GDT: 7/31/13 Rockies at Braves

[BlackwaterPark]

Go Braves!!!

Heyward 8
J. Upton 9
Freeman 3
Gattis 7
McCann 2
C. Johnson 5
Uggla 4
Simmons 6
Minor 1


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[thethe]

They are really riding Gattis hard. With the right hander on the mound I would love to see Terdo get a start.

[sentenza]

Interesting stat:


54 consecutive at-bats without a strikeout for #Braves Simmons, who last K'd in his first AB of the last game before All-Star break.

[tvsportscaster]

They are really riding Gattis hard. With the right hander on the mound I would love to see Terdo get a start.

That ride will end Saturday when BJ Upton returns from his rehab.

[diamondsyd]

Thought the game thread would be a good place to say hello again, thanks for the invite to the new board. Looks great, maybe I will start posting again.

[Nerfherders]

Washington already crushed by Detroit today. Make it 11!

[JohnAdcox]

They are really riding Gattis hard. With the right hander on the mound I would love to see Terdo get a start.

Agreed. As much of a Gattis fan as I am, I'd love to see him get a break.

[Dalyn]

At least Fredi is stuck in neutral instead of reverse.

[Bye Week]

Man, they Nats blow hard and Gio just ruined my FBB Era this week.

[stpeteirish]

Rockies lineup:

CF Fowler
2b Culberson
LF CarGo
SS Tulo
RF Cuddyer
3B Arenado
1b Helton
C Torrealba
P Chatwood

[GovClintonTyree]

I decided Minor would be great before anyone. I'd like credit.

Also, BJ can kiss my entire white a**. Stay on that rehab assignment until November.

[GovClintonTyree]

Man, they Nats blow hard and Gio just ruined my FBB Era this week.

At least it was a Nat. Beachy wrecked mine. I thought I'd be cute and he'd be in mid season form.

[GovClintonTyree]

Man, they Nats blow hard and Gio just ruined my FBB Era this week.

At least it was a Nat. Beachy wrecked mine. I thought I'd be cute and he'd be in mid season form.

[Bye Week]

I have had Beachy all year as well. I didn't use him though.

[Braves1976]

Interesting stat:

Simmons getting a rest via the All-Star break probably helped him too. He doesn't get hardly any off days given our poor back-up options. Plus you need him in there to protect Uggla and CJ on defense. No one else can do that like he can.

[Dalyn]

PLAY BALL!




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[Dalyn]

Nice throw. Not even close.

[Dalyn]

Good inning.

[Bdawg2309]

If heyward loved baseball, he would've made it to 3rd there

[Dalyn]

Very nice.

[The Chosen One]

Excellent work.

[NinersSBChamps]

Meh start. :)

[parkvadawg]

That didn't take long

[BravesBlock]

Unjinx
Would be nice to get our six runs early so Mike can coast and give our bullpen another night to rest.
Unjinx

[Dalyn]

Not a good at-bat, but at least Upton made it to third.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Productive out

[The Chosen One]

Well that sucked. lol

[Dalyn]

Wow. Not good.

[Bdawg2309]

Unjinx
Would be nice to get our six runs early so Mike can coast and give our bullpen another night to rest.
Unjinx

Unjinx

[Braves1976]

We should've had at least two runs that inning, but at least we got one. The error to start helped.

[NinersSBChamps]

Disappointing we didn't get more than one run.

[Dalyn]

Unjinx
Would be nice to get our six runs early so Mike can coast and give our bullpen another night to rest.
Unjinx


http://i45.tinypic.com/rcm0rp.gif#shake%20head%20gif

[weso1]

When the inning started I was like this :YDS:

When the inning ended I was like this :Gasp:

[Dalyn]

A fine inning.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Outside of the hit to Fowler, Minor looking sharp

[Braves1976]

Mike with a very nice shut down inning. Now let's add to our lead!

[Dalyn]

Damn.

[Dalyn]

Not a strike.

[Dalyn]

Owl! That looked like it hurt.

[CyYoung31]

Way to put the jinx on thick FSN.

[The Chosen One]

Wow.

[Dalyn]

What? No way. :confused:

[Dalyn]

Completely missed.

[anthmilliu]

whiffed

[The Chosen One]

TRON mad. TRON WANT RBI

[Braves1976]

Uggla was safe, that's a terrible call!

[CyYoung31]

Bad call.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Can we please get expanded replay? This is ridiculous

[Five]

LMAO. Way to be in position blue.

[BravesBlock]

Hope the ump makes that up to us. He missed it. And I am sure someone will tell him that replay confirms that the incorrect call was made.

[CrimsonCowboy]

MLB Umpires:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AcBUSVxs82w/TUVJ1O2xdXI/AAAAAAAAlEc/S6S7NO31r-Y/s1600/Mr_Magoo.jpg

[tululush]

Completely unreal how many calls umps miss. It seems like they get worse and worse every year. Yet nothing is done. I honestly think if MLB wanted to generate more revenue they could fire all the umps and go on the honor system. They'd save money and we'd at worse end up with the same results. Ridiculous.

[Braves1976]

That terrible call ruined the whole inning, stole a run and RBI from Simmons. Plus Simmons was at second and Heyward coming up next if not for it. That crap could cost us this game. That is worse than call against Boston that cost them against Tampa Bay recently.

[BravesBlock]

Bet Bobby wished he could have gone to argue that. No one can ever say that he didn't fight for his players.

[bravesnumberone]

Just keep hitting.

[The Chosen One]

Got kinda awkward in the booth with Simpson kind of jabbing at Murph.

[BravesBlock]

The camera angles and slow motion technology that is being used today warrants some additional extended replays. Why not limit the number of requests that can be made by each team's manager and if a decision is not overturned then it will cost the team challenging the call an out. With the guys in the booth instantly looking at the play then the majority of calls would be overturned if challenged and thereby getting the play called correctly which is what all the fans want.

[Dalyn]

Chatwood is making it hard for the ump to screw Heyward.

[BremanFan88]

I really like our leadoff hitter.

[The Chosen One]

I really like our leadoff hitter.

Starting to like April again.

[parkvadawg]

Got a feeling the "I was wrong about Justin" posts will appear in a few weeks.

[The Chosen One]

Like a replay of the first inning.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Freddie Freeman: Certified Beast

[The Chosen One]

Thank goodness Freeman broke out of his slump.

[CyYoung31]

If Freeman was hitting for more power, he might be an MVP candidate.

[Runnin]

Freddie Freeman knows how to use the wood.

[The Chosen One]

Sorry Tulo, but if that were Simmons he gets that, and turns it into a triple play without using force.

[Dalyn]

Simmons doesn't miss that.

[Five]

Gattis reminds me of Sheff for how hard he stings it.

[The Chosen One]

Good lord.

A McCOCKTHRUST!

[mossy]

BOOOOM!!!!!!!!

[Braves1976]

Big Mac!

[CrimsonCowboy]

McCann just went KABOOMMMMMMMMM!

[BremanFan88]

I forgot Laird was even on the team...and that's why...

[Garmel]

That was hit to the moon.

[Bdawg2309]

Pls pay him

[MadduxFanII]

Torrealba seems utterly disgusted by Chatwood.

[Five]

Braves: Stay hot for three more months please. Thanks.

[Krovahn]

I like this, this is fun.

[thethe]

We are an effin force right now.

[weso1]

It looked like he smiled right after he hit it. Thinking to himself, "Oh yeah"

[Runnin]

5 runs and no outs yet.

[CyYoung31]

Sorry Tulo, but if that were Simmons he gets that, and turns it into a triple play without using force.

I'm pretty sure Simmons is amply endowed in the force.


...Wait that didn't really sound right.

[BremanFan88]

http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv257/viperxx79/macboom.jpg

[CrimsonCowboy]

Ho hum. Chris Johnson with another hit

[Dalyn]

Well. There you go.

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/mac2_zps81138550.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/mac2_zps81138550.png.html)

Admire.

[The Chosen One]

Can someone repost the McCann death stare from last night's GDT?

[Braves1976]

BJ can take his time coming back, shoot take another month off BJ. I like this line-up a lot!

[Heyward]

Gonna miss Mac after this year...

[BremanFan88]

I'm pretty sure Simmons is amply endowed in the force.


...Wait that didn't really sound right.

Chris Johnson is a Sith Lord.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Thoughts from the Rockies dugout:

"Uhhhh, can we leave town tonight?"

[bravesnumberone]

Safe to say we're clicking right now.

[parkvadawg]

Need more contact hitters. In all seriousness, is this 28 runs in 2 games and 3 innings?

[Bdawg2309]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/mac2_zps81138550.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/mac2_zps81138550.png.html)

Admire.

Caught 'mirin

[Heyward]

Got a feeling the "I was wrong about Justin" posts will appear in a few weeks.

Was gonna make a thread about him a few days ago.

Worry his lack of homeruns though.

[weso1]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/mac2_zps81138550.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/mac2_zps81138550.png.html)

Admire.

He looks so content.

[Dalyn]

Thoughts from the Rockies dugout:

"Uhhhh, can we leave town tonight?"

"Is it over yet, Harper?"

[weso1]

I Miss Mossy's screencaps... Glad to have them back.

[parkvadawg]

Gonna miss Mac after this year...

While all logic says we shouldn't sign him. I think he's back

[The Chosen One]

Good work Uggla, you've been honoring BJ nicely with his time on the DL.

I think you've cut BJ's team lead in offensive f-bombs in half while he's been on the dl.

[The Chosen One]

Simmons is unbelievable right now.

[Dalyn]

Simmons is a completely different hitter at the bottom of the order. Love it.

[Braves1976]

Gonna miss Mac after this year...

Same here. I sure wish we'd went cheap on centerfield to save money for Mac.

Simmons does it again!

[anthmilliu]

simmons needs to stay there. he has looked great without the pressure up top

[BremanFan88]

Simmons > Tulo

[Runnin]

Rollin rollin rollin
Rollin rollin rollin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRae5mRoRE)

[Heyward]

While all logic says we shouldn't sign him. I think he's back

I don't think we can afford him....

Only way is if he takes a slightly lesser deal to stay. When Mac is right, it's great to watch him, such a great player and person.

[parkvadawg]

Was gonna make a thread about him a few days ago.

Worry his lack of homeruns though.

I am as well. I think he ends with 27. Couple mini spurts

[Dalyn]

Hilarious.

[The Chosen One]

Mike gets by with a little minor help with the bat.

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/risp_zps27e86840.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/risp_zps27e86840.png.html)

[weso1]

Pour it on.

[Five]

So what is Uggla thinking right now?

[CrimsonCowboy]

Like your favorite radio station, the hits just keep on coming

[Krovahn]

Even Mikey wanted to join the offensive fun!

[Heyward]

Same here. I sure wish we'd went cheap on centerfield to save money for Mac.

Simmons does it again!

BJ's deal won't affect Mac.

We can afford Mac but not at 16-20 million per year which he may get elsewhere.

[BremanFan88]

Simmons is a completely different hitter at the bottom of the order. Love it.

It fits his style. Pitchers want to get the 8th place hitter out and Simmons doesn't want to strike out. He's going to get good pitches and make some kind of contact.

[bravesnumberone]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/risp_zps27e86840.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/risp_zps27e86840.png.html)

And that right there is why we're starting to win more consistently. Simple.

[Braves1976]

Minor isn't just an ace pitcher, he can also hit a little bit. Hehe.

[The Chosen One]

Mossy posted this from yesterday's GDT.

I think I have found my new avatar.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/mac_zps46bd34ad.jpg

[The Chosen One]

Minor isn't just an ace pitcher, he can also hit a little bit. Hehe.

Reminds me of some of our aces... back in the day. :icwudt:

[Dalyn]

So what is Uggla thinking right now?

"Owl be okay."

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/tomorrow_zps7b13081a.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/tomorrow_zps7b13081a.png.html)

[BremanFan88]

Reminds me of some of our aces... back in the day. :icwudt:

Babe Ruth?

[BremanFan88]

"Owl be okay."

Everyone should see what was done here.

[Braves1976]

BJ's deal won't affect Mac.

We can afford Mac but not at 16-20 million per year which he may get elsewhere.

Whether it does or not it was a mistake IMO. I am not saying we cannot re-sign Mac. All things considered, I just don't see us doing so at this point.

[bravesnumberone]

So we're facing a AA pitcher tomorrow? That'll be the day we get shut down lol.

[The Chosen One]

Matt Moore on the DL with Elbow soreness for Tampa.

I really hope that's nothing major. Would be a huge blow to their rotation.

[BremanFan88]

Whether it does or not it was a mistake IMO. I am not saying we cannot re-sign Mac. All things considered, I just don't see us doing so at this point.

Hindsight and all that jazz. If BJ goes back to being the player he was before the signing is fine.

[mossy]

BJ would have gotten tossed for that call.

[The Chosen One]

I know it's only the 4th inning but who will be the Autozone player of the game?

[MadduxFanII]

I'm watching this on the Rockies' network. Their announcers are pretty in awe of Freeman. They talk about Freddie like he's Ctulhu.

[JusticeForAll23]

Matt Moore on the DL with Elbow soreness for Tampa.

I really hope that's nothing major. Would be a huge blow to their rotation.
And, more importantly, a huge blow to my fantasy team.

[Braves1976]

Hindsight and all that jazz. If BJ goes back to being the player he was before the signing is fine.

I disagree, we overpayed either way IMO. I don't hate the BJ signing like Matt, but I agree with his main points for most part.

[BremanFan88]

I know it's only the 4th inning but who will be the Autozone player of the game?

Tyler Chatwood.

[Runnin]

When these guys hit this is really an awesome lineup.

[bravesnumberone]

Chatwood should have stuck to basketball.

[BremanFan88]

I disagree, we overpayed either way IMO. I don't hate the BJ signing like Matt, but I agree with his main points for most part.

Overpaid compared to what though? The market sets the value and we paid it. If he has a typical BJ year(s) his contract would of paid for itself.

[Dalyn]

I'm watching this on the Rockies' network. Their announcers are pretty in awe of Freeman. They talk about Freddie like he's Ctulhu.

http://www.cheshirecatstudios.com/reviews/demonbane-anime-lovecraft/cthulhu-demands-spellcheck.jpg

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/minor_zps8d0feb2d.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/minor_zps8d0feb2d.png.html)

[Gary82]

I just got in and see we had a 7 run inning. Evidently, six run innings weren't good enough for this team.

[Braves1976]

BTW, I'd use this big lead as a shot to rest Simmons. Maybe let him finish this inning and one more. But then go to Janish since Simmons doesn't get off days (and is too good to sit given what he brings defensively).

[emk418]

So we're facing a AA pitcher tomorrow? That'll be the day we get shut down lol.

Bettis is actually a few solid pitching prospect.

[MadduxFanII]

Our HP plate ump is officially in blowout mode. In the 4th inning.

[Five]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/minor_zps8d0feb2d.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/minor_zps8d0feb2d.png.html)

Sky's the limit. Very nice.

[Dalyn]

Our HP plate ump is officially in blowout mode. In the 4th inning.

He was there by 5.

[Gary82]

I'm watching this on the Rockies' network. Their announcers are pretty in awe of Freeman. They talk about Freddie like he's Ctulhu.

We'll have to get into a bidding war with the Rockies if we want to keep Freddie when he hits FA.

[Braves1976]

Overpaid compared to what though? The market sets the value and we paid it. If he has a typical BJ year(s) his contract would of paid for itself.

No one else made an offer close to ours, Philly's offer was a lot less according to reports.

[mossy]

Our HP plate ump is officially in blowout mode. In the 4th inning.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/blowout_zpsa15c2e2b.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/blowout_zpsa15c2e2b.png.html)

That there is a classic Atlanta Braves style strikeout.

[CyYoung31]

Sky's the limit. Very nice.

Hmm. Minor is younger than I thought he was. Thought he and Beachy were Medlen's age.

[thewupk]

I see the Braves are whooping ass tonight, again. I wonder if it will be enough to overtake the Cards for top WRC+ in the NL. I have no doubts we will be by the end of the year.

[BremanFan88]

No one else made an offer close to ours, Philly's offer was a lot less according to reports.

Average salary per WAR is 4.5 mill. BJ is typically a 4-5 WAR guy. He got paid what he should have.

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/charlie_zps4631dbec.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/charlie_zps4631dbec.png.html)

Now playing LF

[CyYoung31]

Freeman is living the hug life.

[Braves1976]

I'd also like to see Joey T and Todd Cunningham get to play some later in game. Maybe Constanza too. The AB's could do them all good for pinch hitting later in week.

[CrimsonCowboy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/minor_zps8d0feb2d.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/minor_zps8d0feb2d.png.html)

I'm looking at the future. Someone pass me some shades

[mossy]

A balk when down 8-0 is silly. C'mon blue.

[Dalyn]

We are seeing '08 Brian. Pretty damn nice.

[Five]

A balk when down 8-0 is silly. C'mon blue.

Make up call for the Uggla play at home.

[Dalyn]

That should be a hit.

[The Chosen One]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/minor_zps8d0feb2d.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/minor_zps8d0feb2d.png.html)

Crazy that Medlen is the eldest.

[CyYoung31]

We are seeing '08 Brian. Pretty damn nice.

Yeah. MVP candidate.

[Braves1976]

Average salary per WAR is 4.5 mill. BJ is typically a 4-5 WAR guy. He got paid what he should have.

So I make a point about the market and you switch things up arguing for WAR? OK... This is no different than the Uggla is worth his contract debates. I disagree on both players, esp. considering Atlanta's overall budget.

[BremanFan88]

The Rockies are just making me said now. I love winning but watching a team implode is pathetic.

[BremanFan88]

So I make a point about the market and you switch things up arguing for WAR? OK... This is no different than the Uggla is worth his contract debates. I disagree on both players.

The market set the price per WAR...You only disagree because of hindsight...

[Dalyn]

Johnson is starting to be one of my favorite players. Really fun season from him so far.

[CyYoung31]

So I make a point about the market and you switch things up arguing for WAR? OK... This is no different than the Uggla is worth his contract debates. I disagree on both players, esp. considering Atlanta's overall budget.

How did he switch things up? His point is relevant to the discussion.

[Braves1976]

Now that it's 9-0 I hope Fredi starts resting players.

[Dalyn]

Gattis and Simmons definitely need to rest.

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/delta_zpsd47005ab.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/delta_zpsd47005ab.png.html)

[zitothebrave]

There was some poster, probably a genius in real life, who went on such a rant and rave about Heyward hitting leadoff, and how it was a bad idea to have Simmons leadoff because hitting our worst hitter first is a bad idea. Who was that again?

[bravesnumberone]

By my count, we've outscore opponents 40-14 so far on this homestand.

[Braves1976]

How did he switch things up? His point is relevant to the discussion.

He didn't even acknowledge my point, though he brought up the market demand. He simply ignored it and went on to arguing for WAR value.

[CyYoung31]

There was some poster, probably a genius in real life, who went on such a rant and rave about Heyward hitting leadoff, and how it was a bad idea to have Simmons leadoff because hitting our worst hitter first is a bad idea. Who was that again?

Everyone?

[BremanFan88]

There was some poster, probably a genius in real life, who went on such a rant and rave about Heyward hitting leadoff, and how it was a bad idea to have Simmons leadoff because hitting our worst hitter first is a bad idea. Who was that again?

Padio?

[Dalyn]

There was some poster, probably a genius in real life, who went on such a rant and rave about Heyward hitting leadoff, and how it was a bad idea to have Simmons leadoff because hitting our worst hitter first is a bad idea. Who was that again?


Me. :cooter:

[zitothebrave]

Y'all need to stop hogging my glory.

MY GLORY

[Braves1976]

The market set the price per WAR...You only disagree because of hindsight...

Actually, I was always against the deal. I was also hoping to re-sign Bourn but to a shorter deal.

[weso1]

Interesting fact... My brother hit a HR in high school against Todd Helton.

[Braves1976]

Minor pitching great again.

[The Chosen One]

Y'all need to stop hogging my glory.

MY GLORY

Even if you aren't a sabermetric genius and use OBP and whatever... the fact that Simmons average was under .240 would make ANYBODY scream put anybody else on the leadoff spot.

I think even the regular fans who don't use advanced stats, would have said put CJ at the leadoff spot because his average was so high.

[BremanFan88]

He didn't even acknowledge my point, though he brought up the market demand. He simply ignored it and went on to arguing for WAR value.

Your point is that BJ was overpaid. Based on typical production he was actually UNDERPAID. Of course you can not like that he got the contract and that I would understand but to say that he was overpaid is simply false. He got a typical market value contract because contracts are handed out based on future market value. Again hindsight says the first year is going to be an over payment. The next 4 years can easily be and underpayment.

[The Chosen One]

Chips eyes are huge right now. Must be on the peak of the high.

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/flick_zpsaf62678c.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/flick_zpsaf62678c.png.html)

Screen cap this: "I flick on those who didn't vote you into the HOF"

[The Chosen One]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/flick_zpsaf62678c.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/flick_zpsaf62678c.png.html)

Screen cap this: "I flick on those who didn't vote you into the HOF"

Chip: I need more cocaine for this.

[BremanFan88]

Actually, I was always against the deal. I was also hoping to re-sign Bourn but to a shorter deal.

And to me that's a perfectly fair thing to say. But it made more sense to sign BJ at the time and the Braves can still get very good value from his contract in the future.

[zitothebrave]

Even if you aren't a sabermetric genius and use OBP and whatever... the fact that Simmons average was under .240 would make ANYBODY scream put anybody else on the leadoff spot.

I think even the regular fans who don't use advanced stats, would have said put CJ at the leadoff spot because his average was so high.

I was against Simmons hitting leadoff before the season started.

You don't have to to call me a genius, just acknowledge how right I was.

[Heyward]

There was some poster, probably a genius in real life, who went on such a rant and rave about Heyward hitting leadoff, and how it was a bad idea to have Simmons leadoff because hitting our worst hitter first is a bad idea. Who was that again?

<<<

[BremanFan88]

Chips eyes are huge right now. Must be on the peak of the high.

Jealous?

[CyYoung31]

Mossy, can you get a screen cap of the Waffle House rally cap? I could see it being useful in the future.

[mossy]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/food_zps6b4e63d8.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/food_zps6b4e63d8.png.html)

[The Chosen One]

Bad Simmons. Bad boy.

[cajunrevenge]

When was the last time we fielded a lineup with 6 hitters with a .250 or better batting average?

[Dalyn]

Heyward is making a habit of that.

[VirginiaBrave]

Our DH has done a real good job tonight too. An RBI. What's that you say? He's winning as the pitcher too? But the NL needs the DH... Just having some fun, guys...:happy0157:

[Braves1976]

Your point is that BJ was overpaid. Based on typical production he was actually UNDERPAID. Of course you can not like that he got the contract and that I would understand but to say that he was overpaid is simply false. He got a typical market value contract because contracts are handed out based on future market value. Again hindsight says the first year is going to be an over payment. The next 4 years can easily be and underpayment.

Again, we can make the same argument based on Uggla's contract. Would you also defend it? Just trying to see how consistent you'll be here. Further, my point regarding the free agent market isn't less valid. BJ didn't have offers anywhere near ours, so Wren basically bid against himself just like he has in the past (namely the Lowe signing). In fact, Wren's arguments for doing so for Lowe and BJ were basically the same. I am not saying this to bash Wren, I just don't see this as one of his strengths (Wren is much better at trades, etc).

[The Chosen One]

Heyward

[mossy]

Mossy, can you get a screen cap of the Waffle House rally cap? I could see it being useful in the future.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/JamieSanders/rally_zpsffc85d58.png (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/JamieSanders/media/rally_zpsffc85d58.png.html)

[Dalyn]

Again, we can make the same argument based on Uggla's contract. Would you also defend it? Just trying to see how consistent you'll be here. Further, my point regarding the free agent market isn't less valid. BJ didn't have offers anywhere near ours, so Wren basically bid against himself just like he has in the past (namely the Lowe signing). In fact, Wren's arguments for doing so for Lowe and BJ were basically the same. I am not saying this to bash Wren, I just don't see this as one of his strengths (Wren is much better at trades, etc).


You guys should take this to the Bryce Harper Quote thread.

[BremanFan88]

On base percentage should reflect how many times you actually get on base. Is that out of line?

[Dalyn]

On base percentage should reflect how many times you actually get on base. Is that out of line?

Absolutely. Even errors are often made because of the hitter's speed. That should count for something.

[mossy]

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[BremanFan88]

Again, we can make the same argument based on Uggla's contract. Would you also defend it? Just trying to see how consistent you'll be here. Further, my point regarding the free agent market isn't less valid. BJ didn't have offers anywhere near ours, so Wren basically bid against himself just like he has in the past (namely the Lowe signing). In fact, Wren's arguments for doing so for Lowe and BJ were basically the same. I am not saying this to bash Wren, I just don't see this as one of his strengths (Wren is much better at trades, etc).

Why wouldn't I defend it? If Uggla has typical Uggla years his contract is fine. You can't say a GM shouldn't sign a guy after the player gets signed and fails to play like he's capable of. It happens. Unless you can tell the future it's something all GM's experience. You can say he bid against himself but at the end of the day it was a perfectly fine contract and wasn't close to an overpay unless you knew exactly that BJ was going to struggle so much.

Fun fact about Dan Uggla: His first two years we got the appropriate value out of him based on his salary.

[mossy]

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[mossy]

Gotta step out, be back in a bit.

[Dalyn]

Nice play.

[parkvadawg]

Fun game. Good guys doing what good guys do. Very impressive stretch.

[BremanFan88]

Did Mac ever say why he went back to the old mask?

[bravesnumberone]

LOL Chip.

[Braves1976]

Why wouldn't I defend it? If Uggla has typical Uggla years his contract is fine. You can't say a GM shouldn't sign a guy after the player gets signed and fails to play like he's capable of. It happens. Unless you can tell the future it's something all GM's experience. You can say he bid against himself but at the end of the day it was a perfectly fine contract and wasn't close to an overpay unless you knew exactly that BJ was going to struggle so much.

I'll give you credit for being consistent, but I think you understand my arguments too. I don't think we're enough like Tampa Bay, who IMO does it best. Given our budget, I don't think we can afford to make such mistakes unlike some big budget teams. Plus we could've no doubt spent the money better elsewhere.

[Dalyn]

Run for him.

[BremanFan88]

Freddie would like a Rockies pitcher to actually impress him one of these days...

[Dalyn]

What is going on with that great SS out there?

[Braves1976]

Did Mac ever say why he went back to the old mask?

The other one was damaged on a foul ball I think. I remember it chipping on the side and him removing it the next inning.

[BremanFan88]

I'll give you credit for being consistent, but I think you understand my arguments too. I don't think we're enough like Tampa Bay, who IMO does it best. Given our budget, I don't think we can afford to make such mistakes unlike some big budget teams. Plus we could've no doubt spent the money better elsewhere.

Well according to the sites that keep up with the salary/production ratio. The Braves are one of the leaders in getting the most bang for their buck even with BJ's struggles.

[BremanFan88]

The other one was damaged on a foul ball I think. I remember it chipping on the side and him removing it the next inning.

Good. I hate that mask.

[Braves1976]

Why not run for both Freeman and Gattis here? Or at least one of them? Let the kid Cunningham or Joey T play. Let Janish finish at short too. We don't have any off days till after Philly and Nats series.

[Dalyn]

Why not run for both Freeman and Gattis here? Or at least one of them? Let the kid Cunningham or Joey T play. Let Janish finish at short too. We don't have any off days till after Philly and Nats series.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4775433497018874&pid=15.1

[Dalyn]

Owl.

[BremanFan88]

TP would of made that play.

[Dalyn]

Wrong coach, Dan.

[Dalyn]

Good boy. You can do it.


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[BremanFan88]

Good boy. You can do it.


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I lol'd.

[Dalyn]

http://scoutingsantee.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/img_2753.jpg

[Dalyn]

Can't believe everyone is still out there. Fredi knows we are not on the road, right?

[BremanFan88]

http://scoutingsantee.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/img_2753.jpg

I'm quoting just to break the page more.

[Dalyn]

Sorry.

[BremanFan88]

I heard something about Jason making good adjustments on balls...

[The Chosen One]

Sometimes I feel happy that Dayton Moore left us and that JS stepped down.

I feel like the philosophical way to build a team and construct your minor league system the way Dayton and JS thought of was dying and that Wren and Demacio were fresh minds at the right time to step in.

I think about how many pitchers developed under JS and Dayton's regime the last few years he was there. Davies failed, Ramirez failed, Moss failed, Lerew, etc.

Wren's team has really done well in picking bullpen candidates AND starting guys.

[BlackwaterPark]

Poor owl :(

[BremanFan88]

Rub some dirt on it you vagina.

[Braves1976]

Simmons says to ump: "You deserve that for stealing my RBI hit earlier." Hehe.

Seriously, I am just glad Simmons wasn't hurt. Though he shouldn't even be in the game given the lead, etc. Simmons is the one player we cannot afford to lose.

[BlackwaterPark]

I bet he broke his arm. His hand was just shaking

[Dalyn]

Yeah. Pretty sure it broke.

[TURBO]

sorry I missed most of this game. But im here and a little drunk

[weso1]

sorry I missed most of this game. But im here and a little drunk

I hope you make the most of this opportunity.

[bravesnumberone]

Storm here has been playing with my Internet. That looked like it really hurt.

[BremanFan88]

Storm here has been playing with my Internet. That looked like it really hurt.

Hannah Storm?

[The Chosen One]

Can someone refresh my memory of who the starter was that was upset Bobby took him out of the game that when he sat on the bench and Bobby came over to shake his hand he turned it down?

[The Chosen One]

Is Simmons getting the night off? He's sitting on the bench.

[Braves1976]

OK now Fredi takes Simmons out. Good.

[BremanFan88]

Can someone refresh my memory of who the starter was that was upset Bobby took him out of the game that when he sat on the bench and Bobby came over to shake his hand he turned it down?

Jason Heyward.

[The Chosen One]

Jason Heyward.
:YDS:

[BlackwaterPark]

BJ 0-3 tonight lol

[The Chosen One]

lol Heyward on base again without a hit.

[Pugfan]

Dayton Moore is a horrible GM. The guy loves to collect all the braves busts and when was the last time the royals developed a good pitcher? Wren on the other hand is an elite GM now. Lets hope he doesn't go full retard like sherholtz did in his last two years,

[BlackwaterPark]

Hell ya Justin!

[buck7580]

Glad that Justin is hittingl better.

[The Chosen One]

Dayton Moore is a horrible GM. The guy loves to collect all the braves busts and when was the last time the royals developed a good pitcher? Wren on the other hand is an elite GM now. Lets hope he doesn't go full retard like sherholtz did in his last two years,

I remember when Shanks and a few were saying Dayton's leaving was a HUGE loss for us down the road and that our farm was not going to be that good anymore.

Boy have DeMacio and Wren changed the tune on that.