6/25/15: GDT - Atlanta Braves @ Washington Nationals

[Garmel]

Braves
1. Jace Peterson (L) 2B
2. Cameron Maybin (R) CF
3. Nick Markakis (L) RF
4. A.J. Pierzynski (L) C
5. Joey Terdoslavich (S) 1B
6. Kelly Johnson (L) 3B
7. Jonny Gomes (R) LF
8. Pedro Ciriaco (R) SS
9. Matt Wisler (R) P

Nats
1. Denard Span (L) CF
2. Danny Espinosa (S) 2B
3. Yunel Escobar (R) 3B
4. Clint Robinson (L) RF
5. Wilson Ramos (R) C
6. Ian Desmond (R) SS
7. Tyler Moore (R) 1B
8. Michael Taylor (R) LF
9. Doug Fister (L) P

[Garmel]

Harper not in due to injury. Uribe is sitting down for two games in a row for reasons unknown.

[NinersSBChamps]

This lineup gets uglier by the day. Simmons doesn't need a day off unless he's hurt.

[gilesfan]

First team to 2nd base wins.

[UNCBlue012]

Wait, what. Where is Uribe and Simba? lol

[Garmel]

Wait, what. Where is Uribe and Simba? lol

:fredi:

[sturg33]

Is Fister an ace? Just trying to figure out if we're gonna be able to win or not. Let's hope he is!

[gilesfan]

Wait, what. Where is Uribe and Simba? lol

We already lost the series, time to rest up Simmons.

[sturg33]

Does anyone know if Markakis has managed to hit a HR in batting practice this year?

[chop2chip]

I have to say I don't like Washington's lineup much more than the Braves today.

This looks like a AAA Allstar game.

[chop2chip]

Does anyone know if Markakis has managed to hit a HR in batting practice this year?
Keep on poking the balls to LF, Nick. Haters gonna hate.

[gilesfan]

I have to say I don't like Washington's lineup much more than the Braves today.

This looks like a AAA Allstar game.

All it takes is 4 starters out of the Nats. :YDS:

[chop2chip]

Disappointed to not see Uggla today. We need to keep that hole on the right side of the infield as open as possible for all of our singles hitters.

[jsebe10]

Disappointed to not see Uggla today. We need to keep that hole on the right side of the infield as open as possible for all of our singles hitters.

Especially when Markakis comes up in RBI situations....::splooooogggeeee::

[nsacpi]

Expecting a huge game from KJ

[Russ2dollas]

that is awful. Both teams. Awful.

Mets are also awful.

FL fans should be pi$$ed.

[sturg33]

Keep on poking the balls to LF, Nick. Haters gonna hate.

At least we know his HRs won't regress over the next 3 years

[gilesfan]

Nick the glove.

[Russ2dollas]

Nick the glove.

GOLD glove.

3 yrs and 33 million left.

[thewupk]

At least we know his HRs won't regress over the next 3 years

There is actually a chance he will improve in that dept

[sturg33]

There is actually a chance he will improve in that dept

In all seriousness... I don't think I could think of another player who played nearly every game, was paid over $10M, and did not hit a HR... maybe ever

[Russ2dollas]

In all seriousness... I don't think I could think of another player who played nearly every game, was paid over $10M, and did not hit a HR... maybe ever

he'll get his strength back after the break......all his strength comes from his neck

[chop2chip]

In all seriousness... I don't think I could think of another player who played nearly every game, was paid over $10M, and did not hit a HR... maybe ever
It's a good thing you are still complaining about a 115 wRC OF.

Let it go man.

[chop2chip]

GOLD glove.

3 yrs and 33 million left.
You were just talking about signing a LF in the other thread.

Take a gander at some of the LF's signed in the offseason.

Cuddyer - 0.3 WAR (costs 22 million plus a draft pick)
Hanley - -0.3 WAR (cost 88 million plus a draft pick)
Melky - -0.8 WAR (cost 42 million plus a draft pick)

Obviously I'm cherry picking considering there were some good value signings. I was one of those that preferred Aoki among other alternatives. I don't like the Markakis contract, but considering the alternatives that were possible I feel like we were lucky.

[Garmel]

Good idea to keep Uribe on the bench. It's paying dividends.

[thewupk]

i love the smell of bad defense in the afternoon

[thewupk]

You were just talking about signing a LF in the other thread.

Take a gander at some of the LF's signed in the offseason.

Cuddyer - 0.3 WAR (costs 22 million plus a draft pick)
Hanley - -0.3 WAR (cost 88 million plus a draft pick)
Melky - -0.8 WAR (cost 42 million plus a draft pick)

Obviously I'm cherry picking considering there were some good value signings. I was one of those that preferred Aoki among other alternatives. I don't like the Markakis contract, but considering the alternatives that were possible I feel like we were lucky.

In all fairness there is nothing wrong with the Markakis contract in and of itself. I thought it was a slight overpay at the time but he has outperformed that to this point. But what is a contract that we needed? We are rebuilding and was there a particular need for Nick at 4 years? Really good chance he is not playing to this level in 2017.

[Russ2dollas]

You were just talking about signing a LF in the other thread.

Take a gander at some of the LF's signed in the offseason.

Cuddyer - 0.3 WAR (costs 22 million plus a draft pick)
Hanley - -0.3 WAR (cost 88 million plus a draft pick)
Melky - -0.8 WAR (cost 42 million plus a draft pick)

Obviously I'm cherry picking considering there were some good value signings. I was one of those that preferred Aoki among other alternatives. I don't like the Markakis contract, but considering the alternatives that were possible I feel like we were lucky.

Understood. And I'm scared of the FA market in general.

if the Markakis deal was 2 years I'd love it. Even 2 years at 26 I'd be ok with it. But 4 years and 44.......

[NinersSBChamps]

Well this thing turned around quickly since Sunday evening.

[Jay212033]

Well this thing turned around quickly since Sunday evening.

Why are you so negative?!?!

[chop2chip]

Understood. And I'm scared of the FA market in general.

if the Markakis deal was 2 years I'd love it. Even 2 years at 26 I'd be ok with it. But 4 years and 44.......
I didn't like the process behind the contract, but let's say he's a 2.5 WAR player at the end of this year (his projection via ZIPS).

Markakis at 3 years 33 million (with no draft pick compensation) isn't terrible.

[gilesfan]

I didn't like the process behind the contract, but let's say he's a 2.5 WAR player at the end of this year (his projection via ZIPS).

Markakis at 3 years 33 million (with no draft pick compensation) isn't terrible.

Eh, what will the next 3 years look like? Any optimism that he will be even better?

[chop2chip]

In all fairness there is nothing wrong with the Markakis contract in and of itself. I thought it was a slight overpay at the time but he has outperformed that to this point. But what is a contract that we needed? We are rebuilding and was there a particular need for Nick at 4 years? Really good chance he is not playing to this level in 2017.
That's fair and that criticism will hold true forever.

But a lot of people act like his contract is destined to be a burden like Upton/Uggla. There is seriously no chance of that.

I agree the process was bad, but Nick isn't a bad player and doesn't deserve the criticism he gets.

[gilesfan]

That's fair and that criticism will hold true forever.

But a lot of people act like his contract is destined to be a burden like Upton/Uggla. There is seriously no chance of that.

I agree the process was bad, but Nick isn't a bad player and doesn't deserve the criticism he gets.

That is a good point and more of a criticism of the front office handing it out and then rebuilding.

[chop2chip]

Eh, what will the next 3 years look like? Any optimism that he will be even better?
No. He should regress, but that's not a terrible risk to take either, which is my point.

[chop2chip]

That is a good point and more of a criticism of the front office handing it out and then rebuilding.
The process was baffling, but considering the current state of the team, he kinda sorta fits.

[Pugfan]

Wisler can't locate for crap.

[Chipper]

Safe

[Runnin]

That was almost a classic fail for our boy,Yunel.

[NinersSBChamps]

Why are you so negative?!?!

Just telling it like it is. The Braves aren't good. If that's negative then so be it.

[Pugfan]

little league defense costs us a couple more runs. And Wisler really needs to work on his location. It sucks

[NinersSBChamps]

If you don't generate many swings and misses you are gonna have games like this. Need to be able to put away hitters at this level. Rough game for the kid.

[Runnin]

Just telling it like it is. The Braves aren't good. If that's negative then so be it.
Without Fredi and Simmons, the defense aint good.

[jsebe10]

But in all seriousness, why the fck would you run that sh*t show of a lineup out there? Gomes doesn't hit righties...therefore he should never fckn be in there vs righties

[thewupk]

But in all seriousness, why the fck would you run that sh*t show of a lineup out there? Gomes doesn't hit righties...therefore he should never fckn be in there vs righties

:FrediConfident:

[NinersSBChamps]

Without Freeman this lineup goes from bad to terrible. Take away Simmons as well and it goes from terrible to dreadful.

Honestly there isn't much you can do to not make this lineup suck with the current players we have. You can shuffle guys around, take one out, or put someone else in. At the end of the day it still stinks. You can shine a turd all you want, but its still ****.

[gilesfan]

Wisler is getting no movement on his heater.

[Runnin]

But in all seriousness, why the fck would you run that sh*t show of a lineup out there? Gomes doesn't hit righties...therefore he should never fckn be in there vs righties
Why wouldn't you? When winning this year isn't a priority it's just a matter of playing the games.

[gilesfan]

I literally turned my head. Holy **** that was quick 3 outs.

[Buzzworm]

Why wouldn't you? When winning this year isn't a priority it's just a matter of playing the games.

QFT
We might as well bring back Folty so he can learn in the majors and go to a six man rotation and try to get as high a pick as we can.I say we trade any vets that have value at the deadline and let the young kids take there lumps and learn while in the big leagues like we did in 89-90 with glavine,smoltz,gant,justice etc
Since they aren't going to add a bat or bullpen help.

[skillet]

QFT
We might as well bring back Folty so he can learn in the majors and go to a six man rotation and try to get as high a pick as we can.I say we trade any vets that have value at the deadline and let the young kids take there lumps and learn while in the big leagues like we did in 89-90 with glavine,smoltz,gant,justice etc
Since they aren't going to add a bat or bullpen help.

That is exactly what we should do, but Fredi will never allow it. He is a lame duck manager fighting for his job, he couldn't care less about 2016 and beyond.

[thewupk]

Barring something unforeseen the Braves will have scored 13 runs in their last 7 games. Yeah it hurts with Freeman out but the Braves have faced a lot of quality pitching in that stretch. Something they haven't seen for much of the season.

[skillet]

We've only scored 3 runs in the last 40 innings. :facepalm:

[thewupk]

We've only scored 3 runs in the last 40 innings. :facepalm:

It's an offense built to beat good pitching. Something last year's club would have trouble doing.

[gilesfan]

2 runs the whole series. This not striking out thing needs improvement.

[Runnin]

2 runs the whole series. This not striking out thing needs improvement.
The first two games could've gone either way.

[bravesnumberone]

This offense is beyond putrid.