5/24/15 Brewers @ Braves

[Garmel]

Brewers
1. Luis Sardinas (S) SS
2. Gerardo Parra (L) RF
3. Carlos Gomez (R) CF
4. Adam Lind (L) 1B
5. Khris Davis (R) LF
6. Elian Herrera (S) 3B
7. Hector Gomez (R) 2B
8. Martin Maldonado (R) C
9. Jimmy Nelson (R) P

Braves
1. Jace Peterson (L) 2B
2. Cameron Maybin (R) CF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Nick Markakis (L) RF
5. Todd Cunningham (S) LF
6. A.J. Pierzynski (L) C
7. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
8. Pedro Ciriaco (R) 3B
9. Mike Foltynewicz (R) P

[Garmel]

No Braun or Ramirez in the lineup for the Brewers.

[nsacpi]

Expecting a huge game from Simmons.

[sturg33]

Markakis batting 4th still cracks me up

[The Chosen One]

Markakis batting 4th still cracks me up

At this point who would you want hitting cleanup? AJ is the only other guy who could be reliable. Even if Nick isn't hitting homers like we want, at least he's still hitting singles and a few doubles. So it's not a total waste.

[chop2chip]

Markakis batting 4th still cracks me up
How long is it going to crack you up?

[thethe]

Nick has done nicely in the 4 spot. Not sure why anyone would laugh at that.

[mfree80]

I would much rather have a good chance at a hit with a guy on base from my cleanup hitter than a lot of strikeouts with an occasional homerun. Nick has been very consistent, and really smart in the cleanup spot.

Right now he is proving to be a great choice.

[Tapate50]

I'd hit him lead off until that OBP comes down. Just me though

[sturg33]

How long is it going to crack you up?

Probably til he's out

[Garmel]

Folty was dominant that inning.

[Oklahomabrave]

Number aside Folty looks like he has made some solid adjustments every start.

[yeezus]

despite the K, good AB from Jace. take the count deep, make the pitcher throw pitches.

[yeezus]

Another good AB from Maybin. Back-to-back full counts, one ending in a BB.

[Heyward]

I'd hit him lead off until that OBP comes down. Just me though

Ideally he's a perfect #2 hitter but unfortunately we dont have the lineup talent for that quite yet.

[WaitingFor2017]

Maldonado has a cannon.

[yeezus]

throwing 93-95 to one batter, strikes him out. next comes up, starts him with an 84 MPH breaking ball. then pumps in a 95 right by him.

[UNCBlue012]

Please stop starting AJ.

[Hawk]

Please stop starting AJ.

Bethancourt should be starting today.

[yeezus]

Please stop starting AJ.

When he was hot, I understood. Now? I don't get it. Give Beth a shot, not only offensively, but to catch these young pitchers. Maybe they feel AJ helps a lot with younger guys, especially ones like Folty that are so volatile. But that experience is much more valuable to the franchise as a whole if it goes to Beth.

[yeezus]

Folty throwing harder as the game goes on, and keeping his pace good.

[UNCBlue012]

When he was hot, I understood. Now? I don't get it. Give Beth a shot, not only offensively, but to catch these young pitchers. Maybe they feel AJ helps a lot with younger guys, especially ones like Folty that are so volatile. But that experience is much more valuable to the franchise as a whole if it goes to Beth. Preach. That's what I'm saying. What they're doing makes absolutely no sense and is driving me insane. Beth goes 3-4, well, let's start him one in the next 4 games. Makes since.

[yeezus]

Preach. That's what I'm saying. What they're doing makes absolutely no sense and is driving me insane. Beth goes 3-4, well, let's start him one in the next 4 games. Makes since.

That's Fredi for you.
Another great, quick inning for Folty.

[WaitingFor2017]

Maybin needs to bunt.

[Garmel]

I hate it when we squander great chances to score.

[yeezus]

I hate it when we squander great chances to score.

Nick swung at balls 1 and 2 with 2 outs and RISP.

[yeezus]

very nice by Jace.

[yeezus]

yikes, that was close.
even when folty throws a ball, it's a productive pitch and is right around the plate. super efficient today.

[WaitingFor2017]

This team needed to play ABC baseball. Cameron Maybin should've laid down a bunt to get runners 2nd-3rd with 1 out for Freeman and Markakis. Who knows, maybe Maybin beats out a bunt for a single or he gets a runner doubled off on a bunt. We'll never know.

[sturg33]

Folty looking great but this lineup is kind of a joke

[Hawk]

Folty looking great but this lineup is kind of a joke

Which one?

[yeezus]

Folty looking great but this lineup is kind of a joke

It is, but oh well. Can only pitch to the lineup in front of you. Could be a good confidence builder, as he's able to pitch exactly how he wants because he doesn't have to worry about many great hitters.

[sturg33]

Which one?

True. The Braves offense is really starting to struggle as well

[The Chosen One]

Folty is on some type of awesome today.

[UNCBlue012]

I am all about some Maybin this year.

[smootness]

Man, Folty is near unhittable today. This is the start I've been waiting for, the kind he's capable of every time out. If he can just continue to command his fastball, he's going to be really, really, really good.

[yeezus]

10000% need more than 1 one this inning.

[WaitingFor2017]

Shortstop could've easily gotten outs at home and third on that play.

[nsacpi]

AJ

[CrimsonCowboy]

We'll take it

[nsacpi]

Simba

[UNCBlue012]

SIMBAAA

[yeezus]

We'll take it

Yup, we haven't had a bad day offensively just haven't put hits together.

[yeezus]

Just seeing Simba come up after the excitement of the previous play and not swing for the fences on the first pitch gave me a lot of comfort. Took a pitch and then drove a line-drive.

[UNCBlue012]

Gattis has a single, triple and homer today.

[WaitingFor2017]

Hurry back, CJ and Gosselin.

[nsacpi]

Might be broken. Hate to see that.

[Braves1976]

Might be broken. Hate to see that.

Yea, I wanted to see us hit him or Braun yesterday but I didn't want to see anyone get hurt (anything broken, etc).

[UNCBlue012]

Bruh. Wow.

[Julio3000]

Ciriaccallaspo is certainly not the answer.

I'm at the game today and damn, is Folty dealing.

[UNCBlue012]

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm incredibly excited to get CJoh back.

[Braves1976]

Ciriaccallaspo is certainly not the answer.


Yea, that is why I was so annoyed at not giving Garcia a shot. Plus Chris Johnson isn't the answer vs righties either.

[UNCBlue012]

That was a horrible read or whatever by Maybin. I'm surprised that was not an out. 2-1 on a sac-fly.

[nsacpi]

Hell of a start by Folty

[UNCBlue012]

Hell of a start by Folty

By far his best start of the season.

[Braves1976]

Bad line-up or not, Folty certainly was at his best today stuff wise and better command too. Hopefully today will build his confidence.

[smootness]

Hell of a start by Folty

Agreed. Glad we didn't pull him, that would have been dumb.

[nsacpi]

Shocked to see Folty hitting. 1 run game.

[Braves1976]

Good AB again by Peterson.

[nsacpi]

Good spot for Jace to try to steal one.

[Julio3000]

Folty's pitch count is low, and he's still sharp.

[Garmel]

Ugh! Bad luck there.

[nsacpi]

Well done Luis Avilan.

[Garmel]

Over .500!

[50PoundHead]

Looks like a good start by Foltynewicz. Hope he can keep building on things.

[Braves1976]

Good win, now the test will come against the Dodgers and Giants. If we could play the Marlins in Miami and Brewers a lot more, I could see us making the playoffs. Can we set-up our schedule that way? :)

[chop2chip]

Not enough has been said about the job Grilli has done this year. He came in filling some of the biggest shoes in closer history, on short notice. He's done nothing but impress and you have to love his emotion.

[JusticeForAll23]

Not very often you see a team win 3 out of a 4-game series and come away with a 0 RD for the series. Stupid 11-0 game. Still, can't complain about winning 3 of 4, especially this year.

[Garmel]

Good win, now the test will come against the Dodgers and Giants. If we could play the Marlins in Miami and Brewers a lot more, I could see us making the playoffs. Can we set-up our schedule that way? :)

Yeah, I like that. Play the Marlins on the road for a series and then the Brewers at home and keep alternating.:rock:

[cajunrevenge]

I wasn't all that high on Folty when we traded for him but even before today he has impressed me. I thought he would end up a closer but he is definitely a starter.

[Braves1976]

Yeah, I like that. Play the Marlins on the road for a series and then the Brewers at home and keep alternating.:rock:

Sounds great, even Fredi couldn't screw that up. :)

[Garmel]

Well managed game by Fredi this time around.

[Heyward]

Good win, now the test will come against the Dodgers and Giants. If we could play the Marlins in Miami and Brewers a lot more, I could see us making the playoffs. Can we set-up our schedule that way? :)

We face Kershaw and Greinke :(

Believe we'll get Bumgarner in SF also.

Tough sledding.

[50PoundHead]

We face Kershaw and Greinke :(

Believe we'll get Bumgarner in SF also.

Tough sledding.

Chris Johnson will be back for the SF series. I don't fear Bumgarner because of that.

[thethe]

Man, Folty could be a really good one.

[Braves1976]

We face Kershaw and Greinke :(

Believe we'll get Bumgarner in SF also.

Tough sledding.

Yea, that will surely be a test. Bumgarner proved in the playoffs last year he's the best pitcher in MLB IMO.

[depley]

so far Folty has impressed me, he has gotten better every time out and he is certainly a power pitcher, along with Miller is something our rotation has been missing for a some time. I am also starting to like Maybin, he seems to have embraced the hitting coach's philosophy and knows what he does wrong and wants to fix it. The upcoming road trip looks to be a tough one, will be interesting to see how they fare.

[50PoundHead]

I've been pleasantly surprised by the team. I predicted 71 wins and I still think we'll end up in the low-70s for a win total. But the team has played pretty smart and outside of his bullpen management--which has been inconsistent--I think Gonzalez has managed better than he did last year. When you consider that we've had a few injuries and Stults and Cahill haven't performed well, I would have never expected us to be near .500 at this point (even with the 5-0 start).

[thethe]

Ok, so serious discussion here. If Miller/Folty keep pitching well into late July then what? I think the plans have to change slightly if you are getting this type of dominant pitching. Again, it has to happen first but I think the whole mindset needs to be adjusted. Two power arms like this may only last for 2-3 years until their arms blows. What if this is one of the rare years where they stay healthy all season? Can you pass up that opportunity?

I'm not asking for a "win-now" deal but a deal that would impact multiple seasons could be an option.

[nsacpi]

Looks like CJ will be back for the Giants series. Right now we are carrying 13 pitchers. My guess is Stults will be DFAed.

[thethe]

Looks like CJ will be back for the Giants series. Right now we are carrying 13 pitchers. My guess is Stults will be DFAed.

I think you could buy some time and DFA EYJ first.

Stults may actually provide something of value in the next week or so.

[nsacpi]

Ok, so serious discussion here. If Miller/Folty keep pitching well into late July then what? I think the plans have to change slightly if you are getting this type of dominant pitching. Again, it has to happen first but I think the whole mindset needs to be adjusted. Two power arms like this may only last for 2-3 years until their arms blows. What if this is one of the rare years where they stay healthy all season? Can you pass up that opportunity?

I'm not asking for a "win-now" deal but a deal that would impact multiple seasons could be an option.

I think if we are above .500 in late July, the front office will be looking to plug some weaknesses and that we won't see guys like AJ and Grilli get flipped. Every season is precious and you really shouldn't punt unless you project to be well out of it along the win curve.

[50PoundHead]

Ok, so serious discussion here. If Miller/Folty keep pitching well into late July then what? I think the plans have to change slightly if you are getting this type of dominant pitching. Again, it has to happen first but I think the whole mindset needs to be adjusted. Two power arms like this may only last for 2-3 years until their arms blows. What if this is one of the rare years where they stay healthy all season? Can you pass up that opportunity?

I'm not asking for a "win-now" deal but a deal that would impact multiple seasons could be an option.

I could see doing something at the edges as in a true rental that would upgrade LF or 3B. LF is probably easier to upgrade.

[thethe]

I could see doing something at the edges as in a true rental that would upgrade LF or 3B. LF is probably easier to upgrade.

Rent Justin Upton for two months?

Send them back Dustin Peterson maybe...

[thethe]

I think if we are above .500 in late July, the front office will be looking to plug some weaknesses and that we won't see guys like AJ and Grilli get flipped. Every season is precious and you really shouldn't punt unless you project to be well out of it along the win curve.

Based on the ceilings of guys like Miller/Folty would you go for it if the Braves are say 8 games over 500 by July 25th?

This is of course if both are continuing to pitch well.

[nsacpi]

I could see doing something at the edges as in a true rental that would upgrade LF or 3B. LF is probably easier to upgrade.

One guy whose name crossed my mind recently is Zobrist.

[nsacpi]

Based on the ceilings of guys like Miller/Folty would you go for it if the Braves are say 8 games over 500 by July 25th?

This is of course if both are continuing to pitch well.

I've felt all along that with a core of Freeman and Simmons, we would be in it with a half decent supporting cast. The supporting cast has been overperforming, but wins are wins and we can take what we have so far to the bank. If we are still in a decent position (.500 or better) in July, I think we should look to fill in some weaknesses. Left and third are the logical spots for an upgrade. KJ and Cunningham have given us great production, but I'd rather not be counting heavily on those two or any of the in house options at left and third.

[Hudson2]

I'd still see if Braun was available and how much money they'd eat.

[50PoundHead]

One guy whose name crossed my mind recently is Zobrist.

He'd be a good fit and unless Oakland really turns it around, my guess is he'll have a new zip code in late July/early August. He'd be the kind of Swiss Army knife guy who could do a lot of different things and he'd be an offensive upgrade at either LF or 3B.

I don't think San Diego is going to unload anyone. My guess is that GM will stick with the plan until the bitter end (which conceivably could be his own). A lot of baseball left to be played. The J. Upton acquisition has worked out very well (understatement) for them in the short term. The Kemp acquisition not so much.

[nsacpi]

I'd still see if Braun was available and how much money they'd eat.

The money issue is the key, but yeah I'd be open to someone like that. Or Bautista if the Jays fade out of it.

[nsacpi]

He'd be a good fit and unless Oakland really turns it around, my guess is he'll have a new zip code in late July/early August. He'd be the kind of Swiss Army knife guy who could do a lot of different things and he'd be an offensive upgrade at either LF or 3B.

I don't think San Diego is going to unload anyone. My guess is that GM will stick with the plan until the bitter end (which conceivably could be his own). A lot of baseball left to be played. The J. Upton acquisition has worked out very well (understatement) for them in the short term. The Kemp acquisition not so much.

Kemp is another one I'd be open to if the other team were willing to eat the right amount of salary.

[Heyward]

Good debate on trading for someone.

I'd still consider Braun if Mil would eat some of the deal.

Depending what it costs, i get his past but he's as good of a hitter as there is in the game.

This roadtrip will probably tell us if they can contend for a WC or not.

[USMA76]

Ok, so serious discussion here. If Miller/Folty keep pitching well into late July then what? I think the plans have to change slightly if you are getting this type of dominant pitching. Again, it has to happen first but I think the whole mindset needs to be adjusted. Two power arms like this may only last for 2-3 years until their arms blows. What if this is one of the rare years where they stay healthy all season? Can you pass up that opportunity?

I'm not asking for a "win-now" deal but a deal that would impact multiple seasons could be an option.

I'd sell my soul for a deal that would bring Lucroy to Atlanta.

[thethe]

I'd sell my soul for a deal that would bring Lucroy to Atlanta.

I think in order to get Lucroy the Braves are going to have to part with one Wood/Miller/Folty. Thats a tough pill to swallow even though its a HUGE organizational need.

[USMA76]

I think in order to get Lucroy the Braves are going to have to part with one Wood/Miller/Folty. Thats a tough pill to swallow even though its a HUGE organizational need.

I wouldn't think twice if they asked for Wood; Folty I'd have to think about and (right now) Miller's untouchable IMO. I guess I'm saying I rate Miller higher than my soul.

[Heyward]

I think in order to get Lucroy the Braves are going to have to part with one Wood/Miller/Folty. Thats a tough pill to swallow even though its a HUGE organizational need.

I'd trade Wood in a deal for Lucroy.

[WaitingFor2017]

Probably the toughest road trip of the year coming up. Hopefully the Braves can at least come out with a 5-5 split.

[thethe]

Probably the toughest road trip of the year coming up. Hopefully the Braves can at least come out with a 5-5 split.

I think if they were a game under it would be a positive.

[USMA76]

I think if they were a game under it would be a positive.

I'd have no problem with 4-6 and having our major west coast trip done for the year.

[WaitingFor2017]

I like getting all of the west coast games out of the way early in the year. I wish the team had already gone to San Diego and Colorado, but they don't go to SD until August.

[Hawk]

I think in order to get Lucroy the Braves are going to have to part with one Wood/Miller/Folty. Thats a tough pill to swallow even though its a HUGE organizational need.

I just wouldn't do it -- it looks like the Braves are potentially on the cusp of having an extremely high caliber (to borrow from Suspenders) pitching rotation. I agree that catcher is a position of need for the team, but they can get away with going with a strong defender at the position for a good while -- that, of course, would be contingent upon the team adding several strong offensive pieces elsewhere. I still think Bethancourt could be that guy.

I guess I'm just not crazy about dealing away the pitching surplus just yet, especially when they are all cost controlled and low-mileage arms.

[Oklahomabrave]

I'd trade Wood+ for Lucroy, but not Miller or Folty.

[Braves1976]

I just wouldn't do it -- it looks like the Braves are potentially on the cusp of having an extremely high caliber (to borrow from Suspenders) pitching rotation. I agree that catcher is a position of need for the team, but they can get away with going with a strong defender at the position for a good while -- that, of course, would be contingent upon the team adding several strong offensive pieces elsewhere. I still think Bethancourt could be that guy.

I guess I'm just not crazy about dealing away the pitching surplus just yet, especially when they are all cost controlled and low-mileage arms.

I wouldn't give up Miller or Wood for Lucroy but if they'd take a deal headlined by Folty and lesser prospects I'd do it. I'd trade a package including Folty and Bethancourt for Lucroy. That would still leave us with a top three of Miller, Wood and Teheran with Perez, Man-Ban, Jenkins, Wisler among others as possible options in the rotation next year. Plus we could sign someone this off-season to fill the 5th starter spot if needed.

[50PoundHead]

Kemp is another one I'd be open to if the other team were willing to eat the right amount of salary.

I'm thinking all-you-can-eat buffet-sized. He is the kind of guy that could get absolutely torrid for a month and carry a team. Curious to see what, if anything, San Diego does if they flounder completely. Obviously, some interesting parts on that team. Solarte is another guy who will be sought after. Asking price won't be that high and he could be a really nice bench guy on the right squad.

[Braves1976]

I'd trade Wood+ for Lucroy, but not Miller or Folty.

I totally disagree with y'all that value Folty more than Wood.

[Hawk]

Can anybody recommend a decent sports bar in the Greater Atlanta area to watch the Hawks game at tonight?

[Heyward]

I totally disagree with y'all that value Folty more than Wood.

Mechanics, and Folty has better pure stuff than Wood does.

But you probably value Wood over Folty and thats cool.

We all have our favorites.

[thethe]

Now is the wrong time to trade Folty. We need more information on his true value.

[Braves1976]

Mechanics, and Folty has better pure stuff than Wood does.

But you probably value Wood over Folty and thats cool.

We all have our favorites.

It isn't about favorites, it's about who gives us the best chance to win and who's the better pitcher. It's not even close between Folty and Wood IMO. I'd also disagree if someone argued for Folty over Teheran or Miller too.

[thethe]

It isn't about favorites, it's about who gives us the best chance to win and who's the better pitcher. It's not even close between Folty and Wood IMO. I'd also disagree if someone argued for Folty over Teheran or Miller too.

But that's just as of now. In 2 months we may be thinking something different.

Folty has all the tools to become an Ace.

[bravesnumberone]

If Folty maintains consistent control he can be very good.

[Hudson2]

Miller, Teheran, Wood, Folty is how the SP are ranked for me. And if Folty has a couple of more starts like today's then he's tied with Wood. But right now I wouldn't trade any of them and offer Jenkins or others instead.

[Braves1976]

But that's just as of now. In 2 months we may be thinking something different.

Folty has all the tools to become an Ace.

I disagree, big velocity doesn't make an ace.

[Heyward]

It isn't about favorites, it's about who gives us the best chance to win and who's the better pitcher. It's not even close between Folty and Wood IMO. I'd also disagree if someone argued for Folty over Teheran or Miller too.

Folty has barely started this year, so we dont even know what we have in him.

Stuff wise, he might have the best pure stuff on the team.

[nsacpi]

Miller, Teheran, Wood, Folty is how the SP are ranked for me. And if Folty has a couple of more starts like today's then he's tied with Wood. But right now I wouldn't trade any of them and offer Jenkins or others instead.
How could u overlook Baby Harang. He was huge in his last start.

[Hudson2]

He was def huge...and he pitched well haha. I'll give Perez a few more starts to see what he has.


How could u overlook Baby Harang. He was huge in his last start.

[Braves1976]

How could u overlook Baby Harang. He was huge in his last start.

I doubt Baby Harang has much trade value but he was huge his last start. He should be huge tomorrow too, hopefully in more ways than one. :)

[nsacpi]

I doubt Baby Harang has much trade value but he was huge his last start. He should be huge tomorrow too, hopefully in more ways than one. :)
He's gonna be the biggest thing ever to hit LA.

[thethe]

I disagree, big velocity doesn't make an ace.

Agreed. If all I saw was velocity then I wouldn't be saying this. I've been really impressed so far with the total package. I need to see more before I make a decision on whether to keep him or not. At the very least till the end of 2016.

[Braves1976]

Agreed. If all I saw was velocity then I wouldn't be saying this. I've been really impressed so far with the total package. I need to see more before I make a decision on whether to keep him or not. At the very least till the end of 2016.

If we were talking about Shelby Miller I'd agree, but I am not seeing that potential with Folty so far. He did look better today but he was facing a bad team without two of their best hitters too. I am not ruling out him improving or anything like that. However, I am very much disagreeing with talking about him as if he's better than Alex Wood or any of our top three starters for that matter.

[zbhargrove]

Folty reminds me of Scherzer as a prospect. Everyone knew he had the velocity and he was never ranked very high in the prospect rankings... But he always had that potential to be absolutely dominant if he could develop and control his secondary stuff. Now he does and now he's a stud. They are VERY similar prospect wise. And no I am not saying he will be another Scherzer even though I'm sure someone will quote me as saying that.

[zbhargrove]

Folty was ranked like 49 nationally and I think Scherzer was only ranked in the 60s

[thethe]

If we were talking about Shelby Miller I'd agree, but I am not seeing that potential with Folty so far. He did look better today but he was facing a bad team without two of their best hitters too. I am not ruling out him improving or anything like that. However, I am very much disagreeing with talking about him as if he's better than Alex Wood or any of our top three starters for that matter.

Is anyone is saying that he is better than any of them currently? In terms of overall value I think its much closer.

[jpx7]

Folty reminds me of Scherzer as a prospect. Everyone knew he had the velocity and he was never ranked very high in the prospect rankings... But he always had that potential to be absolutely dominant if he could develop and control his secondary stuff. Now he does and now he's a stud. They are VERY similar prospect wise. And yes I am saying I have reason to believe he will be another Scherzer.

Better than Scherzer, you say? :Bowman:

[smootness]

Is anyone is saying that he is better than any of them currently? In terms of overall value I think its much closer.

I, for one, think Folty has a higher ceiling than anybody else in our system, either in the minors or on the major league team. Miller included.

[CrimsonCowboy]

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[KB21]

This is just my opinion, but I wouldn't trade any of these young pitchers yet. I do not yet believe that the Braves are at a point where pitching is a system strength for them. At least not like it used to be. Before I trade anyone, I want to make sure we have 7-8 guys that could legitimately make the starting rotation AND be effective. This means, I have to see more out of Matt Wisler and Tyrell Jenkins before I trade Folty, Miller, or Wood. Mike Minor is damaged goods right now, so you might as well see what you have in him when he comes back.

IMO, the Braves need to get back to the point where they had several pitchers who were considered to be elite pitching prospects in the minors and then use those prospects as a means to get the position players needed. This is why my focus in the up coming draft would largely be on pitching. I'd take Tyler Stephenson at 14 if he is there and then go heavy with high school/JUCO pitching prospects.

[Deester11]

I, for one, think Folty has a higher ceiling than anybody else in our system, either in the minors or on the major league team. Miller included. Explain this one? This isn't only about velocity, but command, etc. He's got a high ceiling because of an explosive fastball. As a pitcher, he's not in the same stratosphere as Miller although he could get there. I'd venture to say, he's not got the highest ceiling (Opinion, yes). But we shall see I guess.

[zbhargrove]

Better than Scherzer, you say? :Bowman:

Lol I did enjoy this

[Runnin]

The Over .500 Baby
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[AerchAngel]

I would take three top of the rotations starters anytime . They will be better next year.

Miller
Foltz
Teheran potentially could be very very good.

Mill and Foltz can bring it consistently at 95 to 96 with devastating secondary pitches, that is ace potential.....like Smoltz

Teheran is of the Glavine mode, even though he could hit 95, but he doesn't so he tries to out think you, but that at times can be bad.

Wood is like Avery to me, good pitches, don't think much, would let you hit his pitches when offer and hope the defense works.

Minor an enigma, Shame Reynolds at times, pitch good and then crap. We haven't had lefties who strike out a lot of people since Spahn but I am not that damn old.


Stults and Cahill are like the Lockhart of yore, management won't release garbage veterans.

[thethe]

This rotation has the potential to be among the top 5 in baseball. I'd love to see if Perez can contribute but eventually that spot is going to be filled by a high end pitching prospects (Wisler/Banuelos/Jenkins).

2016 is shaping up to be a really interesting season.

[Russ2dollas]

This rotation has the potential to be among the top 5 in baseball. I'd love to see if Perez can contribute but eventually that spot is going to be filled by a high end pitching prospects (Wisler/Banuelos/Jenkins).

2016 is shaping up to be a really interesting season.

Hope that is right. I just don't see the braves doing it. They always seem to want to have a retread in the rotation.

I still think we look for major trade in the off season. I think we'll trade Wood or one of Folty/Wisler. But if not, then you want that 5th spot to be filled by Wisler so he's not a rookie and not on as much of an innings limitation in the magical 2017.

[atl717]

Folty is not similar to Scherzer at all. Scherzer dominated the minors. He is more like Eovaldi and Richards, hard throwers who lacked refinement. Richards developee further, Eovaldi has not.

[thethe]

Hope that is right. I just don't see the braves doing it. They always seem to want to have a retread in the rotation.

I still think we look for major trade in the off season. I think we'll trade Wood or one of Folty/Wisler. But if not, then you want that 5th spot to be filled by Wisler so he's not a rookie and not on as much of an innings limitation in the magical 2017.

With the arms in stock right now the only type of pitcher I see them bringing in is an ace. I don't see any end of rotation pitchers being signed when we have that production and more and league min.

[Hudson2]

I'm with you thethe. I see them bringing in an ace if anything and using a pitcher for a controllable lf'er. Braun and Marte are 2 examples. 1 depends on money being eaten

[Heyward]

Hope that is right. I just don't see the braves doing it. They always seem to want to have a retread in the rotation.

I still think we look for major trade in the off season. I think we'll trade Wood or one of Folty/Wisler. But if not, then you want that 5th spot to be filled by Wisler so he's not a rookie and not on as much of an innings limitation in the magical 2017.

There's no need for a retread when they arent better than Wisler, Manny, Sims, among others.

The only SP i could see them sign is if they got in on one of the aces in FA, and traded Wood in a package deal for a bat.

Signing a Stults, Wandy, Cahill type retread makes no sense especially given those are cheaper.

[Millwood1Hitter]

Exciting time to a Braves fan, things are looking and working out better than I even imagined. Only thing I wish was that Minor was healthy because 1) I really like him and he could help us now, and 2) I think a healthy productive Minor would have netted us a nice return in June or July from a contending team in need of another starter and I believe this was the plan all along, oh well.

Still think we will be a major player for Price or Grienke, and trade from our surplus of pitching to fill other areas of needs.

[UNCBlue012]

Exciting time to a Braves fan, things are looking and working out better than I even imagined. Only thing I wish was that Minor was healthy because 1) I really like him and he could help us now, and 2) I think a healthy productive Minor would have netted us a nice return in June or July from a contending team in need of another starter and I believe this was the plan all along, oh well.

Still think we will be a major player for Price or Grienke, and trade from our surplus of pitching to fill other areas of needs. I agree with you. A lot of people don't seem to think so. But, I see some of our new arms worked into the rotation, traded or sent to the BP. But I think one of those two could be holding it down next year.