GDT 4/25: ATL @ PHI

[dak]

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[Dalyn]

MARKAKIS

[dak]

I like Nick at the top of the order. I don't think it's likely Bethancourt will be going to AAA.

@mlbbowman
Fredi said he plans to stick with Markakis in the leadoff spot for a while, at least against all RHPs

@mlbbowman
Bethancourt will start tomorrow. If A.J. continues to get a majority of the starts, might be best for CBeth to play regularly w/ Gwinnett

[Dalyn]

Markakis at the top was obvious from the beginning. I guess we should be thankful Fredi figured it out in a month.

[thewupk]

Will we score 3 runs tonight?

[skillet]

Will we score 3 runs tonight?

I'll take the under

[chop2chip]

Will we score 3 runs tonight?I will take the over.

Hater.

[Braves1976]

I like Nick at the top of the order. I don't think it's likely Bethancourt will be going to AAA.

@mlbbowman
Fredi said he plans to stick with Markakis in the leadoff spot for a while, at least against all RHPs

@mlbbowman
Bethancourt will start tomorrow. If A.J. continues to get a majority of the starts, might be best for CBeth to play regularly w/ Gwinnett

I hate the way kids like Bethancourt and Peterson are being treated. I also don't like how Maybin is starting mostly vs lefties given he hits righties better for his career. There is no way we'll find out what Peterson and Bethancourt can do by sitting them and moving them around the line-up so much. There's little shot Maybin improves his value by starting more vs lefties. And while I don't expect Bethancourt to hit much his catching skills are a lot better than what AJ brings. Plus no consistency in the line-up whatsoever is ridiculous. Fredi puts a different line-up out every game.

[Julio3000]

Over. AJ, Simmons, and leadoff Markakis will show us the way.

[Braves1976]

This kid pitching for Philly is pretty bad, so we should be able to score some runs tonight.

[thewupk]

not the best start

[thewupk]

This kid pitching for Philly is pretty bad, so we should be able to score some runs tonight.

So are the Braves. Will be interesting to see which sucks less.

[MadduxFanII]

Why is Markakis hitting lead-off? I was told that EY represented our first true leadoff hitter in years, that his speed and general leadoffyness would add an exciting new dynamic to our lineup.

[Braves1976]

So are the Braves. Will be interesting to see which sucks less.

If Philly hits like last night it shouldn't take many runs. Then again we don't need more errors, Simmons just made his first rushing that throw.

[thewupk]

errors are fun

[thewupk]

Why is Markakis hitting lead-off? I was told that EY represented our first true leadoff hitter in years, that his speed and general leadoffyness would add an exciting new dynamic to our lineup.

I don't understand either. The FO made it known all off-season and spring that we needed a speed first leadoff hitter.

[Braves1976]

Why is Markakis hitting lead-off? I was told that EY represented our first true leadoff hitter in years, that his speed and general leadoffyness would add an exciting new dynamic to our lineup.

I guess that .150 or so batting average wasn't as impressive as what BJ Upton brought us. :)

[Braves1976]

Philly must be mad they won last night, they're even having Frenchy bat clean-up vs a righty tonight. If you're gonna tank do it right! No halfway bullcrap. :)

[Braves1976]

The Braves response was to start Gomes vs the righty while admitting that they cannot top batting Frenchy clean-up vs a righty. :)

[Braves1976]

Way to make a bad pitcher look good boys...

[skillet]

Damn our offense is bad. We are making this scrub look like Koufax.

[thewupk]

16 pitches...the braves way

[Braves1976]

16 pitches...the braves way

Buchanan says I haven't even broke a sweat yet, this is fun! :)

[Julio3000]

This is shaping up to be a hell of a battle for fourth place.

[Braves1976]

This is shaping up to be a hell of a battle for fourth place.

No way we can finish below Philly, how do we top Frenchy batting clean-up vs righties? That's just a brilliant tank job idea there. :)

[Braves1976]

EY Jr. needs to take bunting lessons from Mallex Smith, lol.

[Garmel]

This Braves offense is about as exciting as watching two flies ****.

[Julio3000]

No way we can finish below Philly, how do we top Frenchy batting clean-up vs righties? That's just a brilliant tank job idea there. :)

Maybe we can get him for a prospect at the deadline.

[Braves1976]

This Braves offense is about as exciting as watching two flies ****.

Hey now, this isn't like last year. Last year was boring after April. This year is boring and April isn't finished yet! :)

[dak]

I think we'll score a couple on this guy second time through the order.

[Braves1976]

Maybe we can get him for a prospect at the deadline.

Good idea, bring the golden boy home to tank in style. Number one draft pick here we come! :)

[Braves1976]

I think we'll score a couple on this guy second time through the order.

I thought we'd beat up on him already after watching his last start. Maybe we need to tell the boys his name is Latos? :)

[Dalyn]

Good at-bat.

[NinersSBChamps]

errors are fun

Much more fun than getting hits.

[thewupk]

this team is fun to watch

[Braves1976]

We're getting no hit by a crappy pitcher through four innings. Are y'all not entertained?!

[thewupk]

We're getting no hit by a crappy pitcher through four innings. Are y'all not entertained?!

Actually that is fun in a different way

[MadduxFanII]

I hate(d) the contract, but give Markakis credit: dude can craft a professional at-bat.

[Braves1976]

Are Chip and Joe going to parrot Fredi all night? If they want to suck his thing I wish they'd do it on their own time.

[chop2chip]

Man... Shelby looks like a keeper.

[Braves1976]

Actually that is fun in a different way

Fair enough. :)

[thewupk]

See. Markakis is the best RFer in baseball with that errorless game streak. And Francoeur would likely be our 3rd best hitter. Pretty sad.

[Braves1976]

Man... Shelby looks like a keeper.

Jinx? :)

[chop2chip]

Man... Shelby looks like a keeper.
Maybe we can trade him for a top 50 prospect at the deadline.

[thewupk]

Oh Howard

[chop2chip]

Jinx? :)
100%

[Braves1976]

The Braves way: The best comedy in MLB! :)

[NinersSBChamps]

This is fun. Just reading some of these comments.

You guys crack me up.

[Braves1976]

This is fun. Just reading some of these comments.

You guys crack me up.

Cool, we'll be here all week. :)

Looky here boys, the no hitter is broken!

[NinersSBChamps]

Cool, we'll be here all week. :)

Looky here boys, the no hitter is broken!
Need an error now. Can't be even with hits.

[atl717]

Our offense is pathetic. Definitely worse than last year.

[Braves1976]

Man, Peterson cannot buy a break. He had that happen a lot the other day too. Hit well but right at 'em. Plus hard to get going sitting and being move around so much.

[NinersSBChamps]

Our offense is pathetic. Definitely worse than last year.

Well yeah. That was expected though.

Only player we have that can hit is NMark22. Freddie is pouting.

[Prikichi]

Harang and Laird were probably instrumental into getting us that cheesesteak championship

[Braves1976]

Harang and Laird were probably instrumental into getting us that cheesesteak championship

No doubt, why do you think Harang signed here? :)

[chop2chip]

Well yeah. That was expected though.

Only player we have that can hit is NMark22. Freddie is pouting.
Oh look who came crawling back.

[Braves1976]

Did y'all see that great throw by AJ? It was so fast you couldn't even see the ball come out of his hand. :)

[chop2chip]

AJ is the best

[Braves1976]

Nice AB by EY Jr. there, way to work the count man! :)

[Dalyn]

ANOTHER good at-bat.

[dak]

I think we'll score a couple on this guy second time through the order.

Welp.

[Garmel]

We're not hitting well and when we do hit the ball hard it finds a glove. This is frustrating as hell.

[NinersSBChamps]

We're not hitting well and when we do hit the ball hard it finds a glove. This is frustrating as hell.

This is the Braves way.

[Garmel]

We got a run!

[Braves1976]

Buchanan running out of gas, we could've had back-to-back homers there.

[dak]

Would like to see CJ pinch hit here.

[Garmel]

It's raining fishdicks!

[Dalyn]

FISH DICKS!

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[WaitingFor2017]

I let Shelby hit since he is rolling tonight and could easily give you 8. Instead, the Braves go back to the tired bullpen for at least 3 innings.

The move to add 2 more runs didn't pay off as Phil K's.

[dak]

It's raining fishdicks!

I'm not sure what this means, but I think you may be right.

[Hawk]

Phil Gosselin is ****ing worthless.

[Oklahomabrave]

Why was Miller pulled he only had 71 pitches and our bullpen has been way overworked?!

[smootness]

Awful decision by Fredi.

[dak]

Third strike call against Goose pretty dog done terrible.

[Braves1976]

Phil Gosselin is ****ing worthless.

I wish they'd send him down and call up someone that can hit.

[dak]

How did he make that tag? Or did he?

[Hawk]

Damn good throw.

[Garmel]

We got him.

[chop2chip]

Why was Miller pulled he only had 71 pitches and our bullpen has been way overworked?!
He's a moron. This is the worst decision of the season.


He's managing this game like its a game 7.

[Braves1976]

How did he make that tag? Or did he?

He got him, great tag by KJ there. Nice throw too.

[Hawk]

I think he may have been safe.

[Braves1976]

He's a moron. This is the worst decision of the season.


He's managing this game like its a game 7.

If Cahill has issues tomorrow afternoon that is where not leaving in Miller will hurt even more.

[Braves1976]

I think he may have been safe.

Given the angle it was too close to overturn and was a great tag regardless.

[smootness]

He's a moron. This is the worst decision of the season.


He's managing this game like its a game 7.

Even still, it would be the wrong decision. Miller is dealing and our pen is garbage. Also, Gosselin has a marginally better chance at a hit than Miller.

[chop2chip]

If Cahill has issues tomorrow afternoon that is where not leaving in Miller will hurt even more.If Shelby had 71 pitches in the 6th inning and it's the exact same situation, then Fredi would let him hit.

#thebook

[thethe]

Freddi just gets worse and worse as a manager. He is managing for his job which is the last thing you want in year 1 of a massive rebuild.

[Hawk]

I wish they'd send him down and call up someone that can hit.

It's a shame there aren't any real utility options in the system outside of Ciriaco.

[keithlaw]

I guess its time for bed now that Miller time is over

[Dalyn]

I need Markakis to get a hit here.

[Garmel]

I hope Jim Johnson doesn't come out for the 8th.

[Braves1976]

Even still, it would be the wrong decision. Miller is dealing and our pen is garbage. Also, Gosselin has a marginally better chance at a hit than Miller.

Fredi said our bullpen isn't taxed. You disagree huh? I'll show you taxed! :)

[Julio3000]

Freddi just gets worse and worse as a manager. He is managing for his job which is the last thing you want in year 1 of a massive rebuild.

I'm really hoping it's just part of a subtle tanking strategy.

[thethe]

Markakis is just a good hitter. Better than I even thought.

[Dalyn]

:tchop:

[chop2chip]

It's a shame there aren't any real utility options in the system outsize of Ciriaco.isnt this what Callaspo is for?

[thethe]

I'm really hoping it's just part of a subtle tanking strategy.

I suppose the Braves would win more games with another mamager. Well done John^2

[Dalyn]

Marakos is just a good hitter. Better than I even thought.

Too bad about his lack of power, cause he really seems to know how to hit.

[thethe]

Too bad about his lack of power, cause he really seems to know how to hit.

If he had power he would have gotten 20 per year

[buck75]

Possibly bring up Peraza, Cedric Hunter and Adonis Garcia & demote or cut EY, KJ & Gosselin. Let Jace be utility IF.

[Dalyn]

I hope Jim Johnson doesn't come out for the 8th.

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[Dalyn]

If he had power he would have gotten 20 per year

:HeywardWut:

[Hawk]

WHY THE **** IS LONG JOHN JOHNSON WARMING UP

[Julio3000]

Over. AJ, Simmons, and leadoff Markakis will show us the way.

Ahem.

[thethe]

I love that AJ is hitting but I hate that CB isn't getting time.

[Julio3000]

WHY THE **** IS LONG JOHN JOHNSON WARMING UP

I hear can go more than one inning.

[Garmel]

WHY THE **** IS LONG JOHN JOHNSON WARMING UP

Oh, no!

[Braves1976]

It's a shame there aren't any real utility options in the system outside of Ciriaco.

We don't really need another to back-up shortstop, esp. the way Fredi is using Peterson. So outside of Ciriaco you have options like Garcia (Cuban that is doing well in AAA and can play infield and outfield). Plus my boy Hunter can play all outfield positions and leads the G-Braves in OPS. So you have both infield and outfield options that can hit to replace Gosselin. I'd also prefer Perez in a platoon with Maybin in CF than having EY Jr. too.

[buck75]

Let's say the Braves fire Gonzalez on July 1. Who should be the interim manager? Who should be hired as the long-term manager?

[chop2chip]

No problem guys Shelby is only at 85 pitches and is pitching well. He can take the 8th and Grilli can pitch the 9th.

[keithlaw]

WHY THE **** IS LONG JOHN JOHNSON WARMING UP

At his age, whenever you can get him up, you gotta use him

[Dalyn]

WHY THE **** IS LONG JOHN JOHNSON WARMING UP

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[smootness]

Fredi said our bullpen isn't taxed. You disagree huh? I'll show you taxed! :)

Yeah, and my concern isn't even with how rested and fresh they are. It's that I trust Miller far more than basically everybody in the pen right now.

[chop2chip]

Let's say the Braves fire Gonzalez on July 1. Who should be the interim manager? Who should be hired as the long-term manager?

I'll say,

Bo Porter interim.

Bud Black long term.

[Dalyn]

Let's say the Braves fire Gonzalez on July 1. Who should be the interim manager?

Porter.

[Dalyn]

Who should be hired as the long-term manager?

Pierzynski.

[Garmel]

Another run. We might be making this game Jim Johnson-proof.

[NinersSBChamps]

Porter.

I read this really quickly and thought is said Proctor.

[keithlaw]

Another run. We might be making this game Jim Johnson-proof.

Unpossible

[TURBO]

Chipper for manager or hitting coach 2017

[NinersSBChamps]

Offensive http://media3.giphy.com/media/DMJAA0cyT6Eus/giphy.gif

[Braves1976]

I read this really quickly and thought is said Proctor.

Proctor would give the boys a lot of confidence before games if he threw them batting practice. But then you'd have Simmons thinking homerun every AB again. :)

[TDlxANDER]

Another run. We might be making this game Jim Johnson-proof.

Big Jim about to make this thing save-proof

[keithlaw]

Proctor would give the boys a lot of confidence before games if he threw them batting practice. But then you'd have Simmons thinking homerun every AB again. :)

Just don't let him coach them on baserunning

[Garmel]

Johnson threw another flat pitch for a hit.

[Braves1976]

Just don't let him coach them on baserunning

Who needs baserunning if you pay off the umpire like we did that night! :)

[Dalyn]

Another run. We might be making this game Jim Johnson-proof.

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[Hawk]

****ing Long John.

[TDlxANDER]

This is what kills me with Fredi...well, one of the things. He will give up on young guys too quickly and stick with old guys too long. No way Jimmy J deserves the 8th.

[Braves1976]

Whew, if that wasn't right at him...

[Dalyn]

I feel a Francoeur HR here.

[dak]

I thought Johnson looked worse tonight than his past couple outings where he yielded critical runs.

He makes some really nice pitches, but seems like he rarely gets through an AB without making one marginal / bad pitch.

[Garmel]

Johnson escaped. However, his sinker is still flat.

[Braves1976]

Johnson survived that inning but he looked bad again IMO.

[Dalyn]

I thought Johnson looked worse tonight than his past couple outings where he yielded critical runs.

He makes some really nice pitches, but seems like he rarely gets through an AB without making one marginal / bad pitch.

He has the mental fortitude of a dollop of mayonnaise.

[CyYoung31]

I wonder if Johnson may be hurt. It's hard to perform when you're in pain.

[Dalyn]

I wonder if Johnson may be hurt. It's hard to perform when you're in pain.

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[Braves1976]

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Teheran said eating the baseball make knee feel better. :)

[thethe]

Nick is going to be a real good brave.

[Dalyn]

Nick is going to be a real good brave.

Hopefully in 2015, and a real good ________ in 2016.

[CrimsonCowboy]

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[TURBO]

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[50PoundHead]

Unpossible

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[Dalyn]

If Grilli keeps this up, I hope we're smart enough to trade him at the deadline.

[Hawk]

We're off the schneid, boys.

[Dalyn]

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[mossy]

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[Julio3000]

Hell of a good game, other than the early lack of hitting.

[Garmel]

We need to keep the batting order the same. This was Fredi's best lineup of the year.

[thewupk]

Is it too much to ask for Simmons to be the 270/310/430 guy that he currently is right now? That offense with his D makes him a top 10 player in baseball

[CyYoung31]

Is it too much to ask for Simmons to be the 270/310/430 guy that he currently is right now? That offense with his D makes him a top 10 player in baseball

No. The guy clearly has hitting talent, he's just got to harness it.

[thewupk]

No. The guy clearly has hitting talent, he's just got to harness it.

Yeah. It would make this rebuild a lot easier if he could just be an average to above average hitter.

[nsacpi]

Simmons will be the main reason we won't have a protected pick after this season.

[gilesfan]

Is it too much to ask for Simmons to be the 270/310/430 guy that he currently is right now? That offense with his D makes him a top 10 player in baseball

That would not not make him a top 10 guy

[Hawk]

Is it too much to ask for Simmons to be the 270/310/430 guy that he currently is right now? That offense with his D makes him a top 10 player in baseball

Then we could flip the **** out of him.

[Tapate50]

Simmons will be the main reason we won't have a protected pick after this season.

If he puts it all together, I couldn't care less

[Hawk]

@DOBrienAJC: #Braves Fredi: "Too bad tomorrow’s a day game or it might’ve been 1st time we go back-to-back with the same lineup.... (1/2)

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*dies*

[gilesfan]

Then we could flip the **** out of him.

Top 50 prospect, AMIrITE?

[gilesfan]

@DOBrienAJC: #Braves Fredi: "Too bad tomorrow’s a day game or it might’ve been 1st time we go back-to-back with the same lineup.... (1/2)

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*dies*

Please tell me not an actual quote

[weso1]

Please tell me not an actual quote

I was looking for the millwood screen name.

[thewupk]

That would not not make him a top 10 guy

That would make him a high 6 WAR player which generally will crack the top 10 for position players

[gilesfan]

That would make him a high 6 WAR player which generally will crack the top 10 for position players

Right not not top 10

[thewupk]

Right not not top 10

Still good enough to be better than anyone on the Nationals

[chop2chip]

@DOBrienAJC: #Braves Fredi: "Too bad tomorrow’s a day game or it might’ve been 1st time we go back-to-back with the same lineup.... (1/2)

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*dies*

@DOBrienAJC: more #Braves Fredi: "... But I think we’re going to give Pierzynski a day off tomorrow. We don't want to run him into the ground."

Looks like it just means Beth replaces AJ.

Hopefully he keeps the top 3 the same.

[gilesfan]

Still good enough to be better than anyone on the Nationals

Kewl?

[thewupk]

Kewl?

I know your mad that when Simmons is any kind of non ****ty hitter that he's a top 10 position guy.

[Hawk]

Mark Bowman
@mlbbowman
Fredi indicated he's going back to his initial plan to utilize Jace Peterson as his primary second baseman.

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Thank the Lord.

[dak]

Mark Bowman
@mlbbowman
Fredi indicated he's going back to his initial plan to utilize Jace Peterson as his primary second baseman.

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Thank the Lord.

Nice! I'm starting to wonder if Fredi got called into the principal's office yesterday.

[weso1]

Mark Bowman
@mlbbowman
Fredi indicated he's going back to his initial plan to utilize Jace Peterson as his primary second baseman.

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Thank the Lord.

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[weso1]

Nice! I'm starting to wonder if Fredi got called into the principal's office yesterday.

I was thinking the same thing. I wondered if maybe Hart would ask (tell) him to just go with the rookie to see what he's got. It's not like Callaspo was doing much anyway.

[Dalyn]

I was thinking the same thing. I wondered if maybe Hart would ask (tell) him to just go with the rookie to see what he's got. It's not like Callaspo was doing much anyway.

Yeah. At least Asshole is playing well enough to get traded if it continues. That said, if Bethancourt is going to be the backup for the first half, I would rather see him get sent down.

[nsacpi]

Bethancourt had a .308 OBP in AAA and .274 in the majors last year. To me this indicated he needed more time in the minors. All we're doing right now is burning service time for a player who could be valuable down the line. And we're burning service time in a season the front office decided to punt. For similar reasons I hope we don't call up Peraza, Wisler or any of our more valuable prospects.

[Dalyn]

Bethancourt had a .308 OBP in AAA and .274 in the majors last year. To me this indicated he needed more time in the minors. All we're doing right now is burning service time for a player who could be valuable down the line. And we're burning service time in a season the front office decided to punt. For similar reasons I hope we don't call up Peraza, Wisler or any of our more valuable prospects.

Exactly.

[weso1]

Bethancourt had a .308 OPS in AAA and .274 in the majors last year. To me this indicated he needed more time in the minors. All we're doing right now is burning service time for a player who could be valuable down the line. And we're burning service time in a season the front office decided to punt.

At this point I think you have to think his absolute ceiling as a hitter is JP Arencibia. I get that he's got some skills defensively, but I don't see how that separates him from say a guy like Henry Blanco. Blanco of course was almost exclusively a back up catcher. I would get upset at Fredi for not playing Bethancourt, but it's really difficult for me to care. I just don't have much confidence that kid is ever going to hit.

[keithlaw]

At this point I think you have to think his absolute ceiling as a hitter is JP Arencibia. I get that he's got some skills defensively, but I don't see how that separates him from say a guy like Henry Blanco. Blanco of course was almost exclusively a back up catcher. I would get upset at Fredi for not playing Bethancourt, but it's really difficult for me to care. I just don't have much confidence that kid is ever going to hit.

He's got the tools to be way better offensively than Arencibia, but it sounds like he's got some growing up to do before he can reach that potential. Hopefully he doesn't turn into the next Frenchy.

[dak]

Bethancourt had a .308 OBP in AAA and .274 in the majors last year. To me this indicated he needed more time in the minors. All we're doing right now is burning service time for a player who could be valuable down the line. And we're burning service time in a season the front office decided to punt. For similar reasons I hope we don't call up Peraza, Wisler or any of our more valuable prospects.

It's a tough call on Bethancourt, but I'd prefer we don't burn his last option year. He came into the year w/ 72 service days, so we'd need to keep him down for 2-3 months in order to impact his service clock. I think it's unlikely that Pierzynski can stay healthy and effective that long, so not worth the gamble since it costs you his last option.

[weso1]

He's got the tools to be way better offensively than Arencibia, but it sounds like he's got some growing up to do before he can reach that potential. Hopefully he doesn't turn into the next Frenchy.

I'm not sure what tools you see keith, but you are the expert. Still, I see a guy with similar minor league numbers to that of Arencibia, but not as much pop. A guy that swings at everything but still strikes out quite a bit.

[nsacpi]

What are we saving his last option for. By next season he'll be better and hopefully we'll have a slightly more competitive team.

[dak]

What are we saving his last option for. By next season he'll be better and hopefully we'll have a slightly more competitive team.

I'm not sold on Bethancourt as a primary catcher. Keeping the option year provides flexibility next year or beyond when we're more competitive.

[rico43]

Mark Bowman
@mlbbowman
Fredi indicated he's going back to his initial plan to utilize Jace Peterson as his primary second baseman.

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Thank the Lord.

Somebody had a "come to Jesus" meeting, it seems. You know, Fredi might be a halfway acceptable manager if Hart keeps him under his thumb.

[VirginiaBrave]

Bethancourt had a .308 OBP in AAA and .274 in the majors last year. To me this indicated he needed more time in the minors. All we're doing right now is burning service time for a player who could be valuable down the line. And we're burning service time in a season the front office decided to punt. For similar reasons I hope we don't call up Peraza, Wisler or any of our more valuable prospects.

We burned ourselves with Heyward as far as service time. We could have had him another year if we had just held back a couple weeks. They were talking about that in relation to the Kris Bryant/Cubs situation on MLB last month. I would hope lessons were learned.