5/17/15 Braves @ Marlins

[Garmel]

Braves
1. Jace Peterson (L) 2B
2. Phil Gosselin (R) 3B
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Nick Markakis (L) RF
5. Todd Cunningham (S) LF
6. A.J. Pierzynski (L) C
7. Pedro Ciriaco (R) SS
8. Cameron Maybin (R) CF
9. Shelby Miller (R) P

Marlins
1. Dee Gordon (L) 2B
2. Martin Prado (R) 3B
3. Giancarlo Stanton (R) RF
4. Marcell Ozuna (R) CF
5. Christian Yelich (L) LF
6. Michael Morse (R) 1B
7. Adeiny Hechavarria (R) SS
8. Jhonatan Solano (R) C
9. Henderson Alvarez (R) P

[Garmel]

Looks like Simmons is getting his first day off.

[chop2chip]

Looks like Simmons is getting his first day off.

Probably necessary, but it's scary to see that happen on the day that our heavy ground ball pitcher is on the mound.

[Heyward]

Probably necessary, but it's scary to see that happen on the day that our heavy ground ball pitcher is on the mound.

We are off on Monday also but a little scary for sure.

[nsacpi]

Expecting a huge game from ciriaco

[CyYoung31]

How come when I see Ciriaco, I want to pronounce it Sriracha?

[Heyward]

Crazy how this years offense is better than last years jugular.

[50PoundHead]

Crazy how this years offense is better than last years jugular.

We're nearing the quarter season mark, so it's still early, but they do seem to play within themselves quite well. They seem to be playing "smarter" this year, but that may not be the case.

[jpx7]

Braves seeing some real extension with the bats this morning. I thought Wood pitched yesterday?

[thewupk]

Crazy how this years offense is better than last years jugular.

contact!

[Julio3000]

Damn.

[Heyward]

contact!

Need some power bats but there's some pieces in place on the current offense going forward.

Jace, Simba, Nick, and Freeman.

Need a power bat to supplement it depending on if Mallex Smith is legit for CF or not.

[thethe]

Is it fair to say the offense this year is better than last years?.

[thewupk]

Is it fair to say the offense this year is better than last years?.

results thus far say it is

[thethe]

results thus far say it is

I think the eye test tells us the same.

Still early but its pretty funny that all the talk we heard in the offseason is how epically bad the offense would be. Still much work left to be done but I would say the rebuild is going very well so far.

[USMA76]

In spite of our middling record and this team's glaring weaknesses--the back end of the starting rotation, the bullpen, and a lack of power--this can really be a fun team to watch when the bats are going well.

[thethe]

In spite of our middling record and this team's glaring weaknesses--the back end of the starting rotation, the bullpen, and an lack of power--this can really be a fun team to watch when the bats are going well.

Certainly fun to watch.

[Julio3000]

AJ threw behind his kid while tossing BP.

[jpx7]

AJ threw behind his kid while tossing BP.

To be fair, his son looked pretty drunk too.

[USMA76]

I don't think it's conclusive enough to overturn so Fredito wastes another challenge.

[jpx7]

I unjustifiably feel like somehow Simmons gets Alvarez on that play.

[thewupk]

I think the eye test tells us the same.

Still early but its pretty funny that all the talk we heard in the offseason is how epically bad the offense would be. Still much work left to be done but I would say the rebuild is going very well so far.

As others have said. The offense being as good as it is is because of surpisingly good seasons so far by players that are just stopgaps. So the rebuild being good remains to be seen imo.

[jpx7]

I don't think it's conclusive enough to overturn so Fredito wastes another challenge.

He's very good.

[thethe]

Shelby Miller is kind of awesome.

[Julio3000]

To be fair, his son looked pretty drunk too.

I'm sure the kid broke an unwritten rule of father-son soft-toss.

[Garmel]

I think we might have gotten a break with that call. I don't see how that was conclusive enough to overturn.

[UNCBlue012]

Beautiful!

[chop2chip]

I love how Fredi gets the blame for replay challenges when it's not even really his decision to challenge. I mean it is, but it's HoRam that's the one telling him when to challenge.

Y'all are just a prickly bunch at times.

[USMA76]

He's very good.

Color me surprised but I'll take it. :elefant:

[thethe]

As others have said. The offense being as good as it is is because of surpisingly good seasons so far by players that are just stopgaps. So the rebuild being good remains to be seen imo.

But Jace and Shelby are part of that rebuild right? Folty who has looked promising is prat of that rebuild right? Those are only some of the pieces. Not all of them rae going to succeed but already it seems like 3 parts will be part of hte future. You have to admit that it looks good right now.

[Heyward]

I don't think it's conclusive enough to overturn so Fredito wastes another challenge.

:FrediWut:

[Heyward]

As others have said. The offense being as good as it is is because of surpisingly good seasons so far by players that are just stopgaps. So the rebuild being good remains to be seen imo.

Eh, guys like Shelby, Folty, Jace, along with some others have been impressive who were acquired in the trades.

Some are stop-gaps, yes, but they'll have money to spend this winter and we'll see what happens with that.

[yeezus]

As others have said. The offense being as good as it is is because of surpisingly good seasons so far by players that are just stopgaps. So the rebuild being good remains to be seen imo.

That's part of it, sure. But that happens to like every successful team. You need contributions from guys you don't expect to heavily contribute. Simmons has improved a ton. Peterson has been playing extremely well. Freddie is Freddie. Maybin replaced BJ and has been a big improvement. Markakis has been pretty good. The pitching, IMO, is only going to get better moving forward, but I think the offense could easily keep this pace.

[UNCBlue012]

Jace Peterson is the man.

[USMA76]

So much for Simmons' day off. Hope Gosselin is okay.

[yeezus]

Jace Peterson is the man.

Yet another good AB. Make him throw you strikes. Good stuff.

[thethe]

I just find it frustrating how quick everyone was calling for the front offices neck in the offseason. At that point it wasn't too quick to decide but now its too quick. There is just no accountability for all the filth that was posted in the offseason and it bothers me. I don't know why it does and it shouldn't. I can't help it so I'm sorry for sounded like a dbag.

[thethe]

Yet another good AB. Make him throw you strikes. Good stuff.

By himself, Peterson will be more valueable than 1 year of Upton. Its getting to the point where he might even be more valueable this year if you are buying into defensive stats.

[thethe]

Gosselin got hurt on the dive huh?

[jpx7]

Shelby Miller is kind of awesome.

He's looked much better than I expected, and better than he ever looked when I watched him pitch for St Louis.

Still not sure he's a long-term top-of-the-rotation guy, but if he can stay somewhere near the level he's demonstrated in 2015, he could really anchor the rotation's middle.

[Garmel]

Gosselin got hurt on the dive huh?

That replay didn't look good the way his wrist twisted.

[thethe]

He's looked much better than I expected, and better than he ever looked when I watched him pitch for St Louis.

I wonder if he looked this good in September of last year.

[thethe]

These guys keep on hitting it on the ground against Miller. Loving that...low pitch counts and deeper outings. He still has the ability to blow that 4 seamer past you as well. 97 MPH+

[thethe]

Shelby Miller just blew away one of the top 10 hitters in baseball like he was a minor leaguer.

Got this guy for 1 year of a good player? WOW!

[yeezus]

Damn, Miller is pumping them in there. All 97s to K Giancarlo. FIRE.

[yeezus]

39 pitches thru 4. His efficiency has been amazing.

[jpx7]

Speaking of Miller: impressive sequence against Stanton. I had to rewind and watch it a second time.

[chop2chip]

I wonder if he looked this good in September of last year.

He's a different pitcher than last September. He never threw his cutter then as much as he does now. It's been his best pitch this year per Fangraphs.

[yeezus]

If he can work 95 all game, we've got an elite TOR guy.

[USMA76]

I just find it frustrating how quick everyone was calling for the front offices neck in the offseason. At that point it wasn't too quick to decide but now its too quick. There is just no accountability for all the filth that was posted in the offseason and it bothers me. I don't know why it does and it shouldn't. I can't help it so I'm sorry for sounded like a dbag.

It's the age old question that always divides a fan base--do you try to revive a failing product or do you tear it apart and (almost completely) start over? If the answer is the latter, then what pieces do you keep and which do you discard? We Braves fans have been pretty spoiled by having a team that's routinely competitive during the regular season.

IMO September 2014 was a watershed concerning the future viability of that team and decisions had to be made. I may be in the minority on this board but I think team management saw the writing on the wall and did what had to be done. That said, it sucks because we put a lot of emotional, and often financial, capital in the team and nobody likes to be told their team is "throwing in the towel" on a particular season.

So far, it's way to early to say whether management's decision was a good one or not.

[thethe]

He's a different pitcher than last September. He never threw his cutter then as much as he does now. It's been his best pitch this year per Fangraphs.

Having another great pitch makes everything else tougher to hit because the hitter has to think about something else.

Its so early but man Miller looks like he could be a TOR ace.

[Heyward]

I just find it frustrating how quick everyone was calling for the front offices neck in the offseason. At that point it wasn't too quick to decide but now its too quick. There is just no accountability for all the filth that was posted in the offseason and it bothers me. I don't know why it does and it shouldn't. I can't help it so I'm sorry for sounded like a dbag.

You arent wrong.

Alot of people are still mad they traded Heyward, and i still firmly believe this is why they wont give the FO credit for some of the moves that have worked out.

I wont name, names.

[thethe]

It's the age old question that always divides a fan base--do you try to revive a failing product or do you tear it apart and (almost completely) start over? If the answer is the latter, then what pieces do you keep and which do you discard? We Braves fans have been pretty spoiled by having a team that's routinely competitive during the regular season.

IMO September 2014 was a watershed concerning the future viability of that team and decisions had to be made. I may be in the minority on this board but I think team management saw the writing on the wall and did what had to be done. That said, it sucks because we put a lot of emotional, and often financial, capital in the team and nobody likes to be told their team is "throwing in the towel" on a particular season.

So far, it's way to early to say whether management's decision was a good one or not.

I get your post but I just disagree with the final point. I think the future of the team we had was pretty clear.

[thethe]

Can we DFA EYJ already?

[yeezus]

I get your post but I just disagree with the final point. I think the future of the team we had was pretty clear.

Imagine if we didn't get Miller for Heyward, Heyward had another just good season and left, and we didn't have Miller.
It's scary.

[UNCBlue012]

Another hit...

[jpx7]

Cunningham going HAM. So glad they finally brought the kid back up.

[Heyward]

Early but if Miller can keep it up, i'm not against extending him this winter and buying out a few FA years.

Provided both sides want to do so.

[thewupk]

But Jace and Shelby are part of that rebuild right? Folty who has looked promising is prat of that rebuild right? Those are only some of the pieces. Not all of them rae going to succeed but already it seems like 3 parts will be part of hte future. You have to admit that it looks good right now.

They are. Only Jace is apart of the offense though.

[thethe]

Imagine if we didn't get Miller for Heyward, Heyward had another just good season and left, and we didn't have Miller.
It's scary.

I don't even want to think about it.

[USMA76]

I get your post but I just disagree with the final point. I think the future of the team we had was pretty clear.

I agree with you in that last year's team needed to be blown up (not everyone thinks so; I was trying to be diplomatic). My last point is that we're still only a quarter of the way through the season and there's nothing to say that we couldn't duplicate our collapse of last year. Hope not but there are no guarantees.

[Heyward]

Imagine if we didn't get Miller for Heyward, Heyward had another just good season and left, and we didn't have Miller.
It's scary.

Sad thing is alot of people wanted to go for it one last time, most likely only a WC team given the lack of money to spend, among other things.

He's looked impressive though for damn sure.

Roger works his magic.

[Heyward]

They are. Only Jace is apart of the offense though.

Technically Nick is as well

[thethe]

They are. Only Jace is apart of the offense though.

I was talking about the rebuild primarily.

Maybin is part of that rebuild as well.

Getting Setizer was part of the rebuild as well (move by management) and Simmons performing better could be correlated to that hiring. Markakis instilling a professionalism at the plate (sure some will laugh..).

There are a lot of things working right now and its fun to watch.

[Heyward]

I agree with you in that last year's team needed to be blown up (not everyone thinks so; I was trying to be diplomatic). My last point is that we're still only a quarter of the way through the season and there's nothing to say that we couldn't duplicate our collapse of last year. Hope not but there are no guarantees.

As long as there are good signs of young players (Wood, Julio, Miller, Folty, eventually Wisler if he comes up)

Guys like Jace, maybe Peraza if he comes up.

I dont think anyone on here would be too mad if we had a collapse and got a top 10 pick.

[thethe]

I agree with you in that last year's team needed to be blown up (not everyone thinks so; I was trying to be diplomatic). My last point is that we're still only a quarter of the way through the season and there's nothing to say that we couldn't duplicate our collapse of last year. Hope not but there are no guarantees.

There won't be a collapse this year because we won't be in a playoff race. Team is still going to win anywhere from 72-78 games. I've accepted that this year will not result in the playoffs but have hope for some special years afterwards.

[yeezus]

Sad thing is alot of people wanted to go for it one last time, most likely only a WC team given the lack of money to spend, among other things.

He's looked impressive though for damn sure.

Roger works his magic.

We would not have had the pitching to go for it. I think it pretty clearly would have ended poorly and the FO made the correct, albeit difficult, call.

[yeezus]

There won't be a collapse this year because we won't be in a playoff race. Team is still going to win anywhere from 72-78 games. I've accepted that this year will not result in the playoffs but have hope for some special years afterwards.

We just want progress from our young guys. Progress from Simmons, Peterson, Wood, Teheran, all of our prospects. And so far mostly all of it is going well.

[Garmel]

Just a left thumb sprain for Goose. Glad to hear it because it could have been a lot worse.

[Julio3000]

Filthy sequence to Ozuna.

[yeezus]

SHELBY MILLER RN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo97R0ib1CE

[chopdrew]

Shelby Miller might be giving the bullpen an extra day off...

[Heyward]

We would not have had the pitching to go for it. I think it pretty clearly would have ended poorly and the FO made the correct, albeit difficult, call.

Yep, if we went for it, the rotation would probably be something like Julio, Wood, Martin, Hale, Stults/Cahill.

With Minor out for the year.

:facepalm:

[thethe]

Filthy sequence to Ozuna.

Even better to Moorse.

Guy is a stud.

[yeezus]

WOW.
Just rolling thru the game.

[USMA76]

There won't be a collapse this year because we won't be in a playoff race. Team is still going to win anywhere from 72-78 games. I've accepted that this year will not result in the playoffs but have hope for some special years afterwards.

Therein lies the problem; I don't think everyone was willing to concede and that's why all the angst when we got rid of JUp, Bear, and Heyward.

That said, I agree with you. Frank Wren's monster needed a serious overhaul and if that means a mediocre season or two, so be it. I think the early returns have been more positive than negative. I also understand that others may disagree.

[Garmel]

When you have a guy throwing 96-97 MPH and hitting corners it's going to be a long day for the opposing batters.

[yeezus]

When you have a guy throwing 96-97 MPH and hitting corners it's going to be a long day for the opposing batters.

Actually, it ends up being a really, really quick day for opposing batters.
They get up, and they sit right down.

[thethe]

Maybin is part of the rebuild. How was he a throw in?

[Julio3000]

Maybin has been barreling a lot of pitches.

[Heyward]

Here's a good read on Miller:

http://www.si.com/fantasy/2015/05/12/pitcher-report-shelby-miller-atlanta-braves-st-louis-cardinals

[thethe]

Maybin has been barreling a lot of pitches.

The article I posted about the velocity he is hitting the balls certainly shows up when you watch the games. Guy just squares it up well.

[chop2chip]

The article I posted about the velocity he is hitting the balls certainly shows up when you watch the games. Guy just squares it up well.
He also has hit a ton of balls hard on line to the RF that have been caught all year. He strikes out more than you would like to see, but he walks, runs well, and historically plays excellent defense. I love having Maybin on the team.

[Julio3000]

Maybin is part of the rebuild. How was he a throw in?

We took Maybin to balance the dollars in the Kimbrel deal. He had been DFA'd by the Padres.

Dude, come on...and this is from a guy who wanted to get Maybin when they DFAd him.

[thethe]

He also has hit a ton of balls hard on line to the RF that have been caught all year. He strikes out more than you would like to see, but he walks, runs well, and historically plays excellent defense. I love having Maybin on the team.

He is essentially what we thought BJ would be. At least what I thought he would be.

[thethe]

We took Maybin to balance the dollars in the Kimbrel deal. He had been DFA'd by the Padres.

Dude, come on...and this is from a guy who wanted to get Maybin when they DFAd him.

Do you not think he is part of the future at this time? Guy is still super young and has always had tremendous abiliyt.

[nsacpi]

A big part of the offense doing better is Freeman and Simmons rebounding. CJ too before he got hurt. And some addition through subtraction in center. All things that could be foreseen as likely this past offseason.

[USMA76]

He also has hit a ton of balls hard on line to the RF that have been caught all year. He strikes out more than you would like to see, but he walks, runs well, and historically plays excellent defense. I love having Maybin on the team.

+1 on everything but the "excellent defense" part. He's looked too shaky in CF for my liking. IIRC he's had a couple of game-changing misplays in the outfield. He's a solid athlete so hopefully the defensive part of his game will continue to improve.

[thethe]

A big part of the offense doing better is Freeman and Simmons rebounding. CJ too before he got hurt. And some addition through subtraction in center. All things that could be foreseen as likely this past offseason.

That plays a role but so does Nicks 400+ OBP and Jace Peterson being a tough out. Likewise with guys like Maybin/KJ/AJ/etc...

This is not what hte offense would have looked like had we kept all the guys from last year.

[Heyward]

Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan
Even before Shelby Miller's no-hitter-in-progress, Atlanta looked like it won the Jason Heyward deal. Tyrell Jenkins solid at Double-A, too.

[chop2chip]

+1 on everything but the "excellent defense" part. He's looked too shaky in CF for my liking. IIRC he's had a couple of game-changing misplays in the outfield. He's a solid athlete so hopefully the defensive part of his game will continue to improve.You missed the part in your quote that includes "historically". I agree that he's been mediocre so far.

[USMA76]

You missed the part in your quote that includes "historically". I agree that he's been mediocre so far.

You're right in that he came in with a better defensive reputation than what we've seen so far.

[jpx7]

Do you not think he is part of the future at this time? Guy is still super young and has always had tremendous abiliyt.

He's shown real reasons to believe he could be—but there are also real reasons he hasn't stuck with a couple teams heretofore, despite his age, athleticism, and a need in CF for those teams. I think it's too early to tell what Maybin will mean long-term for the Braves, though any amount of mattering will make the Kimbrel trade appear even better.

[Julio3000]

Do you not think he is part of the future at this time? Guy is still super young and has always had tremendous abiliyt.

Oh, I think he could be. I've been as big a proponent of him as anyone here, if not the biggest. My point was that I don't think that he was targeted by the Braves in any meaningful way. He wasn't precisely a throw-in—taking him was probably conditional to SD's making the deal. So if he ends up as a contributor, awesome—but its more good fortune than perspicacity.

[thethe]

Shelby Miller doesn't give a fuhhh....He will go RIGHT after you.

[USMA76]

Sure is nice to have a laugher of a game so far (thanks, Shelby) so we can debate world peace, the Braves future, etc.

[thethe]

He's shown real reasons to believe he could be—but there are also real reasons he hasn't stuck with a couple teams heretofore, despite his age, athleticism, and a need in CF for those teams. I think it's too early to tell what Maybin will mean long-term for the Braves, though any amount of mattering will make the Kimbrel trade appear even better.

Yeah, there could be issues behind the scenes and somehting we would never know as fans.

I think his abilit to stay healthy has been an issue and hopefully one that is behind him.

[Julio3000]

Shelby Miller doesn't give a fuhhh....He will go RIGHT after you.

Dude is an assassin out there right now. His pace and focus and body language. . . everything. I hope Folty is taking notes.

[jpx7]

Justin Boar reminds me of the St Paul Saints' porcine mascot of a few years ago, Justin Bieboar.

Edit: Any idea, 50PoundHead, if the Saints are still trotting that set of trotters out there? Been a few years since I've caught a game in St Paul.

[thethe]

Oh, I think he could be. I've been as big a proponent of him as anyone here, if not the biggest. My point was that I don't think that he was targeted by the Braves in any meaningful way. He wasn't precisely a throw-in—taking him was probably conditional to SD's making the deal. So if he ends up as a contributor, awesome—but its more good fortune than perspicacity.

I can't just pick and choose players in a deal that I give the front office credit for. They get the blame for every player that fails and credit for the ones that succeed.

[thethe]

Dude is an assassin out there right now. His pace and focus and body language. . . everything. I hope Folty is taking notes.

If Folty did this he would be just as effective with his stuff.

[Heyward]

I think Maybin is a stop-gap.

Think Hart signs a FA outfielder, and trades Wood in a big package deal for another.

[keithlaw]

2 Maddux's in 3 starts would be pretty sweet.

[chop2chip]

If Folty did this he would be just as effective with his stuff.
If/when Folty learns to throw strikes like Miller, then he can get to this point. I've been super impressed with Folty so far.

[thethe]

If/when Folty learns to throw strikes like Miller, then he can get to this point. I've been super impressed with Folty so far.

Just has to get over early game jitters.

[Hawk]

Hahahahahahaha.

[The Chosen One]

Wow.

[jpx7]

I thought that was absolutely gone off the bat.

[yeezus]

SORRY STANTON

[chop2chip]

Glad we play in this ballpark today hahaha

[USMA76]

If/when Folty learns to throw strikes like Miller, then he can get to this point. I've been super impressed with Folty so far.

You're really going to be impressed with him when he develops greater command and a quality secondary pitch. I'm optimistic that both will happen and fairly soon.

[jpx7]

Wow.

(I continue to be amused by Hands Down! Don't Trade!.)

[Tapate50]

A big part of the offense doing better is Freeman and Simmons rebounding. CJ too before he got hurt. And some addition through subtraction in center. All things that could be foreseen as likely this past offseason.

Maybe so, but it didn't stop 3/4 of this board predicting that our offense would be last ranked offense by a country mile.

[Hudson2]

I agree. Not sure who. Maybe Braun or Marte (if they were willing to trade him)


I think Maybin is a stop-gap.

Think Hart signs a FA outfielder, and trades Wood in a big package deal for another.

[chop2chip]

We are at the point where Shelby throwing a Maddux would be a disappointment.

66.7 GB% today. The guy is on today.

[USMA76]

Does Todd Cunningham make Kelly Johnson this franchise's Wally Pipp? Dude looks awesome at everything.

[jpx7]

Maybe so, but it didn't stop 3/4 of this board predicting that our offense would be last ranked offense by a country mile.

Still time. :Bowman:

By the way: is a "country mile" something like a "city block"? Asking for a friend.

[jpx7]

Does Todd Cunningham make Kelly Johnson this franchise's Wally Pipp? Dude looks awesome at everything.

Based on where they can play, and how they've played thus far, I think Callaspo has more reason to worry than Kelly Johnson.

[Hawk]

****ing hell. My innards.

[thethe]

ANDRELTON SIMMONS!!!

[bravesnumberone]

GREAT PLAY SIMBA

[dak]

Nice choice by Ciriaco to let the SS field that one.

[thethe]

Maybe so, but it didn't stop 3/4 of this board predicting that our offense would be last ranked offense by a country mile.

And those same posters will never EVER admit they were wrong. Heck, some of them don't even post that much anymore. What a conincidence.

[jpx7]

****ing hell. My innards.

The defense is certainly earning its keep today.

[The Chosen One]

It's so weird to be on the other side of something like this. You know, sweeping the other team and not getting swept. :icwudt:

[Julio3000]

Glad Simmons is in there. If I were Fredi I'd have been tempted to put him in anyway.

[USMA76]

Based on where they can play, and how they've played thus far, I think Callaspo has more reason to worry than Kelly Johnson.

Based on the way Callaspo is going, he has reason to worry whether Cunningham does well or not. 8^)

[Dalyn]

Fredi will probably go to Grilli in the 9th to nail this one down. :FrediPuzzled:

[jpx7]

Glad Fredi let Miller hit there. I was holding my breath.

[thethe]

Glad Fredi let Miller hit there.

I'm not sure it was the right move.

[Julio3000]

80 pitches through 8. Mother****er.

[The Chosen One]

That guy Peterson sure can hit.

[50PoundHead]

What happened to Gosselin? I got an alert on my phone--something about day-to-day--but I didn't get the rest of the message.

[thewupk]

It's so weird to be on the other side of something like this. You know, sweeping the other team and not getting swept. :icwudt:

i see what you did there

[thethe]

What happened to Gosselin? I got an alert on my phone--something about day-to-day--but I didn't get the rest of the message.

Made a diving catch and his glove hand buckled under his body. Saying its a sprained thumb.

[Dalyn]

That guy Peterson sure can hit.

Glad Hart stepped in and got him back in the lineup.

[thewupk]

Peterson Power

[Julio3000]

What happened to Gosselin? I got an alert on my phone--something about day-to-day--but I didn't get the rest of the message.

Sprained thumb while making a terrific play at 3rd.

[Hudson2]

Miller is a beast. We won the Heyward trade hands down. Whether you're a Heyward homer or not.

[thethe]

Glad Hart stepped in and got him back in the lineup.

Can't believe he even had to. What an awful manager.

[thewupk]

Dee Gordon can play some second.

[Heyward]

GREAT PLAY SIMBA

ANd some people want to trade him, smh.

[Dalyn]

Where's Mercker when you need him.

[dak]

Shelby Miller now leads all MLB SP this year by a mile with a 0.175 BABIP against. Next closest guy is Francisco Liriano at 0.215. That is one hell of a low number.

[The Chosen One]

i see what you did there

You didn't see anything. It was already eaten. :Bowman:

[thewupk]

Miller needs a haircut

[Julio3000]

Just make an out and get the ol' hoss back out there.

Yes, I turn into Joe Simpson in moments of extreme drama.

[The Chosen One]

Glad Hart stepped in and got him back in the lineup.

Where did this happen?

[Dalyn]

Where did this happen?

Probably at a fancy restaurant where Fredi wouldn't cause a scene.

[thewupk]

Just make an out and get the ol' hoss back out there.

Yes, I turn into Joe Simpson in moments of extreme drama.

Freeman agrees with you. Awful swings.

[The Chosen One]

I will eat my crow on the Heyward trade RIGHT here if Shelby finishes this Complete Game Shut-Out.

I still love and miss Heyward though. :HeywardWut:

[keithlaw]

Probably at a fancy restaurant where Fredi wouldn't cause a scene.

He had the Honey Baked Ham cashier tell him.

[jpx7]

Glad Hart stepped in and got him back in the lineup.

Can't believe he even had to. What an awful manager.

To defend Fredi—for the one and only time—it probably doesn't help that the Front Office put him in a position where he might be managing for his job, when he's job should really be managing for results a couple seasons down the road.

[Heyward]

Scott Braun trying to jinx Miller

[Dalyn]

The Atlanta Braves Facebook page just **** all over this one.

[bravesnumberone]

The Atlanta Braves Facebook page just **** all over this one.

As did ESPN

[UNCBlue012]

COME ON MILLER

[Dalyn]

He had the Honey Baked Ham cashier tell him.

:happy0157:

[Julio3000]

What the ****, I can't even deal right now.

[Julio3000]

AJ says **** your defensive metrics .

[Tapate50]

this is insane...

[keithlaw]

lol

[The Chosen One]

WELL DAMN.

[thethe]

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[Heyward]

Gay

[UNCBlue012]

NOOOOOO

[Tapate50]

**** a monkey

[UNCBlue012]

STUPID FAT LOOKING DOUCHE BAG, BOUR

[yeezus]

are you ****ing kidding me...
justin ****ing bour?
of course.

[Krovahn]

Damn...

[The Chosen One]

TRADE HIM NOW WHILE HIS TRADE VALUE IS HIGH.

[Tapate50]

There is no God

[thewupk]

Gay

yup

[Dalyn]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/6057fd8655cba0a4893a3f799511e599/tumblr_mge69sZS8O1s2gg27o1_400.gif

[Tapate50]

TRADE HIM NOW WHILE HIS TRADE VALUE IS HIGH.

This is so great

[TDlxANDER]

He got Yu'd

[Julio3000]

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff511/poinsett/sheeeit_zpsc5254d10.jpg

[sentenza]

I hate Jason Bour.

[bravesnumberone]

**** THE GODDAMN MARLINS

[keithlaw]

Well at least he got the Maddux

[TDlxANDER]

Great, now they're gonna lose

[jpx7]

The fat kid spoiled the party.

I blame myself for the Justin Bieboar reference.

[Krovahn]

Hell of a game from Miller. What a performance.

[TURBO]

http://media1.giphy.com/media/4wMlW2RcOCVCU/giphy.gif

[jsebe10]

Fckn fat sht!! Ear hole that fat fck next time we play them.

[UNCBlue012]

FREAKING ACE THOUGH

[dak]

Outstanding game by Miller. Great to get the sweep going into the off day!

[Heyward]

That one stings.

Broken up by some scrub.

[Julio3000]

Miller is kinda good.

[Tapate50]

FREAKING ACE THOUGH

Lot of folks need to start reconsidering their take on that Heyward deal... Guy has stepped up his game here.

[UNCBlue012]

@RealCJ10: Well Braves fans, u have ur top of the rotation, ACE! And Shelby Miller is only half of the return that u got for Heyward. Congrats Shelby!

[The Chosen One]

Braves fans can't have nice things like that. The Baseball gods enjoy seeing us suffer though by letting it happen to us.

[thethe]

@RealCJ10: Well Braves fans, u have ur top of the rotation, ACE! And Shelby Miller is only half of the return that u got for Heyward. Congrats Shelby!

Jenkins has crazy stuff as well. I think its going to translate to more missed bats as he learns.

[thethe]

Lot of folks need to start reconsidering their take on that Heyward deal... Guy has stepped up his game here.

It won't happen. We should just bring back the Heyward trade thread and see all the ridiculousness that was in there.

[Heyward]

Braves fans can't have nice things like that. The Baseball gods enjoy seeing us suffer though by letting it happen to us.

This is true.

Kinda figured it would be broken up like that.

[holden]

Shelby Miller now leads all MLB SP this year by a mile with a 0.175 BABIP against. Next closest guy is Francisco Liriano at 0.215. That is one hell of a low number.

It is.

Also not sustainable.

(ducking)

[Heyward]

It won't happen. We should just bring back the Heyward trade thread and see all the ridiculousness that was in there.

Can i bump it?

[The Chosen One]

Considering the fact he didn't get the no hitter, I will NOT be re-considering my opinion that we shouldn't have traded Heyward.

I will acknowledge that trading for Shelby was the correct move. It should've been done for Jordan Walden straight up. :FrediWut:

[jsebe10]

It won't happen. We should just bring back the Heyward trade thread and see all the ridiculousness that was in there.

Please do.

Looks like we've redeemed ourselves from that Wainright mistake.

[Heyward]

It is.

Also not sustainable.

(ducking)


Obviously he's not gonna have a sub-2 ERA all year but he's been good all year, with the added cutter to his other pitches.

[CrimsonCowboy]

http://i.imgur.com/P6x0U.gif

[The Chosen One]

I was looking at my computer and I thought I heard Joe say "He'll be matched up against Horacio Ramirez". Erasmo. Phew.

[bravesnumberone]

**** the **** out of the baseball gods.

But so proud of Shelby. He went right after them all day.

I'm ready to say it. I 100 percent support the trade.

[jpx7]

Lot of folks need to start reconsidering their take on that Heyward deal... Guy has stepped up his game here.

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130407045413/glee/images/7/77/Never!.gif/

[thethe]

Please do.

Looks like we've redeemed ourselves from that Wainright mistake.

Its in the HOF discussion thread. Anyone can post in it.

[Dalyn]

I tell you one thing...Heyward will go his whole career without throwing even one Maddux, let alone two in a row.

http://i.imgur.com/mcWFQKe.jpg

[Tapate50]

http://media1.giphy.com/media/4wMlW2RcOCVCU/giphy.gif

This is just so ridiculous

[jsebe10]

Considering the fact he didn't get the no hitter, I will NOT be re-considering my opinion that we shouldn't have traded Heyward.

I will acknowledge that trading for Shelby was the correct move. It should've been done for Jordan Walden straight up. :FrediWut:

Haha yea because Cardinal brass is that stupid. You probably don't want to read this but I don't give a sht...I'm glad Heyward is gone. It's much more joy watching games like today than watching Heyward suck it up at the plate and do NOTHING vs lefties. So glad for this trade

[CrimsonCowboy]

I'm not home, but I was listening on my phone. Dog gone it!!!! So freaking close!!!!!! Still no Braves no-hitter since Mercker in 1994.

Nevertheless, way to go, Shelby. Heck of a job.

[jpx7]

I was looking at my computer and I thought I heard Joe say "He'll be matched up against Horacio Ramirez". Erasmo. Phew.

I think he did say "Horacio Ramirez" at least once earlier in the telecast, too.

[Tapate50]

It is.

Also not sustainable.

(ducking)

He can regress a ton, and still be a TOR starter

[The Chosen One]

He can regress a ton, and still be a TOR starter

Who do you think TOR will give us in a trade? Norris? Hoffman? Pentacost?

[benchguy]

Walden the DL Guy.....



Considering the fact he didn't get the no hitter, I will NOT be re-considering my opinion that we shouldn't have traded Heyward.

I will acknowledge that trading for Shelby was the correct move. It should've been done for Jordan Walden straight up. :FrediWut:

[50PoundHead]

Lot of folks need to start reconsidering their take on that Heyward deal... Guy has stepped up his game here.

I was mildly disappointed by the Heyward deal, but I couldn't understand some fans' outright dismissal of Miller. He didn't match his rookie statistics from 2013 when he pitched last year, but he was in the majors at age 21. Big, strong kid who could be something as he gains experience.

[thethe]

He can regress a ton, and still be a TOR starter

Yup, he is the leader in the clubhouse right now for the CY Young.

[sentenza]

Btw:
Can someone can tell me something about this Perez guy who will start on wednesday?

[USMA76]

Great to have a sweep when it looked like we were fading pretty badly.

[chop2chip]

Shelby Miller has done a whole lot to make the average fan forget about Heyward. That alone is very impressive considering how important Heyward was to the franchise for the last 5+ years.

[chop2chip]

The Braves are 2.5 out of the Wild card in late May. Even though I don't think we stand a chance to make the playoffs, that defies all expectations.

[Hawk]

Chip signing off with Maxwell Smart, and then accidentally saying it was a no-hitter ... just perfect.

[The Chosen One]

The Braves are 2.5 out of the Wild card in late May. Even though I don't think we stand a chance to make the playoffs, that defies all expectations.

Keeping the ship together. :FrediGreen:

[USMA76]

Chip signing off with Maxwell Smart, and then accidentally saying it was a no-hitter ... just perfect.

IIRC the actual Maxwell Smart quote should've been, "missed it by thaaat much."

[Heyward]

The Braves are 2.5 out of the Wild card in late May. Even though I don't think we stand a chance to make the playoffs, that defies all expectations.

If we had a more consistent pen, i think we could stay in it but thats not the case.

[jpx7]

Chip signing off with Maxwell Smart, and then accidentally saying it was a no-hitter ... just perfect.

But he looked real smooth pinching off that post-game bump on live television while saying Miller was "this close."

[jpx7]

Keeping the ship together. :FrediGreen:

Strong Lairds keep clubs prepared.

[zbhargrove]

I can't remember the last pitcher we had that could look so comfortable and so efficient late in the game. 2 complete game shutouts by mid May is super impressive. The adjustments he made starting last August and continuing to this year have been huge. People don't realize he's not the same pitcher.

[thethe]

Hah, somone actually likened the Heyward deal to a Babe Ruth deal. Awesome.

[The Chosen One]

I can't remember the last pitcher we had that could look so comfortable and so efficient late in the game. 2 complete game shutouts by mid May is super impressive. The adjustments he made starting last August and continuing to this year have been huge. People don't realize he's not the same pitcher.

Wood was doing it pretty well last year for a time. Same for Medlen in 2012 and 2013.

[WaitingFor2017]

Can we play the Marlins more often?

[Braves1976]

I hated seeing Miller lose his no hitter with two outs, what a tough break. That hurt, but Miller still pitched a great game and got the complete game shutout. He had been mostly a two pitch pitcher in the past but it seems he's becoming more than that now. He added the sinker late last year and seems to throw more cutters now too. If this continues I would be fine with looking into extending him at some point since he'll get expensive pretty soon anyway.

Also, great to see Peterson have good back-to-back days leading off after a tough first game at it.

[mossy]

@OvrreactingBrav: BREAKING: THE MARLINS HAVE ALSO DISMISSED THE CONCESSIONS GIRL FROM SECTION 204, THE TICKET GUY FROM GATE 2, AND THE FAN IN SEAT 24L.

[USMA76]

Can we play the Marlins more often?

It has to be in Miami since we're 1-2 against them at the Ted.

[Heyward]

Wood was doing it pretty well last year for a time. Same for Medlen in 2012 and 2013.

They went back to back CG shutouts of under 100 pitches?

Medlen might have gone one, i dont know about two.

[Julio3000]

**** the **** out of the baseball gods.

But so proud of Shelby. He went right after them all day.

I'm ready to say it. I 100 percent support the trade.

^

[Hawk]

Lol, I can't believe the Marlins fired Redmond immediately after the game.

[Tapate50]

Miller got Redmond fired! Or that's how I'm gonna think of it.

[Heyward]

David O'Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC
#Braves Shelby Miller is 5-1 with majors-leading 1.33 ERA ... and under contractual control through 2018.

[USMA76]

Miller got Redmond fired! Or that's how I'm gonna think of it.

Back to back complete game shutouts against the same team gets their manager fired?

[WaitingFor2017]

Fired for a 16-21 start while Fredito can have multiple miserable Septembers and hang onto his job.

[zbhargrove]

Wood was doing it pretty well last year for a time. Same for Medlen in 2012 and 2013.

They have had their moments when they could every once in a while... I don't ever remember them being as consistent as Shelby has been. Teheran was for a while. I remember Wood mostly being dominant for 5-6 innings and then struggling past that. You're right about Medlen... that one stretch he had was ridiculous for 12-13 starts.

[Hawk]

Can we have a moment to appreciate the game just pitched before going through the Miller is the second coming bull****?

[jpx7]

Can we have a moment to appreciate the game just pitched before going through the Miller is the second coming bull****?

Not sure the internets work like that ...

[Hawk]

Not sure the internets work like that ...

http://media.giphy.com/media/4MpIKSBvpPHRC/giphy.gif

[Millwood1Hitter]

Can we have a moment to appreciate the game just pitched before going through the Miller is the second coming bull****?

I just wanna know how it all ends for Miller? Whenever we get a young guy that shows so much promise it usually results in

Arm issues and multiple TJ surgery,
Shoulder issues that result in instant death,
Or a inconspicuous knee injury that appears to be nothing

I mean we are the Atlanta Braves, and JS did indeed sign a deal with the devil so that's that.

[Tapate50]

Can we have a moment to appreciate the game just pitched before going through the Miller is the second coming bull****?

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Unwad your undergarments. I think people are doing both.

[The Chosen One]

Maybe Jack McKeon comes back to the bench. lol

[Julio3000]

Lol, I can't believe the Marlins fired Redmond immediately after the game.

Whoa. Holy ****.

Loria is the biggest ****heel in MLB, and that's saying something.

[Braves1976]

Whoa. Holy ****.

Loria is the biggest ****heel in MLB, and that's saying something.

Yea, that was really cold.

[Hawk]

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Unwad your undergarments. I think people are doing both.

Saying that the Braves won the Jason Heyward trade because Shelby Miller almost threw a no-hitter is just straight blather, sorry.

It also seems to detract from the fact that Miller almost just threw a no-hitter. And has been pretty freaking incredible this season.

Like this:

Richard Justice
@richardjustice
Shelby Miller 1st pitcher in Braves history to open a season with eight starts of 2 earned runs or less.

or

this:


Richard Justice
@richardjustice
Shelby Miller threw 1st-pitch K to 24 of 30 hitters and had only two 3-ball counts. He was clocked at 93 mph or better 64 times, 95+ on 30.

[zbhargrove]

Saying that the Braves won the Jason Heyward trade because Shelby Miller almost threw a no-hitter is just straight blather, sorry.

It also seems to detract from the fact that Miller almost just threw a no-hitter.

Yes... the only reason people are saying we won the Heyward trade is because he almost threw a no-hitter... *most obvious sarcasm ever*... plenty of people were saying we won the trade before he even threw a pitch as a Brave.