View Full Version : Old #22 versus new #22 bet
NinersSBChamps
12-08-2014, 10:01 AM
thewupk and I are going to bet on which player has a higher on base percentage for the 2015 season. I am taking Nick Markakis and he is betting on Jason Heyward. I propose a 25.00 dollar straight up bet. Only qualifier is that both players reach a certain number of plate appearances.
thewupk
12-08-2014, 11:19 AM
I agree to this. 400 plate apperances sound fair?
NinersSBChamps
12-08-2014, 01:07 PM
Sure 400 plate appearances is the requirement. Higher on base percentage wins.
thewupk
12-08-2014, 01:38 PM
sounds good
Wouldn't bet against a player in his walk season. Jason is playing for a lot of money.
I still say it's a coin toss. Markakis I think is a lock for a 8.5% walk rate. Heyward for 10.0% walk rate. Will depend on batting average for both players. I think Markakis should hit .280 or higher. Heyward will need to hit .270.
gilesfan
12-09-2014, 09:24 AM
Heyward wins this easily
Julio3000
12-09-2014, 09:24 AM
Why not make the bet for $22?
Dalyn
12-09-2014, 10:35 AM
Why not make the bet for $22?
$22.22
Julio3000
12-09-2014, 10:42 AM
$22.22
thewupk won't settle for anything less than $23.32.
thewupk
12-09-2014, 06:39 PM
thewupk won't settle for anything less than $23.32.
Exactly.
NinersSBChamps
04-16-2015, 06:40 PM
I am getting out of this place. Bet is still on of course. I am a man of my word. SAV has me on facebook, so once the season is up he can act as the middle man and we can get in touch.
The Chosen One
04-16-2015, 06:45 PM
I am getting out of this place. Bet is still on of course. I am a man of my word. SAV has me on facebook, so once the season is up he can act as the middle man and we can get in touch.
Why are you leaving? Chopcountry.com is partial sponsor to your wedding.
Julio3000
04-16-2015, 06:55 PM
Don't leave. You're totally crushing this bet. Stay for the victory lap.
Don't let your legacy be like COGPK's or that dude from Auburn.
weso1
04-16-2015, 10:01 PM
I was enjoying niners' contrarian posts. Oh well. I assume he's just doing what I do every few months and he'll be back.
BRule
04-17-2015, 03:07 PM
I am getting out of this place. Bet is still on of course. I am a man of my word. SAV has me on facebook, so once the season is up he can act as the middle man and we can get in touch.
:FrediConfident:
thethe
04-17-2015, 08:49 PM
Surprisingly this bet looks pretty good so far.
CyYoung31
04-18-2015, 09:07 PM
Hope you come back Niners. Even though I disagree with roughly 98% of what you say, your posts still amuse me.
cajunrevenge
04-19-2015, 01:37 AM
How did I miss this thread when it started? I would have bet my house on Heywood in December but I am always hopelessly optimistic with elite hitting prospects.
gilesfan
05-11-2015, 01:46 PM
bump
Nick the Stick looking pretty good with 20 percent of the season already completed
NinersSBChamps
06-01-2015, 07:50 PM
Nick up nearly 80 points.
thewupk
06-03-2015, 09:50 AM
I'm not givng up hope yet but it's geting out of reach with a 1/3rd of the season done.
thethe
06-03-2015, 11:33 AM
Its not over for sure. Nick is not many things we need but he is consistent and that may be the reason he holds onto this lead.
thethe
06-10-2015, 07:24 PM
Man, this is not looking good for you thewupk.
NinersSBChamps
06-10-2015, 10:20 PM
Over 100 points now. I know Jason will get hot at some point.
weso1
06-11-2015, 10:49 PM
Over 100 points now. I know Jason will get hot at some point.
Brule said he had a good May.
NinersSBChamps
06-11-2015, 10:50 PM
Brule said he had a good May.
Well he's so intelligent. If he said it, it's truth.
thethe
06-12-2015, 02:54 PM
Brule said he had a good May.
Then BRule stopped posting. Strange....
Currently, Markakis has a .8 WAR advantage. Hart is pretty awesome that he found a way to trade Babe Ruth and still upgrade the position.
keithlaw
06-13-2015, 03:37 PM
Then BRule stopped posting. Strange....
Currently, Markakis has a .8 WAR advantage. Hart is pretty awesome that he found a way to trade Babe Ruth and still upgrade the position.
The 3 Johns managed to improve the major league club while freeing up $55 million and turning a bottom 5 farm system into a top 5 farm system in a single offseason.
NinersSBChamps
06-13-2015, 05:44 PM
Baseball America has them as the 15th ranked. Far cry from top 5. Although they were bottom 5 last season.
Runnin
06-15-2015, 01:32 AM
Heyward wins this easily
Rebump.
After 63 games, almost 40% of the season:
Heyward - .302
Markakis - .394
both trending upward.
thethe
06-15-2015, 05:27 AM
Rebump.
After 63 games, almost 40% of the season:
Heyward - .302
Markakis - .394
both trending upward.
I always feel Heyward is about to bust out and then he goes into a 2-3 game 0fer.
Runnin
06-15-2015, 08:33 AM
I always feel Heyward is about to bust out and then he goes into a 2-3 game 0fer.
I'm afraid I'm just the opposite. He will always struggle against any pitcher who can locate a decent fastball. Anywhere up or in will get him.
NinersSBChamps
06-24-2015, 08:33 PM
MMark22 is still up around 70 points. Jason is closing the gap a little.
Metaphysicist
06-25-2015, 08:18 PM
I have to believe that Markakis read this thread and that's why he decided to reinvent himself as slow Brett Butler.
gilesfan
06-26-2015, 08:56 AM
I have to believe that Markakis read this thread and that's why he decided to reinvent himself as slow Brett Butler.
Anything for his cut of the deal, which is around $2.50.
BRule
06-26-2015, 09:38 AM
Brule said he had a good May.
a 284 average and a 785 OPS isn't good? Weird
NinersSBChamps
07-04-2015, 06:34 PM
On July 4th. Heyward sits at 332 and Markakis 388
Heyward has been on a tear recently too. Definitely gonna continue to get close I think. On June 10th Nick was about 100 points up and in nearly a month Jason has cut that in half.
NinersSBChamps
07-19-2015, 11:34 AM
Today Jason is at .342 and the Stick is .375
Getting closer each week.
Heyward
07-19-2015, 10:39 PM
This wont end well for Nick.
Jason probably passes him by the end of the month.
thewupk
07-19-2015, 11:21 PM
This wont end well for Nick.
Jason probably passes him by the end of the month.
30 point gap with a little over 2 months to go is still sizable difference. But Heyward is on fire while Nick is scuffing
BRule
07-27-2015, 11:49 AM
WAR 2.5 vs 1.1
wRC+ 111 vs 105
wOBA 330 vs 323
ISO 145 vs 073
OPS 750 vs 728
TURBO
07-27-2015, 03:26 PM
WAR 2.5 vs 1.1
wRC+ 111 vs 105
wOBA 330 vs 323
ISO 145 vs 073
OPS 750 vs 728
I dont think anyone thought Nick was going to be a better overall player then Jason. If Jason would have signed same contract as Nick everybody would have been estatic.
NinersSBChamps
07-27-2015, 06:53 PM
Yes bring in irrelevant stats to this please.
weso1
08-01-2015, 01:52 PM
Nobody pulls for current Braves to suck more than Brule.
BRule
08-08-2015, 09:51 AM
Heyward up to a 3.4 WAR
NinersSBChamps
08-08-2015, 09:58 AM
Good thing the only thing matters is OBP.
thethe
08-08-2015, 08:17 PM
We are getting to a ponit where its going to be very difficult for Heyward to make up over 40 points of OBP. Its possible but its getting into the danger zone right now.
Heyward
08-08-2015, 10:03 PM
WAR 2.5 vs 1.1
wRC+ 111 vs 105
wOBA 330 vs 323
ISO 145 vs 073
OPS 750 vs 728
Umm no one said Nick > Jason, stay mad though.
Heyward
08-08-2015, 10:03 PM
Heyward up to a 3.4 WAR
Yeah and that has what to do with OBP?
Runnin
08-10-2015, 09:40 PM
Markakis has at least a 4.25 MAJOR (Makeup Above Jason Or Replacement)
gilesfan
08-19-2015, 11:30 AM
We are getting to a ponit where its going to be very difficult for Heyward to make up over 40 points of OBP. Its possible but its getting into the danger zone right now.
A little over a week later and that was almost cut in half.
thewupk
08-23-2015, 04:50 PM
365 to 349 as of this moment. Might be an interseting final 5 weeks.
NinersSBChamps
08-23-2015, 05:46 PM
Yeah it's gonna be close.
Heyward
08-31-2015, 10:00 PM
368 Markakis to Heyward 350 at the moment heading into September.
Gonna be close.
Runnin
09-01-2015, 01:53 AM
368 Markakis to Heyward 350 at the moment heading into September.
Gonna be close.
St. Louis will start resting Jason so he'll have full defensive range for the post season.
Heyward
09-07-2015, 03:41 PM
368 to 348 currently, Nick leading.
Runnin
09-10-2015, 02:16 AM
Markakis cruising to victory.
.374 to .349
The Chosen One
09-16-2015, 07:26 AM
.371 to .356 now
Markakis read this thread and wanted this to be one of the bright spots for Niners.
NinersSBChamps
09-16-2015, 08:48 AM
Think it will still become really close. Within 5 points.
Runnin
09-21-2015, 10:45 PM
Think it will still become really close. Within 5 points.
Good call.
NinersSBChamps
09-22-2015, 09:09 AM
Good call.
Sort of like how nobody here tonight Markakis had a shot to win this.
NinersSBChamps
09-29-2015, 07:22 PM
Nick the Stick!
NinersSBChamps
10-02-2015, 09:16 AM
Winner winner.
thewupk is a man of his word.
The Chosen One
10-02-2015, 10:11 AM
Just curious. Even though you won would you still take Markakis over Heyward for the next 5 years?
NinersSBChamps
10-02-2015, 11:53 AM
Just curious. Even though you won would you still take Markakis over Heyward for the next 5 years?
Don't think I have said I would take Markakis over Heyward at all and definitely not for the next five years.
But no I wouldn't.
thewupk
10-02-2015, 12:20 PM
Heyward gave it a good run but there was just too much to overcome with his slow start and Nick's hot start.
Runnin
10-03-2015, 01:05 AM
Heyward gave it a good run but there was just too much to overcome with his slow start and Nick's hot start.
Yep. Here it is by months:
- - - - - -Mark - - JHey
April___.446____.261
May___.339____.340
June___.395____.365
July___.321_____.387
Aug___.352_____.385
Sept___.387____.391
_____.370____.359----FINAL
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