CBB Thread

[elmonthc]

Should roy williams dismiss hairston for the trouble hes been getting into? Seems a lot of unc fans think so. I guess you guys have those super high standards.

[Heyward]

Should roy williams dismiss hairston for the trouble hes been getting into? Seems a lot of unc fans think so. I guess you guys have those super high standards.

He's suspended indefinitely.

Was announced a few days ago.

[elmonthc]

He's suspended indefinitely.

Was announced a few days ago.


Suspended indefinitely is a meaningless punishment. It just means his real punishment hasnt been decided yet. Do you think hell play for unc this year or not. He should just follow that kid from vandy to germany.

[Heyward]

Suspended indefinitely is a meaningless punishment. It just means his real punishment hasnt been decided yet. Do you think hell play for unc this year or not. He should just follow that kid from vandy to germany.

I have no idea if he will, I would hope he does.

If not, NIT probably.

[gilesfan]

Cmon, we all know he'll be playing in no time.

[BRule]

DEFENDING CHAMPS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[thethe]

I'm actually going to watch this year. I want to see if Wiggins is as good as the hype.

[Heyward]

I'm actually going to watch this year. I want to see if Wiggins is as good as the hype.

Not as good as some say ala Lebron 2.0

[ChapelHillMatt]

Cmon, we all know he'll be playing in no time.

He shouldn't

Roy should kick him off the team

[NinersSBChamps]

Not ready for college basketball yet.

[elmonthc]

MM is gonna be a stud for us.

[NinersSBChamps]

MM is gonna be a stud for us.

Cool. He's gone after this season anyway.

[holden]

Can't wait :)

[BRule]

Can't wait :)

FOR ANOTHER ****TY SEASON

[holden]

FOR ANOTHER ****TY SEASON

Kevin Ware is a crackhead

[BRule]

Kevin Ware is a crackhead

With a ring.

[CK86]

UNC should kick Hairston off the team if only to give Roy cover for when they suck (compared to his lofty standards) this year.

UK will lose no more than 1 game all season, I expect them to go undefeated.

[Heyward]

UNC should kick Hairston off the team if only to give Roy cover for when they suck (compared to his lofty standards) this year.

UK will lose no more than 1 game all season, I expect them to go undefeated.

UK isn't going undefeated, too many good teams across the country for that to happen.

They'll lose 4-5 games.

[holden]

Definitely will lose a game or two. Gonna win it all, though. Will easily be the best team by the end of the year, just like 2012.

[CK86]

Definitely will lose a game or two. Gonna win it all, though. Will easily be the best team by the end of the year, just like 2012.

I just LOL at how many 1st round draft picks that team will have this season. I think I read there were 7 on Chad Ford's pre-season Big Board. I honestly believe Calipari will go on a Saban like run in college basketball if he stays in college long enough. Dude has it figured out, thought it was a great hire initially and now it looks like a legacy like hire for the AD there.

[Heyward]

I just LOL at how many 1st round draft picks that team will have this season. I think I read there were 7 on Chad Ford's pre-season Big Board. I honestly believe Calipari will go on a Saban like run in college basketball if he stays in college long enough. Dude has it figured out, thought it was a great hire initially and now it looks like a legacy like hire for the AD there.

Everyone said the same **** this past season and we all saw what happened.

Freshman are exactly that, this class isn't as good as the Davis/MKG one and no senior leadership.

UK will be really good but hardly unbeatable by any stretch.

[holden]

oh Heyward. Never change.

[gilesfan]

Everyone said the same **** this past season and we all saw what happened.


You are a joke. Their 2013 and 2012 classes are no comparison.

Im just waiting for "We'll they were ranked first in each class!"

[Heyward]

oh Heyward. Never change.

Same with you.

[Heyward]

You are a joke. Their 2013 and 2012 classes are no comparison.

Im just waiting for "We'll they were ranked first in each class!"

Lot of people said the same exact **** last year.

Fact remains freshman are exactly that.

Proven upperclassman > unproven freshman.

[gilesfan]

Lot of people said the same exact **** last year.

Fact remains freshman are exactly that.

Proven upperclassman > unproven freshman.


No they didn't.

[jpx7]

I really abhor Calipari and his practices, but he and they are a product of the stupid system the NBA and NCAA has colluded into place.

[Heyward]

No they didn't.

Not as good as this years class but they basically said the same thing.

[gilesfan]

So, do you want to bet that Kentucky will be a lot better than last year?

[Heyward]

So, do you want to bet that Kentucky will be a lot better than last year?

I'd hope they will, not sure what that has to do with anything.

[BRule]

Everyone said the same **** this past season and we all saw what happened.

Freshman are exactly that, this class isn't as good as the Davis/MKG one and no senior leadership.

UK will be really good but hardly unbeatable by any stretch.

PREACH

[CK86]

It remains to be seen whether UK will have someone the caliber of MKG or Anthony Davis but the one thing I do know is that they've certainly got plenty of talent to make up for not having one of those superstar caliber players. As Calipari has shown before, age is just a number. If I have a choice between a good upperclassman and a great freshman, I'd rather have the great freshman any day of the week.

Cal gets his teams to play defense and play unselfishly, I see no reason why he won't be able to do that again.

[thethe]

isn't Randle supposed to be as talented as Davis & MKG?

I really have no clue who else they have.

[CK86]

isn't Randle supposed to be as talented as Davis & MKG?

I really have no clue who else they have.

He's supposed to be better offensively, not sure if he will be as great as either of those two defensively. I look forward to watching him play as much as I do Wiggins and Parker. I hate that Heyward makes me seem like a UK fan, it makes me want to vomit.

[holden]

isn't Randle supposed to be as talented as Davis & MKG?

I really have no clue who else they have.

Should probably have the best player in the country at 3 or 4 positions.

[gilesfan]

Should probably have the best player in the country at 3 or 4 positions.


Really? Which ones?

[gilesfan]

The NCAA can be hypocritical scumbags at times. http://hamptonroads.com/2013/08/odu-player-hills-eligibility-appeal-denied

This is one of the best student athletes in the county (at least academically). He's a team captain, just embodies what college athletics is designed to be about.

He goes to Clemson and as a freshman plays in 23 games.

As a soph he plays 8 mins in a closed door scrimmage at the beginning of the year and decides he wants to go back home and be with his family. (No medical hardship sent)

He then transferred that year to ODU and sat out

The kid then played 2 seasons at ODU.

But, the NCAA ruled his 8 mins scrimmage counts as a full year of eligibility despite granting a player at Notre Dame in a similar situation another year.

If it was UNC, I'm sure the player would get the extra year. (which by the way I called Hairston playing this year)

[BRule]

Davis > Randle > MKG

[Heyward]

Should probably have the best player in the country at 3 or 4 positions.

Lmao, no.

Only Randle.

Smart > Harrison

Selden/Gary Harris/Russ Smith > Harrison

Wiggins/Parker > Poy/Young

McGary > WCS/Young

[Bj1133]

Should probably have the best player in the country at 3 or 4 positions.

I'm sure UK will be pretty formidable, but that is a pretty ridiculous statement

[holden]

Randle will be the best 4. He might be the best freshman Calipari has had, according to the always-reliable summer reports.

I'll take Harrison over Smart.

The other Harrison might not be the best SG, but he's in the top 3-4.

I'd take WCS over any other big in the country next year.

Regardless, maybe not best in the country, but they'll have guys who are in the conversation at 3 or 4 positions. Might be more accurate to say that they'll have a top-5 player at each position, which is just as crazy.

[holden]

PREACH

I love when you side with Heyward. That's when I know you know you're beaten.

[Heyward]

I love when you side with Heyward. That's when I know you know you're beaten.

Cuz I'm right?

[Heyward]

Rose/Davis > Randle.

Get out.

[holden]

Rose/Davis > Randle.

Get out.

that's why I said "always-reliable" summer reports. That's what people around the workouts have been saying. Doesn't mean I believe it.

[holden]

The NCAA can be hypocritical scumbags at times. http://hamptonroads.com/2013/08/odu-player-hills-eligibility-appeal-denied

This is one of the best student athletes in the county (at least academically). He's a team captain, just embodies what college athletics is designed to be about.

He goes to Clemson and as a freshman plays in 23 games.

As a soph he plays 8 mins in a closed door scrimmage at the beginning of the year and decides he wants to go back home and be with his family. (No medical hardship sent)

He then transferred that year to ODU and sat out

The kid then played 2 seasons at ODU.

But, the NCAA ruled his 8 mins scrimmage counts as a full year of eligibility despite granting a player at Notre Dame in a similar situation another year.

If it was UNC, I'm sure the player would get the extra year. (which by the way I called Hairston playing this year)

Absolutely agree. It is amazing how the NCAA selectively enforces their rules. I really think between this and the growing tide of resentment over the fact that they profit off the backs of their players, but those same players can't even buy their own jersey, the NCAA's days are numbered.

[BRule]

Should probably have the best player in the country at 3 or 4 positions.

HIL.ARIOUS.

[holden]

k

[gilesfan]

And now the NCAA lets the marine play.

Guarentee if Donte HIll's story went on ESPN, the NCAA would grant him another year.

[BRule]

All the CBB guys are saying Mudiay is going to pick SMU over Kentucky tomorrow.

[holden]

Yeah, he's going to SMU. Nice job Larry Brown, I guess.

[Bj1133]

John Groce getting things done at Illinois! Leron Black last weekend and Quentin Snider commits tonight - still room for Cliff Alexander to come aboard.

[holden]

Quentin Snider commits tonight

Former Louisville commit. Their other 2014 5 star, JaQuan Lyle, also just de-committed tonight. Something going down at Louisville? (answer: probably! Chumps.)

Also, Tyler Ulis to UK. No big shock, but I'm excited about this kid. Probably a four year player simply because of his size. Will be kind of nice. 2014 class should be loaded. Not like 2011 or 2013, but still pretty good. Karl Towns is the truth.

[BRule]

Nothing going down, he is a diva who de-commit because we were still going after Whitehead and that hurt his feelings.

[Bj1133]

Crazy that Illinois was in on Lyle, he commits to Louisville and Snider decommits, Illinois jumps all over Snider and gets a verbal commitment this week, and 1 day later Lyle goes and backs out of his commitment to Louisville

PS - Big Cliff Alexander just announce that he is taking his final official visit at the end of October to Illinois - this would be the single greatest recruit to commit to Illinois in the last 20+ years. If Groce can land him, they may give him a lifetime contract.

[NinersSBChamps]

Crazy that Illinois was in on Lyle, he commits to Louisville and Snider decommits, Illinois jumps all over Snider and gets a verbal commitment this week, and 1 day later Lyle goes and backs out of his commitment to Louisville

PS - Big Cliff Alexander just announce that he is taking his final official visit at the end of October to Illinois - this would be the single greatest recruit to commit to Illinois in the last 20+ years. If Groce can land him, they may give him a lifetime contract.

I really think it's going to come down Illinois and MSU for Cliff and whoever gets him will be very happy.

[Bj1133]

Cliff Alexander ‏@humblekid11 23m

Me & broski will be playing @JMamba5 playing college basketball together

JMamba is Lyle's handle

[holden]

presented without comment: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9786854/north-carolina-tar-heels-tutor-resigns-citing-roy-williams-decision-not-dismiss-pj-hairston

[gilesfan]

http://zagsblog.com/louisville/louisvilles-behanan-suspended-indefinitely/

[holden]

http://zagsblog.com/louisville/louisvilles-behanan-suspended-indefinitely/

3 days later: "he'll be back in a short while"

Pitino is such a joke. Only lies when he's talking.

[holden]

Kentucky is going to be stupid this year. 40-0 is a little ridiculous... but if they don't lose early (and they might lose their second game), I don't know who is going to beat them.

7 NBA players.. in the freshman class. 2 more on the roster. James Young is the fourth-highest rated recruit on the team, and he might be the best offensive player. Julius Randle is just a freak of nature. He's not as good as Lebron was at this stage, obviously, but Lebron is the only comparison I can think of for someone who moves like that with that body. Maybe young Charles Barkley.

Gonna be a good year.

[BRule]

Lol

[holden]

Can't wait to see Louisville's entire roster foul out this entire year if they actually call the new rules as they say they're going to.

I can't even imagine a typical, attacking UK team (and this one is loaded) without defenders being able to hand-check and flop. So excited.

[BRule]

How did Kentucky being a top 12 team by the end of last year work out for you?

[Heyward]

Kentucky is going to be stupid this year. 40-0 is a little ridiculous... but if they don't lose early (and they might lose their second game), I don't know who is going to beat them.

7 NBA players.. in the freshman class. 2 more on the roster. James Young is the fourth-highest rated recruit on the team, and he might be the best offensive player. Julius Randle is just a freak of nature. He's not as good as Lebron was at this stage, obviously, but Lebron is the only comparison I can think of for someone who moves like that with that body. Maybe young Charles Barkley.

Gonna be a good year.

Just like they were a lock for Wiggins.

ROFL.

[holden]

Pretty sure I never said they were a lock for Wiggins. In fact, I'm pretty sure I said the exact opposite.

Yeah, I was wrong about last year, but I changed my tune after watching them play a couple games. I had no idea Harrow was so worthless and I also didn't know Noel was going to tear his ACL.

Say what you want. Kentucky has at least 8 NBA players on their roster. Only team that worries me is Duke honestly.

[Heyward]

There are 5-8 teams you should be worried about.

But you dont play on Kentucky, so why should you be worried?

[Heyward]

CBB is stupid deep this year, so many good teams.

Dook has ZERO bigs worth a damn, they're nasty on the perimeter though.

[holden]

What is Kentucky's weakness? What exactly should I be worried about?

[Heyward]

What is Kentucky's weakness? What exactly should I be worried about?

That you're relying on a ton of freshman?

[BRule]

What is Kentucky's weakness? What exactly should I be worried about?

Uhhhhhhh, the same thing that happened last year?

Kentucky fans are a trip

[holden]

0 chance

[Heyward]

Devin Booker commits to Kensucky.

[NinersSBChamps]

http://m.si.com/3566910/ef41e8b6/

Cal is a baby.

[BRule]

LMAO, never change Cal, never change.

[gilesfan]

I kinda like Michigan State and St Lou. Kansas could really come on with Wiggins as well. Lot of pretty good teams.

[Bj1133]

Not fair? Doesn't he have a hand in scheduling these games? I hope Michigan St puts a hurting on em next week

[Heyward]

I kinda like Michigan State and St Lou. Kansas could really come on with Wiggins as well. Lot of pretty good teams.

St Louis?

Meh.

Do agree there are alot of really good teams this year, good for CBB, ton of parity.

[holden]

You guys are dumb if you think Cal actually thinks those games aren't fair.

We have one of the most difficult schedules in the country year in and year out. We play the #2 and #3 teams this year.. and we play on the road at UNC.

[Heyward]

Please.

UNC plays MSU, Louisville, Kentucky, and a few other OOC tough games..

And we'll probably be without PJ and/or McDonald in all of those.

Is he bitching about it?

[holden]

No, he's not. He makes the schedule. I think he's just trying to say these early season games are harder for UK than your average team. At least I think that's what he's trying to say. It makes no sense for him to complain about it.

[BRule]

http://t.co/hb0RLpB2bY

Oh Kentucky.....

[NinersSBChamps]

You guys are dumb if you think Cal actually thinks those games aren't fair.

We have one of the most difficult schedules in the country year in and year out. We play the #2 and #3 teams this year.. and we play on the road at UNC.

Yeah last season was tough. Duke, Baylor, and Louisville and I am giving you Baylor.

The SEC is a joke when it comes to basketball.

[Bj1133]

Friday could be the most important day in Illinois Basketball since the 2005 National Championship Game. Cliff Alexander, a 2014 big man from Chicago, is set to decide between Kansas, Illinois and couple other schools (by all accounts, it is down to the first 2). He is rated as a top 5 player in his class and would most likely be a one and done player. However, his commitment to Illinois would mean so much more than his one year of playing for the team. It would show that Illinois is an option for the top Chicago kids (generally the top kids in the nation too - Chicago produces unreal talent each and every year). I've seen far too many top players leave the state, and while they have every right to do so, it would be nice to see somebody step up and be THE MAN at the state university. Cliff has that chance.

The 2014 Illini should be very good, even without the addition of Cliff - but, throw him in the mix and we are talking legit National Championship Contender. I cannot wait for Friday to get here. John Groce has been exactly what this program needed and he is starting to build an Illinois program that is going to be competing for B1G titles and Final Fours year in and year out.

[NinersSBChamps]

Friday could be the most important day in Illinois Basketball since the 2005 National Championship Game. Cliff Alexander, a 2014 big man from Chicago, is set to decide between Kansas, Illinois and couple other schools (by all accounts, it is down to the first 2). He is rated as a top 5 player in his class and would most likely be a one and done player. However, his commitment to Illinois would mean so much more than his one year of playing for the team. It would show that Illinois is an option for the top Chicago kids (generally the top kids in the nation too - Chicago produces unreal talent each and every year). I've seen far too many top players leave the state, and while they have every right to do so, it would be nice to see somebody step up and be THE MAN at the state university. Cliff has that chance.

The 2014 Illini should be very good, even without the addition of Cliff - but, throw him in the mix and we are talking legit National Championship Contender. I cannot wait for Friday to get here. John Groce has been exactly what this program needed and he is starting to build an Illinois program that is going to be competing for B1G titles and Final Fours year in and year out.

My guess is he commits to KU. I am hoping Cliff stays in state and heads to Illinois though. Would be nice for the conference to actually get one of these studs for a change.

[holden]

http://t.co/hb0RLpB2bY

Oh Kentucky.....

Kevin Ware is a punk b*tch

"I was hacked!" pretty typical for louisville scum.

[BRule]

Kevin Ware is a punk b*tch

"I was hacked!" pretty typical for louisville scum.

Awwww poor baby, still mad?

Maybe you should go to the Kentucky lockeroom, get naked, and get it slapped out of you by a bunch of dudes.

[Bj1133]

My guess is he commits to KU. I am hoping Cliff stays in state and heads to Illinois though. Would be nice for the conference to actually get one of these studs for a change.

Sure is a lot of momentum on the side of Illinois right now. I've tried to not get my hopes too high, but I really think he is going to pick the Illini

[holden]

LOL Pitino

Amazing how quickly almost losing to College of Charleston at home made Behanan into a changed man.

[BRule]

22 point victory is "almost losing" good to know

[holden]

was a 5 point game with 5 minutes to go.

do you even understand basketball?

[Heyward]

Plenty of other teams had a "close" game.

Keep reaching.

Worry about your ballhog twins.

[holden]

LOL "ballhog"

I'm sure Hairston will be back before you know it too!

This year is going to be amazing. I'm going to be the most obnoxious I've ever been. Hope you chumps are ready!

[Heyward]

LOL "ballhog"

I'm sure Hairston will be back before you know it too!

This year is going to be amazing. I'm going to be the most obnoxious I've ever been. Hope you chumps are ready!

I think Hairston will be done for the year, so im not sure what that has to do with anything.

To your bottom post, and if they dont win it all then what?

Me, Budden and others can troll you?

[BRule]

was a 5 point game with 5 minutes to go.

do you even understand basketball?

What's your point? They won by 22....that's not "almost losing"

[gilesfan]

GOnna enjoy watching Michigan State beat Kentucky tonight.

[weso1]

Huge game tonight. Really big early season game that college basketball fans can get pumped about. Can't wait. I assume everyone will be tuning into the UT/Xavier game tonight like I will?

[holden]

Incredible slate of games tonight. Can't wait. I love college basketball.

[Heyward]

Okafor, Tyus, Alexander to announce on Friday.

Sick feeling Dook gets Tyus/Okafor.

From what i've heard Tyus likes Dook, Okafor likes Kansas, so someone must of changed their mind.

[BRule]

Kentucky looks GOOD

[CrimsonCowboy]

Michigan State rolling right now. Just shows you can have too many freshmen. Rather have a team the way MSU is constructed.

[BRule]

OHHHHHH EMMMMM GEEEEEEEE WE HAVE SO MANY FRESHMAN

WOOOOOOOO KENTUCKY

[BRule]

OHHHHHH EMMMMMM GEEEEEE WE GOT THE HARRISON TWINS WOOOOOO

BTW, Louisville "almost lost" to Hofstra

[Heyward]

Louisville won by 28, but were only up 5 at one point in the 2nd half, so they almost lost.

UK fan logic.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Well, Kentucky trying to make me eat my words right now

[BRule]

Kentucky took 20 MORE FT's and LOST lolllllll

I'm interested to hear your take, Holden, since you love to comment on the refs

[Heyward]

40-0!!!!!!

KENTUCKY IS GOING UNDEFEATED

FRESHMAN WOOOOOOO

RANDLE AND YOUNG LOOK LIKE STUDS

THE BALL HOG TWINS ON THE OTHER HAND, NOT SO MUCH

AHHHHHHHHH WE GOT DA FRESHMANNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!

REFS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

[Heyward]

In all seriousness, Randle is a monster.

Young looks pretty good.

Harrison twins, meh.

Im sure holden will blame the refs though even though UK is shooting FT's at a ridiculous rate through 3 games.

[Heyward]

UK will lose no more than 1 game all season, I expect them to go undefeated.

LOL!!!!!!!!!

[Heyward]

Lmao, no.

Only Randle.

Smart > Harrison

Selden/Gary Harris/Russ Smith > Harrison

Wiggins/Parker > Poy/Young

McGary > WCS/Young

Damn im good.

Randle is the only one so far who is.

Smart, Gary Harris and Russ Smith **** on the Harrisons.

[holden]

Could not have played worse in the first half. Harrison twins were beyond awful the entire game. Literally handed them 20+ points. Michigan State hit everything.. including a lay-ip that was pinned to the glass. Looked like we had never played basketball before for the first 5 minutes. Could not make a free throw.

And still almost won. I'm not worried. As I'm sure none of you recall, I predicted Kentucky would lose this game.

[holden]

Duke probably the best team right now. Jabari is legit. Would take him over Wiggins, to be honest. Wouldn't take either over Randle.

[Heyward]

Duke probably the best team right now. Jabari is legit. Would take him over Wiggins, to be honest. Wouldn't take either over Randle.

Randle would eat the Dook interior for lunch.

They have zero inside game.

I do agree Randle is the best freshman so far.

[NinersSBChamps]

Could not have played worse in the first half. Harrison twins were beyond awful the entire game. Literally handed them 20+ points. Michigan State hit everything.. including a lay-ip that was pinned to the glass. Looked like we had never played basketball before for the first 5 minutes. Could not make a free throw.

And still almost won. I'm not worried. As I'm sure none of you recall, I predicted Kentucky would lose this game.

The stripes did everything they could to make sure you win tonight too. Glad to see the refs were in mid season form tonight. A neutral court game and one team shoots 20 three pointers and also has 19 more free throw attempts. Give me a break.

[yeezus]

Parker looked better this game. Didn't he come in more polished? Think Wiggins will end up easily taking him over by the end of the season. No way he doesn't go #1.

[yeezus]

Duke probably the best team right now.

?

[Heyward]

Parker looked better this game. Didn't he come in more polished? Think Wiggins will end up easily taking him over by the end of the season. No way he doesn't go #1.

Yes, Parker is more polished.

Do agree that Parker looked better but whoever is picking in the Top 5 is very lucky.

Between Smart, Wiggins, Parker, Randle, and even Embid, a lot of great players.

[yeezus]

Yes, Parker is more polished.

Do agree that Parker looked better but whoever is picking in the Top 5 is very lucky.

Between Smart, Wiggins, Parker, Randle, and even Embid, a lot of great players.

Aaron Gordon too.

[yeezus]

I like seeing my young Sixers play well, but I want one of those guys. Act accordingly, Philly.

[Heyward]

?


Yeah, much more impressed with Kansas over Dook.

Kansas looked way better than i thought.

That with Wiggins not playing in the 1st half for the last 11 minutes.

[Heyward]

I like seeing my young Sixers play well, but I want one of those guys. Act accordingly, Philly.

True fan, i would do the same, gotta lose to win.

[yeezus]

I think it will easily go Wiggins-Parker 1-2 respectively by the end of the year. Just my opinion.

[Heyward]

I think it will easily go Wiggins-Parker 1-2 respectively by the end of the year. Just my opinion.

Randle looks the most impressive to me, dude is a manchild.

Regardless, whoever is picking in the Top 4-5 wont be complaining.

[yeezus]

Selden is a guy who'd easily go top-3 in most of these recent drafts..just not this one.

[gilesfan]

Lol off even including Embid in that last. Dude has potential, but is a major project. Jabari Parker is the real deal and I would take him right now over any other freshman in the country. Randle is also very, very good though.

The refs weren't trying to give Kentucky the game, they are calling more fouls due to the emphasis on the rules. Most games are now 2.5 hour parades to the foul line.

Kentucky is good no doubt, but they aren't the "they got the talent to go undefeated" good. They were really piss poor outside of Randle. Right now CBB is all about staying out of foul trouble, if Payne stays out of foul trouble, I think Mich State wins a lot easier.

These kids better start learning how to defend without fouling or they need to just let them score. Several games were affected by the ticky tack fouls; does anyone really enjoy watching a game with 70 free throws?

[gilesfan]

Wiggins has the most talent, Parker has the more well rounded game at the moment.

[yeezus]

Refs were blowing the whistle wayyyy too much in the Duke/Kansas game. They need to let them play more.

[gilesfan]

Refs were blowing the whistle wayyyy too much in the Duke/Kansas game. They need to let them play more.

Its going to continue. It's the emphasis put in during the off season.

[yeezus]

I'm just curious as to why the NCAA would want that for their game. That crap got really annoying last night, the amount of consecutive whistles was nauseating.

[gilesfan]

People were complaining about how restrictive defenses have gotten. Look at teams like Louisville and VCU who were allowed to grab players driving to the basket with no foul calls. In theory, this should allow a more free flowing game with offensive players actually allowed to play basketball. But, kids haven't adjusted yet and are just fouling at insane rates.

UC Irvine had 48 field goal attempts last night and 40 free throw attempts.

Ohilo had 5 guys foul out.

[CK86]

Kansas was just the better team last night. They weathered the early foul trouble to Wiggins, hung in there and then executed at the free throw line all night. Duke did better than I expected for 38 minutes, the last 2 minutes were kind of an aberration.

I don't know how you play defense though with these new rules. Last night was unwatchable, the only reason I stayed tuned in was the team I root for was playing. It was a parade of free throws, there was no flow to the game and by the end it came down to who had more players left able to play. If you barely touch the offensive player, it's now a foul. It's just dumb as hell.

I can't wait for the new block/charge rule to start getting showcased too. You can literally go all LeBron James on someone (i.e. run like a freight train into guys) and it's a guaranteed foul. The defensive player has to be set at all times. It's going to be an even bigger mess when teams start figuring out there's literally no charging anymore unless you use your off-hand.

[gilesfan]

You play defense with your feet instead of your hands, thats how you avoid fouling. You are allowed to touch the offensive player, just not with two hands and you cant continuously hand check. I think its slightly too strict, but kids are going to have to adjust.

The block/charge is great though. I love that Duke players can't sneak under a player driving to the hoop and flop for a charge. It never made sense to me how a player could be going up in the air and have a player slide under him and the call be a charge.

[CK86]

I'm glad UK lost a game, I didn't want Cal going undefeated. I thought they would with as many top ranked recruits as they had, I was wrong.

[CK86]

You play defense with your feet instead of your hands, thats how you avoid fouling. You are allowed to touch the offensive player, just not with two hands and you cant continuously hand check. I think its slightly too strict, but kids are going to have to adjust.

The block/charge is great though. I love that Duke players can't sneak under a player driving to the hoop and flop for a charge. It never made sense to me how a player could be going up in the air and have a player slide under him and the call be a charge.

No doubt that Duke exploited the block/charge rule in the past, agree 100% on that. I'm just saying if there's never a threat for a charge due to the new rules, you can steamroll people over and it won't be an offensive foul. It hurts the defense way more than the offense and combined with the hand check rules, it's a hell of a lot tougher to play defense.

[gilesfan]

There were plenty of charge calls yesterday, I'm not sure what you mean.

[Heyward]

Lol off even including Embid in that last. Dude has potential, but is a major project. Jabari Parker is the real deal and I would take him right now over any other freshman in the country. Randle is also very, very good though.

The refs weren't trying to give Kentucky the game, they are calling more fouls due to the emphasis on the rules. Most games are now 2.5 hour parades to the foul line.

Kentucky is good no doubt, but they aren't the "they got the talent to go undefeated" good. They were really piss poor outside of Randle. Right now CBB is all about staying out of foul trouble, if Payne stays out of foul trouble, I think Mich State wins a lot easier.

These kids better start learning how to defend without fouling or they need to just let them score. Several games were affected by the ticky tack fouls; does anyone really enjoy watching a game with 70 free throws?

Thats my point, NBA is all about potential.

He is raw but he's oozing potential.

[Heyward]

Refs were blowing the whistle wayyyy too much in the Duke/Kansas game. They need to let them play more.

It sucks the new way they call the game is going to ruin one of the best CBB seasons in the last 10 years.

Cant breathe on anyone without a foul.

[BRule]

Randle is a stud BUT he did all of his damage when Payne went to the bench in the 2nd half.

Oh, and, Parker >

[holden]

The stripes did everything they could to make sure you win tonight too. Glad to see the refs were in mid season form tonight. A neutral court game and one team shoots 20 three pointers and also has 19 more free throw attempts. Give me a break.

rofl

[holden]

?

posted that as the game was just starting. i work really early so i didn't get to see much of the game, but i'm impressed kansas won. they must be better than i thought they would be. or maybe i gave duke too much credit.

[holden]

Randle is a stud BUT he did all of his damage when Payne went to the bench in the 2nd half.

Oh, and, Parker >

you keep getting dumber

he flat-out abused payne a few times in the second half. MSU was double- and triple-teaming him, and they couldn't do anything. dude just got 27 and 13 against michigan state and you're trying to downplay it? LOL

[NinersSBChamps]

rofl

Like I thought. You can't refute any of that. If this game was called even remotely close the Spartans win by 15. Must make you feel pretty bad about your squad...considering they are all getting a paycheck each week from Cal and the Spartans are all a bunch of students who happen to play a game.

[holden]

nah, you're just too much of an MFing idiot to be worthy of reply

[holden]

Randle is a stud BUT he did all of his damage when Payne went to the bench in the 2nd half.

Oh, and, Parker >

seriously one of the dumbest posts of all time.

here are 3 minutes of randle owning payne (skip to 0:25 to avoid seeing him destroy MSU's other scrubs).

. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdsY62qaCoA#t=25s)

try again, fool

[NinersSBChamps]

nah, you're just too much of an MFing idiot to be worthy of reply
Tears.

[NinersSBChamps]

seriously one of the dumbest posts of all time.

here are 3 minutes of randle owning payne.

. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdsY62qaCoA#t=25s)

try again, fool

wop

[NinersSBChamps]

And owning Payne who wasn't allowed to play defense isn't owning at all. Notice how much "better" Randle was in the second half when the officiating completely changed.

[holden]

http://gyazo.com/5932985423f820a319ee0e22d6d51537.png

got a lot to say there, bucko

[BRule]

you keep getting dumber

he flat-out abused payne a few times in the second half. MSU was double- and triple-teaming him, and they couldn't do anything. dude just got 27 and 13 against michigan state and you're trying to downplay it? LOL

How is calling him a "stud" down playing it? What did he do vs Payne in the 1st half when Payne wasn't in foul trouble and before the refs decided to call everything under the sun on MSU? Nothing.

[holden]

great post! i appreciate your sh*tty insight!

[NinersSBChamps]

How is calling him a "stud" down playing it? What did he do vs Payne in the 1st half when Payne wasn't in foul trouble and before the refs decided to call everything under the sun on MSU? Nothing.

this holden dude sucks dick.

[Heyward]

Randle is god.

No one can stop him, he walks on water.

That better?

Btw, still laughing when i said the Harrisons were OVERRATED!

[holden]

ummmm, did you watch the video/game? "no one can stop him" is pretty much right. the play at 3 minutes is my favorite part.

that said, the harrisons were a stinking pile of garbage last night. i think they'll end up fine, but that's definitely a big concern going forward. they gave lackluster effort last night and pretty much cost UK the game.

btw, the officiating was fine. didn't love it, but it was overall okay. some ticky-tack calls both ways, and some hacks that were missed. they missed several out of bounds calls. MSU had to foul to try to stop randle. he'll shoot a ton of free throws this year.

[yeezus]

posted that as the game was just starting. i work really early so i didn't get to see much of the game, but i'm impressed kansas won. they must be better than i thought they would be. or maybe i gave duke too much credit.

Yeah, surprisingly Kansas outran Duke while being the bigger team. Kansas is deep. Ellis/Wiggins/Selden all played great games.

[NinersSBChamps]

http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/132/148/1148132.jpg

[CK86]

Sadly Kansas, Kentucky and Michigan State are all really ad matchups against Duke. Any team with lots of quality bigs or rebounders are going to give Duke trouble. I haven't seen Louisville play yet but I imagine they'll be an awful matchup too. Duke has a very good to great collection of wing players but no big guys at all to compliment them. That's why I don't expect a deep run this year unless Parker magically starts getting 15 rebounds a game.

With that being said, at least they'll be entertaining to watch because all the games will be high scoring. No defense and no rebounding means a lot of close, high scoring games.

[holden]

Louisville will be okay because Chane is magically a changed man and can play basketball again but they won't be as good as they were last year. Siva and Dieng were huge to that team. And if the refs actually call the fouls like they say they will, Louisville's brand of ugly-as-sin, foul-you-so-many-times-they-can't-call-them-all will just not work anymore. Meanwhile, the rest of college basketball is much better after the abortion that was 2013. I don't see them going very far.

[Bj1133]

What was potentially going to be a great day for Illini basketball could turn out to be really ****ty based on some of the recruiting rumors going around.

[BRule]

Louisville will be okay because Chane is magically a changed man and can play basketball again but they won't be as good as they were last year. Siva and Dieng were huge to that team. And if the refs actually call the fouls like they say they will, Louisville's brand of ugly-as-sin, foul-you-so-many-times-they-can't-call-them-all will just not work anymore. Meanwhile, the rest of college basketball is much better after the abortion that was 2013. I don't see them going very far.

20 more FT's and LOST!

[Heyward]

Louisville will be okay because Chane is magically a changed man and can play basketball again but they won't be as good as they were last year. Siva and Dieng were huge to that team. And if the refs actually call the fouls like they say they will, Louisville's brand of ugly-as-sin, foul-you-so-many-times-they-can't-call-them-all will just not work anymore. Meanwhile, the rest of college basketball is much better after the abortion that was 2013. I don't see them going very far.

What's your definition of not going far?

1st or 2nd round?

If Louisville is healthy, they could go anywhere from Sweet 16 to maybe winning it all, good squad.

[BRule]

Quentin Snider signs with Louisville. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Bj1133]

Quentin Snider signs with Louisville. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Can't fault the kid for wanting to play for the team he grew up rooting for. First bit of bad news for Illinois on the day - sure hope Cliff's decision makes Illini fans feel a little better this afternoon.

[NinersSBChamps]

Can't fault the kid for wanting to play for the team he grew up rooting for. First bit of bad news for Illinois on the day - sure hope Cliff's decision makes Illini fans feel a little better this afternoon.

Are Tyus Jones and Cliff announcing today?

[Heyward]

Are Tyus Jones and Cliff announcing today?

Yes, Stanley Johnson is too

4 of the top 9 announce today.

Unfortunately, both seem like they'll go to Dook :Sad:

[BRule]

Cliff Alexander signs with Kansas

[Heyward]

Cliff Alexander signs with Kansas

LINK?

Nothing official but all signs point to it.

[BRule]

LINK?

Nothing official but all signs point to it.

Multiple outlets reporting it, no team will confirm it, yet.

[Bj1133]

I've seen it been reported both ways, so I'll wait til Cliff makes his announcement

[NinersSBChamps]

Surprisingly Tyus and his boyfriend sign with Duke.

[NinersSBChamps]

lol Cliff grabbed the Illinois hat first.

[BRule]

lol Cliff grabbed the Illinois hat first.

Rough day for Illini

[Bj1133]

I'm fine with the decision to go Kansas, but how he handled it was ridiculous. Showed zero class and now has an entire fan base against him.

[Bj1133]

Rough day for Illini

You said it. Still several guys available, but Illinois is out of scholarships for next season anyway. Really like the way Groce has gotten this program back on track and see good things in the future.

[NinersSBChamps]

Columbia beating MSU at the half. I am sure the Spartans will pull this one out, but I do not want to be a player in that locker room right now.

[holden]

Congrats PJ Hairston on his impending eligibility

[CK86]

Outside of the whole ass whooping loss to Kansas, it was a pretty good week for Duke. Football team beat Miami for the first time in like forever (or maybe actually forever) and is now ranked. Got Jahlil Okafor and Tyus Jones with a good shot at Justise Winslow next week too. Had a solid showing following the loss to KU. Oh yeah and UNC lost to Belmont with JP Tokoto shooting a spectacular 4-16 on free throws. Good week all things considered :D

[holden]

http://www.whas11.com/sports/university-of-louisville-sports/Kevin-Ware-accused-of-reckless-driving-misses-Barren-Co-court-date-232378961.html

owner of the car is co-owner of a party-planning company that lists U of L as one of their clients
WHOOPS

[Heyward]

I didnt see the game, but its not that surprising they lost.

Have one legit shooter on the team, others are in suits.

Not going too far anyway this year.

Good recruiting class coming in next year with mostly everyone coming back.

[NinersSBChamps]

Can we make a separate thread for Lville and KU...I mean UK battle each other?

[BRule]

http://www.whas11.com/sports/university-of-louisville-sports/Kevin-Ware-accused-of-reckless-driving-misses-Barren-Co-court-date-232378961.html

owner of the car is co-owner of a party-planning company that lists U of L as one of their clients
WHOOPS

OMG THEY USE A COMPANY TO PLAN PARTIES! OMG A 20 SOMETHING WAS SPEEDING!

THE WORLD IS ENDING

[holden]

OMG THEY USE A COMPANY TO PLAN PARTIES! OMG A 20 SOMETHING WAS SPEEDING!

THE WORLD IS ENDING

lol yeah, nothing to see here folks

i drive 95 in a construction zone in a borrowed $40,000 car all the time. and i definitely never show up to court afterwards. WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?

[holden]

Yep, clearly this is all just a big misunderstanding. Why make a big deal out of it?

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20131119/columnists01/311190090/tim-sullivan-louisville-s-court-justice-moves-swiftly

http://www.wdrb.com/story/24010376/crawford-still-more-questions-than-answers-on-ware

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/822775623.jpg?1384884388

http://s7.postimg.org/91kh7xv0r/cancelled2.jpg

a sh*t head with a broken leg = still a sh*t head

[holden]

Bonus: look for more info to come out soon in regards to your boy Chane and another failure to appear.. after being cited while driving a 2012 Mustang owned by another U of L booster.

#CARSFORCARDS

[yeezus]

I don't see why that makes him a ****head. A lot of big schools have players that accept gifts. Some get caught. Some don't.

[yeezus]

lol yeah, nothing to see here folks

i drive 95 in a construction zone in a borrowed $40,000 car all the time. and i definitely never show up to court afterwards. WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?

No one said driving 95 was smart, but I've driven 140 in a 65 before, and it was awesome.
The borrowed car thing is silly to me, it's BS athletes get shafted the way they do, anyway. More power to them.

[gilesfan]

I always laugh when fans get riled up about stuff like this. Do you think this doesn't happen at Kentucky? Or Arizona? Or. UNC?

[holden]

If this happened at Kentucky, somehow I feel like most people's attitudes would be a little different.

[holden]

I always laugh when fans get riled up about stuff like this. Do you think this doesn't happen at Kentucky? Or Arizona? Or. UNC?

Yeah, it's almost like every jealous fan of an opposing school constantly accuses Kentucky of cheating or something

[CK86]

A poster on the Duke board I'm a part of posted this tonight:

"So, according to hoop-math.com, UNC is 1st among all D1 teams in % of their shots that are 2-point jumpers, and 351st (last) among all D1 teams in % of their shots that are shots at the rim."

I found this too incredible not to share. That's just amazing to me.

[yeezus]

If this happened at Kentucky, somehow I feel like most people's attitudes would be a little different.

Mine wouldn't be different at all, I'm not delusional and I know it happens at a lot of places.

[BRule]

Holden is sooooooo mad lol

Justise Winslow commits to Duke, who now have the number 1-4-10-36 ranked recruits in the '14 class

[CK86]

One of Coach K's best classes ever. I know Myles Turner isn't coming but that is the only way this class could get better.

[Heyward]

Lose to Belmont at home, beat Louisville, makes sense.

Marcus Paige>>>>

Love Meeks.

[holden]

weird that Louisville would struggle defensively in the same year they emphasize calling fouls correctly

Really bad loss for them. UNC is not a great team. Roy coached circles around Rick, though.

[Heyward]

weird that Louisville would struggle defensively in the same year they emphasize calling fouls correctly

Really bad loss for them. UNC is not a great team. Roy coached circles around Rick, though.

They arent good as things stand now, if PJ/McDonald come back, UNC can be pretty good.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Love Meeks passing ability

Paige seems ready to be the leader of this team as well.

Hope this team can get PJ and McDonald back.

THIS WAS A HUGE WIN!

[NinersSBChamps]

Holden is sooooooo mad lol

Justise Winslow commits to Duke, who now have the number 1-4-10-36 ranked recruits in the '14 class

Seems Coach K is back to opening up his checkbook.

[NinersSBChamps]

Love Meeks passing ability

Paige seems ready to be the leader of this team as well.

Hope this team can get PJ and McDonald back.

THIS WAS A HUGE WIN!

See you in a couple weeks, Matt.

[CK86]

Stating the obvious but Duke isn't winning a thing this year, defense is just too awful to overcome.

[BRule]

weird that Louisville would struggle defensively in the same year they emphasize calling fouls correctly

Really bad loss for them. UNC is not a great team. Roy coached circles around Rick, though.

You're an idiot, they lost because they couldn't rebound or get any scoring from their bigs. You suck at trolling.

[Heyward]

Wait, Dook only beat Vermont by 1?

Were they sleepwalking through that game or what.

If we get PJ/McDonald back, maybe we could actually give them a game, sadly wont happen unfortunately.

[Heyward]

See you in a couple weeks, Matt.

Not expecting a win but between the gauntlent of Louisville/MSU/Kentucky, winning one of those would be good for a resume builder.

Anymore, would be gravy especially without two of our top shooters out.

[holden]

You're an idiot, they lost because they couldn't rebound or get any scoring from their bigs. You suck at trolling.

yeah, the 135 run-outs on outlet passes from Fatty Meeks had nothing to do with it

learn 2 basketball, please

[Heyward]

35+ FT's vs Clev State, smh.

[BRule]

yeah, the 135 run-outs on outlet passes from Fatty Meeks had nothing to do with it

learn 2 basketball, please

Congrats on the big win vs Clev St, How much did WWW give the refs with with 6 minutes left?

[holden]

squeaking by cleveland st > losing to north carolina

[Bdawg2309]

can't wait to see kentucky flop in march

[Heyward]

squeaking by cleveland st > losing to north carolina

And if UNC beat Kentucky?

[BRule]

squeaking by cleveland st > losing to north carolina

Well yeah, playing an UNRANKED team is the same as playing a top 25 team....oh wait, no it's not....

[holden]

honestly, you guys should just stop posting for a while and try to learn a thing or two

[NinersSBChamps]

Not expecting a win but between the gauntlent of Louisville/MSU/Kentucky, winning one of those would be good for a resume builder.

Anymore, would be gravy especially without two of our top shooters out.

UNC has our number. I wouldn't be surprised to lose that game.

[Heyward]

UNC has our number. I wouldn't be surprised to lose that game.

This is true but only shot we have is if one of McDonald/PJ return for that game.

MSU is one of if not the best team in CBB, so not expecting a win, hope it's a close game.

[BRule]

honestly, you guys should just stop posting for a while and try to learn a thing or two

Cal is going to look good coaching the Knicks

[CrimsonCowboy]

Good opportunity for Alabama tonight. Roll Tide!

[Runnin]

5'10" guard Derrick Millinghaus blocked 9 shots and had 10 steals for Ole Miss last night against Carolina A & T. I think somebody's as tired of the Marshall Henderson hype as I am.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Absolutely livid right now. I'm going to leave it at that

[NinersSBChamps]

This is true but only shot we have is if one of McDonald/PJ return for that game.

MSU is one of if not the best team in CBB, so not expecting a win, hope it's a close game.

I don't see this game being anything but a very close competitive game throughout. The Breslin Center will be rocking though!

[CK86]

Cool, UNC lost to UAB.

[holden]

also LOL at louisville and behanan

yeah, i'm sure that championship ring he tried to ebay was stolen. what a moron.

[Heyward]

Didnt see the game but they arent going far this year the way things stand now.

[Heyward]

LOL, UNC beats MSU in their own building and Louisville on a neutral floor but loses to UAB and Belmont :facepalm:

[holden]

Great win for UNC. Really did not see that coming.

I'm not sure MSU is all that good, unfortunately. That's not taking anything away from UNC.. if anything it's taking away from UK. Outside of the first half of the UK game they really haven't been that impressive. Then again, it is an Izzo team, so I'm sure they'll be great by the end of the year.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Great win for UNC. Really did not see that coming.

I'm not sure MSU is all that good, unfortunately. That's not taking anything away from UNC.. if anything it's taking away from UK. Outside of the first half of the UK game they really haven't been that impressive. Then again, it is an Izzo team, so I'm sure they'll be great by the end of the year.

Yep MSU always does this, they'll be there at seasons end like they always are.

Roy is now 7-0 vs Izzo. He must know something others don't.

Now let's see if we can beat UNCG, lol

[NinersSBChamps]

UNC just flat out owns MSU. Izzo said that game was one of his most disappointing of his career. Or something to that effect. I predicted a loss anyway, but to get blown out at home is just awful.

[Heyward]

UNC just flat out owns MSU. Izzo said that game was one of his most disappointing of his career. Or something to that effect. I predicted a loss anyway, but to get blown out at home is just awful.

You really picked them to lose?

[Heyward]

40-0

[BRule]

LOLKentucky

[NinersSBChamps]

You really picked them to lose?

Well I think I said a something like I expect a loss. But yes I didn't think they were going to win.

[holden]

UK/UNC Saturday

Could see this going either way. We can actually match UNC's size inside, which will help us. I think the key is whether or not our lazy freshmen decide they want to get back and play transition defense. If we let Meeks fire halfcourt outlet passes all game, and UNC gets lots of points off transition lay-ups, it's going to be painful. But if we slow them down and Andrew Harrison can actually figure out how to keep an opposing guard in front of him, I think UK will pull it out.

Both teams need the victory, but Kentucky really needs it. If we don't beat UNC or Louisville, then our only quality non-conference wins will be Boise State and Belmont (though that's not a guaranteed victory either). Should be interesting.

[Heyward]

I think our luck vs top teams run out.

At least its home, not sure its not that big of an advantage.

Essentially have 1 outside shooter right now.

Gonna need to pound UK inside with Brice, Meeks, JMM and co.

[Bj1133]

UNC-UK game is rough to watch. Good athletes on the floor, not good basketball players

EDIT - And Calipari is still the King of Tools

[Heyward]

UNC-UK game is rough to watch. Good athletes on the floor, not good basketball players

EDIT - And Calipari is still the King of Tools

UNC has no shooters, im amazed the score is what it is.

[BRule]

squeaking by cleveland st > losing to north carolina

OMG KENTUCKY LOST TO UNC LOLLLLL

[Heyward]

Great game.

Marcus Paige>>>

Hopefully holden doesnt blame the refs even though UNC was called for 7 straight fouls to start the 2nd half.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Sloppy game

Glad to get the win but it wasn't all that fun to watch. I hate games with that many fouls called.

Hope we can get PJ Hariston and Leslie McDonald back soon.....we really need them. We have no outside shooting right now other than Paige. You could see Kentucky try to take him out of the game in the 1st half and it worked for the most part. He's a great player so you can't shut him down completely but it would be nice if he had some help.

[CK86]

Good win again for UNC. I have no idea how they're doing it given they have no shooting aside from Paige. Paige is a one man wrecking crew.

[BRule]

Kentucky isn't even close to a final 4 team, much less a championship one.

[Heyward]

Meh, pretty much every team has flaws.

Lot of parity.

That said, UK got WAYYYYYYYYYYY too much preseason hype IE 40-0 crap which is ****ing ridiculous.

I do think they'll be real good by March though.

[Heyward]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbfM-kXCcAAnVvC.jpg:large

[Heyward]

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.hipchat.com/47464/318785/0x7Z7N7ycFhLnok/Crossover2.gif

[holden]

Was a good win for UNC. They're definitely better than I thought. Kentucky has tons of individual talent, and has all the right pieces, but they just have no idea how to play as a team. And it's no given that they'll ever get there. If Randle plays like that, though, Kentucky has no shot against almost anybody. What a horrid performance from him. He's not selfish.. he just has no idea how to be part of a team yet.

And yeah, won't blame the refs, although they were hilarious in the first half. I think Cal's technical made them even it up a bit in the second though, and Kentucky was tied or ahead at some point there. Bad/dumb passing and bad defense is what cost UK the game.

[holden]

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.hipchat.com/47464/318785/0x7Z7N7ycFhLnok/Crossover2.gif

this is what happens when you switch every ball screen.

2013-14 Kentucky could be one of the best zone teams ever with their length.. but Cal just won't play it. Oh well. Maybe he's taking his lumps now for long-term improvement.

[Heyward]

Yahoo Reports says Leslie McDonald may be cleared, but things dont look quite as good for PJ.

Not extremely surprising if true but still sucks.

UNC could of stolen a title this year with how wide open it is this year.

[gilesfan]

PJ shouldn't return, but Roy probably will get him back. I mean gun and weed in a rental car given to you....hmmmm

[Heyward]

PJ shouldn't return, but Roy probably will get him back. I mean gun and weed in a rental car given to you....hmmmm

I'd be surprised if he plays this year.

Re: PJ.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Why can't we make our FT's?

[Heyward]

Why can't we make our FT's?

I dont know, probably undefeated and #1 if they could make them.

Or at least only 1 loss to UAB.

McDonald and Britt missed FT's, and McAdoo missed 10 of them.

[Heyward]

A resolution for PJ by the end of this week.

I'd be surprised if he played all year, stand by it.

[ChapelHillMatt]

I hope he's cleared but if not he has nobody to blame but himself. He has really let everyone down, this is a top 5 team if he could just do what's right.

[holden]

9 games is a joke for what McDonald did. the NCAA is a complete and total sham.