Pastornicky

[Tapate50]

MLB.com's Mark Bowman reports that Tyler Pastornicky's left knee injury is "starting to sound like more than just a day-to-day deal."
Pastornicky underwent an MRI Thursday, and although the results are not yet known, it sounds like the news won't be good. The Braves are getting thin on second base options, as Dan Uggla (eye surgery) is already on the DL.
Source: Mark Bowman on Twitter

[Garmel]

Since La Stella is in Pensacola right now it wouldn't take much time to get him up here if we need him.

[The Chosen One]

$5 says Uggla paid Heyward to do it.

Uggla's all like "come on homie, I know you dont love baseball but I know you LOVEEEEE money. I make 8 figures a year, you're still at 6. I'll throw you some paper your way if you take him out."

[BlackwaterPark]

Great news, would like to see La Stella though

[Hawk]

Bowman says the Braves are 'working on getting an infielder via a waiver deal.'

I wonder who they are considering.

[jpx7]

Bowman says the Braves are 'working on getting an infielder via a waiver deal.'

I wonder who they are considering.

Chase Utley?

[Tapate50]

Zito keeps proclaiming how world beating Heywards D is in Rf, but you definitely have to deduct points for putting his team mates on the DL

[Krovahn]

Probably just trying to get Brendon Ryan in a waiver deal.

[Heyward]

Chase Utley?

Robby Cano.

[Dalyn]

Great news, would like to see La Stella though

Great news? Seriously? :mad0182:

[BlackwaterPark]

??????????

[The Chosen One]

??????????

You're saying it's great news Pastor may be seriously hurt just so you can see La Stella?

[Hawk]

Chase Utley?

If we acquired both Jimmy Rollins and Michael Young we could make a ... Chase Uley ... just missing a T.

Apparently the Phillies have a 2:30PM news conference, per beat writer Zolecki.

[The Chosen One]

If we acquired both Jimmy Rollins and Michael Young we could make a ... Chase Uley ... just missing a T.

Apparently the Phillies have a 2:30PM news conference, per beat writer Zolecki.

That's deep bro.

[jpx7]

Robby Cano.

I'm betting it's both.

[The Chosen One]

lol Phillies have a 2:30 news conference... WOW. I'll dance in this rain if it's Chase Utley. lol

[Hawk]

That's deep bro.

And that's only if we're allowed to reuse an 'E.' :eusa_dance:

[jpx7]

lI'll dance in this rain if it's Chase Utley.

So it's fair to say that the acquisition of Utley would make you wet?

[Heyward]

lol Phillies have a 2:30 news conference... WOW. I'll dance in this rain if it's Chase Utley. lol

Lol they just signed him to an extension, really doubt it.

[Heyward]

If I were to guess, they part ways with Manuel.

[Hawk]

In all likelihood, it's Michael 'I'm so' Young.

I think I would rather have Keith Lockhart come out of retirement using his new acquired compromising pictures of Fredi Gonzalez and Gerry Laird.

[Hawk]

If I were to guess, they part ways with Manuel.

Looks like you are right, manager change.

Can't believe they wouldn't wait until the end of the season, unless Manuel is the one who wanted out.

[bravesnumberone]

Wish we could just rent Utley and then give him back lol.

[Tapate50]

If I were to guess, they part ways with Manuel.

I guess he was supposed to make his players age backwards?

Maybe he wanted out.

[Hawk]

Braves now saying officially that Pastornicky is out for remainder of season with a torn ACL. Surgery Monday.

Damn.

[bravesnumberone]

Yeah, looks like a new manager.

[bravesnumberone]

Well, it's now critical we get someone in to play second base. (With a competent glove of course.) Uggla may come back fine in September, but we need some insurance.

[Hawk]

Braves call up Phil Gosselin, not LaStella.

[stpeteirish]

Braves now saying officially that Pastornicky is out for remainder of season with a torn ACL. Surgery Monday.

Damn.

and he finished the inning. Tough kid. I'd pick up Ryan Roberts.

[Tapate50]

That experiment ended rather quickly. Nice job Heyward :eusa_clap:

[Tapate50]

Braves call up Phil Gosselin, not La Stella.

Thats sort of surprising hearing that. We had indications that we would skip Goss.

[Heyward]

Braves call up Phil Gosselin, not La Stella.

Wish they'd give LaStella a shot.

[Dalyn]

Braves now saying officially that Pastornicky is out for remainder of season with a torn ACL. Surgery Monday.

Damn.


:Sad:

[bravesnumberone]

.669 OPS in AA and AAA this year. Vomit.

[Dalyn]

That experiment ended rather quickly. Nice job Heyward :eusa_clap:

WTF? Since when did people start celebrating injuries?

[Hawk]

IIRC, Gosselin is the guy who homered off Strasburg in the first inning of his last start (and loss) with San Diego State.

But it seems like I haven't heard a thing about him since 2010, Minor League stats far from impressive.

[jpx7]

WTF? Since when did people start celebrating injuries?

Earlier in this thread:


Great news

[Heyward]

Why not LaStella.

Doesnt affect his contract status, is 24, what more does he need to do?

Or maybe working on a trade.

[Dalyn]

Earlier in this thread:

I know. I responded to it, too. Ridiculous, if you ask me.

[Tapate50]

WTF? Since when did people start celebrating injuries?

There isn't a sarcasm icon that I am aware of. I was being sarcastic in a number of different ways. It apparently doesn't translate to text like I'd hoped.

[jpx7]

.669 OPS in AA and AAA this year. Vomit.

Now I really hope they make a waiver-deal for Ryan Roberts, or even Michael Young. Gosselin is, at the plate, effectively cabbage.

[Bdawg2309]

.669 OPS in AA and AAA this year. Vomit.

:facepalm:
http://i.imgur.com/tcxz1Rr.gif

[bravesnumberone]

If anything, it'll make Paul Janish feel reasonably good about his hitting abilities.

[Dalyn]

Why not LaStella.

Doesnt affect his contract status, is 24, what more does he need to do?

Or maybe working on a trade.

Gosselin makes very little sense. He is pretty terrible (has some success against LHP).

[Tapate50]

:facepalm:
http://i.imgur.com/tcxz1Rr.gif

Nicely done.

[Heyward]

.669 OPS in AA and AAA this year. Vomit.

Turrible.

If it's Gosselin/Janish platoon :facepalm:

[Heyward]

Gosselin makes very little sense. He is pretty terrible (has some success against LHP).

Agreed, can only hope this is a couple day fix and they trade for a second baseman.

If this is what is filing in for Uggla, we're in trouble.

[gilesfan]

Uggla has been worth less than a win this year. Not like we've gotten much from 2B before now.

I would say La Stealla for the time being while searching waiver wire.

[Braves1976]

The Braves must be close to making a trade, if so that would explain Gosselin instead of La Stella. Gosselin is someone they can add to the 40-man and then drop from it without any issues.

That said, I hate losing Pastornicky for the season. This is bad news and even worse since we'd already lost Pena, etc.

[Heyward]

I wouldn't hate Michael Young but he hasn't played 2B in awhile.

[gilesfan]

I wouldn't hate Michael Young but he hasn't played 2B in awhile.

and cant

[bravesnumberone]

Hell Medlen could play some second base in a pinch, I'm sure. It has to be us getting close to a trade because I'd take a 50-year-old one-legged Chipper over Gosselin.

[Bj1133]

The Braves must be close to making a trade, if so that would explain Gosselin instead of La Stella. Gosselin is someone they can add to the 40-man and then drop from it without any issues.

That said, I hate losing Pastornicky for the season. This is bad news and even worse since we'd already lost Pena, etc.

With less than 60 days left in the season, can players still be moved to the 60 day DL? If so, there are a few guys (Hudson, Martinez, Pena, even Pastor) on the 40 man that could be moved to the 60 day DL to clear a spot

[Braves1976]

and cant

Young makes no sense for us. No doubt about that. He can hardly even play first base anymore. He's a DH that's tried to play the field again without success.

[Heyward]

and cant

I know, should of just called up Tommy.

[AUTiger7222]

Absolutely stupid move!

[Tapate50]

Hurry back Dan...

[Braves1976]

With less than 60 days left in the season, can players still be moved to the 60 day DL? If so, there are a few guys (Hudson, Martinez, Pena, even Pastor) on the 40 man that could be moved to the 60 day DL to clear a spot

That's true, but they might like to save an extra spot or two just in case. It also depends on how many they plan to add to the 40-man come Sept. too.

[Heyward]

Absolutely stupid move!

Yup, if they roll with Janish and Gosselin, I don't even know.

Not sure what more LaStella needs to do.

[Braves1976]

I think it's safe to say Janish is our starting second baseman now. But we better make a move soon to change that.

[Heyward]

I think it's safe to say Janish is our starting second baseman now. But we better make a move soon to change that.

At least there will be good defense up the middle....

Hitting wise though, smh.l

[thethe]

Who would have thought I'd be hoping for Uggla to come back quickly.

Feel so bad for Pastor.

[BremanFan88]

So we don't have a ML 2B, we have a good 2B prospect in AA, we don't call up good 2B prospect from AA when we don't have a ML 2B. Makes perfect sense to me.

[thethe]

So we don't have a ML 2B, we have a good 2B prospect in AA, we don't call up good 2B prospect from AA when we don't have a ML 2B. Makes perfect sense to me.

Only thing that makes sense is if a deal is in the books and they didn't want to put LaStella on the 40 man. I suppose another answer is that they want LaStella to finish the AA season and then come up.

[Heyward]

Only thing that makes sense is if a deal is in the books and they didn't want to put LaStella on the 40 man. I suppose another answer is that they want LaStella to finish the AA season and then come up.

There were plenty of ways to put LaStella on the 40.

I don't know who on the waiver wire they could get though.

[Diesel]

Definitely a trade in the works. I have little doubt that the Braves will bring in a new 2nd baseman in the next few days.

[thethe]

Definitely a trade in the works. I have little doubt that the Braves will bring in a new 2nd baseman in the next few days.

Yup. This regular season isn't over. Braves need to ensure they get as many wins as possible and having a non-major leaguer like Goselin on the team is just not a move the Braves normally make.

[bravebonebook]

Who would have thought I'd be hoping for Uggla to come back quickly.

Feel so bad for Pastor.

This! Other than a trade, that can be the only reason to have a Gosselin/ Janish platoon. It will actually have fans forgetting the old Uggla's struggles and counting the seconds until the new, Lasiked version returns.

One question, though. Will that sick 2B platoon still have better hitting stats than BJ Upton?? :eusa_dance:

[BremanFan88]

Only thing that makes sense is if a deal is in the books and they didn't want to put LaStella on the 40 man. I suppose another answer is that they want LaStella to finish the AA season and then come up.

Or Fredi is paranoid we will all fall in love with La Stella and forget about his boy Uggla so Janish/Gosselin will make us miss Dan and we'll all be happy when he comes back.

/conspiracy theory.

[gilesfan]

Or they dont believe La Stella is ready.

[thethe]

Or Fredi is paranoid we will all fall in love with La Stella and forget about his boy Uggla so Janish/Gosselin will make us miss Dan and we'll all be happy when he comes back.

/conspiracy theory.

And then have another response in an interview that he succumbed to the fans requests!

[thethe]

Or they dont believe La Stella is ready.

Yeah, this is probably the actual reason.

I hope he gets serious consideration out of ST next year though. Guy has had a very good season.

[bravebonebook]

What's the major league record for most players on the DL in a season? How about most roster players with season-ending injuries in one season? 2013 Braves have to be close to beating that record if they haven't already. Need a frikkin' doctor's office in the clubhouse this year....:mad0182:

[BremanFan88]

Guy has had a very good season.

He's had a good minor league career.

[thethe]

He's had a good minor league career.

Yup don't have to sell me on him at all. I am not one of those who thinks he is only hitting because he is a little old for his level. Guy has a great eye at the plate and doesn't strike out. I also believe that while he will never be a big homerun hitter he will get 40-50 XBH in a season at the major league level. A guy with a slash of 270/350/420 sounds about right to me.

[bravebonebook]

Evan Gattis, second baseman :winking0016:

[wheresmykayak]

As many here have said, it probably has to do with either A) The Braves thinking LaStella simply isn't ready for the show, or B) They want him up in the majors, but they don't want to bring him up, and then send him right back down whenever Uggla or Pastor return, or if there's a trade brewing.

It wouldn't be hard to supply more offense than blind Uggla was giving us, but Janish clearly can't even do that. So I'm hoping for a trade, however implausible it looks right now on the waiver wire.

[Heyward]

Or they dont believe La Stella is ready.

He may not be but is he worse than Janish or Gosselin offensively, I don't think so.

I guess they trade for someone but if they just go with those two, I'm confused by the move.

[Garmel]

Evan Gattis, second baseman :winking0016:

I bet Heyward can't bulldoze him over.:rock:

[Braves1976]

I agree they might not think La Stella is ready, but either way I have to think a trade is coming soon.

[The Chosen One]

If it's a major trade... there's IDK... 29 other teams ahead of us. You'd think one team would claim a 2B before us just to block us.

[Braves1976]

If it's a major trade... there's IDK... 29 other teams ahead of us. You'd think one team would claim a 2B before us just to block us.

It will have to be someone that has basically cleared waivers, maybe someone like Ryan Roberts.

[BlackwaterPark]

You're saying it's great news Pastor may be seriously hurt just so you can see La Stella?

Sorry, I misread. I thought it said it was more like a day to day thing

[Krovahn]

Jason Heyward ‏@JasonHeyward 12m
Hate that for Rev

Yes, I posted a tweet; no, I am not PD/JS.

Hopefully J-Hey doesn't think about what happened to much to the extent where he lets it effect his game...

[Dunit24]

What's the major league record for most players on the DL in a season? How about most roster players with season-ending injuries in one season? 2013 Braves have to be close to beating that record if they haven't already. Need a frikkin' doctor's office in the clubhouse this year....:mad0182:

Yet, opposing fans say we are just lucky this season. I cant believe we stand at 74-47 with the injuries we have had.

[Dunit24]

Im comfortable with Janish at 2B. Braves can still call up La Stella and I believe they will trade for 2B as well. Uggla will be back before the end of the year as well.

Im not worried about it. Just anxious to see who we will trade for.

[Braves1976]

Luis Cruz was DFA'd by the Yankees, he hasn't hit this year but did last year. He's also great defensively, so basically another Janish (though Cruz is better than Janish at third) with more potential with the bat. He'll at least give you great defense a la Janish (and unlike Gosselin he can play shortstop).

[Krovahn]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BR0MzbTCEAAK7cL.jpg

[Braves1976]

David O'Brien ‏@ajcbraves 37m

Gosselin's defense gave edge over La Stella for call. Fredi G wanted someone who could play late-innings D if he pinch hits for Janish, etc

[tvsportscaster]

David O'Brien ‏@ajcbraves 37m

Gosselin's defense gave edge over La Stella for call. Fredi G wanted someone who could play late-innings D if he pinch hits for Janish, etc

That's crap because you could have actually started La Stella and then use Janish as the defensive replacement. I still smell a trade coming.

[Tapate50]

David O'Brien ‏@ajcbraves 37m

Gosselin's defense gave edge over La Stella for call. Fredi G wanted someone who could play late-innings D if he pinch hits for Janish, etc

Damn. IF ? I would have thought anyone brought up would start instead if Janish

[Braves1976]

That's crap because you could have actually started La Stella and then use Janish as the defensive replacement. I still smell a trade coming.

Agreed. Fredi wasn't going to start La Stella anyway. He will go with someone with experience over talent at this point in the season.

[tvsportscaster]

Agreed. Fredi wasn't going to start La Stella anyway. He will go with someone with experience over talent at this point in the season.

I still say that the ultimate reason for not calling up LaStella is that they know it will only be a couple of days because they're close to a trade. They had to know yesterday before it was made public, that Pastornicky's injury was serious, so I would imagine things were put into motion and they just haven't been able to consummate anything yet.

[Braves1976]

I still say that the ultimate reason for not calling up LaStella is that they know it will only be a couple of days because they're close to a trade. They had to know yesterday before it was made public, that Pastornicky's injury was serious, so I would imagine things were put into motion and they just haven't been able to consummate anything yet.

Well, Wren as we know has been looking for a while. I am sure he's trying harder now but with waivers now needed the already thin market is even thinner (names like Ryan Roberts, Elliot Johnson, Luis Cruz, etc). We may have to get someone like Cruz or Roberts and hope they hit better. They have both done better in the past than this year.

[atl717]

This is stupid. We could have used this as an opportunity to see if LaStella is a viable option for next year.

[BremanFan88]

David O'Brien ‏@ajcbraves 37m

Gosselin's defense gave edge over La Stella for call. Fredi G wanted someone who could play late-innings D if he pinch hits for Janish, etc

lul, Fredi...

[Braves1976]

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman

Janish will be the primary 2B until Uggla returns or the #Braves acquire another option. Gosselin could pinch hit for Janish in late innings

[NinersSBChamps]

Worst second basemen in all of baseball in this organization.

[Braves1976]

David O'Brien ‏@ajcbraves 1m

#Braves Wren said they'll look for possible trade for INF, doesn't know if will find "right fit...Short of that, we'll go with what we have"

[rico43]

I still say that the ultimate reason for not calling up LaStella is that they know it will only be a couple of days because they're close to a trade. They had to know yesterday before it was made public, that Pastornicky's injury was serious, so I would imagine things were put into motion and they just haven't been able to consummate anything yet.

This makes the most sense. Gosselin goes back quietly. I'm just worried they have to deal Schafer or one of the almost-there pitchers. Also, are we sure DeWitt isn't close to coming back?

[BremanFan88]

Worst second basemen in all of baseball in this organization.

To be fair we have a good second baseman in the organization. We just refuse to use him...

[Braves1976]

Also, are we sure DeWitt isn't close to coming back?

DOB or Bowman (maybe both) said something about him still having back issues not long ago. It sounded like he won't be back this year.

[gilesfan]

This makes the most sense. Gosselin goes back quietly. I'm just worried they have to deal Schafer or one of the almost-there pitchers. Also, are we sure DeWitt isn't close to coming back?


No one is trading anything worthwhile for Schafer

[AUTiger7222]

Now that I've had some time to think about it I can understand not wanting to start LaStella's arbitration clock with Uggla coming back soon. If Uggla was set to miss the rest of the season then they would have probably brought up LaStella.

[cajunrevenge]

Let me assure you starting La Stella's arbitration clock has nothing to do with this decision. The last thing they are going to do right now is bring in a 2B with questionable defense. If your dont have any good options then you always go with the best defensive option. I would be fine letting Janish start till Uggla gets back, I like having elite defensive middle infielders.

[AUTiger7222]

Let me assure you starting La Stella's arbitration clock has nothing to do with this decision. The last thing they are going to do right now is bring in a 2B with questionable defense. If your dont have any good options then you always go with the best defensive option. I would be fine letting Janish start till Uggla gets back, I like having elite defensive middle infielders.

So LaStella sucks as a fielder?

[Tapate50]

Braves sign Tyler Greene

[tvsportscaster]

Braves sign Tyler Greene

Minor League Deal, Ironically the Braves drafted Tyler in 2002 but he chose to go Ga. Tech instead.