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Garmel
05-20-2015, 05:30 PM
Rays
1. Kevin Kiermaier (L) CF
2. Steven Souza Jr. (R) RF
3. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
4. James Loney (L) 1B
5. Logan Forsythe (R) 2B
6. David DeJesus (L) LF
7. Asdrubal Cabrera (S) SS
8. Rene Rivera (R) C
9. Jake Odorizzi (R) P

Braves
1. Jace Peterson (L) 2B
2. Alberto Callaspo (S) 3B
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Nick Markakis (L) RF
5. Todd Cunningham (S) LF
6. A.J. Pierzynski (L) C
7. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
8. Cameron Maybin (R) CF
9. Williams Perez (R) P

nsacpi
05-20-2015, 05:33 PM
Williams Perez is gonna be huge tonight. Baby Harang.

Garmel
05-20-2015, 05:36 PM
Williams Perez is gonna be huge tonight. Baby Harang.

He might be bigger than Harang. Well, at least around the waist he is. :)

WaitingFor2017
05-20-2015, 05:49 PM
Can we please send Bethancourt down to AAA if he is not going to get playing time up here? Fredi is starting to get the picture by starting Jace and Maybin every game, but he is still clinging to AJ.

CyYoung31
05-20-2015, 06:04 PM
If Perez performs he could be a massive upgrade to our rotation.

CyYoung31
05-20-2015, 06:15 PM
Perez keeps leaving it over the fat part of the plate.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 06:19 PM
Perez keeps leaving it over the fat part of the plate.

He also threw nothing but sinkers that whole inning up till that last batter. He needs to mix in other pitches more.

WaitingFor2017
05-20-2015, 06:19 PM
Can't fall too far behind; their starting pitcher is a stud.

Millwood1Hitter
05-20-2015, 06:19 PM
Can we please send Bethancourt down to AAA if he is not going to get playing time up here? Fredi is starting to get the picture by starting Jace and Maybin every game, but he is still clinging to AJ.

I'm not going to disagree but what has Beth down to warrant getting any playing time, he has shown nothing offensively, and is pretty much proving that going forward he is nothing more than a career backup, Henry Blanco style. We aren't going anywhere this year, but going forward we really need to improve at this position if we are going to contend. I'm afraid that it's even pointless giving Beth a chance to show what he can do everyday besides defense, and it will further overexpose what we already know and might ruin his confidence. Sending him down also really accomplishes nothing. It would have been nice to trade the guy when he was highly thought of and had some value, but that seems to have evaporated at this point in time.

dak
05-20-2015, 06:23 PM
@mlbbowman
A scout told me Perez frequently tips his pitches. From the first inning, I gathered that when he winds up, he's throwing the sinker.

USMA76
05-20-2015, 06:23 PM
Perez on the mound and Callaspo hitting second...maybe the Rays will just forfeit the game to save themselves the embarrassment.

Julio3000
05-20-2015, 06:24 PM
Perez keeps leaving it over the fat part of the plate.

He's going to have to chew through the meat of the order if he's going to succeed.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 06:26 PM
@mlbbowman
A scout told me Perez frequently tips his pitches. From the first inning, I gathered that when he winds up, he's throwing the sinker.

No need to tip when all you do is throw the same pitch a whole inning outside of that one curveball to the last batter to get ahead 0-2.

CrimsonCowboy
05-20-2015, 06:26 PM
They just mentioned the Rays first base coach Rocco Baldelli. Shame that injuries hurt him so much. Had a chance to be a real good player.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 06:28 PM
Now he's mixing in a change-up with his sinker, so at least it's not just sinker everything now. The change-up led to a strikeout too.

dak
05-20-2015, 06:29 PM
Wow, that curve looked pretty impressive on the K from Perez. A little more of that, please.

Julio3000
05-20-2015, 06:31 PM
Nice inning from the big fella.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 06:31 PM
Perez has some pitches to do the job, he just needs to not tip them and mix them better unlike that first inning minus the last batter. He did much better that inning, good sinkers and change-up's too.

Garmel
05-20-2015, 06:32 PM
Perez has great movement on his pitches. I can see why they are high on him.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 06:33 PM
Wow, that curve looked pretty impressive on the K from Perez. A little more of that, please.

Yea, he can throw some good sinkers, change-ups and break off some good curveballs too. Just needs to do better at not tipping and mixing them up like he did that inning.

Garmel
05-20-2015, 06:37 PM
Looks like the Braves are not going to see many runs tonight.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 06:41 PM
Perez looking much better now, loved him following up that sinker with his change-up to get the lead-off hitter to ground out to second. And then great finish to the inning for the strikeout.

That said, I don't see why it took till the last batter in the first for AJ to call anything other than the sinker..

WaitingFor2017
05-20-2015, 06:44 PM
Get him over and in.

USMA76
05-20-2015, 06:45 PM
Unproductive at bat from Maybin.

dak
05-20-2015, 06:53 PM
Atta boy Fat Albert!

USMA76
05-20-2015, 06:55 PM
When Peterson came to the plate, Odorizzi had only thrown about 24 pitches. IMO this inning was set up by his long at bat that finally led to a walk.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 06:56 PM
Ordrizzi has nasty pitch that looks like a splitter. Good AB's by Peterson and Callaspo to get it tied. Not so much by Freeman though.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 06:57 PM
When Peterson came to the plate, Odorizzi had only thrown about 24 pitches. IMO this inning was set up by his long at bat that finally led to a walk.

Yea, he fought off some nasty pitches too. That splitter 3-2 before the walk I thought he'd strikeout on but he somehow got a piece of it. Great AB, what was it 10 pitches or so?

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 07:01 PM
Great curveball to strikeout Longoria by Perez there.

jpx7
05-20-2015, 07:01 PM
Ordrizzi has nasty pitch that looks like a splitter. Good AB's by Peterson and Callaspo to get it tied. Not so much by Freeman though.

Artist's rendering:

http://middlesexhospital.org/images/dmImage/SourceImage/8492161.gif

UNCBlue012
05-20-2015, 07:04 PM
We just tied it up. Come on dude.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 07:04 PM
Perez in trouble now but it came after he stopped mixing his pitches again. No more change-ups or curveballs after the strikeout.

UNCBlue012
05-20-2015, 07:06 PM
DP!

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 07:06 PM
There ya go Perez, good job! Fat boy was excited too. :)

Garmel
05-20-2015, 07:06 PM
Great pitching by Perez.

USMA76
05-20-2015, 07:07 PM
Freeman may be clueless at the plate right now but he did a great job starting that double play that got us out of a major predicament.

jsebe10
05-20-2015, 07:07 PM
Damn good pitching! Probably earned himself a beaming with the celebration, but who cares. Love the emotion.

nsacpi
05-20-2015, 07:07 PM
Baby Harang!

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 07:08 PM
I certainly see the potential Hart sees in Perez as I like his pitches, he seems to get in trouble mostly when he either tips his pitches or doesn't mix them up which amounts to the same thing. He has a good sinker with movement when he throws it low and for strikes.

jsebe10
05-20-2015, 07:14 PM
Que the Heyward comparisons..........now

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 07:14 PM
Nick sure is slow, a lot of outfielders catch that ball he just missed as it stayed in the air a long time.

Garmel
05-20-2015, 07:15 PM
Nick cost us there.

Garmel
05-20-2015, 07:19 PM
I'm so damn tired of everything the Rays hit on the ground finds a hole. So damn agitating.

UNCBlue012
05-20-2015, 07:24 PM
I love watching this dude. His off speed is better than his FB. Lol he's yet to really establish it.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 07:24 PM
Nice finish by Perez, good game as that is likely it for him since he had been pitching in the bullpen.

nsacpi
05-20-2015, 07:24 PM
I'm so damn tired of everything the Rays hit on the ground finds a hole. So damn agitating.

Baby Harang doesn't get agitated.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 07:26 PM
Baby Harang doesn't get agitated.

He sure gets fired up though. I like that about him too. :)

thewupk
05-20-2015, 07:26 PM
Colon is crashing back to earth tonight

sturg33
05-20-2015, 07:26 PM
Perez has some sick movement on his pitches

UNCBlue012
05-20-2015, 07:27 PM
Jesus. Get Tampa out of here. And no, stupid Fredi. Keep Perez in. I don't care what this dude does.

WaitingFor2017
05-20-2015, 07:29 PM
Hate wasting pinch hitters this early. With 2 out and no one on, you may as well let Perez hit, and then yank him if you are going to yank him. It's a tie game which could go to extras when you need bench guys.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 07:31 PM
And no, stupid Fredi. Keep Perez in. I don't care what this dude does.

Perez was on a pitch count shorter than normal since he had been pitching in the bullpen. So not really stretched out for starting, he should be able to go deeper next time though.

sturg33
05-20-2015, 07:36 PM
Hate wasting pinch hitters this early. With 2 out and no one on, you may as well let Perez hit, and then yank him if you are going to yank him. It's a tie game which could go to extras when you need bench guys.

I'm not sure if Fredi knows what extra inning games are... he's probably just gets confused and assumes the scoreboard operate messed up

WaitingFor2017
05-20-2015, 07:44 PM
Jesus, Fredi...you don't trust Avilan to get a soft hitting catcher out, and you will waste another reliever here?

nsacpi
05-20-2015, 07:45 PM
I'm not sure if Fredi knows what extra inning games are... he's probably just gets confused and assumes the scoreboard operate messed up

We do have Stults if it is a long game.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 07:46 PM
Jesus, Fredi...you don't trust Avilan to get a soft hitting catcher out, and you will waste another reliever here?

Fredi eats up relievers and spits them out, he knows no other way to do it.

thewupk
05-20-2015, 07:47 PM
We do have Stults if it is a long game.

which means the game will end pretty soon if we use him

USMA76
05-20-2015, 07:48 PM
No surprise that Fredi was kicked out of chess club in high school.

WaitingFor2017
05-20-2015, 07:48 PM
Cunniff's day is likely done after 2 pitches.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 07:48 PM
which means the game will end pretty soon if we use him

Eric "I give up a lot of homeruns" Stults :)

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 07:49 PM
Cunniff's day is likely done after 2 pitches.

If so he better count his blessings, that's a day off in Fredi's book. :)

USMA76
05-20-2015, 07:51 PM
If so he better count his blessings, that's a day off in Fredi's book. :)

Has Fredi's book been completely colored in?

WaitingFor2017
05-20-2015, 07:52 PM
Wow, Souza misplayed that horribly.

WaitingFor2017
05-20-2015, 08:02 PM
Cunniff could easily pitch the 8th with only 8 pitches through 1.1 innings. Since his spot is up this inning, he won't. Johnson time.

Julio3000
05-20-2015, 08:03 PM
Good effort tonight.

The Chosen One
05-20-2015, 08:04 PM
Someone let me know the answer to the trivia question. I was going with 2012 Prado Bourne Heyward.

USMA76
05-20-2015, 08:07 PM
So Geltz was a minor league juicer...interesting.

UNCBlue012
05-20-2015, 08:15 PM
Holy Jace.

Tapate50
05-20-2015, 08:15 PM
HELLUVA AB Jace!

thethe
05-20-2015, 08:15 PM
Happy with Perezs outing tonight. Hopefully he build off this and gives us another long term option in the rotation.

USMA76
05-20-2015, 08:23 PM
Happy with Perezs outing tonight. Hopefully he build off this and gives us another long term option in the rotation.

His steady diet of offspeed/junk pitches have great movement which means his "fastball" essentially becomes his changeup.

CyYoung31
05-20-2015, 08:27 PM
Someone let me know the answer to the trivia question. I was going with 2012 Prado Bourne Heyward.

2004 Braves is my guess.

Garmel
05-20-2015, 08:27 PM
Perez came up huge for us tonight.

USMA76
05-20-2015, 08:29 PM
Perez came up huge for us tonight.

Literally and figuratively.

nsacpi
05-20-2015, 08:29 PM
Perez came up huge for us tonight.

Baby Harang

chop2chip
05-20-2015, 08:30 PM
Jim Johnson continues to pitch well.

The Chosen One
05-20-2015, 08:34 PM
Watching Cedeno his stretch and delivery are just like Mariano.

Garmel
05-20-2015, 08:37 PM
Grill Cheese time!

stpeteirish
05-20-2015, 08:38 PM
Watching Cedeno his stretch and delivery are just like Mariano.

team is seemingly incapable of "adding on". Has cost us more than once this year.

USMA76
05-20-2015, 08:39 PM
No margin for error here; hope Grili's up to the task.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 08:46 PM
Good job by Perez and the bullpen tonight.

WaitingFor2017
05-20-2015, 08:46 PM
19-20 and back to the top of the rotation.

nsacpi
05-20-2015, 08:47 PM
Yeah. A well pitched game on both sides. Williams Perez was huge.

bravesnumberone
05-20-2015, 08:47 PM
Nice win. Let's see if Julio and Woody can get it together.

nsacpi
05-20-2015, 08:48 PM
Nice win. Let's see if Julio and Woody can get it together.

If they can't we can always send em down and call up Cody.

Braves1976
05-20-2015, 08:48 PM
Yeah. A well pitched game on both sides. Williams Perez was huge.

Baby Harang can now have huge post-game meal. :)

chop2chip
05-20-2015, 08:48 PM
This is the type of games a lot of thought the Braves would have to win this year if they were going see any success.

thethe
05-20-2015, 08:48 PM
Good win. Get them where you can.

Julio3000
05-20-2015, 08:59 PM
Two good bullpen nights in a row.

nsacpi
05-20-2015, 09:00 PM
Baby Harang can now have huge post-game meal. :)

Just hope the rest of the team doesn't have to starve like it did last year.

Garmel
05-20-2015, 09:01 PM
If Stults had pitched this game we probably would not have won it. I hope Perez can get us some more tough wins like this.

CyYoung31
05-20-2015, 09:33 PM
Just hope the rest of the team doesn't have to starve like it did last year.

We did have a feast or famine type team last year, with Harang and Laird doing most of the feasting.

Runnin
05-20-2015, 09:34 PM
Almost .500, baby.

http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzA1LzBhL2V4Y2l0ZWRiYWJ5LjlhZWY3LmdpZg pwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/f01f5d34/cc5/excited-baby.gif

nsacpi
05-20-2015, 09:46 PM
4 and 1 with The Todd in the lineup.

CrimsonCowboy
05-20-2015, 09:56 PM
http://i.imgur.com/P6x0U.gif

AerchAngel
05-21-2015, 09:35 AM
Just hope the rest of the team doesn't have to starve like it did last year.

Between him and Laird, was there actually any food left?