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Garmel
07-30-2015, 06:07 PM
Braves
1. Nick Markakis (L) RF
2. Cameron Maybin (R) CF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Adonis Garcia (R) LF
5. A.J. Pierzynski (L) C
6. Chris Johnson (R) 3B
7. Jace Peterson (L) 2B
8. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
9. Shelby Miller (R) P

Phillies
1. Ben Revere (L) LF
2. Cesar Hernandez (S) 2B
3. Maikel Franco (R) 3B
4. Ryan Howard (L) 1B
5. Odubel Herrera (L) CF
6. Freddy Galvis (S) SS
7. Domonic Brown (L) RF
8. Carlos Ruiz (R) C
9. Aaron Harang (R) P

Garmel
07-30-2015, 06:08 PM
Is it my imagination or is Harang getting plumper?

nsacpi
07-30-2015, 06:15 PM
Expecting a huge game from Jace.

nsacpi
07-30-2015, 06:16 PM
Is it my imagination or is Harang getting plumper?He is huge

Julio3000
07-30-2015, 06:17 PM
Cheese steaks.

thewupk
07-30-2015, 06:18 PM
2 worst offenses in the NL. Should be fun.

UNCBlue012
07-30-2015, 06:25 PM
Jesus Miller. Get this dude out.

USMA76
07-30-2015, 06:32 PM
Miller has the unfortunate certainty that as soon as he gives up a run, he's on the hook for the "L."

bravesnumberone
07-30-2015, 06:44 PM
Hart coming up on the broadcast.

CyYoung31
07-30-2015, 06:53 PM
Hate to say it, but Hart sold me a little bit in that interview.

Still not crazy about the trade though.

thewupk
07-30-2015, 06:55 PM
Hate to say it, but Hart sold me a little bit in that interview.

Still not crazy about the trade though.

I can see why they did it. If Olivera is what many think he is then we are paying him a 3rd of what his market value is. If they use the perceived savings of that value and actually get some top tier players then the Braves could become pretty good pretty quick.

CyYoung31
07-30-2015, 06:56 PM
I can see why they did it. If Olivera is what many think he is then we are paying him a 3rd of what his market value is. If they use the perceived savings of that value and actually get some top tier players then the Braves could become pretty good pretty quick.

Which is basically what Hart said in the interview. I just hope he comes through on his plans.

USMA76
07-30-2015, 06:57 PM
Hart coming up on the broadcast.

Hart's pretty much saying what we expect him to say. I sure hope he knows what he's doing.

msstate7
07-30-2015, 06:57 PM
3 straight singles to load bases and FF lets harang k him. Good grief

thethe
07-30-2015, 06:57 PM
Hate to say it, but Hart sold me a little bit in that interview.

Still not crazy about the trade though.

Could you recap what he said? I only have the away broadcast.

thewupk
07-30-2015, 07:03 PM
Soemhow got 1 run out of all that

USMA76
07-30-2015, 07:05 PM
Could you recap what he said? I only have the away broadcast.

Main points:

creates financial flexibility by shedding payroll,
gives more depth to our system,
gets us closer to our goals going into next year and more importantly 2017,
puts Olivera behind Freeman in the batting order so pitchers have to be more honest to Freddie,
we've been stockpiling arms and it's time to trade those to improve our offensive production

WaitingFor2017
07-30-2015, 07:09 PM
Shelby Miller says, "Sweet baby Jesus, I finally got a run!"

smootness
07-30-2015, 07:11 PM
Main points:

creates financial flexibility by shedding payroll,
gives more depth to our system,
gets us closer to our goals going into next year and more importantly 2017,
puts Olivera behind Freeman in the batting order so pitchers have to be more honest to Freddie,
we've been stockpiling arms and it's time to trade those to improve our offensive production

I can get behind some of the rationale used. I don't really understand this adding depth. We got Bird but gave up Peraza, though we do get the pick.

I also don't understand all the financial flexibility this gives up. The only thing we shed was Arroyo, which wasn't much. We may have created some if Olivera produces for cheap, but Wood was also cheap.

I'm fine if they want to start building now, but I want us to trade our surplus of young pitching for young hitting, even if it's not major league ready. I don't want to go get some guys 30 and older.

USMA76
07-30-2015, 07:15 PM
I can get behind some of the rationale used. I don't really understand this adding depth. We got Bird but gave up Peraza, though we do get the pick.

I also don't understand all the financial flexibility this gives up. The only thing we shed was Arroyo, which wasn't much. We may have created some if Olivera produces for cheap, but Wood was also cheap.

I'm fine if they want to start building now, but I want us to trade our surplus of young pitching for young hitting, even if it's not major league ready. I don't want to go get some guys 30 and older.

I wasn't saying I agreed or disagreed with Hart's comments. I was merely trying (at thethe's request) to summarize what Hart said on the Braves broadcast since he's stuck with the Phillies announcers.

smootness
07-30-2015, 07:22 PM
I wasn't saying I agreed or disagreed with Hart's comments. I was merely trying (at thethe's request) to summarize what Hart said on the Braves broadcast since he's stuck with the Phillies announcers.

No, I know. I was just responding to Hart's comments.

I also don't like us trying to rationalize this using the dearth of hitters on the FA market. We've known what the market held since before we made any moves. That doesn't justify overpaying for a hitter now.

Julio3000
07-30-2015, 07:24 PM
FWIW Hart said that Olivera would go to the team complex Florida to finish his DL stint, then catch a rehab assignment, then probably end up in the bigs late in August.

thethe
07-30-2015, 07:30 PM
Miller has not looked good tonight at all.

UNCBlue012
07-30-2015, 07:32 PM
Now Miller sucks too! Oh no!

thethe
07-30-2015, 07:32 PM
Simmons is such a smart baseball player.

Julio3000
07-30-2015, 07:32 PM
I <3 Andrelton.

Julio3000
07-30-2015, 07:34 PM
I've never seen a player who steals outs in as many different ways as Tron.

NinersSBChamps
07-30-2015, 07:34 PM
Should have sold high on Miller like we did with Wood.

NinersSBChamps
07-30-2015, 07:35 PM
I've never seen a player who steals outs in as many different ways as Tron.

You ever seen Jace on the base paths?

The Chosen One
07-30-2015, 07:35 PM
Gonna be sad when Hart flips Andrelton.

thethe
07-30-2015, 07:35 PM
I've never seen a player who steals outs in as many different ways as Tron.

Just warm feelings all around.

Braves1976
07-30-2015, 07:37 PM
Gonna be sad when Hart flips Andrelton.

Bill Shanks has been pushing that and saying the Braves will consider trading him. Just a matter of time.

Julio3000
07-30-2015, 07:38 PM
You ever seen Jace on the base paths?

Steals, not donates.

The Chosen One
07-30-2015, 07:38 PM
Would love to see Harang and Williams duel before the end of the season.

USMA76
07-30-2015, 07:38 PM
The "sniff test" comes up fishy on this IMO. For Olvera's age and what it cost the Dodgers to sign him, why was he languishing in Dodgers minor league system--injuries? It all just seems rather strange.

Julio3000
07-30-2015, 07:38 PM
Would love to see Harang and Williams duel before the end of the season.

Clash of the Titans. Earthshaking stuff.

buck75
07-30-2015, 07:39 PM
Braves have brought up Marksberry LHP reliever who has done well at Gwinnett

smootness
07-30-2015, 07:40 PM
It seems Miller could have TJ in a couple years. Think we could package him and Jenkins for Josh Hamilton?

Runnin
07-30-2015, 07:40 PM
Gonna be sad when Hart flips Andrelton.
That aint funny.

NinersSBChamps
07-30-2015, 07:42 PM
It seems Miller could have TJ in a couple years. Think we could package him and Jenkins for Josh Hamilton?

Depends on how much the Angels and or Rangers pay of his bonus.

Julio3000
07-30-2015, 07:43 PM
Braves have brought up Marksberry LHP reliever who has done well at Gwinnett

So, Marksberry, Brigham, and who? Whoever replaces Alex in the rotation? I suppose that's El Pequeno Harangutan.

Heyward
07-30-2015, 07:44 PM
Bill Shanks has been pushing that and saying the Braves will consider trading him. Just a matter of time.

Wouldnt be surprised, probably not til Albies proves he's legit though.

buck75
07-30-2015, 07:47 PM
So, Marksberry, Brigham, and who? Whoever replaces Alex in the rotation? I suppose that's El Pequeno Harangutan.

Ryan Kelly was recalled. Big Boy Perez will probably take Alex' spot.

UNCBlue012
07-30-2015, 07:54 PM
Have you lost your mind, Miller? This is the Phillies...

msstate7
07-30-2015, 07:55 PM
Our "ace" vs harang and we're gonna get b*tch slapped. Make it stop! Please end this year now...

thethe
07-30-2015, 07:56 PM
Our "ace" vs harang and we're gonna get b*tch slapped. Make it stop! Please end this year now...

At this point losses are a good thing.

Julio3000
07-30-2015, 07:56 PM
Ok, thanks. I guess they're just rolling deep in the 'pen til WP's turn comes up, then.

msstate7
07-30-2015, 08:08 PM
At this point losses are a good thing.

Maybe, maybe not. I don't want our young players to settle in as losers. The mets played well last year down the stretch and they've carried it into this year.

jsebe10
07-30-2015, 08:11 PM
Our "ace" vs harang and we're gonna get b*tch slapped. Make it stop! Please end this year now...

Season is over on Sept 4. Please believe.

thewupk
07-30-2015, 08:13 PM
4 runs allowed against the Phillies?

Heyward
07-30-2015, 08:17 PM
Philly has played alot better as of late but still not good.

smootness
07-30-2015, 08:26 PM
We are now 5 runs away from having the second worst run differential in the NL, 10 away from 3rd worst in baseball.

We could certainly end up with a top 3-5 pick.

thewupk
07-30-2015, 08:26 PM
We are now 5 runs away from having the second worst run differential in the NL, 10 away from 3rd worst in baseball.

We could certainly end up with a top 3-5 pick.

Let's aim high

USMA76
07-30-2015, 08:28 PM
Right now this team could suck a basketball through 50 feet of garden hose.

CrimsonCowboy
07-30-2015, 08:38 PM
Getting more and more ready for football season by the day.

WaitingFor2017
07-30-2015, 08:40 PM
W/L record since Fredi's extension? About to be 4-9. Maybe the front office should've waited to see how Fredi handled the tougher teams on the schedule.

I know two offensive players were traded very early in that record, too, so that is accounted for.

sturg33
07-30-2015, 08:41 PM
Can't trade Simmons now... it was an option when we had a ML ready SS behind him. Now we don't

57Brave
07-30-2015, 08:42 PM
"Getting more and more ready for football season by the day."


Not me !

Andrelton Simmons is the most entertaining baseball player since Andruw Jones

thewupk
07-30-2015, 08:45 PM
10 hits and all singles? lol

sturg33
07-30-2015, 08:46 PM
10 hits and all singles? lol

Fun to watch

Runnin
07-30-2015, 08:54 PM
Bwaahahaha. Attaboy Eury.

CrimsonCowboy
07-30-2015, 09:03 PM
Going to be fun facing Ken Giles the next few years

USMA76
07-30-2015, 09:04 PM
Time to post the elephant in the "dying cockroach" position in commemoration of another Braves loss.

WaitingFor2017
07-30-2015, 09:07 PM
Only 7.5 games up on Philly for worst record. How about losing the next 3 to get to a 4.5 game lead with roughly 45 games left.

thewupk
07-30-2015, 09:07 PM
Only 7.5 games up on Philly for worst record. How about losing the next 3 to get to a 4.5 game lead with roughly 45 games left.

sounds like a plan

jpx7
07-30-2015, 09:09 PM
Awesome Game, Great Loss!

buck75
07-31-2015, 10:48 AM
Perez has been recalled and Kelly was sent back down.