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Garmel
06-13-2015, 12:12 PM
Braves
1. Jace Peterson (L) 2B
2. Cameron Maybin (R) CF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Nick Markakis (L) RF
5. Kelly Johnson (L) LF
6. A.J. Pierzynski (L) C
7. Chris Johnson (R) 3B
8. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
9. Shelby Miller (R) P

Mets
1. Curtis Granderson (L) RF
2. Travis d'Arnaud (R) C
3. Lucas Duda (L) 1B
4. Michael Cuddyer (R) LF
5. Wilmer Flores (R) SS
6. Darrell Ceciliani (L) CF
7. Dilson Herrera (R) 2B
8. Danny Muno (S) 3B
9. Jacob deGrom (L) P

UNCBlue012
06-13-2015, 12:22 PM
So, let's get a win!

UNCBlue012
06-13-2015, 12:44 PM
I think that the lineup should be...
Peterson 2B
Markakis RF
Maybin CF
Freeman 1B
Uribe 3B
KJ LF
AJ C
Simmons SS

Garmel
06-13-2015, 12:49 PM
At least CJ isn't hitting 5th.

CyYoung31
06-13-2015, 01:09 PM
Fredi plays Gomes against the righty, sits him against the lefty.

I give up.

nsacpi
06-13-2015, 01:12 PM
Fredi plays Gomes against the righty, sits him against the lefty.

I give up.

DeGrom is a righty. The L refers to he fact he hits lefty.

nsacpi
06-13-2015, 01:12 PM
Expecting a huge game from the Andreltonian

chop2chip
06-13-2015, 01:13 PM
Fredi plays Gomes against the righty, sits him against the lefty.

I give up.
DeGrom has a left hand who happens to use his right one to pitch.

CyYoung31
06-13-2015, 01:17 PM
DeGrom is a righty. The L refers to he fact he hits lefty.

I see. In which case, he's still playing CJ vs a righty and AJ at all.

I give up.

nsacpi
06-13-2015, 01:25 PM
I see. In which case, he's still playing CJ vs a righty and AJ at all.

I give up.

I accept your resignation, thank you for your years of selfless service, and wish you nothing but the best in your future endeavors.

NinersSBChamps
06-13-2015, 01:43 PM
Fredi is hitting four left handed batters in a row! Did he lose a bet or something?

thethe
06-13-2015, 03:14 PM
Holy crap Freeman has massive power.

Orphan Black
06-13-2015, 03:16 PM
that ball was absolutely demolished

keithlaw
06-13-2015, 03:40 PM
Holy crap Freeman has massive power.

YOU ASSHOLES ARE JUST GOING TO KEEP RUBBING THAT IN AREN'T YOU

UNCBlue012
06-13-2015, 03:40 PM
Miller does not have the command today.'

TDlxANDER
06-13-2015, 03:49 PM
Fredi G sunglasses check.gif

Russ2dollas
06-13-2015, 03:50 PM
another jace double.....i'm coming around

thethe
06-13-2015, 03:52 PM
another jace double.....i'm coming around

It was weak shot but even still. Jace is a damn good baseball player.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 03:54 PM
Another missed chance.

Should have about about 20 fckn runs in the last 4 innings

Garmel
06-13-2015, 03:54 PM
Man, we've blown some scoring opportunities in this series.

thethe
06-13-2015, 03:55 PM
Another missed chance.

Should have about about 20 fckn runs in the last 4 innings

Last night was awful. But Degrom is one of the best 10 pitchers in the leagueif you ask me.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 03:59 PM
Sigh

Garmel
06-13-2015, 04:01 PM
KJ looks like he's taking outfield lessons from Gomes.

Garmel
06-13-2015, 04:01 PM
Nice pitching by Shelby to get out of it.

Garmel
06-13-2015, 04:08 PM
I know deGrom is a good pitcher but these at-bats we're having are awful.

thethe
06-13-2015, 04:20 PM
deGrom is so damn good.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 04:21 PM
deGrom is so damn good.

Don't bust that nut just yet...

We still got a few more innings left.

thethe
06-13-2015, 04:22 PM
Don't bust that nut just yet...

We still got a few more innings left.

I see him pitch a lot. This is normal deGrom.

Julio3000
06-13-2015, 04:28 PM
YOU ASSHOLES ARE JUST GOING TO KEEP RUBBING THAT IN AREN'T YOU

^nice^

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 04:40 PM
I see him pitch a lot. This is normal deGrom.

I'm sure.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 04:48 PM
Miller beginning to leave everything out and over the plate to these scrubs

Garmel
06-13-2015, 04:49 PM
Nice job, Shelby.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 04:49 PM
Nice job, Shelby.

Damn good.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:00 PM
Lmao. Have a fckn career Flores. Fck outta here.

Dalyn
06-13-2015, 05:07 PM
:HeywardWut:

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:08 PM
Bring the fckn infield in you idiot!!

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 05:10 PM
Mets take the lead on a fluke bloop hit

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:11 PM
DeGromm going to steal a win. Scrub ass Mets team loaded with arms but ****y position players.

Garmel
06-13-2015, 05:11 PM
Mets are one lucky freaking team.

57Brave
06-13-2015, 05:13 PM
fookin 7th inning

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:14 PM
Where do we find these God damn scrubs for our bullpen?

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:15 PM
We must take an ad out in the AJC looking for pitchers. I mean fck it, get that black chick from the AT&T first chick to pitch in the majors commercial.

thethe
06-13-2015, 05:15 PM
Man, Miller gave up 2 runs but that has to do with the bullpen as well. Freddi needed to go with him for longer than he should.

Rest of the year is going to be rough unless they find a way to patch this up.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:17 PM
Man, Miller gave up 2 runs but that has to do with the bullpen as well. Freddi needed to go with him for longer than he should.

Rest of the year is going to be rough unless they find a way to patch this up.

They can't patch that up dude. There's no way.

thethe
06-13-2015, 05:18 PM
They can't patch that up dude. There's no way.

Yeah, its going to be a rough remaining year. Having a bad bullpen is just about as deflating as yo uget. Braves are in all these games.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:18 PM
Plunk this MFer. Plunk him

Dalyn
06-13-2015, 05:19 PM
Yeah, its going to be a rough remaining year. Having a bad bullpen is just about as deflating as yo uget. Braves are in all these games.

I think all those 5-inning starts from the rotation early on wiped the bullpen out.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:19 PM
Damn. Just missed his fckn face

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:20 PM
Haven't heard that dump of a stadium this loud in years. Must be nice to be sh*ty for 7 years in a row and get to build up your starting rotation and bullpen.

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 05:28 PM
Safe

Runnin
06-13-2015, 05:28 PM
Not good Maybin.

buck75
06-13-2015, 05:28 PM
Saaaaaafe (I'd say)

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 05:28 PM
Maybin was safe but just barely.

Runnin
06-13-2015, 05:31 PM
I hate the Mets.

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 05:32 PM
Dang it Maybin:mad0182:

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 05:33 PM
I think Maybin was trying too hard to make up for his error and got too aggressive there.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:33 PM
Not smart baseball by Maybin and a fckn horrible AB by Freddie.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:34 PM
Lmfao. Clowns making diving stops

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 05:35 PM
Fredi getting schooled, pinch hits Gomes and in comes a righty. He should've just stayed with KJ as everyone knew the Mets had the righty ready.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:35 PM
Take notes Fredi. Terry fck head Collins KNOWS that your fck boy Gomes can't touch righties and he made a change.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:36 PM
Fredi getting schooled, pinch hits Gomes and in comes a righty. He should've just stayed with KJ as everyone knew the Mets had the righty ready.

Fckn stupid. Who does that!?!

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 05:37 PM
Fckn stupid. Who does that!?!

It's one thing to do it when they don't already have a righty ready, but doing it then just made no sense IMO.

LOL of course he gets a bloop hit vs a righty after I say that.

NinersSBChamps
06-13-2015, 05:38 PM
Runner on third with no outs. Only the Braves manage to screw that up.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:38 PM
Not the guy I want up here right now. AJ sucks.

jcc03004
06-13-2015, 05:39 PM
Anyone heard any more about the rumor they might bring up a starter to strengthen the pen? Any idea who ?

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:39 PM
Weak fckn groundball from that clown. Biiigggggggg surprise there.

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 05:39 PM
Not the guy I want up here right now. AJ sucks.

Well, at least we cleared for the 9th. :)

NinersSBChamps
06-13-2015, 05:40 PM
lol this team has such trash players on it.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:40 PM
Anyone heard any more about the rumor they might bring up a starter to strengthen the pen?

Yea. His name is Johnny Utah. He's selling cars at Landmark right now.

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 05:41 PM
Anyone heard any more about the rumor they might bring up a starter to strengthen the pen?

No, but my guess is Man-Ban is who they might be considering. He is already on an innings limit. But I don't want Man-Ban anywhere near Fredi..

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:41 PM
lol this team has such trash players on it.

Outside of Freddie, Maybin, Uribe, and occasionally Simba....who hits the ball hard on this team?i

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 05:42 PM
Yea. His name is Johnny Utah. He's selling cars at Landmark right now.

Utah was a pretty good surfer. :)

jcc03004
06-13-2015, 05:43 PM
No, but my guess is Man-Ban is who they might be considering. He is already on an innings limit. But I don't want Man-Ban anywhere near Fredi..

Wouldn't mind seeing banuelos pitch a lot better now then in st

jcc03004
06-13-2015, 05:45 PM
Imagine where we'd be if we didn't have a dumpster fire for a pen

NinersSBChamps
06-13-2015, 05:46 PM
Outside of Freddie, Maybin, Uribe, and occasionally Simba....who hits the ball hard on this team?i

Terdo did one time and then he got sent down.

jcc03004
06-13-2015, 05:49 PM
Really hope Hart is going to do something about this pen over the off season. I have never seen a pen this bad.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 05:51 PM
This dude has an ERA near 5. This should be quick work for him.

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 05:54 PM
CJ check swung and fouled off ball 4!

TDlxANDER
06-13-2015, 05:54 PM
Terdo did one time and then he got sent down.

Fredi had him sent down. Too hard to spell his last name when filling out the lineup card.

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 05:55 PM
Robles walks a batter, and then Andrelton goes home run swinging on the first pitch.

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 05:57 PM
Just saw this on Twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHaeB_pUsAAqOaI.jpg

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 05:57 PM
What an awful at-bat from Uribe.

buck75
06-13-2015, 05:59 PM
Some of you guys would complain if we just got a three run homer.

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 06:00 PM
Gap one, Maybin.

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 06:00 PM
They have a chance. Torres vs. Freeman

TDlxANDER
06-13-2015, 06:01 PM
Some of you guys would complain if we just got a three run homer.

A 3 run hr? Ahhhhh, f me

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 06:03 PM
Will they intentionally unintentionally walk Freeman to load them up for Markakis?

TDlxANDER
06-13-2015, 06:04 PM
Bookend HR's would be glorious. Freddie in swing mode

Runnin
06-13-2015, 06:06 PM
That hat.

TDlxANDER
06-13-2015, 06:07 PM
F*** yo couch, Mets

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 06:07 PM
FREEMAN!

UNCBlue012
06-13-2015, 06:07 PM
FREEEEE

Germanbrave
06-13-2015, 06:08 PM
Win it here!

Runnin
06-13-2015, 06:08 PM
I love me some Freddie Freeman.

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 06:08 PM
That hat.

I'd like to see Fredi tip with that hat.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 06:09 PM
Big AB Freddie. And eat a dck Nick

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 06:10 PM
OK. Need the Braves bullpen to come throu...................................Oh shoot

cajunrevenge
06-13-2015, 06:16 PM
Some of you guys would complain if we just got a three run homer.

Its happened before. People complain when players they don't like do well and try to excuse it as Fredi will play them more so it's bad. AJ could hit 12 homers next week and people would complain Bethancourt isn't starting.

Garmel
06-13-2015, 06:19 PM
An easy shutdown inning for Jim Johnson.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 06:23 PM
Its happened before. People complain when players they don't like do well and try to excuse it as Fredi will play them more so it's bad. AJ could hit 12 homers next week and people would complain Bethancourt isn't starting.

A lot of the people who complain, such as my myself post when they do good and bad. The pampers only show up when they do good to gloat. AJ could hit 12 homers next week and he'd still be awful. As well as Gomes.

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 06:36 PM
Mets have give the Braves enough chances today

NinersSBChamps
06-13-2015, 06:37 PM
Little Big League is on MLBN.

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 06:39 PM
MAYBIN!

TDlxANDER
06-13-2015, 06:40 PM
Maybin found Jesus, he's been redeemed per Skip

TDlxANDER
06-13-2015, 06:41 PM
Little Big League is on MLBN.

Which begs the question: Fredi G or a 12 yr old?

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 06:42 PM
Mayback is having an amazing season.

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 06:44 PM
Williams Perez going for the save

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 06:46 PM
Williams Perez?
Isn't he scheduled to start on Monday night?

atl717
06-13-2015, 06:47 PM
Perez? Well this is not going to end well.

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 06:47 PM
....and Perez just gave up 2 hits to 2 scrubs.

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 06:48 PM
Pass it over
http://www.drug3k.com/img4/rolaids_10996_9_(big)_.jpeg

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 06:48 PM
Man, I thought that was a DP ball off the bat (broke it too).

Garmel
06-13-2015, 06:48 PM
I'm tired of this miracle **** by the Mets.

atl717
06-13-2015, 06:48 PM
There is no reason for Williams Perez to ever close a MLB game.

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 06:49 PM
Are Aardsma and Cunniff unavailable?

TDlxANDER
06-13-2015, 06:49 PM
Oh geez

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 06:49 PM
This is the most baffling move of Fredi's career (including LAD game 4). This is nothing short of stupidity.

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 06:49 PM
Grilli only threw eight pitches in the 10th.........................

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 06:50 PM
Thank you Mets

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 06:50 PM
Good job Perez, great job Maybin making up for his mistakes.

CrimsonCowboy
06-13-2015, 06:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/P6x0U.gif

buck75
06-13-2015, 06:50 PM
Brilliant bullpen management.

atl717
06-13-2015, 06:51 PM
Good come back. Jeez this pen.

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 06:51 PM
Feels good to win in Citi Field.

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 06:52 PM
Great win.. BUT... that Perez decision was just horrible. It worked out, but it could -should- have ended very differently.

AerchAngel
06-13-2015, 06:52 PM
Maybin goat and hero in one game.

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 06:52 PM
Perez is probably still good to go on Monday since he didn't throw a lot of pitches or have too much stress other than the Mayberry at-bat.

Though I wouldn't mind seeing one of the kids in the minors throw Monday night.

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 06:53 PM
This is the most baffling move of Fredi's career (including LAD game 4). This is nothing short of stupidity.

Wow. Are you serious?

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 06:54 PM
Great win.. BUT... that Perez decision was just horrible. It worked out, but it could -should- have ended very differently.

Perez was going to throw today anyway. So giving him an inning shouldn't be a big issue.

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 06:55 PM
Perez is probably still good to go on Monday since he didn't throw a lot of pitches or have too much stress other than the Mayberry at-bat.

Though I wouldn't mind seeing one of the kids in the minors throw Monday night.

Have to assume that was his side session and will be plenty good for Monday. Actually, he will probably head down to the pen now and finish throwing his normal amount of pitches for his side session.

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 06:57 PM
Perez was going to throw today anyway. So giving him an inning shouldn't be a big issue.

I never said it was going to affect his start on Monday

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 06:57 PM
All three of the Braves victories over the Mets have been by a 5-3 score.

benchguy
06-13-2015, 06:58 PM
give it a rest, they won the game.....negative people always complaining about something..


Great win.. BUT... that Perez decision was just horrible. It worked out, but it could -should- have ended very differently.

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 06:59 PM
give it a rest, they won the game.....negative people always complaining about something..

"Negative people"

You obviously don't know my post very well.. I am one of the more positive posters on here.

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 07:00 PM
I never said it was going to affect his start on Monday

Oh so this was just a replay of that Perez thread you started?

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 07:02 PM
Oh so this was just a replay of that Perez thread you started?

Please tell me how the two are related in the least bit.

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 07:02 PM
give it a rest, they won the game.....negative people always complaining about something..

He's not a bad poster or always negative, he just doesn't seem to have any faith in Perez. I disagree with him but I respect his right to that opinion of Perez.

Heyward
06-13-2015, 07:04 PM
Good comeback.

Perez threw 9 pitches and its basically like a bullpen/side session, no big deal.

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 07:05 PM
Please tell me how the two are related in the least bit.

Besides you not giving Perez hardly any credit in either thread? That is pretty much what it looked like to me. How else can one explain you making out using Perez as worse than using Carpenter instead of Kimbrel in the NLDS, etc?

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 07:07 PM
He's not a bad poster or always negative, he just doesn't seem to have any faith in Perez. I disagree with him but I respect his right to that opinion of Perez.

And I completely 100% respect that, and if you remember you look back at my thread, I said from the very beginning that I wasn't discrediting what Williams has done, I just don't think he can continue to put guys on base and them not score. I hope Perez turns into another solid rotation piece for many years to come, but he scares me.

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 07:09 PM
Besides you not giving Perez hardly any credit in either thread? That is pretty much what it looked like to me. How else can one explain you making out using Perez as worse than using Carpenter instead of Kimbrel in the NLDS, etc?

Again, please go read my very first line in that thread. I am/was in no way discrediting what he has done for us, I just don't think he is a longterm starter at the MLB level with the other options we have.

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 07:11 PM
And I completely 100% respect that, and if you remember you look back at my thread, I said from the very beginning that I wasn't discrediting what Williams has done, I just don't think he can continue to put guys on base and them not score. I hope Perez turns into another solid rotation piece for many years to come, but he scares me.

OK, but Perez went out and gave up no earned runs after you said that leading us to a win. Today you basically showed no faith in him again and he again does the job. I get that he scares you but he's also proved you wrong both times so far. He deserves credit for continuing to do that IMO.

cajunrevenge
06-13-2015, 07:12 PM
He's not a bad poster or always negative, he just doesn't seem to have any faith in Perez. I disagree with him but I respect his right to that opinion of Perez.

I don't either but I still root for him.

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 07:15 PM
OK, but Perez went out and gave up no earned runs after you said that leading us to a win. Today you basically showed no faith in him again and he again does the job. I get that he scares you but he's also proved you wrong both times so far. He deserves credit for continuing to do that IMO.

I would have no problem whatsoever using Perez if we had no other options but..

1.) Grilli had only thrown 8 pitches
2.) Still had Cunniff and Aardsma available

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 07:17 PM
Wow. Are you serious?

Lol

stpeteirish
06-13-2015, 07:17 PM
Good comeback.

Perez threw 9 pitches and its basically like a bullpen/side session, no big deal.

Yeah but Fredi had no idea how many pitches Perez was going to throw when he but him in.

Heyward
06-13-2015, 07:17 PM
Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
Fredi said he's still planning to start Perez on Monday

Heyward
06-13-2015, 07:18 PM
Yeah but Fredi had no idea how many pitches Perez was going to throw when he but him in.

15-20 is pretty much a side session, so no.

Going to Perez was fine.

cajunrevenge
06-13-2015, 07:19 PM
Liberty needs to open up that check book and trade for KRod and Broxton. Call up Banuelos to be the second lefty and we got ourselves a serviceable pen.

buck75
06-13-2015, 07:19 PM
Maybe they will leave Perez in the bullpen (possibly long relief) and bring up another starter as someone mentioned in an earlier post. Perez seems to have a rubber arm. It wouldn't hurt to have two long relievers on this staff (maybe one RHP & one LHP).

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 07:20 PM
I would have no problem whatsoever using Perez if we had no other options but..

1.) Grilli had only thrown 8 pitches
2.) Still had Cunniff and Aardsma available

Grilli also rarely goes two innings while Cunniff and Aardsma apparently needed rest.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 07:20 PM
Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
Fredi said he's still planning to start Perez on Monday

And will be promptly sitting in Dr. Andrews' office on Tuesday. Busy week for our boy ahead.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 07:22 PM
Maybe they will leave Perez in the bullpen (possibly long relief) and bring up another starter as someone mentioned in an earlier post. Perez seems to have a rubber arm. It wouldn't hurt to have two long relievers on this staff (maybe one RHP & one LHP).

Possibility...but I personally think he needs to be in the rotation. Dude loves to compete and has been big whenever we needed a win (San Fran).

stpeteirish
06-13-2015, 07:22 PM
I would have no problem whatsoever using Perez if we had no other options but..

1.) Grilli had only thrown 8 pitches
2.) Still had Cunniff and Aardsma available

yeah, strange move maybe someone will ask him postgame about Cunniff and AArdsma. This would have been 3 games in a row for AArdsma but not a lot of pitches. Re Grilli I'm sure its the usual stuff about closers not being comfortable pitching more than one inning.

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 07:25 PM
Grilli also rarely goes two innings while Cunniff and Aardsma apparently needed rest.

Girl himself said he was prepared and would welcome the opportunity to enter earlier (in the 8th) and throw multiple innings. I will take my chances on using Grilli multiple innings rather than go to a starter who gives up a lot of baserunners and struggled mighty as a reliever.

Please let me say I am not bashing you or your opinion -you're one of my favorite posters on here- and I respect your opinion. We just disagree on this one topic haha

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 07:26 PM
I feel awkward agreeing with Fredi in this thread, almost makes me think I am missing something. Please make it stop. :)

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 07:27 PM
I feel awkward agreeing with Fredi in this thread, almost makes me think I am missing something. Please make it stop. :)

Hahahaha!!!

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 07:29 PM
Girl himself said he was prepared and would welcome the opportunity to enter earlier (in the 8th) and throw multiple innings. I will take my chances on using Grilli multiple innings rather than go to a starter who gives up a lot of baserunners and struggled mighty as a reliever.

Please let me say I am not bashing you or your opinion -you're one of my favorite posters on here- and I respect your opinion. We just disagree on this one topic haha

OK, it's just how you made this move out to be worse than not bringing in Kimbrel in the NLDS. I mean I would've let it go but I thought that was overkill. I am fine that we disagree on the kid Perez though. Further, I am glad you are back posting as you're a favorite poster of mine too. No hard feelings bro.

WaitingFor2017
06-13-2015, 07:34 PM
How have Aardsma and Eveland looked so far?

cajunrevenge
06-13-2015, 07:35 PM
Aardsma I think hasn't given up a base runner so far and I think Eveland has failed to record a out.

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 07:38 PM
OK, it's just how you made this move out to be worse than not bringing in Kimbrel in the NLDS. I mean I would've let it go but I thought that was overkill. I am fine that we disagree on the kid Perez though. Further, I am glad you are back posting as you're a favorite poster of mine too. No hard feelings bro.

Maybe it was overkill but I -I know I will take the wrath and I'm one of the few- didn't/don't have a problem with Gonzalez going to Carpenter in the 8th. He'd been brilliant all year and succeeded/flourished in the 8th inning role and Kimbrel had struggled pitching multiple innings (the Red Sox in Boston game comes to mind). If we replay -ugghh I never want to do this- that inning 10 times, we have the lead (or a tie game) 9 out of 10 times. If we replay today's scenario 10 times, Perez gets the save in 8 of those. Maybe it was overkill and a result of Gonzalez's poor use of the bullpen this year.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 07:39 PM
How have Aardsma and Eveland looked so far?

Eveland has been rough. Unfortunately. But the bullpen did very well

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 07:41 PM
How have Aardsma and Eveland looked so far?

Aardsma looked fine his first appearance but gave up a steal and add-on run last night charged to Wood. Eveland first appearance came against a righty in a tough spot and today he gave up a wild pitch and double for a run (charged to Miller) without getting an out.

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 07:42 PM
I think it was a risky and dangerous move but I like it. Just shows Perez that his manager had confidence in him (if that means anything coming from Fredi). Perez is better from this, that's for sure.

Maybe he had to put him in to showcase him to all those scouts that are there wasting there time to see Gee pitch tomorrow for some strange fckn reason.

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 07:49 PM
Maybe it was overkill but I -I know I will take the wrath and I'm one of the few- didn't/don't have a problem with Gonzalez going to Carpenter in the 8th. He'd been brilliant all year and succeeded/flourished in the 8th inning role and Kimbrel had struggled pitching multiple innings (the Red Sox in Boston game comes to mind). If we replay -ugghh I never want to do this- that inning 10 times, we have the lead (or a tie game) 9 out of 10 times. If we replay today's scenario 10 times, Perez gets the save in 8 of those. Maybe it was overkill and a result of Gonzalez's poor use of the bullpen this year.

Did you catch when Gonzalez admitted last year that he had made a mistake not going to Kimbrel (after initially insisting otherwise)? I found that interesting. My take then and now is the same, Carpenter had been great but mostly in low-leverage situations for the better part of that season and despite some initial success I never trusted him in the higher leverage situations. I looked at him a lot like Varvaro, someone very good in low-leverage but you're pushing it having him in high-leverage situations regularly (esp. in the playoffs). Plus Carpenter had almost blown the Braves first playoff win giving up a two-run bomb to Ramirez.

That said, now that David Carpenter is a Nat and Uribe is a Brave I hope to see a instant replay of that shot by Uribe off Carpenter vs Washington. :)

nsacpi
06-13-2015, 08:01 PM
Huge game by the Andreltonian

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 08:04 PM
Huge game by the Andreltonian

Yep, great game by Simmons today.

Heyward
06-13-2015, 08:11 PM
How have Aardsma and Eveland looked so far?

Aardsma has been ok, Eveland hasnt been good at all.

buck75
06-13-2015, 08:22 PM
Huge game by the Andreltonian

Some brilliant prognosticator mentioned this on page 1 I believe

Orphan Black
06-13-2015, 08:46 PM
did they ever give a distance on Freeman's homer

jsebe10
06-13-2015, 09:06 PM
did they ever give a distance on Freeman's homer

437 ft

blueagleace1
06-13-2015, 10:47 PM
Did you catch when Gonzalez admitted last year that he had made a mistake not going to Kimbrel (after initially insisting otherwise)? I found that interesting. My take then and now is the same, Carpenter had been great but mostly in low-leverage situations for the better part of that season and despite some initial success I never trusted him in the higher leverage situations. I looked at him a lot like Varvaro, someone very good in low-leverage but you're pushing it having him in high-leverage situations regularly (esp. in the playoffs). Plus Carpenter had almost blown the Braves first playoff win giving up a two-run bomb to Ramirez.

That said, now that David Carpenter is a Nat and Uribe is a Brave I hope to see a instant replay of that shot by Uribe off Carpenter vs Washington. :)

Haha that would be something. I wish we would have made every possible effort to get Carp back from NYY.

Braves1976
06-13-2015, 11:42 PM
According to Fangraphs AJ now has a -7 DRS which is the worst among all catchers in MLB. While Bethancourt has a 5 DRS, which is tied for the third highest in all of MLB among catchers.

If y'all think we'll be able to trade AJ I think you'll be disappointed unless someone desperate for a back-up gives us almost nothing in return.

CyYoung31
06-14-2015, 02:09 AM
So, Sturg, were you just tickled to death to see Fredi use Grilli on the road in a tie game?

(I didn't see the game.)

rico43
06-14-2015, 02:11 AM
Gwinnett starts Cody Martin today (Sunday), but no one in particular for Monday. Wonder what the chances are for ManBan to get an emergency start call up on Monday?

weso1
06-14-2015, 06:42 AM
So, Sturg, were you just tickled to death to see Fredi use Grilli on the road in a tie game?

(I didn't see the game.)

He's dead due to tickling.

The Chosen One
06-14-2015, 06:47 AM
So, Sturg, were you just tickled to death to see Fredi use Grilli on the road in a tie game?

(I didn't see the game.)

Probably not because it wasn't in regulation it was in extras.

thethe
06-14-2015, 06:48 AM
This team is alot of fun to watch. Might get an ulcer here and there but still fun.

dak
06-14-2015, 07:15 AM
According to Fangraphs AJ now has a -7 DRS which is the worst among all catchers in MLB. While Bethancourt has a 5 DRS, which is tied for the third highest in all of MLB among catchers.

I'm stunned to see Bethancourt so high, but not surprised to see Pierzynski that low. CB has a low sample of innings of course, and I think DRS also weighs fielding and SB prevention pretty heavily for catchers (this suits CB well). Maybe my negative view of his defensive based on the eye test has been a little, well, short-sighted. The passed balls and lack of effort blocking balls in the dirt is bugging the hell out of me though.

50PoundHead
06-14-2015, 07:22 AM
They've gotten up off the mat twice this week, but also p*ssed a game (or two) away. I just don't know where to put his team in the whole scheme of things.

AerchAngel
06-14-2015, 08:15 AM
They've gotten up off the mat twice this week, but also p*ssed a game (or two) away. I just don't know where to put his team in the whole scheme of things.

If we had reliable middle relief, we would be around 5 games up at this time. We are putrid in that department.

GovClintonTyree
06-14-2015, 08:20 AM
Maybe it was overkill but I -I know I will take the wrath and I'm one of the few- didn't/don't have a problem with Gonzalez going to Carpenter in the 8th. He'd been brilliant all year and succeeded/flourished in the 8th inning role and Kimbrel had struggled pitching multiple innings (the Red Sox in Boston game comes to mind). If we replay -ugghh I never want to do this- that inning 10 times, we have the lead (or a tie game) 9 out of 10 times. If we replay today's scenario 10 times, Perez gets the save in 8 of those. Maybe it was overkill and a result of Gonzalez's poor use of the bullpen this year.

Blasphemer.

GovClintonTyree
06-14-2015, 08:21 AM
437 ft

Pussy.

rico43
06-14-2015, 09:02 AM
If it wasn't already official, I think Saturday assured that Freddie assumes Chipper's throne as Killer of Mets Hopes and Dreams.

thethe
06-14-2015, 09:55 AM
#Braves 2B Jace Peterson's past 42 games: .304 (49-for-161) w/ 10 XBH, 22 RBIs, 20 runs, .379 OBP

thethe
06-14-2015, 09:56 AM
What a damn trade.

sturg33
06-14-2015, 10:48 AM
So, Sturg, were you just tickled to death to see Fredi use Grilli on the road in a tie game?

(I didn't see the game.)

tickled is apt... progress