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Julio3000
09-21-2015, 06:30 PM
Shelby vs Jawbreaker
UNCBlue012
09-21-2015, 06:49 PM
Shelby has been a hot pile of dog poo for the last half of the season or so. lol
zitothebrave
09-21-2015, 07:17 PM
Shelby has been a hot pile of dog poo for the last half of the season or so. lol

It's what the stat minded folk said would happen, his ERA would come close to his FIP and that's basically what happened.
thewupk
09-21-2015, 07:19 PM
It's what the stat minded folk said would happen, his ERA would come close to his FIP and that's basically what happened.

Which means we hate him and are crying about Heyward
zitothebrave
09-21-2015, 07:37 PM
Which means we hate him and are crying about Heyward

Well, I am still crying about Heyward. I consider logic and emotion to be 2 different things.
thewupk
09-21-2015, 07:45 PM
Well, I am still crying about Heyward. I consider logic and emotion to be 2 different things.

It's sports. It's rarely 2 different things in this context.
50PoundHead
09-21-2015, 07:56 PM
Miller has thrown a ton of pitches this year and Gonzalez sends him out for the 6th.

I think one thing Miller will work on for next year is a better out pitch. He's gassed.
zitothebrave
09-21-2015, 08:04 PM
It's sports. It's rarely 2 different things in this context.

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Julio3000
09-21-2015, 08:52 PM
Everyone wish Dan Winkler a happy dehhhhhhhhhhbut.
buck75
09-21-2015, 08:54 PM
Winkler and Burhaha looked good. Winkler seems to throw a rising fastball at 87 (not quite like Kimbrel's at 97).
50PoundHead
09-21-2015, 09:20 PM
How much do Winkler's pitches move?
buck75
09-22-2015, 06:31 AM
How much do Winkler's pitches move?

Looks like his fastball takes off/moves just when it reaches the batter. The Mets batters were striking out with the look on their faces "I should have hit that 87-90 mph fastball, but ..."
gcbraves
09-22-2015, 08:07 AM
Two K's and a walk, and dinged an umpire with his first pitch...a great debut by the Fonz.
nsacpi
09-22-2015, 08:24 AM
Looks like his fastball takes off/moves just when it reaches the batter. The Mets batters were striking out with the look on their faces "I should have hit that 87-90 mph fastball, but ..."

Kinda like Cody Martin.
50PoundHead
09-22-2015, 08:51 AM
Kinda like Cody Martin.

Well, let's hope his fastballs don't rise all the way out of the park like Cody's seem to do.
nsacpi
09-22-2015, 08:57 AM
Well, let's hope his fastballs don't rise all the way out of the park like Cody's seem to do.

Both will always be vulnerable to the long ball. But both will also generate a good strikeout rate. And for both the key will be the walk rate. With a low walk rate, the damage from the long balls will be generally acceptable.

Winkler's off-speed stuff might be a little better, which will help with keeping hitters off the fastball.
Julio3000
09-22-2015, 09:02 AM
Hopefully the deception in his delivery and limited exposure coming out of the 'pen will make him a little more survivable than Cody.
Braves1976
09-22-2015, 06:24 PM
Hopefully the deception in his delivery and limited exposure coming out of the 'pen will make him a little more survivable than Cody.

He also showed he can strikeout lefties, good start vs them at least giving us hope that he can be more than a ROOGY. If so then that would make a comp to Moylan not really valid as Moylan is a true ROOGY.