when they can't guarantee a win. That is economics. If I am going to pay you that much, I want results. It is the Libertarian way in my book.

W/L is the dumbest stat in baseball, I agree I don't think pitchers are worth it.

But like QB's that's the market so you gotta pony up when the time comes,

[Heyward]

Hope Gattis isn't hurt. If not, that is a dumb move.

Probably just a defensive switch.

[AerchAngel]

I made that bet.

yes you did and he won't be worth his contract this year or any year. I want 20 wins, sub 2.50 era and 220 k's.

Still not worth a 20 mil a year contract when you only play 35 games a year.

A 20 mil a year contract is 25 wins , 2.20 or lower ERA and 250 k's.

[AerchAngel]

W/L is the dumbest stat in baseball, I agree I don't think pitchers are worth it.

But like QB's that's the market so you gotta pony up when the time comes,

WE did with 3 of our pitchers that would have gotten 20 mil + a year in this economy now and we didn't do squat.

[Heyward]

Got a feeling Adams goes deep here..

[weso1]

Probably just a defensive switch.

thethe believes Gattis should be used as a defensive replacement.

[emk418]

Anyone still want to argue that Minor's not an ace?

[zitothebrave]

7 innings 5 K 0 BB only blemish for Minor was his homer.

[Dalyn]

Probably just a defensive switch.

A dumb one, if so. Basically burn a player if it goes into extras.

[Gary82]

Phillies lose.

[stpeteirish]

Got a feeling Adams goes deep here..

no problem, MM has been great tonight, but I think we have to turn it over to the pen now.

[Heyward]

One more MM or go to the pen?

[zitothebrave]

Anyone still want to argue that Minor's not an ace?

I don't think he's an ace yet, but he's showing why I had so much faith in him. Tall lefty with a 90+ MPH fastball and a plus change usually are very good.

[Bj1133]

That looked low

[Gary82]

I wouldn't say Minor is an ace in the truest sense of the word, but he's our number one guy.

[zitothebrave]

One more MM or go to the pen?

Go the pen, he doesn't have anything on the line, no point risking it. Minor is prone to the long ball so no chances should be taken. get the opening win.

[Dalyn]

The thing you have to remember is that these guys aren't getting paid JUST for wins. Teams factor all of that in before making an offer.

[Heyward]

Go the pen, he doesn't have anything on the line, no point risking it. Minor is prone to the long ball so no chances should be taken. get the opening win.

I'd agree but I think he goes back out.

[sturg33]

yes you did and he won't be worth his contract this year or any year. I want 20 wins, sub 2.50 era and 220 k's.

Still not worth a 20 mil a year contract when you only play 35 games a year.

A 20 mil a year contract is 25 wins , 2.20 or lower ERA and 250 k's.


You do understand that Adam Wainwright pitched to 853 batters last year. Most players only see about 600 plate appearances per year. So a pitcher has many more "at bats" than a hitter does. Now, position players make up value in defense and base running, but the point still stands that starting pitchers impact hits/outs as much if not more than position players

[bravesnumberone]

He's not an ace yet, but definitely our No. 1

[Heyward]

Anyone still want to argue that Minor's not an ace?

Not quite yet but hes getting there.

[Dalyn]

Could hit with Reed right now and do a double-switch (instead of burning a player last inning). Dumb move if Gattis is not hurt.

[Heyward]

Yup Mike is done.

Come on Terd.

[bravesnumberone]

If we aren't hitting Heyward leadoff, would like to see CJ get a crack at it. Why not?

[Dalyn]

Huge.

[BlackwaterPark]

Ill take it! KNew right away that was going to be a bad throw

[CrimsonCowboy]

I'll take that!

[Heyward]

That helps.

[parkvadawg]

That's freaking right. Guess other teams besides us can make crappy plays huh?

[Bj1133]

Glad they scored but boy did that play bring back some bad memories

[Heyward]

If we aren't hitting Heyward leadoff, would like to see CJ get a crack at it. Why not?

I'd go JH/CJ 1-2 but won't happen.

[BlackwaterPark]

LOL at Beltrans lazy ass not backing up and not hustling at all

[bravesnumberone]

WHY, Fredi???

[Dalyn]

Another terrible call. WTF?

[Heyward]

Ugh why bunt.....

[parkvadawg]

That was just well...

[CrimsonCowboy]

I actually liked the call. Just a bad pitch to try and bunt.

[bravesnumberone]

We need a thread to keep up with these dumbass decisions.

[zitothebrave]

Simmons can't even bunt WTF

[parkvadawg]

I actually liked the call. Just a bad pitch to try and bunt.

I agree it was just Simba and a pop up

[Bj1133]

I think it was a good call to bunt, just got a terrible pitch to bunt

[parkvadawg]

We need a thread to keep up with these dumbass decisions.

Was a good decision poor execution

[Heyward]

Could of had another I guess...

[bravesnumberone]

Not with the top of the lineup. I guess Simmons would have popped up anyway had he been swinging.

[zitothebrave]

I agree it was just Simba and a pop up

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