GDT 4/30/15 ATL vs CIN

[Julio3000]

Miller vs. Leake

Markakis RF
Simmons SS
Freeman 1B
KJ LF
CJ 3B
Bethancourt c
Peterson 2B
EY CF
Miller P

Redlegs
Hamilton CF
Cozart SS
Votto 1B
Frazier 3B
Bruce RF
Byrd LF
Schumaker 2B
Barnhart C
Leake P`

[keithlaw]

Its Miller time

[Julio3000]

Its Miller time

Hopefully living the high life tonight.

Sooner or later, though, you have to take a Leake.

[Braves1976]

Peterson now has 6 hits in his last 11 AB's and all of this has came with regular playing time, and a set spot in the line-up, unlike the way Fredi had been jerking him around.

[bravesnumberone]

The crowd tonight is horrendous.

[thewupk]

The crowd tonight is horrendous.

sign of things to come

[MadduxFanII]

Stop. Starting. Eric. Young. Jr..

[Braves1976]

Stop. Starting. Eric. Young. Jr..

Maybin gets on base 4 times and is rewarded with the bench the last two games since, that will cool him off..

[thewupk]

Maybin gets on base 4 times and is rewarded with the bench the last two games since, that will cool him off..

The Fredi way

[sturg33]

The crowd tonight is horrendous.

It's a much more fun to watch crowd though

[bravesnumberone]

Votto has dropped some weight.

[MadduxFanII]

Votto seems to have recovered nicely from his "down" year.

[thewupk]

nice work there

[Julio3000]

Stop. Starting. Eric. Young. Jr..

Please.

[dak]

What an incredibly lucky end to that inning for Shelby. Missed the target big time on Frazier, but struck him out. Then screaming liner for a DP. We'll take it.

[Julio3000]

nice work there

And some good luck. I'll take it.

[Braves1976]

Did CJ's fluke stolen base earlier this year make him think he can run? :)

[thewupk]

nice defense this game for the braves so far

[Julio3000]

nice defense this game for the braves so far

That's going to be the difference in a lot of ballgames this year.

[UNCBlue012]

Stupid Bethancourt

[50PoundHead]

Hanger to Votto?

[Julio3000]

Hanger to Votto?

Didn't see it. Gameday says fastball 93.

[Braves1976]

That 1-2 pitch was strike three!

[UNCBlue012]

Two strike tyrees already.

[Braves1976]

Braves Hursh for Mississippi took a liner right back off his right leg, hit him pretty good. Hope he's okay, he's trying to stay in the game.

[UNCBlue012]

Miller is the man!

[Braves1976]

Ump tried to cheap Miller but he struck him out twice. Ha!

[Julio3000]

Gotta win this one after that tightrope act.

[50PoundHead]

Miller is the man!

I think Miller could be pretty good if it all falls together for him. Big kid. Good fastball. Seems to need an "out" pitch. I like that he pitches "forward."

[Julio3000]

Lotta fastballs. Lotta fly balls.

[bravesnumberone]

lulz

[UNCBlue012]

I'll keep saying it, the team quits trying after a certain extent. Same
I'm wrong, I don't care. They just quit.

Zimmerman 3 RBI's last night.
Homer to Leake now.

[50PoundHead]

Looks like I jinxed him.

[Julio3000]

When was the last time you saw an NL game where the 8-9 hitters went yard back-to-back?

[bravesnumberone]

Looks like I jinxed him.

I think the jersey did. Whole lot of lose on this team right now. They are dead in the water.

[50PoundHead]

Lotta fastballs. Lotta fly balls.

His GB/FB this year has been a lot better than his career numbers. Pitch count may be getting to him.

[50PoundHead]

112 pitches. Is this the first time we've had a pitcher go over 100 this season?

[bravesnumberone]

112 pitches. Is this the first time we've had a pitcher go over 100 this season?

Wood did last night I think.

[Braves1976]

I was hoping they pulled CJ because he'd been traded, looks like he just hurt himself on that stupid attempt as stealing.

[mossy]

Hold me.

[50PoundHead]

Donnie Veal here yet?

[Julio3000]

Veal in.

Cornely has got to be, like, WTF mane?

[Braves1976]

Fredi brings in the lefty Veal with three straight righties due up? LOL!

Oh wait, I forgot Bruce was due up second. My mistake there. But either way you'd think he'd be used by mostly lefties.

[50PoundHead]

Auspicious debut.

[Julio3000]

Jace caught a laser for the 1st out.

[Braves1976]

Veal in.

Cornely has got to be, like, WTF mane?

Veal is a vet, already with MLB experience. Fredi likes vets but not rookies.

[Braves1976]

Jace caught a laser for the 1st out.

Yep, Veal looks bad vs both righties and lefties so far.

[sturg33]

Fun to watch

[Julio3000]

I'm ready for the EY experiment to end.

[CyYoung31]

The bullpen is a mess, the back end of our rotation is a joke, and there is no way this offense will keep up their current pace. This is a bad, bad baseball team.

[50PoundHead]

Span twice in that series and now Hamilton? Sheesh.

[dak]

This is kind of what rock bottom looks like, methinks.

[bravesnumberone]

The bullpen is a mess, the back end of our rotation is a joke, and there is no way this offense will keep up their current pace. This is a bad, bad baseball team.

Front end not much better. That's a key problem.

[dak]

Concerning that they're not calling the CJ injury day-to-day . . .

@Braves
Injury Update: Chris Johnson left tonight’s game with a left hand injury and will be further evaluated on Friday.

[MadduxFanII]

Re-building years are fine in theory, but man, a re-building season in MLB is an interminable thing. We have 140 more games of this.

And another season after that.

[Braves1976]

Re-building years are fine in theory, but man, a re-building season in MLB is an interminable thing. We have 140 more games of this.

And another season after that.

We might as well consider any year Fredi manages as re-building because even if we have a playoff team we might not get in, but if we do, we won't go far.

[dak]

Re-building years are fine in theory, but man, a re-building season in MLB is an interminable thing. We have 140 more games of this.

And another season after that.

I really think we'll be on the come-up in 2016. Whether that trajectory will put us in contention remains to be seen, but it ain't gonna look like this.

[Runnin]

This is actually not that fun to watch.

[sturg33]

Concerning that they're not calling the CJ injury day-to-day . . .

@Braves
Injury Update: Chris Johnson left tonight’s game with a left hand injury and will be further evaluated on Friday.

The worst part is wasting prime years from Freeman, Simmons, Teheran, Wood, Miller, on wasted seasons

[nsacpi]

The worst part is wasting prime years from Freeman, Simmons, Teheran, Wood, Miller, on wasted seasons

We have the core to be a playoff contender. And yet we're punting. Fans are right to find something else to do with their time and dollars. Btw I wonder how season ticket holders feel about what Hart told them. You know the conference call about payroll at least at last year's level.

[CyYoung31]

Front end not much better. That's a key problem.

Right but, unless there is injury, that part should be fine.

[bravesnumberone]

Right but, unless there is injury, that part should be fine.

Should be pretty clear Julio is injured. Miller looks good so far. Being over 500 was fun while it lasted

[Krovahn]

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves 2m2 minutes ago
Roster moves: #Braves place 3B Chris Johnson on disabled list with a left hand fracture

[dak]

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves 2m2 minutes ago
Roster moves: #Braves place 3B Chris Johnson on disabled list with a left hand fracture

Pedro Ciriaco, pack your bags!

[sturg33]

I assume Kelly Johnson gets the full time role

[Krovahn]

Pedro Ciriaco, pack your bags!

Or, ya know, Folty.

[dak]

Or, ya know, Folty.

Yes, that's the roster move tonight. But they will almost certainly have another position player up for tomorrow's game to replace CJ at the expense of Ian Thomas.

[50PoundHead]

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves 2m2 minutes ago
Roster moves: #Braves place 3B Chris Johnson on disabled list with a left hand fracture

Hessman went deep twice tonight against Gwinnett. Just sayin'.

[jpx7]

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[Hawk]

What's the average recovery time for CJ's injury?

[50PoundHead]

I assume Kelly Johnson gets the full time role

I could see that and Cunningham getting promoted.

[bravesnumberone]

What's the average recovery time for CJ's injury?

2017.

[dak]

I could see that and Cunningham getting promoted.

I think that would be the best play since he's already on the 40-man.

[Krovahn]

Yes, that's the roster move tonight. But they will almost certainly have another position player up for tomorrow's game to replace CJ at the expense of Ian Thomas.

Ciriaco has a slash line of .243/.263/.297, 15Ks and has committed 2 errors. He hasn't done anything in AAA to warrant a promotion at this point.

[bravesnumberone]

Ciriaco has a slash line of .243/.263/.297, 15Ks and has committed 2 errors. He hasn't done anything in AAA to warrant a promotion at this point.

We're going absolutely nowhere. I think he's at least owed a quick cup of coffee after he made the team and then didn't because of the CK/Melvin trade.

[Julio3000]

Ciriaco has a slash line of .243/.263/.297, 15Ks and has committed 2 errors. He hasn't done anything in AAA to warrant a promotion at this point.

I can't imagine why we would need Gosselin and Ciriaco on the roster.

[dak]

Ciriaco has a slash line of .243/.263/.297, 15Ks and has committed 2 errors. He hasn't done anything in AAA to warrant a promotion at this point.

Trust me, I'm not advocating Ciriaco. I'm very anti-Ciriaco. It was just gallows humor.

[50PoundHead]

I think that would be the best play since he's already on the 40-man.

And it would give Cunningham a few ABs in CF, which would mean less ABs for EYJ.

[CyYoung31]

Should be pretty clear Julio is injured. Miller looks good so far. Being over 500 was fun while it lasted

It's not clear though. If it were, he'd be on the DL.

[Julio3000]

And it would give Cunningham a few ABs in CF, which would mean less ABs for EYJ.

Yes, I was going to advocate bringing Cunningham up and benching or cutting EY earlier this evening. I decided not to, so as not to be too much of a negative prick. But, crime in a coma anything think it's coming him up and EYA out of the lineup, even if only a few nights, is a positive step.

[thewupk]

And it would give Cunningham a few ABs in CF, which would mean less ABs for EYJ.

or Maybin

[Julio3000]

And it would give Cunningham a few ABs in CF, which would mean less ABs for EYJ.

Yes, please.

I was going to advocate bringing Cunningham up and benching or cutting EY earlier this evening. I decided not to, so as not to be too much of a negative prick and all. But, criminy--anything that gets Todd up and EY out of the lineup, even if only a few nights, is a positive step.

[50PoundHead]

or Maybin

Fredi seems to be doing a good job of limiting Maybin's ABs already. I agree that Maybin should be out there 4/5 days. But if I don't see EYJ roam the garden anymore, I'd be fine with that.

Cue sturg33 on EYJ's excellent spring.

[bravesnumberone]

It's not clear though. If it were, he'd be on the DL.

I really don't give a ****. He was on fire. And then he had that play with his leg. And if he's not injured, then he's been pitching scared ever since and is mentally shot. So regardless, he needs to be either skipped over to get his head right or put on the DL. Anyone who's ever watched him pitch can tell from his follow through and body language something isn't right, either physically or mentally.

[weso1]

The bullpen is a mess, the back end of our rotation is a joke, and there is no way this offense will keep up their current pace. This is a bad, bad baseball team.

The good news is that Wood and Teheran will probably improve.:FrediConfident:

[50PoundHead]

I really don't give a ****. He was on fire. And then he had that play with his leg. And if he's not injured, then he's been pitching scared ever since and is mentally shot. So regardless, he needs to be either skipped over to get his head right or put on the DL. Anyone who's ever watched him pitch can tell from his follow through and body language something isn't right, either physically or mentally.

Teheran looked like a totally different pitcher from last season when I watched the game on Tuesday night (first time I've seen him pitch this year). He was pitching backwards all night long. When he's right, he's working the fastball inside. He was leaving stuff up and out over the plate all night long. I think half the posters here could have hit the HR pitch to Lobaton.

[CyYoung31]

I really don't give a ****. He was on fire. And then he had that play with his leg. And if he's not injured, then he's been pitching scared ever since and is mentally shot. So regardless, he needs to be either skipped over to get his head right or put on the DL. Anyone who's ever watched him pitch can tell from his follow through and body language something isn't right, either physically or mentally.

Congratulations on not giving a ****. Not sure if you're aware, but pitchers do get into funks sometimes, especially young ones. Teheran will be fine if he's healthy.

[CyYoung31]

Yes, I was going to advocate bringing Cunningham up and benching or cutting EY earlier this evening. I decided not to, so as not to be too much of a negative prick. But, crime in a coma anything think it's coming him up and EYA out of the lineup, even if only a few nights, is a positive step.

lol

[bravesnumberone]

Congratulations on not giving a ****. Not sure if you're aware, but pitchers do get into funks sometimes, especially young ones. Teheran will be fine if he's healthy.

Yes I understand that. The whole point I'm making is I don't believe he's fine. At all. It isn't just him missing pitch location at this point. But if he comes out the next couple outings and pitches well, then I'll eat the crow.

[50PoundHead]

Nats sit Uggla down and put Escobar back in the line-up. So Escobar goes out and gets 3 hits. LOL.

PS--Teheran got off to a bad start in 2013 before righting the ship. He was solid pretty much beginning to end in 2014 though. Weather's been kind of funky. It may take him awhile to find his groove. My point is that he looked all out of joint on Tuesday night.

[CyYoung31]

Yes I understand that. The whole point I'm making is I don't believe he's fine. At all. It isn't just him missing pitch location at this point. But if he comes out the next couple outings and pitches well, then I'll eat the crow.

That's fine, and he very well may not be. But, he maintains that he is, and I seriously doubt even Hart and Fredi are dumb enough to let our young ace pitch through a potentially serious injury in meaningless games.

[bravesnumberone]

That's fine, and he very well may not be. But, he maintains that he is, and I seriously doubt even Hart and Fredi are dumb enough to let our young ace pitch through a potentially serious injury in meaningless games.

I'll keep telling myself that it's Smoltz in 1991 and that he'll figure it out and lead us to the WS, which we lose when Fredi doesn't bring Grilled Cheese in for the 4-out save, but still gets a lifetime contract extension.

[thewupk]

Front end not much better. That's a key problem.

The pitching as a whole is atrocious. 5th worst team FIP at 4.43 and 8th worst ERA at 4.35.

[MadduxFanII]

Yes, please.

I was going to advocate bringing Cunningham up and benching or cutting EY earlier this evening. I decided not to, so as not to be too much of a negative prick and all. But, criminy--anything that gets Todd up and EY out of the lineup, even if only a few nights, is a positive step.

Fredi has read too many Romantic poems extolling the virtues of spring. Poetry once again has led a baseball manager astray.

[thewupk]

Nats sit Uggla down and put Escobar back in the line-up. So Escobar goes out and gets 3 hits. LOL.

PS--Teheran got off to a bad start in 2013 before righting the ship. He was solid pretty much beginning to end in 2014 though. Weather's been kind of funky. It may take him awhile to find his groove. My point is that he looked all out of joint on Tuesday night.

Pitching hurt will do that

[bravesnumberone]

The pitching as a whole is atrocious. 5th worst team FIP at 4.43 and 8th worst ERA at 4.35.

Miller has been good, other than the inexcusable giving up back to back to the 8-9 hitters tonight. Everyone else is making horrible pitches right now and can't finish hitters off. When they do get ahead with two strikes, they're pussyfooting around and not going after guys. That elevates pitch counts and gets us to a less than stellar bullpen early on. :FrediConfident:

[50PoundHead]

Pitching hurt will do that

That's a credible theory. I'd be curious to see what his pitch selection numbers were the other night. He was really in love with the off-speed stuff. If you're banged up, it can be difficult to get enough heat on the fastball.

[CyYoung31]

The pitching as a whole is atrocious. 5th worst team FIP at 4.43 and 8th worst ERA at 4.35.

Horrific. And it doesn't look to be getting better anytime soon on the bullpen front.

[50PoundHead]

Miller has been good, other than the inexcusable giving up back to back to the 8-9 hitters tonight. Everyone else is making horrible pitches right now and can't finish hitters off. When they do get ahead with two strikes, they're pussyfooting around and not going after guys. That elevates pitch counts and gets us to a less than stellar bullpen early on. :FrediConfident:

The last two nights against the Nats, everything away got too much plate and was sitting too high. It's one thing to dink pitches to the opposite field. That Nats were just smoking that ball the opposite way.

[CyYoung31]

That's a credible theory. I'd be curious to see what his pitch selection numbers were the other night. He was really in love with the off-speed stuff. If you're banged up, it can be difficult to get enough heat on the fastball.

His velocity was down too, which is probably a reason people think he is injured.

[CyYoung31]

Nats sit Uggla down and put Escobar back in the line-up. So Escobar goes out and gets 3 hits. LOL.

PS--Teheran got off to a bad start in 2013 before righting the ship. He was solid pretty much beginning to end in 2014 though. Weather's been kind of funky. It may take him awhile to find his groove. My point is that he looked all out of joint on Tuesday night.

One need only to look at Jordan Schafer to understand how crippling that can be.

[thewupk]

His velocity was down too, which is probably a reason people think he is injured.

That and he's given up a run per innings since getting hit in the leg.

[CyYoung31]

That and he's given up a run per innings since getting hit in the leg.

You know, he sucked royally the first month of 2013 too.