GDT 5/9/15 ATL @ WAS 4:05 ET

[Julio3000]

Piss and Vinegar

1. Nick Markakis RF
2. Andrelton Simmons ∞
3. Freddie Freeman 1B
4. Kelly Johnson LF
5. Bert Calypso 3B
6. Jace Peterson 2B
7. Christian Bethancourt C
8. Cameron Maybin CF
9. Julio Teheran P

Vinegar and Water

1. Span CF
2. Escobar 3B
3. Werth LF
4. Harper RF
5. Zimmerman 1B
6. Desmond SS
7. Lobaton C
8. Espinosa 2B
9. Fister P

As Chip Caray says, let the Fisting commence.

[UNCBlue012]

Alright, glad to see Johnson, Peterson and C-Beth in there. I hope Teheran can do work tonight!

If we give up a homer to Bryce, I'm going to rage. Walk him four-five times, I don't care. No hits/homers.

[Dalyn]

Markakis needs a day off.

[Prikichi]

Best lineup all year imo

[thewupk]

Markakis needs a day off.

He's struggled every since being moved to the leadoff spot

[Julio3000]

Alright, glad to see Johnson, Peterson and C-Beth in there. I hope Teheran can do work tonight!

If we give up a homer to Bryce, I'm going to rage. Walk him four-five times, I don't care. No hits/homers.

4x HBP

[Julio3000]

Markakis needs a day off.

He's 6-30 with 9 K, 0 BB, and 1 XBH in his last 7 games.

[MadduxFanII]

He's 6-30 with 9 K, 0 BB, and 1 XBH in his last 7 games.

So his power is increasing?

[AerchAngel]

4x HBP

I wish, all in the ribs. I would do it as a starter and I am not 6'0 160 lbs either. He charges the mound, Farnsworth and Ryan has nothing me,.

[Julio3000]

So his power is increasing?

**** yeah. That thing almost got to the warning track on the fly.

[nsacpi]

Expecting a huge game from Muk.

[cajunrevenge]

Why is CB batting ahead of anyone, Teheran included.

[Braves1976]

I don't mind moving Peterson up to 6th, though I liked him 7th given his success there so far. But I hate it that our worst hitter in the line-up is hitting behind him. If you move Peterson to 6th you need Maybin 7th and Bethancourt 8th. This also allows Maybin to steal should he reach base whereas batting 8th doesn't usually.

[keithlaw]

It's Odarp 2.0's birthday

[Braves1976]

It's Odarp 2.0's birthday

Yea, hopefully Peterson has a big game on his birthday today.

[Braves1976]

It turns out my concerns about our bullpen being very bad were accurate, apparently we now have the worst bullpen in the NL. We went from one of the best to worst as far as bullpens very fast. I hope we're able to fix it before next season.

[Braves1976]

Simmons called out on strikes, bad call it was outside.

[smootness]

Simmons called out on strikes, bad call it was outside.

Awful call. I hate when pitchers get calls just because they hit the target, no matter where the target is set up. The target was well off the plate, and the pitch hit the mitt...well off the plate.

[bravesnumberone]

FS1 guys have done nothing but talk about the ****ing 10-2 blown game.

[AerchAngel]

Seriously, how can you look at a 87 mph fastball down the middle? Oh, batting .159?

[UNCBlue012]

Thanks Teheran. Just keeps giving up the long ball.

[bravesnumberone]

Had about enough of JT giving up bombs.

[USMA76]

Yep, after that eight run blown lead, we are officially the Nationals' bitch.

[bravesnumberone]

He is throwing lollipops. This is a disgrace.

[UNCBlue012]

And we are all of a sudden giving up hits to garbage like Espinosa. This year is a rebuilding year, but this is making me pretty mad.

[bravesnumberone]

And we are all of a sudden giving up hits to garbage like Espinosa. This year is a rebuilding year, but this is making me pretty mad.

At least thought our "ace" would pitch somewhat better than this.

[UNCBlue012]

That was a bad route by Maybin though.

[UNCBlue012]

At least thought our "ace" would pitch somewhat better than this.

Well, as Minor so gracefully showed us all, 1 1/2 years of great pitching doesn't mean much in this league.

Julio has the stuff, but this is kind of crazy. He's been struggling way longer than I expected.

[bravesnumberone]

Time to get Cahill up.

[UNCBlue012]

Jesus Julio. This is embarrassing. 1-2...

[USMA76]

This is so hard to watch.

[UNCBlue012]

This is so hard to watch.

You'd think he'd work to improve that horrid 4.41 ERA.

[Braves1976]

The Nats are playing with a lot of confidence against us now, but before we blew that 8-run lead they didn't. We were in their head but not anymore.

[USMA76]

The Nats are playing with a lot of confidence against us now, but before we blew that 8-run lead they didn't. We were in their head but not anymore.

It's pretty obvious they have our number right now and for the foreseeable future.

[UNCBlue012]

The Nats are playing with a lot of confidence against us now, but before we blew that 8-run lead they didn't. We were in their head but not anymore.

Well, that wouldn't be an issue if we didn't lose 8-run leads. That's incredibly hard to do for professionals.

[USMA76]

You'd think he'd work to improve that horrid 4.41 ERA.

The way he's pitching today, that number's going to increase--a lot.

[UNCBlue012]

The way he's pitching today, that number's going to increase--a lot.

It's frustrating because I personally don't understand it. IF he's not hurt or straining himself, what is it? His location is spotty. One inning it's great, the next is absolutely abysmal.

[USMA76]

It's frustrating because I personally don't understand it. IF he's not hurt or straining himself, what is it? His location is spotty. One inning it's great, the next is absolutely abysmal.

I think a lot of it is mental toughness. Some pitchers have a "bulldog mentality" on the mound in which they concede nothing because they're not going to allow you to beat them. Teheran OTOH lets adversity get to him and he melts. Until he gets a lot tougher, he'll never be much more than a second tier pitcher.

[Dalyn]

Can't blame A.J. this time. Julio looks like ****.

[Braves1976]

The bat licker Jose Constanza has signed with the Reds on a minor league deal. JFYI.

[bravesnumberone]

I remember when the Nats played scared of us. Now it's the other way.

[Braves1976]

If the Nats recover to win the division they'll probably owe a big thanks the Braves, sorry to say.

[USMA76]

And Fister nearly hits one out.

[Braves1976]

Peterson hit it well but lines out to Harper, not going well for the birthday boy so far. Nothing is for the Braves minus the bloop hit by Callaspo.

[Braves1976]

Good job by Maybin, at least got a run.

[Garmel]

Imagine how good that inning would have been if the Nats had not gotten so damn lucky. Peterson's ball could have dropped and Bethancourt not getting out because of fluke play.

[UNCBlue012]

STOP HANGING PITCHES, JULIO. Jeez.

[UNCBlue012]

Ace my butt. You pitch like crap when the team really needs you.

[atl717]

Julio sucks now. I hate this season.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Welp

[bravesnumberone]

And the Hawks getting the brakes beat off of them. Great day to be an Atlanta sports fan!

[Garmel]

Are we having fun yet?

[CrimsonCowboy]

Might be getting a bit more anxious for football season by the All Star Break

[bravesnumberone]

Are we having fun yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_7ZOEk0sOA

[Braves1976]

Are we having fun yet?

When we were going bad last year I could at least count on usually owning the Nats, now I get to watch a rebuild season and watch the Nats own us (including Uggla being the one to turn the tide, etc).

If that is what makes a fun season I want no more fun...

[AerchAngel]

JT is not an ace.

Miller is our ace
Wood
Folty
Teheran
Scrap heap.

[AerchAngel]

Cahill a $5 mil a year scrub, like strUggla and Bossman, and bLowe, and Kawakami and others that stole money from us.

[UNCBlue012]

Cahill needs to be released. I understand the want to have a sinker baller like him in the BP, but he's awful.

Also, what is up with Simmons and these double plays? I know that wasn't quite a DP, but it's still close.

[UNCBlue012]

Lead off hit, 3-2 count ground out (should of been a DP), 3-1 count ground out, and ground out. THAT is dumb baseball.

[Braves1976]

Cahill needs to be released. I understand the want to have a sinker baller like him in the BP, but he's awful.

Also, what is up with Simmons and these double plays? I know that wasn't quite a DP, but it's still close.

Simmons usually hits ground balls hard and is a slow runner, that makes for a DP chance if hit right at an infielder. Plus he's batting behind Markakis who is also slow and mostly a singles hitter. That makes for even more DP chances for Simmons to hit into since Markakis won't be stealing second like other leadoff hitters.

Ideally, you'd want Simmons hitting behind a speedy hitter that can steal bases to cut down on the DP chances.

[AerchAngel]

Gas Can Klob, oh I mean Can'thill is in, will he have diluted water or super gas?

[50PoundHead]

Cahill a $5 mil a year scrub, like strUggla and Bossman, and bLowe, and Kawakami and others that stole money from us.

Petty theft compared to the other guys you mentioned.

[USMA76]

That's not a wind blowing in from left field, it's the suck coming from the Braves dugout.

[Dalyn]

That's not a wind blowing in from left field, it's the suck coming from the Braves dugout.

Maybe it'll meet the suck coming from the rotation and they'll cancel each other out.

[Dalyn]

Hell. It's sad, but Martin would probably be our #2 right now.

[Braves1976]

Damn it, how did that get caught? Peterson nailed that low liner and Harper still catches it. So much for his birthday turning out well..

[Braves1976]

Good job Pedro, hopefully you'll replace Gosselin on the bench.

[Braves1976]

Figures, Harper again.

[AerchAngel]

Figures, Harper again.

No sh*it.

[Prikichi]

JT is not an ace.

Miller is our ace
Wood
Folty
Teheran
Scrap heap.

lol

[50PoundHead]

Cun-esi. Father of dragons. Ks Harper!

[Braves1976]

Man, you know a throw is bad if Simmons cannot get a glove on it. But at least he got a DP next batter to get out of it.

[USMA76]

[facepalm]...

[Julio3000]

Man, you know a throw is bad if Simmons cannot get a glove on it. But at least he got a DP next batter to get out of it.

Dude will stay in the pen if he can throw filth like that to the catcher.

[Braves1976]

lol

Folty listed ahead of Teheran is a big "lol" for me. It seems posters are overreacting to Teheran's poor start today, unless Teheran is hurting I wouldn't be too concerned going forward. If we were not rebuilding I would be more concerned about it of course.

[Julio3000]

Damn, Bert. Good AB.

[Braves1976]

Well, Peterson has been robbed twice. Hopefully his likely last AB proves a success including some RBI's on his birthday.

[Runnin]

Did he tag him with an empty glove?

[The Chosen One]

BETH BABY. BETH BABY. BETH BABY.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Beathancourt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Braves1976]

Tie game! Good job Bethancourt.

[The Chosen One]

Darn.

Oh well. Proud of our boys for fighting back.

[USMA76]

Darn.

Oh well. Proud of our boys for fighting back.

+1

[Julio3000]

Christy Beth, y'all.

[Runnin]

Darn.

Oh well. Proud of our boys for fighting back.
+2

These guys just keep scoring.

[FreemanFan]

Did he tag him with an empty glove?

That's what I saw. I'm reviewing the official rules, but I don't see where a fielder can record an out by tagging the runner with the hand/glove not holding the ball.

[AerchAngel]

Darn.

Oh well. Proud of our boys for fighting back.

WTF Pete Rose, you got money on this game?

[Braves1976]

Braves should've reviewed that Peterson grounder, Peterson should've had an infield hit as he was tagged with an empty glove while holding ball in other hand. Why didn't we challenge that?

[bravesnumberone]

Nice job coming back. Try to steal one.

[The Chosen One]

Braves should've reviewed that Peterson grounder, Peterson should've had an infield hit as he was tagged with an empty glove while holding ball in other hand. Why didn't we challenge that?

Was hard to see from the Braves dugout I'd imagine. Plus Pendleton wasn't in good position to see it. Peterson didn't make a fuss about it because he thought the ball was probably in glove too.

[Braves1976]

That's what I saw. I'm reviewing the official rules, but I don't see where a fielder can record an out by tagging the runner with the hand/glove not holding the ball.

He needed to be tagged with the ball in glove, but we didn't challenge it so the out stood.

[The Chosen One]

Bruce Chen called up by Cleveland... why didn't we bring him back? Just for old time sake. lol.

[USMA76]

Should've been a strike 'em out, throw 'em out double play. Bad throw by CB.

[Braves1976]

Was hard to see from the Braves dugout I'd imagine. Plus Pendleton wasn't in good position to see it. Peterson didn't make a fuss about it because he thought the ball was probably in glove too.

Fredi says he cannot see a lot of plays from the dugout, he or someone should've checked it. They probably just assumed he was tagged with the ball in glove.

[Braves1976]

Nice throw by KJ and tag by Bethancourt. His foot popped up or he might've got in there.

[Julio3000]

No way Aj makes that pick and tag.

[dak]

That's a hell of a throw by KJ. Great to see the guys make this a game. Really not enjoying these FS1 announcers.

[Braves1976]

No way Aj makes that pick and tag.

Agreed. In fact, there was a throw more on line than that he misplayed not long ago.

[Garmel]

No way Aj makes that pick and tag.

Nope. AJ would have been afraid to drop his beer.

[Julio3000]

Let's just go ahead and win this one.

[Julio3000]

Wish they still had Clippard.

[Dalyn]

Let's get Martin another win! :tchop:

[jsebe10]

I feel a walk off coming

[jsebe10]

Werth about to bomb city

[Braves1976]

It looks like Peterson's on base streak of 11 in a row will end today on his birthday. Thanks to bad breaks on two lineouts being caught and no review of what would've been an infield hit.

[Dalyn]

Werth about to bomb city

NO! Bad boy. NO!

[jsebe10]

Tht worked.

Now...

Harper is about to Bomb city

[jsebe10]

NO! Bad boy. NO!
Reverse jinx man

[thethe]

Geez

[keithlaw]

**** yunel and harper

[Dalyn]

Nice to see Martin getting that kind of movement at 93. Usually he gets that at 89 or 90.

[jsebe10]

Fck. Nevermind.

[Braves1976]

Figures, who didn't see that coming?

[USMA76]

Harper...ballgame.

[Garmel]

I hate baseball.

[Dalyn]

*SIGH*

[CrimsonCowboy]

As I said last night, I could tolerate him some if Bryce Harper was at least a little likable.

[jsebe10]

This is the worst bullpen I've seen in years. Many years.

[Garmel]

Martin's been overused. This bullpen just doesn't give us a chance in late innings.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Chocolate syrup? Really? How lame is that...............

[jsebe10]

As I said last night, I could tolerate him some if Bryce Harper was at least a little likable.

I hate him. I really do. There's nothing I resoect about that piece of **** and I think he's an embarrassment to the game. Fckn Dominican players aren't as bad as that cock sucker. I hope he breaks his legs...after of course Joe and chip finish blowing him. So fck him and his stupid Manhattan high and tight queer hair cut.

[Heyward]

This is the worst bullpen I've seen in years. Many years.

Even though i liked what Hart did this offseason somewhat, decimating the bullpen wasnt one of them.

Would be nice to have at least two of Carp, Shreve, Walden, etc.

Although i can get the ManBan trade with his potential.

[jsebe10]

Even though i liked what Hart did this offseason somewhat, decimating the bullpen wasnt one of them.

Would be nice to have at least two of Carp, Shreve, Walden, etc.

Although i can get the ManBan trade with his potential.

Yea but you don't deplete the BP though. We traded some really good arms down there for this sht show out there now. The position players deserve better than that today. No excuse in consistently being unreliable in later innings.

[jsebe10]

Little Fck hole walked 6 steps and slung his bat to the duggout. Please keep him honest and bean him.

[jsebe10]

I mean DAN Uggla and Franceour. Come on!! Dan has 10 hits this year and 5 vs this team.

[bravesnumberone]

Yeah, I'd say it's time to take a break from baseball.

Fight back and then their butt holes shrivel up again.

Shout out to John Hart for ****ting the bullpen away. So fun to watch.

Only good thing is gonna be watching the Nats choke in October.

[dak]

We certainly caught Harper at the wrong time. He is so hatable. I knew to expect it, but the arrogance he displayed in the post game interview is almost to the point of being embarrassing.

[jsebe10]

We certainly caught Harper at the wrong time. He is so hatable. I knew to expect it, but the arrogance he displayed in the post game interview is almost to the point of being embarrassing.

What did he say

[bravesnumberone]

We certainly caught Harper at the wrong time. He is so hatable. I knew to expect it, but the arrogance he displayed in the post game interview is almost to the point of being embarrassing.

Too bad we can't do a damn thing against him. He owns us, and he knows it, and we aren't ready for it.

[thethe]

He is a dbag but I love watching a pure talent like him.

[dak]

What did he say

Just paraphrasing here . . . Ken Rosenthal asks him what it feels like to be this hot at that plate. And he says: I don't really see it as being hot, this is just the way I hit the ball. Then he strokes his hipster hairdo back and walks away without looking at Rosenthal.

[Braves1976]

Yea but you don't deplete the BP though. We traded some really good arms down there for this sht show out there now. The position players deserve better than that today. No excuse in consistently being unreliable in later innings.

It isn't really the Man-Ban trade that has hurt us in that respect, it's the loss of Kimbrel, Walden and Simmons mostly. Shreve is a solid bullpen arm but he hardly pitched with us last year. And you won't convince me that including Carpenter within this bullpen would make a difference while Varvaro has already been DFA'd twice and is now in the minors (plus his velocity is down again and has elbow concerns). Further, Walden is hurt again so as good as he is he might be on the DL right now with us too.

That said, I thought Kohn was among our best bullpen arms despite his issues with walks but we sent him down despite no hits or runs allowed so far.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Don't like the sound of this.............................

David O'Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 2m2 minutes ago
#Braves Fredi G said Grilli was unavailable to pitch today. Wouldn't elaborate, just said wasn't available. Hopeful it's only one day.

[Braves1976]

Don't like the sound of this.............................

David O'Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 2m2 minutes ago
#Braves Fredi G said Grilli was unavailable to pitch today. Wouldn't elaborate, just said wasn't available. Hopeful it's only one day.

I hope signing him to a multi-year deal doesn't blow up in our face. He is getting older so if he comes back OK we need him to be effective and trade him at the deadline.

[jsebe10]

I thought he was on a one year deal

[thewupk]

Harper is the greatest of all-time. Let's revel at his behemoth cock

[thethe]

Harper is the greatest of all-time. Let's revel at his behemoth cock

His all time career is just starting. Guy is a prick but the ****er is great at hitting a baseball.

[Braves1976]

I thought he was on a one year deal

Nah, we signed him for 8 million over two years with a club option for a third year at 3 million.

[Runnin]

His all time career is just starting. Guy is a prick but the ****er is great at hitting a baseball.
Well I can't believe we threw the prick a strike in that situation.

[Tino25Dynasty]

Didn't see the game but what is up with Theran? Maybe he lost his mojo because now he's on a sucky team? I'm just surprised.

[thethe]

Well I can't believe we threw the prick a strike in that situation.

It was down in the zone but yeah, Harper should be pitched around in every big spot.

[thewupk]

Didn't see the game but what is up with Theran? Maybe he lost his mojo because now he's on a sucky team? I'm just surprised.

BB rate is twice as high as is his homerun rate. He's been pretty awful.

[mossy]

Nothing worse than the Nats owning. And why oh why even pitch to Harper. Ugh. Is it 2020 yet?