4/15/15 n GDT: Phil at 3rd! Kelly in right!

[rico43]

FISH
1. Dee Gordon (L) 2B
2. Ichiro Suzuki (L) LF
3. Giancarlo Stanton (R) RF
4. Martin Prado (R) 3B
5. Michael Morse (R) 1B
6. Marcell Ozuna (R) CF
7. J.T. Realmuto (R) C
8. Adeiny Hechavarria (R) SS
9. Dan Haren (R) P

OUR HEROES
1. Cameron Maybin (R) CF
2. Phil Gosselin (R) 3B
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Christian Bethancourt (R) C
5. Kelly Johnson (L) RF
6. Jonny Gomes (R) LF
7. Jace Peterson (L) 2B
8. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
9. Eric Stults (L) P

[sturg33]

FISH
1. Dee Gordon (L) 2B
2. Ichiro Suzuki (L) LF
3. Giancarlo Stanton (R) RF
4. Martin Prado (R) 3B
5. Michael Morse (R) 1B
6. Marcell Ozuna (R) CF
7. J.T. Realmuto (R) C
8. Adeiny Hechavarria (R) SS
9. Dan Haren (R) P

OUR HEROES
1. Cameron Maybin (R) CF
2. Phil Gosselin (R) 3B
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Christian Bethancourt (R) C
5. Kelly Johnson (L) RF
6. Jonny Gomes (R) LF
7. Jace Peterson (L) 2B
8. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
9. Eric Stults (L) P

Oh my...

and good to know Fredi thinks Gosselin is a better hitter than Jace

[The Chosen One]

I think the organization still has a soft spot for Kelly.

[Dalyn]

Other than Gomes, Peterson has the highest OBP in the lineup. Fredi sure likes to **** on young guys at second. Must be a Cuban thing. No wonder all the middle infielders from over there defected.

[Hawk]

I did laugh out loud there. Mainly because I read that as defecated.

[Dalyn]

I did laugh out loud there. Mainly because I read that as defecated.

That was by design.

[JohnAdcox]

You know you’re a team to be feared when Christian Bethancourt is your cleanup hitter.

[Julio3000]

You know you’re a team to be feared when Christian Bethancourt is your cleanup hitter.

This goes right along with all the old nugget of baseball wisdom that says that the best way to keep pressure off kid who is still leaning to hit is to put him in the cleanup spot.

[Julio3000]

I think the organization still has a soft spot for Kelly.

Which Kelly reciprocates by being a soft spot in the organization.

(aw, I <3 KJ)

[nsacpi]

Gosselin has strong talismanic powers that are not fully appreciated around here.

[DaneHill]

Wow. Sorry, Stults. Why does Fredi hate you?

[zitothebrave]

I really hope Stultz is a ground ball pitcher.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Shouldn't Peterson be hitting 2nd?

[Hawk]

Wow. Sorry, Stults. Why does Fredi hate you?

Probably because he ends his last name in an 'S' and not a 'Z'.

[Dalyn]

I really hope Stultz pitches a perfect game.

:tchop:

[zitothebrave]

Probably because he ends his last name in an 'S' and not a 'Z'.

Valid point. Braves had a history of being perfectionist on Germanic pronunciation and spelling. It's the biggest reason Langerhans isn't on the team anymore.

[mfree80]

This goes right along with all the old nugget of baseball wisdom that says that the best way to keep pressure off kid who is still leaning to hit is to put him in the cleanup spot.

Maybe if we could get him to quit leaning he would see the ball better. :icon_biggrin:

[Tapate50]

CB guns another one...

Gordon nailed

[Hawk]

THAT is why Bethancourt might stick.

[nsacpi]

Even though we may lose a game or two this year, this is a very entertaining team that hustles and makes contact. It reflects very positively on Muk's veteran leadership and Hart's strategic vision.

[Russ2dollas]

THAT is why Bethancourt might stick.

D will be calling card...but I think he's been a pleasant surprise at the plate. Maybe b/c I saw him look lost last year so I was expecting BJ Upton level at bats...

[Russ2dollas]

thought Freddie would bunt here....

[gilesfan]

CB is a lock to hit a double here and Fredi will flick off the haterz.

[TDlxANDER]

Just pulled up gameday and Freddie was black. I assume it's just a tribute to Jackie....

[gilesfan]

Ok, so CB will wait till clutch time to get the big hit.

[Russ2dollas]

missed a chance there......Harren throwing a lot mid 80s cutters and FB per gameday...not impressive....

When do we flip KJ? :)

[Hawk]

Somebody stuff a dirty rag in Paul Byrd's mouth and tell him to stop gesticulating so much.

[Dalyn]

Confused why we pitched to Dee, but whatever.

[Julio3000]

Dan Haren is pretty turrible. Come on, guys.

[Dalyn]

Got to take advantage of that error. What a horrible play.

[Dalyn]

Wonderful.

[sturg33]

If you take out the 12 run game (I know I know)... the offense has averaged 2.75 runs in the other 8 games...

It's not a good offense folks.

[thewupk]

Great pitching and clutch hitting is all we need

[Dalyn]

If you take out the 12 run game (I know I know)... the offense has averaged 2.75 runs in the other 8 games...

It's not a good offense folks.

Combine that with Fredi's ****ty lineups, and it is going to be a long season.

[thewupk]

If you take out the 12 run game (I know I know)... the offense has averaged 2.75 runs in the other 8 games...

It's not a good offense folks.

Isn't that what people said about our offense last year before it really *** the bed at the end of the year.

[gilesfan]

Just need a few more non strikeouts and we will get back in the game.

[Dalyn]

Cody Martin's parents. There you have it. I'm guessing Glavine is the real father.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Welp.

[jsebe10]

Welp.

Hack pitching.

[thewupk]

Welp.

first series loss of the year. was a fun ride

[Dalyn]

Can't believe Martin didn't make the rotation.

[Dalyn]

I'm pretty sure we're going to get no-hit today.

[nsacpi]

I'm pretty sure we're going to get no-hit today.

Andrelton says thank you.

Could you add something about being sure we're going to lose.

[Dalyn]

I'm pretty sure we're going to lose today.

[Tapate50]

Martin 10ks in 5 2/3

[zbhargrove]

4 and the 5 in the rotation are concerning. We need Martin in there. I'm still hopeful Cahill can turn it around but Stults looks washed up. Cahill just needs to somehow get his command and control back.

[Dalyn]

At least I get to watch Martin.

[Dalyn]

Glavine must be so proud.

[Tapate50]

At least I get to watch Martin get taken deep.

:Sad:

[Julio3000]

Trying to win games in our 4-5 slot in the rotation is going to be a slog if Roger doesn't work some magic with Cahill.

Or if C-Mart 2.0 doesn't join the rotation.

[UNCBlue012]

So, both Cahill and Stultz suck. This is great.

[Dalyn]

:Sad:

He was bound to give up a run eventually. His first of the year (counting ST). Better it happens in a 4-0 game.

[gilesfan]

Trying to win games in our 4-5 slot in the rotation is going to be a slog if Roger doesn't work some magic with Cahill.

Or if C-Mart 2.0 doesn't join the rotation.

Don't worry, we only have Stults and Cahill for a couple months before we trade them for top prospects.

[Dalyn]

So, both Cahill and Stultz suck. This is great.

Cahill could've just been rusty. I would give him the first half, at least. Give Roger some time with him.

[UNCBlue012]

So... why isn't Maybin starting?

[gilesfan]

Rally Killer Maybin

[Dalyn]

The ball is really carrying to left.

[gilesfan]

So... why isn't Maybin starting?


Too many homers, too many strikeouts.

[Julio3000]

Maybin, huh?

[thewupk]

So... why isn't Maybin starting?

The Braves don't want players with power. Only small ball is needed here.

[Dalyn]

Not Young enough for you, Fredi?

[Dalyn]

I'm pretty sure we won't score six runs this inning.

[Dalyn]

Swing. Swing. Swing. Swing.

[UNCBlue012]

The issue with Bethancour is that he swings at EVERYTHING thrown. Jeez.

[Julio3000]

That EY Spring Training tho

[Dalyn]

Why pull Martin?

[Dalyn]

Wow. What a DP. Really close at first.

[AJonesATL]

Lets get some runs and steal this game!

[UNCBlue012]

Remember when that Kelly Johnson homer would of been huge for us?

[sturg33]

We may lead the league in lowest attendance this year

[Dalyn]

Good start.

[sturg33]

We may lead the league in lowest attendance this year

Which is surprising considering how fun this team is, now that all the stench is gone

[Dalyn]

Remember when that Kelly Johnson homer would of been huge for us?

2005?

[UNCBlue012]

Did Morse just make a good play at first? What the? That's surprising.

[Dalyn]

Did Morse just make a good play at first? What the? That's surprising.

He has a couple this game.

[thewupk]

Which is surprising considering how fun this team is, now that all the stench is gone

Seems like the stench is back. Homers and K's.

[NinersSBChamps]

Braves and their fans getting smacked back to reality.

[UNCBlue012]

Seems like the stench is back. Homers and K's.

I'm less frustrated about homers and more frustrated because they're all solo dingers again.

[UNCBlue012]

Avilan has really been pitching some good ball so far this year.

[Dalyn]

I'm less frustrated about homers and more frustrated because they're all solo dingers again.

That's what happens with a team OBP at around .300.

[NinersSBChamps]

Seems like the stench is back. Homers and K's.

They have struckout 5 times today.

[thewupk]

They have struckout 5 times today.

Game isn't over yet

[UNCBlue012]

Yeah, Young needs to be snagged from the leadoff role quickly. He just struck out on three high fastballs. lol

[NinersSBChamps]

That's what happens with a team OBP at around .300.

Yep pretty much.

The idea for an offensive philosophy is good. But when you have a ton of sub par players it's gonna suck no matter what.

[DaneHill]

This game has been fairly predictable the moment the line-up was announced. Bleh.

[Dalyn]

This game has been fairly predictable the moment the line-up was announced. Bleh.

Yep.

[NinersSBChamps]

Yeah, Young needs to be snagged from the leadoff role quickly. He just struck out on three high fastballs. lol

Sure, but then we are asking the same question for almost a decade now. Who bats lead off? We had Bourn, but chose to sign BJ Upton instead.

[Dalyn]

Sure, but then we are asking the same question for almost a decade now. Who bats lead off? We had Bourn, but chose to sign BJ Upton instead.

He isn't the answer to that question.

[thewupk]

Yep pretty much.

The idea for an offensive philosophy is good. But when you have a ton of sub par players it's gonna suck no matter what.

I agree. If you want to build around a team that doesn't strikeout and puts the ball in play then that's fine. But if the guys you have in general just suck even if they do that then your offense is going to suck. Same thing if you go for the 'steroid approach' and ignore K's and just go with power. That works if you have good hitters and it won't work if your hitters suck. The approach that Wren wanted wasn't wrong. He just had the wrong players.

[thewupk]

Sure, but then we are asking the same question for almost a decade now. Who bats lead off? We had Bourn, but chose to sign BJ Upton instead.

And then moved Heyward there but traded him.

[NinersSBChamps]

He isn't the answer to that question.

At this point, Simmons deserves a shot to bat there. At least he puts the ball in play.

[thewupk]

At this point, Simmons deserves a shot to bat there. At least he puts the ball in play.

But he doesn't walk and historically doesn't have a good BABIP beause he pops up a lot and has weak contact. That's not going to get it done in the leadoff spot either.

[NinersSBChamps]

But he doesn't walk and historically doesn't have a good BABIP beause he pops up a lot and has weak contact. That's not going to get it done in the leadoff spot either.

Oh I know. At this point anyone deserves a chance because so and so isn't going to do worse than <insert name here.>

[Dalyn]

Markakis should be the guy at the top right now.

[thewupk]

Oh I know. At this point anyone deserves a chance because so and so isn't going to do worse than <insert name here.>

True. I'd say have a setup lineup and reevaluate in a month.

[UNCBlue012]

At this point, Simmons deserves a shot to bat there. At least he puts the ball in play.

I'm not against this honestly. It could teach him a bit a discipline. I know we tried him there and in the a while back, but I'd try it.

Honestly, I'd like Maybin there for a bit...

[Dalyn]

I'm not against this honestly. It could teach him a bit a discipline. I know we tried him there and in the a while back, but I'd try it.

Honestly, I'd like Maybin there for a bit...

Maybin has a little power. I would go -

Markakis
Maybin
Freeman

[Carp]

A bunch of negative Nancy's! The whole lot of ya!

[Dalyn]

I'm pretty sure we're not going to score 4 runs off their closer again.

[TDlxANDER]

haha Marlins....the pen gives up another run and now you've gotta use Cishek in a non-save situation...

[Dalyn]

Fredi punted this game, and the team answered in kind.

[Braves1976]

Stults over Wandy looking good...

[nsacpi]

I'm pretty sure we're not going to score 4 runs off their closer again.

Say it with more conviction next time.

[nsacpi]

Stults over Wandy looking good...

That did strike me as a bizarre choice.

[NinersSBChamps]

That did strike me as a bizarre choice.

Just add that one to the list.

[Dalyn]

Say it with more conviction next time.

Sorry. I tried. :Sad:

[dak]

Tough couple of days, but 6-3 is a solid start with this roster. I hope Stults and Cahill right the ship so they're not tempted to bring Wisler up before the Super Two cutoff.

Even with what I've seen so far from Stults and Cahill, I still don't think I'd jump in the time machine and keep Wandy over either of them. Perhaps I'll feel differently in a couple weeks. Given we're unlikely to contend, I think it's best to put a premium on durability in order to keep guys like Wisler and Folty at AAA.

[nsacpi]

Sorry. I tried. :Sad:

That kind of attitude was good enough last year. But this year's team has a will to win that is very impressive, and we fans need to adopt a similar attitude. We have to care about winning!

[Tapate50]

Just add that one to the list.

I thought you weren't posting in game threads anymore?

[nsacpi]

He reconsidered after an overwhelming outpouring of support.
I thought you weren't posting in game threads anymore?

[chop2chip]

#realitycheck

[50PoundHead]

Seems like hitting HRs is the least of our problems right now.

[nsacpi]

Actually the excess of home runs indicates that we are deviating from a program that was working.
Seems like hitting HRs is the least of our problems right now.

[Dalyn]

That kind of attitude was good enough last year. But this year's team has a will to win that is very impressive, and we fans need to adopt a similar attitude. We have to care about winning!

I know. I know. I'm a Heyward, and I feel terrible about that. Such a disappointment.

[Julio3000]

Those of us in this thread did not grind out ABs, keep the line moving, or do the little things that it takes to win GDTs.

[chop2chip]

Actually the excess of home runs indicates that we are deviating from a program that was working.
Actually we have been getting a similar amount of singles the last few games they just haven't been clustered together like they were last week. This is just the reality of having weak offensive players.

I don't even think it's an indictment of the approach either. There are players who make contact and don't strike out and there are players who make hard contact and don't strikeout. We don't have many players who consistenly make hard contact.

[gilesfan]

Those of us in this thread did not grind out ABs, keep the line moving, or do the little things that it takes to win GDTs.

yeah, where was thethe to will this team to victory?

[TDlxANDER]

Those of us in this thread did not grind out ABs, keep the line moving, or do the little things that it takes to win GDTs.

It's tough coming to the GDT every day and not knowing if I'll be posting or not.

[50PoundHead]

Those of us in this thread did not grind out ABs, keep the line moving, or do the little things that it takes to win GDTs.

You keep missing signs. I've just about had it with you. I'll put you in the stands in Gwinnett if you don't shape up.

[weso1]

Wouldn't be surprised to see the Wizzinator get a call up in June assuming he puts up some good numbers. Don't really care about Stults/Cahill as they are just place holders.

[50PoundHead]

Wouldn't be surprised to see the Wizzinator get a call up in June assuming he puts up some good numbers. Don't really care about Stults/Cahill as they are just place holders.

This could be a year when we have 20 different guys on the pitching staff (and that's before September call-ups).

[Julio3000]

You keep missing signs. I've just about had it with you. I'll put you in the stands in Gwinnett if you don't shape up.

I thought the plan was to flip me for a prospect at the deadline.

[Julio3000]

It's tough coming to the GDT every day and not knowing if I'll be posting or not.

But you had such a good Spring Training.

[bravesnumberone]

All of you need to quit your bitching and armchair managing.

We're on pace to win 108 game threads.

:fredi:

[nsacpi]

Don't mean to be morbid but a lot of us won't be around in 2017. Turnover is built into these boards. Non-performing posters will be shipped out. No room for sentimentality.

[The Chosen One]

Don't mean to be morbid but a lot of us won't be around in 2017. Turnover is built into these boards. Non-performing posters will be shipped out. No room for sentimentality.

Not to mention rent is due by July 4th, 2015.

I signed a two year lease for this place. I keep getting reminded by godaddy that the lease is set to expire soon.

[nsacpi]

I used to get paid for posting here. But not lately. The handwriting is on the wall.

[Dalyn]

Not to mention rent is due by July 4th, 2015.

I signed a two year lease for this place. I keep getting reminded by godaddy that the lease is set to expire soon.

I'm willing to contribute pictures of my tits. They seem to like that.

[jpx7]

Don't mean to be morbid but a lot of us won't be around in 2017. Turnover is built into these boards. Non-performing posters will be shipped out. No room for sentimentality.

I have doubts if I even love posting here.

[jpx7]

6-156.

Still on track.

[The Chosen One]

I know times look tough, but let's not get derailed here.

This is going to be one of the all-time legendary managerial seasons any of us have ever seen. Fredi is going to lead us to a wild card birth and get rid of our first round woes.

[The Chosen One]

On another note, does anyone know what William Shanks thinks of Fredi?

[thethe]

Going to be tough to win these stults games. Let's get a three game streak going with our top guns.

[CyYoung31]

I'm going to be pissed if this board decides to rebuild after SAV signed me to that huge contract.

[chop2chip]

On another note, does anyone know what William Shanks thinks of Fredi?
He's very critical.

[Julio3000]

Why shouldn't he be? He's got no excuse to lose now that the team has been purged of all of those lazy, shiftless outfielders.

[mossy]

Reality. It was gonna happen.

Heard Crazy Train on the radio today, and it made me miss Chipper even more, knowing how bad our lineup can be now.

[weso1]

Wood, Miller, Teheran and pray for the rain.

[rico43]

Martin and Wisler or Folty will be in the rotation by May. Anybody think that maybe the Braves are doing to one of the young arms what the Cubs are doing with Bryant?