7/18/15: GDT - Chicago Cubs @ Atlanta Braves

[Garmel]

Cubs
1. Dexter Fowler (S) CF
2. Kris Bryant (R) 3B
3. Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
4. Jorge Soler (R) RF
5. Chris Denorfia (R) LF
6. Starlin Castro (R) SS
7. David Ross (R) C
8. Jon Lester (L) P
9. Addison Russell (R) 2B

Braves
1. Jace Peterson (L) 2B
2. Cameron Maybin (R) CF
3. Nick Markakis (L) RF
4. Jonny Gomes (R) LF
5. Chris Johnson (R) 1B
6. A.J. Pierzynski (L) C
7. Juan Uribe (R) 3B
8. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
9. Manny Banuelos (R) P

[Garmel]

Uribe batting 7th?

[Dalyn]

HR coming from Markakis tonight. About damn time.

[UNCBlue012]

Why, why, why would both Gomes and CJ be ahead of Uribe? He should be the four hitter. If not AJ.

[Julio3000]

HR coming from Markakis tonight. About damn time.

I swear, if you nail the exact date I am probably going to soil myself.

[keithlaw]

I swear, if you nail the exact date I am probably going to soil myself.

Doubly so if its an in the park homer.

[ATLBraves247]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/batvspitch/_/id/28487/jon-lester

[nsacpi]

Expecting a huge game from the Andreltonian.

[skillet]

Why, why, why would both Gomes and CJ be ahead of Uribe? He should be the four hitter. If not AJ.

Agreed, seems a 4th grader could make out a better lineup. Johnny Gomes batting cleanup? Bahahahaha

[msstate7]

Gomes only hits .250 vs lhp?! I thought he was labeled a lhp killer.

[skillet]

Gomes can't hit his way out of a wet paper bag. :facepalm:

[blueagleace1]

Banuelos is awfully worried about any runner on 1st.

[msstate7]

Banuelos is awfully worried about any runner on 1st.

If you had AJ as catcher, you'd be worried too

[UNCBlue012]

CJ is just so dumb

[blueagleace1]

If you had AJ as catcher, you'd be worried too

Two things:

1. Rizzo isn't running

2. Bryant isn't running with 2 outs and Rizzo up

[jsebe10]

Yea. 88 pitches is enough. Hack of a manager

[msstate7]

I really think I could go without seeing Simmons hit again in my lifetime and not regret it

[NinersSBChamps]

Find a real second basemen please.

[msstate7]

Dang it! Want Peterson to get reward with a hit when he goes the other way like that.

[msstate7]

Last night was great, but back to reality tonight. I knew when Gomes was hitting cleanup that we were in serious trouble. Someone really should tell fredi that Gomes hits less than .250 against lhp and that's not near good enough to put him in lf

[Krovahn]

David O'Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 5m5 minutes ago
Scoring change in 1st inning, Markakis hit now changed to E5, and Lester has a no-hitter through 6.

[msstate7]

Hate changing it so late.

[msstate7]

That's one big eyelash

[msstate7]

Serious question... Have we won a game all year with CJ and Gomes both starting? I'm sure we probably have, but it seems we really suck lately with that combo.

I'd like to know what our record is with Gomes starting this year

[NinersSBChamps]

At least the bullpen isn't pissing away games lately.

[Garmel]

Uribe had that. Stupid wind.

[msstate7]

Serious question... Have we won a game all year with CJ and Gomes both starting? I'm sure we probably have, but it seems we really suck lately with that combo.

I'd like to know what our record is with Gomes starting this year

Went back to June. We're 3-6 with those 2 starting. Hopefully we get to 4-6 tonight

[msstate7]

Ready to see peraza

[Garmel]

So much for that.

[ATLBraves247]

Peterson back to earth, man he is plummeting.

[msstate7]

Peterson back to earth, man he is plummeting.

Gotta feeling we'll let him come back to earth then dig a hole to the inner core before we give peraza a shot

[Russ2dollas]

Gotta feeling we'll let him come back to earth then dig a hole to the inner core before we give peraza a shot

Peraza is doing worse in the minors.

We are a team of 7th place hitters right now

[jsebe10]

Please hurry Freddie

[Tino25Dynasty]

Chris Johnson looked like a girl on the ball. That wasn't a blazing shorthop. That was a long bounce. IMO SHOULD HAVE been caught by a major league infielder.

[msstate7]

Peraza is doing worse in the minors.

We are a team of 7th place hitters right now
All these stats are before tonight's 0-3

Peterson last 7 games...
.208 avg .269 obp .292 slugging

Last 15...
.179 avg .246 obp .268 slugging

Last 30...
.211 avg .295 obp .351 slugging

You still think peraza is doing worse?

[Garmel]

All these stats are before tonight's 0-3

Peterson last 7 games...
.208 avg .269 obp .292 slugging

Last 15...
.179 avg .246 obp .268 slugging

Last 30...
.211 avg .295 obp .351 slugging

You still think peraza is doing worse?

Plus Peraza has been hot of late. He's having a big game tonight.

[Russ2dollas]

Over a larger sample peraza is struggling. He's also doing it in the minors. And peraza is a eh hitter who never walks or has power. Why start his clock?

[jsebe10]

Fck a Gomes, fck a Fredi, fck a Chris Johnson

[jsebe10]

Way to hit the sh*t out of that one Nick. Mr big time RBI guy

[msstate7]

Just a quick check of peraza shows he's hitting .289 his last 10 games. He's 3-5 tonight, which isn't included in the above avg

I realize 11 games is a small sample size.

[chipchildress]

according to the box score the braves have r kelly pitching for them now. so that's pretty cool.

[jsebe10]

Just a quick check of peraza shows he's hitting .289 his last 10 games. He's 3-5 tonight, which isn't included in the above avg

I know you are new here, but prepare yourself to see some stats that are in this format ...."WRC+~R " or "YeY2 /2" to counteract your post.

[msstate7]

Over a larger sample peraza is struggling. He's also doing it in the minors. And peraza is a eh hitter who never walks or has power. Why start his clock?

We've brought up folty, banuelos, and wisler. Apparently we aren't worried about clocks. Besides albies is the most likely 2b of the future

[jsebe10]

God rid ourselves of Chris Johnson. Plz

[msstate7]

I know you are new here, but prepare yourself to see some stats that are in this format ...."WRC+~R " or "YeY2 /2" to counteract your post.

Yeah, I suck with advanced stats. I do know Peterson is absolutely horrid right now. Peraza is a consensus top 50 prospect. Why not peraza?

[chipchildress]

yeah, but brett gardner has a good woba.

[jsebe10]

yeah, but brett gardner has a good woba.

Played against that bastard in high school. I've seen enough of him. Lol

[skillet]

Yet another loss to feed the selling fire.

[Russ2dollas]

Yeah, I suck with advanced stats. I do know Peterson is absolutely horrid right now. Peraza is a consensus top 50 prospect. Why not peraza?

He was. Won't be next yr....

He's a Ss and trade bait

[Russ2dollas]

We've brought up folty, banuelos, and wisler. Apparently we aren't worried about clocks. Besides albies is the most likely 2b of the future

Every situation different. Those guys are older. Folty click was started. Pitchers need to get their lumps early.

Peraza just isn't that good.

[keithlaw]

Every situation different. Those guys are older. Folty click was started. Pitchers need to get their lumps early.

Peraza just isn't that good.

The clock stops as soon as they're sent back down though

[KB21]

Watching this show Driven: John Smoltz - A Hall of Fame Career brings back a lot of memories.

The run of 14 straight division championships will never be duplicated.

[Russ2dollas]

Despite a really cold start and cold now Peterson isn't that far off peraza for season numbers. And Peterson is in the majors. And Peterson has more pop off the top of my head.

I'm not saying Peterson should hit first or is our long term answer at 2b. But peraza isn't exactly a kris Bryant. He's not making an appreciable difference in this team.

We need him at Ss an leading a package for a bat

[Heyward]

Despite a really cold start and cold now Peterson isn't that far off peraza for season numbers. And Peterson is in the majors. And Peterson has more pop off the top of my head.

I'm not saying Peterson should hit first or is our long term answer at 2b. But peraza isn't exactly a kris Bryant. He's not making an appreciable difference in this team.

We need him at Ss an leading a package for a bat

No he's not a Kris Bryant but he's still worth calling up.

Why trade him before seeing what he can do in the big leagues?

[msstate7]

Despite a really cold start and cold now Peterson isn't that far off peraza for season numbers. And Peterson is in the majors. And Peterson has more pop off the top of my head.

I'm not saying Peterson should hit first or is our long term answer at 2b. But peraza isn't exactly a kris Bryant. He's not making an appreciable difference in this team.

We need him at Ss an leading a package for a bat

Peterson last 7 games...
.192 avg .250 obp .269 slugging

Peterson last 15 games...
.172 avg .238 obp .259 slugging

Peterson last 30 games...
.207 avg .290 obp .345 slugging

It's not exactly like he's kris Bryant either.

Take a look at those last 30 games' stats. You don't think peraza could do better than that? I think he could and he'd add base stealing threat

[emk418]

Peterson last 7 games...
.192 avg .250 obp .269 slugging

Peterson last 15 games...
.172 avg .238 obp .259 slugging

Peterson last 30 games...
.207 avg .290 obp .345 slugging

It's not exactly like he's kris Bryant either.

Take a look at those last 30 games' stats. You don't think peraza could do better than that? I think he could and he'd add base stealing threat

Fair points. But let's not pretend Peraza's lighting the world on fire in AAA. Yes he's very young for the level but Jace deserves more time. Even with Jace now down to .249 he still has a higher OBP then Peraza in AAA with a lot more XBH's and better defense.

[NinersSBChamps]

Jace Peterson doesn't use slugging percentage though. He prefers Struggling percentage.

[nsacpi]

Peraza is not yet a finished product. He is a 21 year old having a decent but not great season in AAA. We just waste service time calling these guys up when they aren't ready. We did it with Bethancourt.

[Garmel]

Peraza just committed his 16th error of the year. His 2nd base fielding still needs a lot of work.

[The Chosen One]

Need to flip Peraza soon.

[DirkPiggler]

Peraza is not yet a finished product. He is a 21 year old having a decent but not great season in AAA. We just waste service time calling these guys up when they aren't ready. We did it with Bethancourt.

It's not fair to call Peterson a finished product yet either. My guess would be that Peraza has more upside. I'd use whichever could net the best return as part of a package for a hitter with some pop.

[nsacpi]

It's not fair to call Peterson a finished product yet either. My guess would be that Peraza has more upside. I'd use whichever could net the best return as part of a package for a hitter with some pop.

I agree that Peterson still has some room for growth. Everyone wants hitters with some pop. I think both Peterson and Peraza have the potential to develop some power. I wouldn't actively look to move either of them. Of course, if some other team makes a fantastic offer for one of them, I'm fine with moving them. But that's true of every player we have.