GDT: Braves at Phillies 7-5-13 Hudson Pushed Back a day

[tvsportscaster]

This can become the game thread once the lineups are out but I thought I would start it, to let everyone know, Hudson has been pushed back until tomorrow. Paul Maholm now gets the start tonight. No reason given.

[NinersSBChamps]

Maybe Fredi wants Hudson to have a chance at not losing his next start. Lee has been great again this season and Hudson stands no chance against him.

[tvsportscaster]

It wouldn't let me go back into my original post and add the lineup so here it goes:
Braves
Andrelton Simmons SS
Jason Heyward RF
Justin Upton LF
Freddie Freeman 1B
Chris Johnson 3B
Dan Uggla 2B
Unforunately BJ Upton CF
Gerald Laird C
Paul Maholm P

[TURBO]

At the moment you only have a small range of time to edit your post.

[Julio3000]

Ugh, I hate watching us against Lee.

[TURBO]

Ugh, I hate watching us against Lee.

It wont be pretty

[NinersSBChamps]

I will see the first few innings, but thankfully I don't have to watch Lee dominate the Braves all night. Going to the Sky Sox game tonight against the Reno Aces. Rockies AAA affiliate hosting Diamondbacks.

[VirginiaBrave]

You guys give up too soon. Giving up before a pitch is thrown...smh.

[TURBO]

You guys give up too soon. Giving up before a pitch is thrown...smh.

Not giving up. At least Im not. Just saying it wont be pretty.

[AUTiger7222]

The Braves have had some good games against Lee.

8/29/09 - 5 IP, 10 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 0 BB, 5 SO - Won 9-1
4/8/11 - 3 1/3 IP, 10 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 1 BB, 3 SO - Won 6-3
5/6/11 - 7 IP, 9 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 16 SO - Won 5-0

2 of those games were at Citizens Bank. It's about time for the Braves to have another good game against Lee.

[NinersSBChamps]

Philadelphia Phillies:
1. 3B: Michael Young
2. 2B: Chase Utley
3. SS: Jimmy Rollins
4. 1B: Ryan Howard
5. LF: Domonic Brown
6. RF: Delmon Young
7. CF: Ben Revere
8. C: Humberto Quintero
9. SP: Cliff Lee

[Gary82]

Is Tim Hudson going to be traded? Gammons is reporting that Hudson thinks he could be.

http://www.talkingchop.com/2013/7/5/4496820/tim-hudson-reportedly-telling-former-teammates-he-could-be-traded


Peter Gammons ✔ @pgammo

Tim Hudson has let some former teammates know he thinks he could get dealt. Watch Texas, Boston, San Fransisco...
3:50 PM - 5 Jul 2013

[TDlxANDER]

Ugh, I hate watching us against Lee.

Honestly, we've got a lot of movies on the DVR...so I may take this opportunity to build a little good will with the wife and just keep up with the game on my phone. In other news...I'm not a man.

[Gary82]

Following

Mark Bowman
‏@mlbbowman
W/o being asked, Hudson said there's no basis to @pgammo's recent tweet that said Hudson has told former teammates he thinks he'll be traded

Hudson denies claim.

I'd also like to point out the difficulty in trading Tim. He's got 10-5 rights, so he can veto any trade.

[stpeteirish]

Philadelphia Phillies:
1. 3B: Michael Young
2. 2B: Chase Utley
3. SS: Jimmy Rollins
4. 1B: Ryan Howard
5. LF: Domonic Brown
6. RF: Delmon Young
7. CF: Ben Revere
8. C: Humberto Quintero
9. SP: Cliff Lee

our lineup, such that it is, is still better than theirs. By a wide margin, IMO. But Lee has been a hot pitcher so I'll try not to watch. We're not hitting worse pitchers.

Maybe they'll surprise me tonight. Anything below 10 K's will surprise me, my bar is low.

[stpeteirish]

It'd be crazy to trade Hudson befor e we know wht we've got this year with Beachy. Next year's another story entirely; one of the vet starters doesn't need to be resigned.

Gammons just trolling for hits, probably.

[NinersSBChamps]

our lineup, such that it is, is still better than theirs. By a wide margin, IMO. But Lee has been a hot pitcher so I'll try not to watch. We're not hitting worse pitchers.

Maybe they'll surprise me tonight. Anything below 10 K's will surprise me, my bar is low.

Young has done pretty well in the lead off spot too. I'd take Revere over our center fielder though.

[sentenza]

Over one hour before the first pitch this GDT is longer than yestersays complete GDT from the other forum.

[AUTiger7222]

our lineup, such that it is, is still better than theirs. By a wide margin, IMO. But Lee has been a hot pitcher so I'll try not to watch. We're not hitting worse pitchers.

Maybe they'll surprise me tonight. Anything below 10 K's will surprise me, my bar is low.

I disagree. Both lineups are about equal right now. If our guys were hitting (namely the Upton's) then yeah the Braves lineup would be better by a wide margin. But that's not the case.

[stpeteirish]

I disagree. Both lineups are about equal right now. If our guys were hitting (namely the Upton's) then yeah the Braves lineup would be better by a wide margin. But that's not the case.

I think we're basically saying the same thing. We have a better lineup, but some of our guys are not anywhere's close to where they should be.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Not giving up. At least Im not. Just saying it wont be pretty.

Just hope Maholm pitches well and we can win a low scoring game.

[AUTiger7222]

WOW! That's a strike? Braves don't stand a chance in hell.

[AUTiger7222]

Heyward robbed of another hit.

[AUTiger7222]

Justin with a 2 out double.

[TURBO]

Jason has the worse luck.

[NinersSBChamps]

Heyward ground out to second base as much as anyone on the team. The Phillies know that and Utley was in position.

[Julio3000]

It's just obscene at this point.

[BremanFan88]

Heyward ground out to second base as much as anyone on the team. The Phillies know that and Utley was in position.

Utley is one of the best 2B(Excellent range) in the game and had to make a good play to stop that ball. Your average 2B doesn't get to that.

[Julio3000]

Jason hit it hard and Utley made a good play. It's not like he rolled over it.

[jason27nc]

I hope this site is better than the last one.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Great idea guys.....let's give Cliff Lee runs to work with.

[BremanFan88]

Freddie and his defense. Good lord.

[NinersSBChamps]

Great start.

[AUTiger7222]

WOW WOW WOW. The Phillies have the lead, Cliff Lee pitching and Angel Hernandez as the home plate umpire. Gonna be a long night.

[BremanFan88]

Aaron Hernandez as the home plate umpire. Gonna be a long night.

Too much time on the Falcons board.

[NinersSBChamps]

I just hope we don't lose two games on the lead this weekend.

[Julio3000]

I hope this site is better than the last one.

You mean the last last one or the first last one?

[AUTiger7222]

Too much time on the Falcons board.

I get pissed off and type without thinking.

[ChapelHillMatt]

BJ is so awesome

[Julio3000]

I hope this site is better than the last one.

My friend, YOU have the power. MAKE IT SO.
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff511/poinsett/f9e8fe5e-8a8f-4148-9d90-08cc311010a5_zps425af816.jpg

[TDlxANDER]

Someone remind me what BJ does well again...

[AUTiger7222]

At least BJ didn't strikeout!

[jason27nc]

As a player I truly hate BJ Upton!

[BremanFan88]

I get pissed off and type without thinking.

The thought of Aaron back there seems like it would go better for us though...

[TDlxANDER]

As a player I truly hate BJ Upton!

He isn't even a good enough CF to make up for his crappy bat

[ChapelHillMatt]

Someone remind me what BJ does well again...

Make outs.

[Julio3000]

The thought of Aaron back there seems like it would go better for us though...

We might run into trouble if someone Crip-walked off the mound, though.

[NinersSBChamps]

Fathers up 1-0 in top of the second over Nats. They have runners and are looking for more.

[NinersSBChamps]

Make outs.

Steal money.

[CyYoung31]

Steal money.

Dat racism.

[AUTiger7222]

Almost a great catch by Justin.

[NinersSBChamps]

Dat racism.

Uggla is a thief too.

[zitothebrave]

Well this one may get out of hand in a hurry. Hope we can chase Lee cause we don't have a record of owning him. Need everyone to be patient tonight

[AUTiger7222]

Should be an out. He reached over the the railing.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Maholm isn't good either

[Julio3000]

Uggla is a thief too.

What do you expect from a filthy Swede?

/Det är rasistiskt.

[NinersSBChamps]

Kick the fan out for two reasons. One for looking like a douche and two for not catching the ball.

[Bdawg2309]

Why an out?

[CyYoung31]

This won't get overturned. Watch.

[AUTiger7222]

How in the hell was that a homerun?

[Julio3000]

Maholmrun.

[CyYoung31]

How in the hell was that a homerun?

/Angel Hernandez

[NinersSBChamps]

Glad I am leaving in a few minutes. This isn't watchable already.

[TDlxANDER]

Time to fold early...

[AUTiger7222]

You guys give up too soon. Giving up before a pitch is thrown...smh.

You were saying?

[CyYoung31]

You were saying?

He was saying you guys give up too soon.

[AUTiger7222]

Glad the Nationwide race is tonight. Braves game has already made me sick.

[ChapelHillMatt]

You were saying?

It's still too early.....I've never really understood why people give up on message boards. Does it make you feel better?

[Runnin]

I feel like we're about to go into a slide. The offensive turnaround hasn't really happened, even though we've had a couple of good games here and there, and the pitching staff who has been carrying us is due a breather.

[AUTiger7222]

He was saying you guys give up too soon.

No we just actually know what to expect.

[CyYoung31]

LOLHernandez

[Julio3000]

Whoooo GERALDO!

[AUTiger7222]

Gerald Laird tossed because of Angel Hernandez and is ridiculous strike calls.

[Julio3000]

OH **** GUYS WE DON'T HAVE A BACKUP CATCHER

[CyYoung31]

No we just actually know what to expect.

Cool. I'll be sure to get the Lotto numbers from you next week.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Angel Hernandez ladies and gentleman.

Worst umpire in sports.

[AUTiger7222]

It's still too early.....I've never really understood why people give up on message boards. Does it make you feel better?

Just stating the truth. There's no way the Braves win tonight. Cliff Lee has the lead and Angel Hernandez is calling all sorts of pitches strikes that aren't strikes. Stevie Wonder can see that the Braves don't have a chance at winning tonight.

[NinersSBChamps]

I would have had Fredi get ejected on accident because him and Laird look so similar.

[Bdawg2309]

Someone in the mlb needs to take one for the team and punch hernandez in the face

[ChapelHillMatt]

Just stating the truth. There's no way the Braves win tonight. Cliff Lee has the lead and Angel Hernandez is calling all sorts of pitches strikes that aren't strikes. Stevie Wonder can see that the Braves don't have a chance at winning tonight.

So we should just forfeit then?

[CyYoung31]

Hernandez may have just did us a favor.

[AUTiger7222]

Someone in the mlb needs to take one for the team and punch hernandez in the face

I would do it. Seriously. He needs to be knocked the **** out.

[NinersSBChamps]

Lost in the madness is the fact that MLBN wont be showing a live look in during Braves-Phillies tonight since we can't get no hit. :cooter::cooter::cooter::cooter::cooter::cooter::r ock::rock::rock::elefant::elefant::elefant::elefan t:

[tvsportscaster]

I'm afraid it looks like the Braves are in for a long evening. I guess I will be on Jeremy Lin watch to the Hawks.

[AUTiger7222]

So we should just forfeit then?

I don't even know what to say to this. If you wanna believe the Braves will somehow win then you're more than welcome to. I don't see it happening because of ANGEL ****ING HERHANDEZ.

[Julio3000]

I would do it. Seriously. He needs to be knocked the **** out.

I'd say Brian should get "crossed up" and let Angel get hit in the nuts, but Maholm doesn't throw hard enough to hurt him.

[TDlxANDER]

I hope we have so many players get tossed for arguing with Hernandez that we have to forfeit by the 7th.

[CyYoung31]

I'd say Brian should get "crossed up" and let Angel get hit in the nuts, but Maholm doesn't throw hard enough to hurt him.

Kimbrel time.

[ChapelHillMatt]

I don't even know what to say to this. If you wanna believe the Braves will somehow win then you're more than welcome to. I don't see it happening because of ANGEL ****ING HERHANDEZ.

My point is simple.

People want to players to play hard for 27 outs and keep fighting when things aren't going their way but at the first sign of adversity fans throw in the towel for some reason. Do I expect us to win tonight? Not really but I don't understand why people give up so easily. All it takes is one big inning to turn the game around.

[AUTiger7222]

I hope we have so many players get tossed for arguing with Hernandez that we have to forfeit by the 7th.

I'm up with that.

[CyYoung31]

I hope we have so many players get tossed for arguing with Hernandez that we have to forfeit by the 7th.

I'd rather just win the game, but that would definitely be a gas.

[Bdawg2309]

I don't even know what to say to this. If you wanna believe the Braves will somehow win then you're more than welcome to. I don't see it happening because of ANGEL ****ING HERHANDEZ.

Yeah.....that would be the only reason .......

[NinersSBChamps]

And now it's over.

[AUTiger7222]

My point is simple.

People want to players to play hard for 27 outs and keep fighting when things aren't going their way but at the first sign of adversity fans throw in the towel for some reason. Do I expect us to win tonight? Not really but I don't understand why people give up so easily. All it takes is one big inning to turn the game around.

Not when the Braves hitters are trying to do there jobs and have good at-bats (against a great pitcher) to get things started offensively and the umpire screws them without any lube.

[CyYoung31]

Did Ryan Howard just hit a homerun off a lefty?

[AUTiger7222]

My point is simple.

People want to players to play hard for 27 outs and keep fighting when things aren't going their way but at the first sign of adversity fans throw in the towel for some reason. Do I expect us to win tonight? Not really but I don't understand why people give up so easily. All it takes is one big inning to turn the game around.

And it appears that Maholm is serving up batting practice tonight too. Already 4-0.

[NinersSBChamps]

So glad we pushed Hudson back a day.

[TDlxANDER]

Glad Huddy didn't pitch tonight...Phils seem to have his number.

[ChapelHillMatt]

People still think Maholm is a good pitcher?

[CyYoung31]

Is Wood up yet?

[tvsportscaster]

Well, it appears the Braves lead will be down to 5 games after tonight. The Gnats are laying it on the Padres 4-1, and I am really scared the Braves will get swept this weekend in Philly. They appear to be getting back into one of their rutts again.

[AUTiger7222]

People still think Maholm is a good pitcher?

Nope. I told people he was pitching over his head and would crash and burn.

[AUTiger7222]

Is Wood up yet?

Nope. Nothing exciting enough has happened for Wood to get up yet.

[weso1]

Maholm's pitching like he wants to be replaced by Beachy.

[rico43]

I won't watch an inning tonight. I've seen enough baseball in my life with an unqualified incompetent behind the plate. ANd, yes, I'm talking about you, ghost of Eric Gregg.

Angel Hernandez, in my politically incorrect circle, is known as "Affirmative Action."

BTW, Greenbrier is a beautiful golf course. Hard to believe it's in West Virginia.

[TURBO]

Chipper Jones ‏@RealCJ10 6m

I will not watch a game, any game, officiated by Angel Hernandez! His incompetence amazes me and I'm tired of MLB doing squat about it! Nite

[NinersSBChamps]

Time for Noodles n' Company before the Sky Sox game.

[TURBO]

Just got home. What happen?

[Julio3000]

Chipper Jones ‏@RealCJ10 6m

I will not watch a game, any game, officiated by Angel Hernandez! His incompetence amazes me and I'm tired of MLB doing squat about it! Nite

Dag.

[NinersSBChamps]

Mr. 4-3 is a mid season form tonight.

[CyYoung31]

Just got home. What happen?

Angel Hernandez.

[TDlxANDER]

Just got home. What happen?

Jason grounded out to 2b...

[AUTiger7222]

Chipper Jones ‏@RealCJ10 6m

I will not watch a game, any game, officiated by Angel Hernandez! His incompetence amazes me and I'm tired of MLB doing squat about it! Nite

Guess people are going to accuse Chipper of being a quitter too.

[CyYoung31]

LOL, that's not a strike now?

Wait, why am I surprised?

[Julio3000]

Maholm's pitching like he wants to be replaced by Beachy.

Maholm's pitching like he wants to be replaced by whoever our long man is tonight.

[Bdawg2309]

Guess people are going to accuse Chipper of being a quitter too.
He did QUIT watching the game...

[CyYoung31]

LMFAO

[ChapelHillMatt]

Good grief

[AUTiger7222]

I really wish someone would knock the **** outta Angel Hernandez

[TDlxANDER]

Angel in beast mode tonight...take that hatuz

[TDlxANDER]

So who's the third catcher tonight?

[stpeteirish]

It's still too early.....I've never really understood why people give up on message boards. Does it make you feel better?

yes

[TURBO]

So who's the third catcher tonight?

Im waiting for the call :icwudt:

[stpeteirish]

Glad Huddy didn't pitch tonight...Phils seem to have his number.

Um.. what the hell do you think is going to happen tomorrow?

[stpeteirish]

Is Wood up yet?

hope not he'll need to go 4 tomorrow.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Is Joe in a bad mood tonight? He seems grumpy.

[TDlxANDER]

Um.. what the hell do you think is going to happen tomorrow?

Should I've put a (g) at the end of my statement?

[CyYoung31]

BJ Upton is officially the SVOD.

[tvsportscaster]

BJ Upton is absolutely worthless, and who doesn't see a complete game shutout by Cliff Lee tonight. Although, none of us should be surprised, we kind of had a feeling going into the night, this would happen.

[AUTiger7222]

Jason Heyward should be benched for continuing to dive head first into 1st base. I'm dead serious. STOP IT!!

[TURBO]

Jason Heyward should be benched for continuing to dive head first into 1st base. I'm dead serious. STOP IT!!

agreed.. its stupid

[AUTiger7222]

agreed.. its stupid

Yep. He's going to get hurt eventually and the last thing the Braves need is for him to get hurt.

[TDlxANDER]

Humberto Quintero on cycle watch

[TURBO]

booooom 3 run bomb Uggla

[AUTiger7222]

UGGLASMASH!

[TURBO]

look like he missed the tag

[TDlxANDER]

Lol...never even tagged him...

[TURBO]

oops lol

[TURBO]

should be a 1 run game

[AUTiger7222]

Double for McCann and the pinch-hitter is the potential tying run.

[Lville21]

Missed bunt call could change this inning. Could easily be a 5-4 game with tying runner on 2nd and no one out. The 1B ump was in horrible position to make that call.

[AUTiger7222]

Hit for Reed. Nice job.

[ChapelHillMatt]

I guess we have a chance to win now.

[Bdawg2309]

So much for people going to watch something else.......

[TDlxANDER]

At least we get into their bullpen...

[TURBO]

alright a 1 run game

[AUTiger7222]

Wow! 5-4!

[AUTiger7222]

So much for people going to watch something else.......

That's one thing I will never do. I never stop watching.

[TDlxANDER]

Would love to start over right now

[TURBO]

Get ready for fastball J Up

[AUTiger7222]

Justin just can't hit high fastballs.

[AUTiger7222]

Good inning. Now we've got a chance since Lee is out of the game.

[Julio3000]

That was a great swing by the Owl.

[DaneHill]

Can we get Smoltz's old shrink to come in and hypnotize Justin into thinking it's April please? :roll:

[DaneHill]

I shouldn't complain. I was out for my run all game. Came in, and they promptly scored 4 runs and knocked Lee out of the game. So, I'm not nearly as frustrated as all of you who've been watching the game from the start.

[Julio3000]

Just for reference:

būbō (genitive būbōnis); m, third declension
an owl, especially the Eurasian eagle owl, Bubo bubo.
...
From Medieval Latin būbō, from Ancient Greek βουβών (boubōn, “groin, swelling”). (pathology) An inflamed swelling of a lymph node, especially in the armpit or the groin, due to an infection such as bubonic plague, gonorrhea, tuberculosis or syphilis.

I find this appropriate for Uggla, somehow.

[AUTiger7222]

Nice job Avilan.

[ChapelHillMatt]

I love Joe Simpson

[Bdawg2309]

Bring in terdo when the pitchers spot comes up

[AUTiger7222]

Bring in terdo when the pitchers spot comes up

^^^This

[Lville21]

None of the remaining options on the bench are all that attractive against Papelbon:

Terdoslavich
Pastornicky
Janish


I go with Pastor in that case.

BJ is 2-14 with 9 K vs. Pap
McCann is 1-7 vs. Pap

[DaneHill]

Come on, Avilan. One more out!

[AUTiger7222]

None of the remaining options on the bench are all that attractive against Papelbon:

Terdoslavich
Pastornicky
Janish


I go with Pastor in that case.

BJ is 2-14 with 9 K vs. Pap
McCann is 1-7 vs. Pap

I go with Joey T because he has the chance to tie it on 1 swing unlike Rev and Janish. And I haven't liked the at-bats I've seen from Rev when he pinch-hits.

[Mrs. Meta]

Pinch hit Teheran OMG

[Lville21]

No stats to back it up, but the Upton Bros. seem like they are always in 0-2 counts.

[Mrs. Meta]

Neither Upton can hit a fastballol.

[Mrs. Meta]

I guess that's why they call it the blues.

[zitothebrave]

Why did BJ get to face Papelbon? That's mindnumbingly stupid

[AUTiger7222]

Joey T's 1st MLB hit!

[TDlxANDER]

Way to go Joey

[Lville21]

Good job, kid.


Andrelton should go gapping here.

[Mrs. Meta]

No one else you'd want but Andy up here.

[Julio3000]

Way to be the Terd in the punchbowl, Joey.

[AUTiger7222]

This is why Simba shouldn't be hitting lead off. Most at-bats on the team.

[TDlxANDER]

Andy just had his pitch to clobber there

[Lville21]

Dom Brown came close to an injury there....

[AUTiger7222]

And fittingly the Phillies win by 1 run thanks to Angel Freaking Hernandez.

[TURBO]

booooo

[Lville21]

Andrelton pops out. What's new?

[Bdawg2309]

dat error by freeman......

[TURBO]

Need a win a tomorrow

[TDlxANDER]

How good of a CF is BJ? I'm just not impressed with him. Someone hurry and give me a stat that shows he saves a bunch of runs...

[CyYoung31]

dat error by freeman......

Dat botched homerun call.

Dat missed call on the Upton tag.

[TURBO]

How good of a CF is BJ? I'm just not impressed with him. Someone hurry and give me a stat that shows he saves a bunch of runs...

Im sure someone will. He is a good defender

[CyYoung31]

How good of a CF is BJ? I'm just not impressed with him. Someone hurry and give me a stat that shows he saves a bunch of runs...

He doesn't save nearly enough runs to make up for his bat. However, if he just plays to his career averages he does. Too bad he decided to tank when he came over.

[TURBO]

http://cdn.meme.li/instances/300x300/37672846.jpg

[thethe]

He doesn't save nearly enough runs to make up for his bat. However, if he just plays to his career averages he does. Too bad he decided to tank when he came over.

Both UPton brothers have been huge dissapointments.

[tvsportscaster]

I want BJ's butt on the bench tomorrow, move Heyward to CF and give Joey T a start. BJ is pretty much worthless at this point.

[Bdawg2309]

how many years does justin have left?

[thethe]

I want BJ's butt on the bench tomorrow, move Heyward to CF and give Joey T a start. BJ is pretty much worthless at this point.

This is a really bad situation. He is utterly worthless right now and he is here for four more years. They have to do something drastic to figure this out.

[thethe]

how many years does justin have left?

Two more after this one.

[TURBO]

thethe, wheres the avatar

[thethe]

thethe, wheres the avatar

Too lazy to put it up. Been out golfing and such.

[AUTiger7222]

Braves need to get back to walking. Just 2 walks the last 3 games. Just 14 RISP chances. That's why they have lost last 3 games.

[thethe]

Braves need to get back to walking. Just 2 walks the last 3 games. Just 14 RISP chances. That's why they have lost last 3 games.

You're not going to walk much against Lee.

We will be fine. Just win the next game. Thats always the mantra.

[AUTiger7222]

http://cdn.meme.li/instances/300x300/37672846.jpg

I wanna "Thank" this post. LOL

[Bdawg2309]

terrible road team is terrible

[TURBO]

I wanna "Thank" this post. LOL

do it

[thethe]

do it

Baccardi and Coke

[AUTiger7222]

You're not going to walk much against Lee.

We will be fine. Just win the next game. Thats always the mantra.

Yes Lee doesn't walk people but still. 2 total walks in the last 3 games. Only 14 chances with RISP.

Wednesday - 0 Walks, 2-for-6 RISP
Thursday - 1 Walk, 1-for-4 RISP
Friday - 1 Walk, 2-for-4 RISP

[AUTiger7222]

do it

There is no "like" or "thank" button yet but you got your rep point for it.

[Bdawg2309]

Yes Lee doesn't walk people but still. 2 total walks in the last 3 games. Only 14 chances with RISP.

Wednesday - 0 Walks, 2-for-6 RISP
Thursday - 1 Walk, 1-for-4 RISP
Friday - 1 Walk, 2-for-4 RISP

this team sucks with RISP anyways

[TURBO]

There is no "like" or "thank" button yet but you got your rep point for it.

I know. I feel special

[AUTiger7222]

this team sucks with RISP anyways

But 2-for-6, 1-for-4 and 2-for-4 is not sucking. It's just not enough chances. And why do you think the Braves were winning all those games? It's because they were hitting RISP.

Go back to the last win against the Marlins. They were 8-for-22. That's how you score 11 runs without hitting a homerun.

[CyYoung31]

Both UPton brothers have been huge dissapointments.

At least Justin has been productive. He hasn't been playing up to his potential since April though.

[AUTiger7222]

Upton brothers since May 29th.

Justin - .212 AVG, .309 OBP, 580 OPS
BJ - .216 AVG,.328 OBP, .730 OPS

[NinersSBChamps]

Sky Sox won over the Reno Aces. Juan Niscasio pitched 8 shutout innings. They shot fireworks off afterwards too! I also drank a beer in the family section and was asked to leave the section.

[zitothebrave]

Upton brothers since May 29th.

Justin - .212 AVG, .309 OBP, 580 OPS
BJ - .216 AVG,.328 OBP, .730 OPS

You pick the weirdest samples.

[thethe]

You pick the weirdest samples.

Regardless of when you pick that sample its a sample of over a month showing the Justin Upton is sucking ballz.

[zitothebrave]

I'll disagree, Justin's power has been sucking balls, I like other aspects of his game in June. He won't hit for as miserable power as he did in June but if he gets his normal power back to go with his lowered K-Rate he could have a month that could rival April except for the homer totals

If you look at his month by months, April is obviously far and away his best month, but look at the other numbers, not just average/OBP/SLGApril
BB%, K%, HR/FB%

April - 14.3/26.8/38.7
May - 15.0/28.3/9.1
June - 12.6/24.3/5.3

Now obviously that HR/FB in June is putrid, but unless he's hurt, there's no way that stays that low. There's also no way his HR/FB was gonna be 38% all season as well. Justin had a freak April and is making up for it now. Does he continue to slide and have a meh season like last year? Does he hold aroudn this point and have an expected season? Does he improve and have a great season? All are important questions and no one knows the answers to them.

[thethe]

I just love how you believe deep down that this is some sort of statistical correction and not that Upton has some serious red flags.

[zitothebrave]

Only red flag is that he could be hurt. He didn't just forget how to hit homers, and he wasn't gonna hit at a 38% clip, he was boudn to have some terrible months to adjust for that impossibly high HR/FB. He's now back around his average and as long as he's healthy he's bound to get back in the right direction, as long as he's healthy. His non FB numbers have been fairly consistent all year. OBviously the power decline could be an injury, but it also could be him have a herculean month and having issues trying to replicate it later that pretty much happen to everyone.

[thethe]

Upton is really not too far off his career numbers which have a substantial sample size to them. Why are we to believe he will become an elite player?

[zitothebrave]

Upton is really not too far off his career numbers which have a substantial sample size to them. Why are we to believe he will become an elite player?

Who said he was playing like an elite player? Could hit that point, may not, who knows.

[thethe]

Who said he was playing like an elite player? Could hit that point, may not, who knows.

Nobody is saying he playing like one now but you and many others on this board said he is an elite player and will be one for this season. Don't run away from that statement now Zito.

[zitothebrave]

Said he's an elite talent. We're trading for an MVP potential player. he could be better than this could be worse, who knows. This season hasn't played out so you saying he won't have a great season.

[thethe]

Said he's an elite talent. We're trading for an MVP potential player. he could be better than this could be worse, who knows. This season hasn't played out so you saying he won't have a great season.

Anything is possible and I have always acknowledged that but for myself and others to even suggest that he won't have an MVP type season is scoffed at over here. You are clearly calming down on your rhetoric when it comes to UPton and I know that you realize that but can never admit something. Many of us raised red flags why he was even traded in the first place. I admit, April had me going as it did all of Braves nation and I really hope its just an injury because we need Justin. But, the fact of the matter is that he has not given us the season we were expecting and has been incredibly inconsistent in his career. I think people around here need to change their expectations of all of our players. The projections and reality are far apart in many situations.

[zitothebrave]

What rhetoric are you talking about. Saying Justin is an elite talent? I think that his number 2 BA ranking before playing a single baseball game speaks to his talent. As far as season someone was expecting I can't vouch for what you were expecting.

[AUTiger7222]

You pick the weirdest samples.

I didn't pick them out. Someone else posted them on Facebook and I posted them over here. Just amazes me that Justin is "off limits" because of April even though he has been pretty ****ty for a long time now.