GDT 5/7: Diamondbacks at Braves

[UNCBlue012]

Inciarte is back, playing left and hitting second!

Markakis RF
Inciarte LF
Freeman 1B
AJC C
Brignac 3B
Aybar SS
Castro 2B
Teheran RHP
Mallex CF

It's not pretty, but his return makes the lineup look a bit better. Let's kill it!

[nsacpi]

Expecting a yuge game from Reid Brignac.

[DirkPiggler]

Before getting to Atlanta has Reid Brignac ever batted 5th in his life?

[nsacpi]

Before getting to Atlanta has Reid Brignac ever batted 5th in his life?

Its a good spot for him. Between AJ and Aybar.

[Garmel]

Markakis still batting first with Inciarte back?

[ChapelHillMatt]

This is the day we turn the season around!!!

[Dalyn]

Having our best defensive outfielder in left is interesting. Guess it has something to do with the injury.

[NinersSBChamps]

Get to see Nick the Stick in person!!!

[KB21]

https://twitter.com/BravesReddit/status/727935436505554944

No injury issues there.

[weso1]

Having our best defensive outfielder in left is interesting. Guess it has something to do with the injury.

Are you saying that our two time gold glove winner isn't our best OF?

[The Chosen One]

I'm pretty sure Fredi put Ender in left so he wouldn't have to risk hurting the hammy. In center there's running on every outfield play. If he's in left he only has to focus on his area.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Get to see Nick the Stick in person!!!

You paid for tickets???

[bravesfanforlife88]

You paid for tickets???

The ticket scalpers in the parking lot are paying to give them away actually.

[smootness]

Having our best defensive outfielder in left is interesting. Guess it has something to do with the injury.

It better not last. Now is the time to transition Markakis to left.

[msstate7]

It better not last. Now is the time to transition Markakis to left.

Fredi reasoning...

Mallex faster than inciarte
Markakis is a gold glove RF

[smootness]

Inciarte is a bit of a waste in LF, but it is going to be hilarious to see his defensive metrics if he stays there.

[Dalyn]

Are you saying that our two time gold glove winner isn't our best OF?

He runs and fields like he's using that gold glove out there.

[Julio3000]

Glad to see Ender back, but damn...that 4-5-6 is brutal.

[TomahawkCult]

The ticket scalpers in the parking lot are paying to give them away actually.

There was a $5 for club level seats (the ones in the right field corner) offer for the weekend and Phillies games. I snagged 4 for my crew Sunday. $5 each for decent seats and A/C just a few steps away? Yes, please!

[DirkPiggler]

Inciarte is a bit of a waste in LF, but it is going to be hilarious to see his defensive metrics if he stays there.

With his defense if he stays in left and continues to be a decent hitter he might get Heyward money on his next contract.

[cajunrevenge]

With his defense if he stays in left and continues to be a decent hitter he might get Heyward money on his next contract.


Lolo lol no. Incite will be lucky if he reaches 100 million. As in its only a slightly better chance than Ender has of winning a 100 million lottery.

[UNCBlue012]

I'm going to take a wild guess that Ender is in LF due to the injury. I could be wrong because Fredi, but this sure gives us a decent 1-3.

[msstate7]

Lolo lol no. Incite will be lucky if he reaches 100 million. As in its only a slightly better chance than Ender has of winning a 100 million lottery.

Wonder why jhey is looked at as so much more valuable. Here's a comparison of their first 2 seasons...

Jhey -- 6.4 WAR and 2.5 WAR
Inciarte -- 3.7 WAR and 5.3 WAR

Jhey still hasn't matched his oWAR as a rookie. Both are pretty much valuable bc of defense.

Just noticed that jhey has a WAR of -0.1. Ender is 0.2 so far.

[UNCBlue012]

Wonder why jhey is looked at as so much more valuable. Here's a comparison of their first 2 seasons...

Jhey -- 6.4 WAR and 2.5 WAR
Inciarte -- 3.7 WAR and 5.3 WAR

Jhey still hasn't matched his oWAR as a rookie. Both are pretty much valuable bc of defense.

Just noticed that jhey has a WAR of -0.1. Ender is 0.2 so far.

I said it when we got him, but Inciarte is one of the absolute best outfielders in the game. IF he can learn to take a walk, this guy could prove massive dividends. The Dbacks were idiots.

[UNCBlue012]

DOB: Inciarte will play CF Sunday when #Braves face lefty (Corbin), with Francoeur in LF.

[Braves1976]

@mlbbowman
Inciarte ranked second among all MLB OFs last year with 29 DRS. He had 13 DRS in RF (539 inn), 12 in LF (372 inn) and 4 in CF (152 inn)

[Braves1976]

I said it when we got him, but Inciarte is one of the absolute best outfielders in the game. IF he can learn to take a walk, this guy could prove massive dividends. The Dbacks were idiots.

Inciarte may be the best OF in the game at playing all OF positions almost equally great defensively. It seems most have issues one place or another in the OF or at least you'll see a drop off of some sort, I haven't seen that with him yet.

[Braves1976]

Wonder why jhey is looked at as so much more valuable. Here's a comparison of their first 2 seasons...

Jhey -- 6.4 WAR and 2.5 WAR
Inciarte -- 3.7 WAR and 5.3 WAR

Jhey still hasn't matched his oWAR as a rookie. Both are pretty much valuable bc of defense.

Just noticed that jhey has a WAR of -0.1. Ender is 0.2 so far.

I don't consider Heyward so much more valuable, that's why I said in the past that we basically got another Jason Heyward back on defense in Inciarte. If he starts in RF every day like Heyward their DRS at years end would be quite similar IMO.

[smootness]

Expecting a yuge game from Reid Brignac.

Expecting a huge game from everyone, it's Shelby Miller.

[Braves1976]

Fly ball pitchers will love having Smith and Inciarte in the same outfield.

[UNCBlue012]

Catching AJP against Julio is insane. He was so good last game with flowers.

[USMA76]

Catching AJP against Julio is insane. He was so good last game with flowers.

Not to worry. Flowers is back there.

[UNCBlue012]

1-0 on a freeman homer. Dude is on fire.

[USMA76]

Not to worry. Flowers is back there.

My mistake/wishful thinking. I thought the announcers said Flowers was catching...@#$%

[USMA76]

Why do the AZ pitchers persist in throwing at Aybar? What's the history there?

[Braves1976]

Miller dragged his hand again and looks to hurt it. He is really off and having issues with control.

[Braves1976]

Why do the AZ pitchers persist in throwing at Aybar? What's the history there?

Miller control is just out of whack. Not throwing at him.

[USMA76]

Miller control is just out of whack. Not throwing at him.

I figured that was the case but since Aybar's "tower was buzzed" at least three times last night, it begs the question.

[UNCBlue012]

Wow. Shelby is horrible.

[Braves1976]

Wow. Shelby is horrible.

This isn't same Miller, issues with his hand and control. He keeps being pulled because he'll come out at walk the house by the 4th inning. That isn't like him, if Arizona made him change some things causing this mess they're idiots.

[USMA76]

Great. Give up a hit to Miller to lead off the inning. Need a DP grounder here.

[UNCBlue012]

Julio gives up so many hits to the opposing pitchers haha

[chop2chip]

This isn't same Miller, issues with his hand and control. He keeps being pulled because he'll come out at walk the house by the 4th inning. That isn't like him, if Arizona made him change some things causing this mess they're idiots.
His fastball seems slower than it did last year and FX backs that up. He was 94 mph last year and he's down to 92 mph this year.

Hopefully his arm is okay.

[Braves1976]

His fastball seems slower than it did last year and FX backs that up. He was 94 mph last year and he's down to 92 mph this year.

Hopefully his arm is okay.

His delivery is out of whack too, may be effecting everything including dragging his hand on the mound and hurting it every other game.

[Braves1976]

are you kidding me? LOL can we not the catch the ball at all at key times?

[USMA76]

The suckitude of this team is beyond description. A sure out turns into a run plus a runner on third with one out.

[cajunrevenge]

i miss Andrelton

[Garmel]

Unbelievable

[Braves1976]

The suckitude of this team is beyond description. A sure out turns into a run plus a runner on third with one out.

It's a comedy on rerun. :)

Looks like ump did screen Aybar, but still he has to take the out at third after that.

[UNCBlue012]

I'll always talk about how dumb this team is.

[UNCBlue012]

At the same time, Julio should not be an idiot and give a hit to the pitcher.

[Braves1976]

The Teheran-AJP combo doing rides again after the Teheran-Flowers combo dominated last game.

[bravesfanforlife88]

AJP showing off that cannon of an arm by short hopping the SS

[msstate7]

AJP showing off that cannon of an arm by short hopping the SS

Aj's value isn't throwing runners out. It's managing our young pitchers ;)

[USMA76]

Aj's value isn't throwing runners out. It's managing our young pitchers ;)

Don't ever discount his overwhelming value in terms of gritty, veteran leadership.

[Braves1976]

AJP DP, bringing it on both sides. :)

[USMA76]

AJP DP, bringing it on both sides. :)

Continuing to play AJ is reason enough to fire Fredi Gonzalez...no questions asked.

[USMA76]

Nice...Julio walks a guy who's batting a buck 80 to turn the lineup over.

[Garmel]

The announcers are complaining about Julio not going in enough on hitters like it's all on Julio. Did they notice who's catching?

[UNCBlue012]

My lord Fredi is an idiot. Teheran looks horrible. Play flowers.

[Braves1976]

The announcers are complaining about Julio not going in enough on hitters like it's all on Julio. Did they notice who's catching?

My thoughts exactly, look where AJP is setting up. His game calling is bad, Flowers had Teheran pitching to both sides and up and down a lot more. Shoot everyone that catches Teheran but AJP he has much better numbers, that is telling enough.

[msstate7]

My lord Fredi is an idiot. Teheran looks horrible. Play flowers.

Nah, let Fredi be Fredi... I want a new manager

[Braves1976]

Nah, let Fredi be Fredi... I want a new manager

Fair point, maybe a D'Back series win or sweep gets it done. Bowman speculated already about the off-day monday so we'll see.

[USMA76]

My lord Fredi is an idiot.

Water is wet.

[Garmel]

My thoughts exactly, look where AJP is setting up. His game calling is bad, Flowers had Teheran pitching to both sides and up and down a lot more. Shoot everyone that catches Teheran but AJP he has much better numbers, that is telling enough.

I wonder what the staff's ERA is when Flowers is behind the plate and when AJ is there. Just curious.

[msstate7]

I wonder what the staff's ERA is when Flowers is behind the plate and when AJ is there. Just curious.

Doesn't matter... Aj had an OPS of .533 before tonight's 0-2. That kind of offense makes up for aj's defense

[Braves1976]

I wonder what the staff's ERA is when Flowers is behind the plate and when AJ is there. Just curious.

I don't think either is good but I think part of that has been a smaller sample for Flowers and not catching the better starters regularly. Remember before we added Blair our staff was really struggling, though Wisler and Teheran have come on since. Has Flowers even caught Teheran more than once so far?

[Garmel]

Has Flowers even caught Teheran more than once so far?

No idea.

[Braves1976]

Doesn't matter... Aj had an OPS of .533 before tonight's 0-2. That kind of offense makes up for aj's defense

Whoever hits starts more said Fredi, lol.

[WaitingFor2017]

Flowers has only caught Teheran once -- a start in which Teheran shut down the best offense in the game. Yet Fredi goes back to his golden boy tonight.

[USMA76]

mini-D'Arnaud leads off the bottom of the fifth with a clean hit.

[Braves1976]

Flowers has only caught Teheran once -- a start in which Teheran shut down the best offense in the game. Yet Fredi goes back to his golden boy tonight.

I thought so, just asking in case I had forgot a start. I know Fredi has basically paired AJP with Teheran despite it not working and his numbers being terrible with him in a bunch of games while better throwing to everyone else.

[WaitingFor2017]

101 pitches in 5 innings. You'd think that would be Shelby Miller's stat tonight. Was Julio off tonight, or can we continue blaming AJ?

[USMA76]

101 pitches in 5 innings. You'd think that would be Shelby Miller's stat tonight. Was Julio off tonight, or can we continue blaming AJ?

Julio's pitch count was a result of his own lack of command more than anything AJ did or didn't do.

[Braves1976]

Ahmed showed us what real range at short looks like, a Simmons like play.

[thewupk]

Norris in? That's a loss.

[msstate7]

Ahmed showed us what real range at short looks like, a Simmons like play.

The throw was more impressive to me. He wasn't set at all and threw it perfect. Nice play

[Runnin]

Lead off walks rarely hurt us.

[msstate7]

It's time to keep up with game on at bat app and tune in when mallex, inciarte, and FF bat only

[cajunrevenge]

i miss Andrelton.

[Braves1976]

This Bud is for you D'Backs, why is I know before hand any play at the plate with AJP the runner will be safe no matter what? :)

[UNCBlue012]

I literally can't believe how awful this team is. I'm just not used to have an Atlanta team this horrible.

[Runnin]

Simmons has him out by two steps.

[Braves1976]

The throw was more impressive to me. He wasn't set at all and threw it perfect. Nice play

Ahmed has a strong arm, it helps his range too allowing him to play deeper. Simmons can do that also and is even better than Ahmed at it.

[Braves1976]

Simmons has him out by two steps.

Just so long as AJP doesn't drop Simmons bullet to the plate. He's did that a ton so far.

[msstate7]

This is sickening. I always watch 150+ games a year, but this year will be hard

[CrimsonCowboy]

Bartolo Colon apparently just hit a home run.

Back to our regularly scheduled bad news Braves.

[WaitingFor2017]

Bartolo Colon apparently just hit a home run.

Back to our regularly scheduled bad news Braves.

In a tough park to hit one in San Diego against a solid pitcher in James Shields.

[thewupk]

Bartolo Colon apparently just hit a home run.

Back to our regularly scheduled bad news Braves.

That would be tied for 3rd on the Braves?

[WaitingFor2017]

I'm really digging the Diamondback uniforms this year.

[Braves1976]

Miller hasn't looked good, but Braves have been just what the doctor ordered for him tonight.

[UNCBlue012]

Shelby has looked horrible and has solid stats tonight. That tells you how bad this team is.

[UNCBlue012]

Cervenka has been such a pleasant surprise though.

[Braves1976]

No one can touch Hunter.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Here's a little salt in the wounds for everyone

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[UNCBlue012]

I really wonder if the guys are just overdoing it. Like, we have NO power. I get not having much power, but little-to-none isn't really that normal.

[thewupk]

Here's a little salt in the wounds for everyone

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[WaitingFor2017]

Cervenka should be the all-star representative of the Braves at the current moment.

[msstate7]

Cervenka should be the all-star representative of the Braves at the current moment.

Viz has been pretty good

[UNCBlue012]

Viz has been pretty good Both should be as of right now!

[Braves1976]

If Freeman reaches our clean-up hitter AJP is on deck!

[msstate7]

If Freeman reaches our clean-up hitter AJP is on deck!

At least we'll clear the AJ spot

[Braves1976]

At least we'll clear the AJ spot

Haha, if not for two outs that ball is another DP too.

[Braves1976]

Cheap balk call there, might lead to a run.

[Braves1976]

If that's on target that's an out, catcher running he had time. Aybar's arm sucks.

[msstate7]

2 runs behind and only 3 outs to play with... Insurmountable lead. See you guys tomorrow

[Runnin]

How many steps did Aybar take after catching that deep in the whole??? No need to hurry.

[thewupk]

2 runs behind and only 3 outs to play with... Insurmountable lead. See you guys tomorrow

so your saying theres a chance

[TXBravesFan]

With Brignac/Aybar/Castro due in the 9th I'm pretty sure the deficit was already insurmountable.

Now that it's 2 runs though, it's generous to even call this a save situation.

[Braves1976]

Viz gave up a run but again that is on Aybar, Chip is an idiot acting like Viz is at fault. He made the pitch to get out of it, a good shortstop makes that play. Slow catcher, just have to be on line to first and he wasn't and weak throw. Castro gets that out easy.

[thewupk]

a good feeling about this?.....what team has he been watching this year

[CrimsonCowboy]

Why have I been watching this instead of the NASCAR race?

[WaitingFor2017]

Maybe a sweep tomorrow means we sweep Fredi out the door on Monday's off day

[thewupk]

Maybe a sweep tomorrow means we sweep Fredi out the door on Monday's off day

one can only hope

[UNCBlue012]

Fredi has to be gone. He just to be. I cannot believe how bad this team is.

[TXBravesFan]

So, will Fredi be peeling the #1 off the fence tomorrow?

[Garmel]

Why have I been watching this instead of the NASCAR race?

Like the rest of us you're a glutton for punishment?

[Runnin]

Fredi has to be gone. He just to be. I cannot believe how bad this team is.
Fredi is by now probably praying he'll be fired. He's being used like a scrub reliever pitching long relief in a blowout.

[NinersSBChamps]

You paid for tickets???

Yes sir.

[striker42]

Aybar is failing in every phase of the game. When do we pull the plug?

[thewupk]

Aybar is failing in every phase of the game. When do we pull the plug?

The whole team seems to be in a vegetative state

[Braves1976]

Aybar is failing in every phase of the game. When do we pull the plug?

Wasn't it him that made the high throw to the plate after Inciarte strong relay? If so that's two outs Castro likely makes assuming AJP does his job catching and tagging the runner. Not a given either.

[Braves1976]

The whole team seems to be in a vegetative state

Just like their manager eh?

[EstebanBugatti]

Just like their manager eh?

Fredi is already 6 feet under.

[bravesnumberone]

If they lose today, there's no way you can't fire Fredi. Dude know he's gone. Just do the decent thing and end it already.

[msstate7]

If they lose today, there's no way you can't fire Fredi. Dude know he's gone. Just do the decent thing and end it already.

If it's time, it's time... A win today shouldn't save him

[bravesnumberone]

If it's time, it's time... A win today shouldn't save him

No but it's better to fire someone after a loss. It was time two years ago.