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thethe
05-27-2015, 05:32 PM
Peterson, 2B
Maybin, CF
Freeman, 1B
Markakis, RF
Uribe, 3B
AJ, C
Gomes, LF
Simmons, SS
Wood, SP

nsacpi
05-27-2015, 05:40 PM
Expecting a huge game from Jonny Gomes against Greinke. Love the way Fredi goes with the gut rather than the platoon splits data.

Hawk
05-27-2015, 05:42 PM
Glad to see Uribe hitting the ground running.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 05:44 PM
Glad to see Uribe hitting the ground running.

Well ... waddling at least.

Hawk
05-27-2015, 05:49 PM
Well ... waddling at least.

Look! Uribe is doing wind-sprints in the outfield.

http://media1.giphy.com/media/CfdH0cYAj7BwQ/giphy.gif

Garmel
05-27-2015, 05:49 PM
Juan is going to be huge for us tonight.

Orphan Black
05-27-2015, 06:09 PM
Markakis hits his first homer tonight.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 06:11 PM
Markakis hits his first homer tonight.

I predict he gets close, total-base-wise: 4-4 with four singles, an RBI, and a run scored.

Julio3000
05-27-2015, 06:15 PM
I predict he gets close, total-base-wise: 4-4 with four singles, an RBI, and a run scored.

4-4 with four singles?

The famous Markakykle.

Markykle?

Dalyn
05-27-2015, 06:26 PM
4-4 with four singles?

The famous Markakykle.

Markykle?

Boomkaki

cajunrevenge
05-27-2015, 06:26 PM
I am going to have a hard time rooting for Uribe.

CyYoung31
05-27-2015, 06:29 PM
Expecting a huge game from Jonny Gomes against Greinke. Love the way Fredi goes with the gut rather than the platoon splits data.

To be fair, if Kelly Johnson were available Gomes wouldn't be in there tonight.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 06:45 PM
Hmm...

#GBraves Game 2 vs. LHV:
Peraza CF
Castro SS
Garcia 3B
Kazmar 2B
Nieves C
Kleinknecht 1B
Jones LF
Benson RF
Marimon SP

Hawk
05-27-2015, 06:47 PM
About damn time.

Garmel
05-27-2015, 06:55 PM
Not a bad idea to have Peraza play a little CF. If he comes up later in the year he can play CF and move Maybin to LF.

Dunit24
05-27-2015, 06:56 PM
IDK why im happy we got Uribe. IDK why im glad to see Gomes in the lineup again. BTW would yall risk Petersons development to place Uribe at 2B if CJ comes back strong and we are winning?

Hawk
05-27-2015, 07:01 PM
BTW would yall risk Petersons development to place Uribe at 2B if CJ comes back strong and we are winning?

My gut said no, but upon reflection I think I'd do it if it got Johnson traded quicker.

Braves1976
05-27-2015, 07:06 PM
My gut said no, but upon reflection I think I'd do it if it got Johnson traded quicker.

What makes y'all think Uribe can still play second base? He hasn't played it since 2011.

NinersSBChamps
05-27-2015, 07:07 PM
The trade is pointless. Why have Uribe and Johnson on the roster. They are getting about 12 million this season combined and they won't play at the same time.

Braves1976
05-27-2015, 07:09 PM
The trade is pointless. Why have Uribe and Johnson on the roster. They are getting about 12 million this season combined and they won't play at the same time.

The Braves would love to trade Johnson if they could find a taker and they'll likely trade Uribe too at the deadline if he improves his stock enough. Though they might keep Uribe should they find a taker for CJ first, doubtful IMO. Further, I am expecting Uribe will start vs most righties and CJ vs most lefties.

DirkPiggler
05-27-2015, 07:21 PM
4-4 with four singles?

The famous Markakykle.

Markykle?

Single to left.
Single to center.
Single to right.
Infield single (extra credit for a bunt).

NinersSBChamps
05-27-2015, 07:22 PM
The Braves would love to trade Johnson if they could find a taker and they'll likely trade Uribe too at the deadline if he improves his stock enough. Though they might keep Uribe should they find a taker for CJ first, doubtful IMO. Further, I am expecting Uribe will start vs most righties and CJ vs most lefties.

I guess that makes more sense then. I just don't like the idea of trading for players in hopes of trading them again.

MadduxFanII
05-27-2015, 07:46 PM
Todd Cunningham, Fredi. Todd Cunningham. Not Jonny Gomes. Todd Cunningham.

Julio3000
05-27-2015, 07:57 PM
My gut said no, but upon reflection I think I'd do it if it got Johnson traded quicker.

Uribe's gut says yes.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 08:01 PM
Todd Cunningham, Fredi. Todd Cunningham. Not Jonny Gomes. Todd Cunningham.

Too many letters. :FrediWut:

WaitingFor2017
05-27-2015, 08:10 PM
There's a reason Gomes has bounced from team to team since 2011.

Julio3000
05-27-2015, 08:18 PM
Too many letters. :FrediWut:

But skip, it has "ham" in it.

/GLaird

MadduxFanII
05-27-2015, 08:31 PM
There's a reason Gomes has bounced from team to team since 2011.

Charm and rugged good looks?

sturg33
05-27-2015, 08:55 PM
I'd put Uribe in front of Markakis.

jsebe10
05-27-2015, 08:58 PM
To be fair, if Kelly Johnson were available Gomes wouldn't be in there tonight.

So Cunningham isn't a good option?
Gomes fckn blows

jsebe10
05-27-2015, 08:58 PM
There's a reason Gomes has bounced from team to team since 2011.

Bingo.

Braves1976
05-27-2015, 09:14 PM
Good AB's by Peterson and Maybin to start.

Russ2dollas
05-27-2015, 09:21 PM
1St at bat for braves is vs former team with bases loaded...TV movie stuff

jpx7
05-27-2015, 09:23 PM
1St at bat for braves is vs former team with bases loaded...TV movie stuff

Except for the result.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 09:23 PM
Welp, trade sucks already!

jimsnores
05-27-2015, 09:24 PM
Eric Gregg strikezone. (RIP)

NinersSBChamps
05-27-2015, 09:26 PM
Lol this team

WaitingFor2017
05-27-2015, 09:26 PM
Welp... The result of that inning at least means the Dodger bullpen can dominate this lineup sooner than we originally thought.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 09:26 PM
This strike zone is rough. Alex better get it as well!

Uribe already doesn't want help though, I see.

jimsnores
05-27-2015, 09:27 PM
That inning looked like last year's Braves. (With help from the home plate ump....though that last strike might have been in the zone. No way he should have taken it, especially when he'd already established that anything close to the corner was close enough. The last strike to Freeman was the worst. Not even close.)

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 09:29 PM
A lead off hit already? Come on Alex. Be smart.

jsebe10
05-27-2015, 09:34 PM
And that's how you go after this line up. Don't tip toe around and hand your fckn curveballs

jsebe10
05-27-2015, 09:36 PM
God please DFA him.

WaitingFor2017
05-27-2015, 09:37 PM
I can't believe we all almost missed that amazing Jonny Gomes at-bat. It's a good thing we didn't get to see Cunningham face Greinke.

WaitingFor2017
05-27-2015, 09:38 PM
Callaspo and Stults are gone. Can the team please rid themselves of Gomes, Cahill (unlikely due to salary), and EYJR before the team returns home on June 5?

jpx7
05-27-2015, 09:39 PM
****.

Braves1976
05-27-2015, 09:41 PM
Did y'all see this?:

@mlbbowman
Juan Uribe: "I didn't feel bad about the trade. I would have felt bad if they had traded me to a soccer team or a basketball team."

Garmel
05-27-2015, 09:41 PM
Why is Fredi so damn determined to have Gomes face RHP? I don't get it.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 09:44 PM
So, Heyward is doing awful with the Cards and the fans are just all over him.

Julio3000
05-27-2015, 09:47 PM
Where the hell was Markakis on that popup?

Julio3000
05-27-2015, 09:48 PM
Did y'all see this?:

@mlbbowman
Juan Uribe: "I didn't feel bad about the trade. I would have felt bad if they had traded me to a soccer team or a basketball team."

That's pretty awesome.

Braves1976
05-27-2015, 09:48 PM
Where the hell was Markakis on that popup?

White boy is slow.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 09:50 PM
Where the hell was Markakis on that popup?

Uhm ... I think harried for years on end after he plundered the stronghold on the proud height of Troy?

The Chosen One
05-27-2015, 09:51 PM
Uribe going to be Surhoff 4.0

Guy that doesn't want to be here. 2.0 being Melky of course. 3.0 being Heyward.

zitothebrave
05-27-2015, 09:53 PM
Uribe going to be Surhoff 4.0

Guy that doesn't want to be here. 2.0 being Melky of course. 3.0 being Heyward.

No Jason just didn't want ot play baseball. Like Adam Dunn he's gonna retire at 29 to go pursue his real love. Not baseball.

NinersSBChamps
05-27-2015, 09:54 PM
Uribe going to be Surhoff 4.0

Guy that doesn't want to be here. 2.0 being Melky of course. 3.0 being Heyward.

So who is 1.0?

jpx7
05-27-2015, 09:54 PM
Uribe going to be Surhoff 4.0

Guy that doesn't want to be here. 2.0 being Melky of course. 3.0 being Heyward.

At least, unlike the other three, the crack cocaine kept Heyward svelte.

Braves1976
05-27-2015, 09:54 PM
Maybin!

sturg33
05-27-2015, 09:55 PM
Last 9 games the Braves have scored:

0
3
2
0
3
10
2
3
6

No homers in those 9 games. 2 nice games (one of which was aided by a flukey 7 run inning in Mil) surrounded by 7 duds. Averaging 3.2 runs in the 9 games. averaging 1.8 runs in the 7 duds.

Good thing baseball is going in this direction or I'd be worried our offense was in trouble


LOL and as I type this - Maybin goes yard

zbhargrove
05-27-2015, 09:56 PM
Would be awesome if Maybin finally realized his potential here

zbhargrove
05-27-2015, 09:58 PM
Last 9 games the Braves have scored:

0
3
2
0
3
10
2
3
6

No homers in those 9 games. 2 nice games (one of which was aided by a flukey 7 run inning in Mil) surrounded by 7 duds. Averaging 3.2 runs in the 9 games. averaging 1.8 runs in the 7 duds.

Good thing baseball is going in this direction or I'd be worried our offense was in trouble


LOL and as I type this - Maybin goes yard

Yet somehow we are still a better offense than last year by the numbers and you still refuse to address that...

jsebe10
05-27-2015, 09:58 PM
So, Heyward is doing awful with the Cards and the fans are just all over him.

How

sturg33
05-27-2015, 09:58 PM
I really think Maybin is a keeper. Unless someone overpays for him - I don't think we have someone in our system who is better - at east in the short term next two years

jpx7
05-27-2015, 09:58 PM
Yet somehow we are still a better offense than last year by the numbers and you still refuse to address that...

By which numbers, out of curiosity?

sturg33
05-27-2015, 09:59 PM
Yet somehow we are still a better offense than last year by the numbers and you still refuse to address that...


Yes we were doing really well this year when we were hitting home runs.

Tapate50
05-27-2015, 10:09 PM
Zack Greinke looks like a dept store mannequin.

NinersSBChamps
05-27-2015, 10:11 PM
Would be awesome if Maybin finally realized his potential here

Yeah I don't get it. He has all kinds of talent. Just needs to harness it and put it all together.

jsebe10
05-27-2015, 10:11 PM
Zack Greinke looks like a dept store mannequin.

He looks like Sharon Stone

NinersSBChamps
05-27-2015, 10:11 PM
Zack Greinke looks like a dept store mannequin.

Carlos Quentin hates mannequins.

Garmel
05-27-2015, 10:11 PM
Gomes and AJ just looked awful there.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 10:12 PM
He looks like Sharon Stone

And yet I hope he doesn't uncross his legs ...

Tapate50
05-27-2015, 10:12 PM
Maybin can play all three spots with pretty good D, brings speed, and some pop. I'd keep him around as the ultimate 4th OF/super sub playing often when his contract is done.

Tapate50
05-27-2015, 10:14 PM
He looks like Sharon Stone

But less manly

WaitingFor2017
05-27-2015, 10:14 PM
WTF Uribe. You have Simba behind you; not old Jimmy Rollins.

sturg33
05-27-2015, 10:14 PM
Uribe needs to learn who's playing to his left. This is not Jimmy Rollins anymore

zbhargrove
05-27-2015, 10:14 PM
By which numbers, out of curiosity?

Runs... By quite a bit

Tapate50
05-27-2015, 10:15 PM
Wood only topping out at 89-90 on the stadium gun ?

Julio3000
05-27-2015, 10:16 PM
Uhm ... I think harried for years on end after he plundered the stronghold on the proud height of Troy?

He was definitely detained for a while on that ball, were there divine intervention or no.

I mean, Penelope finished her veil and married one of the suitors.

yeezus
05-27-2015, 10:16 PM
By which numbers, out of curiosity?

wOBA, wRC+, AVG, OBP, SLG, less Ks, more BBs, + in base running instead of a minus, and our BABIP is even down this year.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 10:17 PM
Runs... By quite a bit

So, not "by the numbers" but "by one number". I'm not saying runs-scored is unimportant: I'm just clarifying.


wOBA, wRC+, AVG, OBP, SLG, less Ks, more BBs, + in base running instead of a minus, and our BABIP is even down this year.

Edit: Ok: that's interesting, as it at least might carry some predictive weight going forward.

CrimsonCowboy
05-27-2015, 10:17 PM
Zack Greinke looks like a dept store mannequin.

And his walk-up music is "Careless Whisper"

yeezus
05-27-2015, 10:18 PM
So, not "by the numbers" but "by one number". I'm not saying runs-scored is unimportant: I'm just clarifying.

All of these numbers, too:

wOBA, wRC+, AVG, OBP, SLG, less Ks, more BBs, + in base running instead of a minus, and our BABIP is even down this year.

and we rank higher in them relative to the rest of the NL than we did last year.

Tapate50
05-27-2015, 10:18 PM
A Gone is getting lucky on those tappers in front of the plate. That was a sac, and last was a RBI

Garmel
05-27-2015, 10:19 PM
Another squiber scores a run.

Prikichi
05-27-2015, 10:19 PM
So who is 1.0?

JD Drew

CrimsonCowboy
05-27-2015, 10:19 PM
RBI on a fluke hit

Julio3000
05-27-2015, 10:20 PM
Maybin has already trebled the WAR that Melvin provided over two seasons.

zbhargrove
05-27-2015, 10:20 PM
So, not "by the numbers" but "by one number". I'm not saying runs-scored is unimportant: I'm just clarifying.

Pretty much all the numbers except home runs... Is that better? Yeezus just supplied quite and exhaustive list. And how is runs scored not the most important number when talking about how good an offense is? How is the number of runs scored not the most important stat? You know, considering the point of an offense is to score runs? Still struggling with Heywards absence?

jsebe10
05-27-2015, 10:21 PM
RBI on a fluke hit

I'm telling you man, someone needs to get earholed. Plunk Turner or that gonzo looking goober in LF.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 10:22 PM
The dodgers are so lucky. They've scored about 9 runs against us in 3 days on luck. Lol

Tapate50
05-27-2015, 10:22 PM
Maybin has already trebled the WAR that Melvin provided over two seasons.

Bass on what?

jpx7
05-27-2015, 10:23 PM
He was definitely detained for a while on that ball, were there divine intervention or no.

I mean, Penelope finished her veil and married one of the suitors.

Watch for my new novel: Telemachy Extented.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 10:24 PM
All of these numbers, too:

wOBA, wRC+, AVG, OBP, SLG, less Ks, more BBs, + in base running instead of a minus, and our BABIP is even down this year.

and we rank higher in them relative to the rest of the NL than we did last year.

As you'll see, post's already edited to reflect such.


Pretty much all the numbers except home runs... Is that better? Yeezus just supplied quite and exhaustive list. And how is runs scored not the most important number when talking about how good an offense is? How is the number of runs scored not the most important stat? You know, considering the point of an offense is to score runs?

It's pretty flukey this early in the season, especially considering it's simply one indicator. You said "numbers," but then in response to my earnest question you provided a single number. Multiple indices obviously reduce the chance of flukiness and give me more faith that the 2015 Braves offense can continue to outperform 2014.


Still struggling with Heywards absence?

Obviously, yes.

yeezus
05-27-2015, 10:24 PM
Vin Scully is great, man.

Garmel
05-27-2015, 10:26 PM
I dread every time the Dodgers come up to bat. Can't help but think what kind of fluke bull**** is going to go their way.

cajunrevenge
05-27-2015, 10:28 PM
Maybin has already trebled the WAR that Melvin provided over two seasons.

Melvin had a positive WAR? :Gasp:

weso1
05-27-2015, 10:28 PM
I wish we could trade Heyward every season. It's the best.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 10:30 PM
Bass on what?

The Maybin is the bass and the bass is the treble.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 10:30 PM
Wow, Gomes.

thewupk
05-27-2015, 10:31 PM
Pretty much all the numbers except home runs... Is that better? Yeezus just supplied quite and exhaustive list. And how is runs scored not the most important number when talking about how good an offense is? How is the number of runs scored not the most important stat? You know, considering the point of an offense is to score runs? Still struggling with Heywards absence?

For one runs can be park dependent. The Rockies are generally among the league leaders in runs scored year after year despite not having one of the best offenses year after year. That's just one example. Another is a team could get super lucky with RISP to inflate their run totals. That's not to say runs scored isn't important because that's a given. But there are better stats to use (mainly team wrc+) when comparing it to another teams offense.

Julio3000
05-27-2015, 10:31 PM
The Maybin is the bass and the bass is the treble.

He's the treble without a pause.

WaitingFor2017
05-27-2015, 10:32 PM
Dumb challenge. There's not enough evidence.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 10:33 PM
I wish we could trade Heyward every season. It's the best.

Don't you have a storm to go chase?

USMA76
05-27-2015, 10:33 PM
Another defensive gem by our newest third baseman whose first error has already cost us an unearned run. Don't get me wrong, I want Uribe to succeed now that he's on our team but he botched his first two chances tonight.

Oh, well, at least Greinke will now have to run the bases.

zbhargrove
05-27-2015, 10:35 PM
For one runs can be park dependent. The Rockies are generally among the league leaders in runs scored year after year despite not having one of the best offenses year after year. That's just one example. Another is a team could get super lucky with RISP to inflate their run totals. That's not to say runs scored isn't important because that's a given. But there are better stats to use (mainly team wrc+) when comparing it to another teams offense.

Yes but I'm laying on my couch watching the game and too lazy to look up every single number since they have all been hashed out on the board numerous times already.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 10:35 PM
Ne Plus Ultra allows Greinke to steal. Somebody owes somebody a case of Michelob.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 10:35 PM
He did run the bases...

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 10:36 PM
Joc is really good.

zbhargrove
05-27-2015, 10:36 PM
Don't you have a storm to go chase?

Sigh... I miss grad school when I could chase storms whenever I wanted pretty much.

thewupk
05-27-2015, 10:37 PM
Yes but I'm laying on my couch watching the game and too lazy to look up every single number since they have all been hashed out on the board numerous times already.

Cool. It's clear this team is a better offense compared to last year right now. But that's mainly unexpected surprises like Maybin, AJ, and KJ at various times. Will that continue? Who knows.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 10:45 PM
Not a lot of juice in those rosy fingers ...

Braves1976
05-27-2015, 10:47 PM
These official scorers in LA stink, they gave Grienke a hit on that grounder to Uribe but Peterson had his infield hit in the 9th called an error even though it would've took a great throw to get him.

This is bull****, now the first error is a hit too so Wood is charged with that run and another hit against. I hate LA!

jpx7
05-27-2015, 10:51 PM
Horse**** scoring change. That was an error on Uribe, and should not be an earned-run hung on Wood.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 10:52 PM
This umpire isn't calling anything a strike.

jsebe10
05-27-2015, 10:53 PM
Swing the bat you fckn over achieving ginger Jew ridden bastard!!!

Braves1976
05-27-2015, 10:54 PM
Peterson and Simmons, best DP combo in MLB! :)

Peterson's DRS is up to 7 coming into tonight. Just getting better and better.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 10:54 PM
I never get over how great Simmons and Peterson are with DPs.

drewdat
05-27-2015, 10:55 PM
And his walk-up music is "Careless Whisper"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaoLU6zKaws

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 10:58 PM
I can't even imagine how hard of a game this must be for Uribe... And it's showing.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:00 PM
I can't even imagine how hard of a game this must be for Uribe... And it's showing.

But, to be fair, not as hard as a soccer or basketball game would be for him.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:00 PM
Freeman picked an absolutely awful time to suck at baseball. If there was ever one trip we needed him this year, this is it.

Like, he's nonexistent right now.

jsebe10
05-27-2015, 11:03 PM
Freeman picked an absolutely awful time to suck at baseball. If there was ever one trip we needed him this year, this is it.

Like, he's nonexistent right now.

Kinda makes you wonder who he is...I don't think he can handle the spot light like the franchise wants him to be. I think he's just a complimentary player. The office may want to take a look into a big bat.

cajunrevenge
05-27-2015, 11:04 PM
So when is a good time for Freeman to suck?

sturg33
05-27-2015, 11:06 PM
So, Heyward is doing awful with the Cards and the fans are just all over him.

He hit a game tying HR in the 9th today, and they eventually won

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:06 PM
Wow: somebody's parents had some conflicted feelings about their adopted Jewish child.

Julio3000
05-27-2015, 11:06 PM
But, to be fair, not as hard as a soccer or basketball game would be for him.

It could be worse, for sure. The Dodgers just flipped Callaspo to the LA Sparks for 3rd round draft pick in next year's WNBA draft. The Sparks assigned him on the taxi squad.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:08 PM
Great job, Alex!

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:08 PM
It could be worse, for sure. The Dodgers just flipped Callaspo to the LA Sparks for 3rd round draft pick in next year's WNBA draft. The Sparks assigned him on the taxi squad.

And you don't even know what the Dodgers got from the Nashville Predators for Juan Jaime ...

Braves1976
05-27-2015, 11:08 PM
Great job by Wood, should be no earned runs tonight if not for total bull****.

Garmel
05-27-2015, 11:09 PM
Wood was really hitting the spot tonight.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:09 PM
He hit a game tying HR in the 9th today, and they eventually won yeah, I saw that. Happy to see it happen! Fans were lighting him up on Twitter... Then changed their minds. Check it out, it's insane. I thought we were bad... Lol

jsebe10
05-27-2015, 11:09 PM
So when is a good time for Freeman to suck?

Never.

Julio3000
05-27-2015, 11:10 PM
yeah, I saw that. Happy to see it happen! Fans were lighting him up on Twitter... Then changed their minds. Check it out, it's insane. I thought we were bad... Lol

We're pretty bad.

Fredi Gonzalez
05-27-2015, 11:10 PM
If we get the lead I am bringing in David Carpenter. They don't have Uribe to bail them out anymore.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:11 PM
Beautiful, Simba.

WaitingFor2017
05-27-2015, 11:13 PM
If you're going to bunt, you may as well bring Teheran to bunt as a pinch hitter or leave Wood in to do it himself before replacing him in the bottom of the 8th. Why waste a solid hitter and fielder like Todd to bunt? So dumb.

Braves1976
05-27-2015, 11:14 PM
If we get the lead I am bringing in David Carpenter. They don't have Uribe to bail them out anymore.

Umm, if not for him this game is 1-0 Braves or better if you count his striking out in the first with bases loaded and one out. I'd say he's bailed them out in a different way so far.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:15 PM
So... Why isn't Cunningham starting? Fredi sucks.

Braves1976
05-27-2015, 11:16 PM
So... Why isn't Cunningham starting? Fredi sucks.

Fredi likes to see Gomes look bad vs righties?

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:21 PM
Good hustle, Jace!

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:22 PM
Good hustle, Jace!

Shouldn't have whiff-bunted at strike-two(/ball-four), though.

CyYoung31
05-27-2015, 11:23 PM
So Cunningham isn't a good option?
Gomes fckn blows

Not that great, albeit probably better than Gomes vs a righty.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:26 PM
Really... Really? We can't get a run in a situation as easy as that?

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:27 PM
Ugh. They're going to squander this, aren't they?

CyYoung31
05-27-2015, 11:27 PM
Damn, thought Maybin hit that well enough.

CyYoung31
05-27-2015, 11:27 PM
Ugh. They're going to squander this, aren't they?

It's the Braves Way.

USMA76
05-27-2015, 11:28 PM
Really... Really? We can't get a run in a situation as easy as that?

Nope because we always [defecate] all over ourselves whenever we play the Dodgers.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:30 PM
WP!

CrimsonCowboy
05-27-2015, 11:30 PM
That'll work

Garmel
05-27-2015, 11:30 PM
We'll take it!

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:30 PM
Nope because we always [defecate] all over ourselves whenever we play the Dodgers.

Now who's [defecating] on whom?

The Chosen One
05-27-2015, 11:30 PM
WOOOO

USMA76
05-27-2015, 11:31 PM
WP!

Wow, your broadcast is a good 30 seconds ahead of mine.

The Chosen One
05-27-2015, 11:31 PM
At least we got run in before Markakis came to bat.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:31 PM
This would be a hilarious moment for the first Boomkaki.

CyYoung31
05-27-2015, 11:31 PM
Some Mukaki Power would be nice right here.

CrimsonCowboy
05-27-2015, 11:31 PM
Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman 18s19 seconds ago
Instead of pitching around Freddie, it looked like Liberatore opted to throw over him.

USMA76
05-27-2015, 11:32 PM
Now who's [defecating] on whom?

Nice to see them screw up but we'll see how this turns out.

We've still lost seven of the last eight to these guys which just bugs me.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:32 PM
MARKAKIS!

The Chosen One
05-27-2015, 11:32 PM
At least we got run in before Markakis came to bat.
:Bowman:

CrimsonCowboy
05-27-2015, 11:32 PM
Nice!

CyYoung31
05-27-2015, 11:32 PM
Some Mukaki Power would be nice right here.

THERE IT IS!!!

The Chosen One
05-27-2015, 11:32 PM
Markakis with a little Boomkaki tease... "almost had ya, didn't I?" :FrediConfident:

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:33 PM
This would be a hilarious moment for the first Boomkaki.

Well, looks like he still only has that tripping-over-himself-out-of-the-box,-duck-snort-down-the-line power you're always hearing about.

The Chosen One
05-27-2015, 11:33 PM
Dodgers are silly. If they'd just pitch to Uribe, they know he'd just lay down for them.

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:35 PM
AJ is awful.

CyYoung31
05-27-2015, 11:35 PM
That 8th inning was liberating.

The Chosen One
05-27-2015, 11:36 PM
The Uribe Effect is in full force now for our team.

We're going to rack up 2 runs every 8th inning now when we're behind or tied.

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:38 PM
Dodgers are silly. If they'd just pitch to Uribe, they know he'd just lay down for them.

http://i.imgur.com/9198r9n.jpg

cajunrevenge
05-27-2015, 11:38 PM
There's no I in Uribe.

chop2chip
05-27-2015, 11:39 PM
Nick is a professional hitter.

The Chosen One
05-27-2015, 11:42 PM
There's no I in Uribe.

Juan Ja-I-Me

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:44 PM
The way he's going, the Braves may net two or three pitchers on TJS convalescence for Jim Johnson.

chop2chip
05-27-2015, 11:44 PM
I wouldn't trade Jim Johnson for Carlos Correa.

cajunrevenge
05-27-2015, 11:45 PM
I didn't like signing Jim Johnson but he is going to bring back a solid return if we trade him. A solid lefty catching prospect at AA or higher would be perfect.

The Chosen One
05-27-2015, 11:46 PM
The way he's going, the Braves may net two or three pitchers on TJS convalescence for Jim Johnson.

Braves are literally taking this "We Can Rebuild Him" thing into the team philosophy the next three years.

USMA76
05-27-2015, 11:48 PM
Can we please take Gomes out of the lineup--"veteran leadership" be damned.

CyYoung31
05-27-2015, 11:48 PM
I hope Fredi is watching this (regarding Gomes).

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:50 PM
Cunningham > Gomes.

CrimsonCowboy
05-27-2015, 11:52 PM
Vin Scully ‏@VinScullyTweet 10m10 minutes ago
"Well one thing about Atlanta, they're leading the league in Johnsons." #VinScully #Braves #Dodgers

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:57 PM
I didn't like signing Jim Johnson but he is going to bring back a solid return if we trade him. A solid lefty catching prospect at AA or higher would be perfect.

It better be when we trade him.

The Chosen One
05-27-2015, 11:57 PM
:FrediPuzzled:

UNCBlue012
05-27-2015, 11:57 PM
Not this crap again.

CrimsonCowboy
05-27-2015, 11:57 PM
How is that kid not playing every day for the Dodgers?

jpx7
05-27-2015, 11:58 PM
:FrediPuzzled:

Can we please get one with Dr Fredi wearing the reading-glasses?

The Chosen One
05-27-2015, 11:59 PM
Can we please get one with Dr Fredi wearing the reading-glasses?

Paging Dalyn

UNCBlue012
05-28-2015, 12:00 AM
What an idiot pitch, Grilli. Jeez.

CrimsonCowboy
05-28-2015, 12:00 AM
Oh boy

The Chosen One
05-28-2015, 12:00 AM
Gomes out in LF for... defensive purposes?

CyYoung31
05-28-2015, 12:00 AM
****.

Garmel
05-28-2015, 12:00 AM
Please tell me this isn't going to happen.

jpx7
05-28-2015, 12:01 AM
Should we bring in Kimbrel yet? :HeywardWut:

UNCBlue012
05-28-2015, 12:01 AM
Callaspo on deck. Hahaa could be fitting.

cajunrevenge
05-28-2015, 12:01 AM
Oh crap, a light hitting catcher. I've seen this move before.

NinersSBChamps
05-28-2015, 12:01 AM
Please please let Callapso hit a walk off.

USMA76
05-28-2015, 12:01 AM
Not this crap again.

CyYoung31
05-28-2015, 12:02 AM
Gomes out in LF for... defensive purposes?

In case they tie it up. Fredi wants his bat in the lineup for extras.

UNCBlue012
05-28-2015, 12:03 AM
Wow. Uribe about screwed that up,

jpx7
05-28-2015, 12:03 AM
Looks like the cast of Entourage is mean-mugging behind home-plate. That must be distracting Grilli.

The Chosen One
05-28-2015, 12:03 AM
LOL Uribe...

I'd forgotten you'd caught the last out in the 2005 WS.

NinersSBChamps
05-28-2015, 12:03 AM
Guarantee Urine is throwing this game.

CyYoung31
05-28-2015, 12:04 AM
Baseball is so apropos isn't it?

The Chosen One
05-28-2015, 12:04 AM
Callapso let's see how much you loved your teammates and Atlanta.

USMA76
05-28-2015, 12:05 AM
Somewhat surprised Mattingly isn't challenging the call on the force play at second...way too close for comfort.

The Chosen One
05-28-2015, 12:06 AM
You know Grilli... you keep throwing that fastball... it's 1-2 count. Mix it up.

UNCBlue012
05-28-2015, 12:07 AM
WHERE WAS THAT

jpx7
05-28-2015, 12:07 AM
Seriously: ****ing Elmer this ump.

Five
05-28-2015, 12:07 AM
Ump blows.

UNCBlue012
05-28-2015, 12:07 AM
Callaspo really did love Atlanta! Man, we needed that.

CrimsonCowboy
05-28-2015, 12:07 AM
http://i.imgur.com/P6x0U.gif

The Chosen One
05-28-2015, 12:07 AM
LOLOLOLOLOL.

USMA76
05-28-2015, 12:08 AM
Callaspo flies out on a 2-3 pitch.

CyYoung31
05-28-2015, 12:10 AM
WHERE WAS THAT

AJ.

jpx7
05-28-2015, 12:19 AM
Anybody else think Paul Byrd qua announcer looks/sounds like a Nuke LaLoosh that never made the Show.

Carp
05-28-2015, 12:51 AM
I really think Maybin is a keeper. Unless someone overpays for him - I don't think we have someone in our system who is better - at east in the short term next two years

Maybin alone may end up making the Kimbrell trade a success for us, regardless of what the other prospects we got in return end up doing.

thethe
05-28-2015, 01:45 AM
wOBA, wRC+, AVG, OBP, SLG, less Ks, more BBs, + in base running instead of a minus, and our BABIP is even down this year.

Lol...so just slightly. You can tell some posters are just waiting and HOPING that the offense starts to struggle so they can say "I told you so!".

thethe
05-28-2015, 01:46 AM
I'd keep Maybin and play him in RF. His arm can play there.

cajunrevenge
05-28-2015, 02:03 AM
I'd keep Maybin and play him in RF. His arm can play there.

I say we do this and just call him Heyward. No one will know the difference.

TURBO
05-28-2015, 02:08 AM
I say we do this and just call him Heyward. No one will know the difference.

http://media.giphy.com/media/TziYd1ClxHmiQ/giphy.gif

Runnin
05-28-2015, 05:16 AM
.500 BABY
http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzA1LzBhL2V4Y2l0ZWRiYWJ5LjlhZWY3LmdpZg pwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/f01f5d34/cc5/excited-baby.gif
Wood outduels Greinke!

Russ2dollas
05-28-2015, 05:42 AM
BR has Maybin at the same WAR he had all last year with Pads.

They also have him as a negative defender........does that make sense to anyone? Is he a bad defender?

I wonder how much his offensive value would dip if he was full time in RF or LF.

thethe
05-28-2015, 05:46 AM
BR has Maybin at the same WAR he had all last year with Pads.

They also have him as a negative defender........does that make sense to anyone? Is he a bad defender?

I wonder how much his offensive value would dip if he was full time in RF or LF.

I haven't seen a particlary good CF thus far. We could upgrade at that position defensively. I wonder what his defensive value would be in RF since it's a less demanding position. I think as long as Maybin stays healthy he will improve at the plate.

yeezus
05-28-2015, 06:39 AM
Cool. It's clear this team is a better offense compared to last year right now. But that's mainly unexpected surprises like Maybin, AJ, and KJ at various times. Will that continue? Who knows.

Right, which happens to every team, every year. Guys always come out of no where and produce.

thethe
05-28-2015, 06:56 AM
Right, which happens to every team, every year. Guys always come out of no where and produce.

People just keep on trying to qualify what is being done so far this year. It's amusing.

nsacpi
05-28-2015, 07:58 AM
We're doing very well in pinch hitting and hitting with RISP this year. We did very poorly in both last year. That's been a big change. I think it is a perfectly valid exercise to try to look at things from various angles to see what is likely to be sustained and what is not. Sometimes guys sustain a hot streak much longer than expected. For example, CJ's BABIP numbers stayed exceptionally high for all of 2013. Maybe we will continue to do well in certain categories for all of 2015. There are always a few performances each year that are several sigma out into the tail of their probability distribution. In analyzing how a team is likely to do going forward, you don't want to assume that continues.

yeezus
05-28-2015, 08:28 AM
We're doing very well in pinch hitting and hitting with RISP this year. We did very poorly in both last year. That's been a big change. I think it is a perfectly valid exercise to try to look at things from various angles to see what is likely to be sustained and what is not. Sometimes guys sustain a hot streak much longer than expected. For example, CJ's BABIP numbers stayed exceptionally high for all of 2013. Maybe we will continue to do well in certain categories for all of 2015. There are always a few performances each year that are several sigma out into the tail of their probability distribution. In analyzing how a team is likely to do going forward, you don't want to assume that continues.

No one is assuming it continues. But the stats show we are better this year, and saying, "yeah, BUT...." is more assuming it won't continue, which is also silly. Our approach at the plate has improved our hitting with RISP IMO. We're walking more and K-ing less, both fairly significantly, which is never ever bad. Our approach is undoubtedly better. That will usually lead to better numbers.

sturg33
05-28-2015, 08:30 AM
Lol...so just slightly. You can tell some posters are just waiting and HOPING that the offense starts to struggle so they can say "I told you so!".

While I'm surprised we've done as well as we have, it's been explained 1,000 times why. Pure overachievement from veterans that likely won't continue.

If our goal is to be better than last year's offense - we're not setting the bar too high. Keep in mind last year featured BJ Upton and Dan Uggla - the two worst players in the league, to go along with a horrifying Chris Johnson and Andrelton Simmons.

Replacing them with merely competent hitters has gone a long way.

yeezus
05-28-2015, 08:38 AM
While I'm surprised we've done as well as we have, it's been explained 1,000 times why. Pure overachievement from veterans that likely won't continue.

If our goal is to be better than last year's offense - we're not setting the bar too high. Keep in mind last year featured BJ Upton and Dan Uggla - the two worst players in the league, to go along with a horrifying Chris Johnson and Andrelton Simmons.

Replacing them with merely competent hitters has gone a long way.

Also not striking out constantly with RISP.
That's been nice, too.
Guys overachieve every. single. year. AJ has crashed down. KJ has been out. Maybin is simply hitting well (which he has done before). Honestly, who else? Our approach at the plate is undoubtedly better. Why do we refuse to acknowledge this?

And no one said the "goal" was to be better than last year. Some are merely pointing out that despite the radical change and the whining and getting rid of our "super stars," our offense is performing better so far.

thethe
05-28-2015, 08:39 AM
Also not striking out constantly with RISP.
That's been nice, too.
Guys overachieve every. single. year. AJ has crashed down. KJ has been out. Maybin is simply hitting well (which he has done before). Honestly, who else? Our approach at the plate is undoubtedly better. Why do we refuse to acknowledge this?

I dont get it.

gilesfan
05-28-2015, 08:42 AM
Maybin alone may end up making the Kimbrell trade a success for us, regardless of what the other prospects we got in return end up doing.

This cant be. You talked about how terrible Maybin was.

sturg33
05-28-2015, 08:43 AM
Also not striking out constantly with RISP.
That's been nice, too.
Guys overachieve every. single. year. AJ has crashed down. KJ has been out. Maybin is simply hitting well (which he has done before). Honestly, who else? Our approach at the plate is undoubtedly better. Why do we refuse to acknowledge this?

And no one said the "goal" was to be better than last year. Some are merely pointing out that despite the radical change and the whining and getting rid of our "super stars," our offense is performing better so far.

Certainly not striking out with RISP is helping a lot.

AJ has crashed back. KJ is out. And the offense is starting to really struggle.

Why is this hard to acknoowledge?

I do think Maybin's performance is sustainable.

Again - replacing BJ with Maybin and Uggla with Jace helps a lot.

KJ was giving us "Justin-like" production, which I don't think anyone believe will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

AJ was giving us all-star level production, which I don't think anyone believes will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

Simmons was giving us top 5 SS production, which I don't think anyone believes will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

The approach is better, FOR SURE. But we need to hit some homers every now and then and we simply don't have the hitters to do it.

gilesfan
05-28-2015, 08:49 AM
So far, the Braves are hitting .249/.315/.364 with 8.3% walk rate and 17.9% k rate. We are 24th in wRC+

Last year, the Braves hit .241/.305/.360 with 7.8% walk rate and 22.6% k rate. We were 26th in wRC+


We are essentially equal to last year....a slight tick ahead. The difference in runs scored is due to cluster luck, which isn't sustainable long term so we can just enjoy it while it last. It's not like players have a super power ability to "turn the lights on" when there are runners in scoring position.

Tapate50
05-28-2015, 08:49 AM
Certainly not striking out with RISP is helping a lot.

AJ has crashed back. KJ is out. And the offense is starting to really struggle.

Why is this hard to acknoowledge?

I do think Maybin's performance is sustainable.

Again - replacing BJ with Maybin and Uggla with Jace helps a lot.

KJ was giving us "Justin-like" production, which I don't think anyone believe will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

AJ was giving us all-star level production, which I don't think anyone believes will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

Simmons was giving us top 5 SS production, which I don't think anyone believes will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

The approach is better, FOR SURE. But we need to hit some homers every now and then and we simply don't have the hitters to do it.

Stop being so defensive. Baseball is a funny sport. Relax.

yeezus
05-28-2015, 08:51 AM
Certainly not striking out with RISP is helping a lot.

AJ has crashed back. KJ is out. And the offense is starting to really struggle.

Why is this hard to acknoowledge?

I do think Maybin's performance is sustainable.

Again - replacing BJ with Maybin and Uggla with Jace helps a lot.

KJ was giving us "Justin-like" production, which I don't think anyone believe will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

AJ was giving us all-star level production, which I don't think anyone believes will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

Simmons was giving us top 5 SS production, which I don't think anyone believes will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

The approach is better, FOR SURE. But we need to hit some homers every now and then and we simply don't have the hitters to do it.

Every offense goes up and down. We're not often going to go 10 games without a homer. No team does that often. What was our record in those 10 games? And even with the recent struggles, we're better across the board than last year. Simmons hitting to a ~.700 OPS is extremely sustainable; I'd say it's possible he's due for some more hits. Same with Freeman - he's been struggling of late. He can carry us when he's hot. KJ was not really giving us JUP production, that's some hyperbole. Maybe power-wise, but he's playing PT and always had some decent power.

Our approach is the biggest difference; getting rid of Uggla and BJ coincide with that.

gilesfan
05-28-2015, 08:52 AM
Certainly not striking out with RISP is helping a lot.

AJ has crashed back. KJ is out. And the offense is starting to really struggle.

Why is this hard to acknoowledge?

I do think Maybin's performance is sustainable.

Again - replacing BJ with Maybin and Uggla with Jace helps a lot.

KJ was giving us "Justin-like" production, which I don't think anyone believe will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

AJ was giving us all-star level production, which I don't think anyone believes will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

Simmons was giving us top 5 SS production, which I don't think anyone believes will continue (and it hasn't). But I guess I'm a hater for holding that view.

The approach is better, FOR SURE. But we need to hit some homers every now and then and we simply don't have the hitters to do it.


Not having automatic outs helps for sure.

Right now:

OPS+

AJ 98
Freeman 126
Peterson 75
Simmons 91
Callaspo 52 (gone)
Gomes 67
Maybin 118
Markakis 114


We have 3 hitters in the lineup that are above league average. I think Maybin can still around that number and Markakis can at least stay close to or above 100. A big bat at 3B or LF would help out tremendously.....we certainly need more power.

yeezus
05-28-2015, 08:53 AM
It's not like players have a super power ability to "turn the lights on" when there are runners in scoring position.

I hate when people say this. We sucked with RISP last year because our approach was terrible. It's better this year, and you can't really deny that. Putting the ball in play with RISP is better than striking out. I <3 strikeouts tho!!!

gilesfan
05-28-2015, 08:53 AM
Alex Wood is a stud. By far our best pitcher, imo. Lock him up.

gilesfan
05-28-2015, 08:54 AM
I hate when people say this. We sucked with RISP last year because our approach was terrible. It's better this year, and you can't really deny that. Putting the ball in play with RISP is better than striking out. I <3 strikeouts tho!!!


You hate when people tell the truth?

Putting the ball in play with runners in scoring position does not automatically make you a better hitter with RISP. It ignores double plays, extra base hits, etc.

sturg33
05-28-2015, 08:56 AM
Stop being so defensive. Baseball is a funny sport. Relax.

Who's defensive? I'm respectfully making my point.

yeezus
05-28-2015, 08:57 AM
You hate when people tell the truth?

Putting the ball in play with runners in scoring position does not automatically make you a better hitter with RISP. It ignores double plays, extra base hits, etc.

Is what you said a certifiable fact? It's your own personal twist on what's happening, not a fact. No, I don't believe "the lights go on" with RISP. We were terrible with it last year. Our approach this year is, IMO, making the number better. I won't say it's a fact, but it's an opinion with stats to support it.

Tapate50
05-28-2015, 08:58 AM
Alex Wood is a stud. By far our best pitcher, imo. Lock him up.

With no other LHP options, I agree.

I was a little worried about the velo decrease last night. But he is coming off a stomach virus. Usually takes a week or two to get back up to full strength.

Tapate50
05-28-2015, 08:59 AM
Who's defensive? I'm respectfully making my point.

Just sayin dude. Freakin relax already. Gah. :FrediGreen:

sturg33
05-28-2015, 08:59 AM
Every offense goes up and down. We're not often going to go 10 games without a homer. No team does that often. What was our record in those 10 games? And even with the recent struggles, we're better across the board than last year. Simmons hitting to a ~.700 OPS is extremely sustainable; I'd say it's possible he's due for some more hits. Same with Freeman - he's been struggling of late. He can carry us when he's hot. KJ was not really giving us JUP production, that's some hyperbole. Maybe power-wise, but he's playing PT and always had some decent power.

Our approach is the biggest difference; getting rid of Uggla and BJ coincide with that.

LOL.... every offense goes up and down. The majority of our run production was coming when these guys were significantly over performing their career stats. Since you for some reason believe that's likely to continue - have at it.

gilesfan
05-28-2015, 09:01 AM
Is what you said a certifiable fact? It's your own personal twist on what's happening, not a fact. No, I don't believe "the lights go on" with RISP. We were terrible with it last year. Our approach this year is, IMO, making the number better. I won't say it's a fact, but it's an opinion with stats to support it.

Yes, do some research on statistics.

thethe
05-28-2015, 09:02 AM
Braves offense being inconsistent has coincided with Freeman struggling. that will not continue.

sturg33
05-28-2015, 09:03 AM
The Braves are hitting .249 overall, and .289 with RISP.

Well, damn. Why don't they just pretend there's always RISP?

thethe
05-28-2015, 09:04 AM
The Braves are hitting .249 overall, and .289 with RISP.

Well, damn. Why don't they just pretend there's always RISP?

Because the game is different with runners on. For one thing the pitcher is delivering from the stretch.

yeezus
05-28-2015, 09:05 AM
Yes, do some research on statistics.

I know plenty about stats.
What you said is not even close to a fact. Maybe if you said "gilesfact" I'd agree. But not a real fact. Do you think our approach isn't improving our RISP numbers?

yeezus
05-28-2015, 09:06 AM
Because the game is different with runners on. For one thing the pitcher is delivering from the stretch.

And worrying about the runner stealing.
We have a better OBP and have had better base running (despite losing all-time great base-runner Jason Heyward). These also make impacts.

gilesfan
05-28-2015, 09:08 AM
Because the game is different with runners on. For one thing the pitcher is delivering from the stretch.

I had to explain to my coworkers why I laughed out loud there.