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rico43
05-22-2016, 09:51 AM
SUNDAY MINOR LEAGUE RESULTS

CLASS AAA

Charlotte 9, Gwinnett 8 (11)

SP: Texeira 4 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K
De La Cruz 2.1 IP, 5 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, HR
Peterson (BS) 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 2 K
LP: Cunniff (2-2) 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 0 K

Kazmar 2-6, 2B, 3B, 2 R, RBI
Garcia 2-4, 2B, R, RBI
Albies 1-1, 2B, R
Ruiz 1-4, 3 RBI (.258)
Snyder 3-5, 2B, R, RBI, SB

CLASS AA

Mississippi 3, Mobile 2 (16)

SP: Whalen 7 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K
Janas 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
Cabrera (BS) 0.1 IP, 0 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 1 K
Younginer 0.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K
Roney 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
Kent 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K
WP: Burawa (2-0) 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K

Astudillo 2-7 (3-3 CS!)
Lipka 2-6, 2B, R, BB, SB
Swanson 2-7, 2 RBI, SB
D.Peterson 2-6, 2B, BB
Rojas Jr. 2-6, HR (1st), RBI, 3 K

ADVANCED CLASS A

Game One
Carolina 5, Wilmington 1 (7)

WP: Povse (3-2) 5 IP, 5 H, 0 ER(1R), 0 BB, 6 K
Minter 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K

Edgerton 1-3, R, BB
Meneses 1-4, RBI
Davidson 1-2, R, 2 BB

Game Two
Wilmington 6, Carolina 4 (7)

LP: Clark (0-4) 5 IP, 9 H, 6 ER, 3 BB, 3 K
Quintana 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K

Curcio 1-2, 2B, R, BB
Harper 1-3, R, 2 RBI, SF
Odom 2-4, 2B, R
Edgerton 1-3

CLASS A

Augusta 7, Rome 4

LP: Banuelos (0-1) 2 IP, 5 H, 3 ER(5R), 2 BB, 4 K
Soroka 6.2 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
Matos 0.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K

Dykstra 2-5, R (.313)
Riley 2-4, 2B, 2 R
Nevarez 2-4, RBI

msstate7
05-22-2016, 09:53 AM
Is our minor league record as a whole a concern? Seems we should be winning more games if we truly have great talent

rico43
05-22-2016, 12:12 PM
Is our minor league record as a whole a concern? Seems we should be winning more games if we truly have great talent

It's all relative. Gwinnett is actually tied for first place in its division.
But it is safe to say, after tracking these first six weeks, that a shortage of late-inning relievers or closers has killed them. Cabrera has four blown saves all by himself. Also worth noting that Carolina has got no offense with Swanson gone; shut out in a doubleheader earlier this week.

rico43
05-22-2016, 12:14 PM
It's all relative. Gwinnett is actually tied for first place in its division.
But it is safe to say, after tracking these first six weeks, that a shortage of late-inning relievers or closers has killed them. Cabrera has four blown saves all by himself. Also worth noting that Carolina has got no offense with Swanson gone; shut out in a doubleheader earlier this week.

The number to look up (and I would if I could find it) are the large number of quality starts system-wide.

dak
05-22-2016, 12:26 PM
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nsacpi
05-22-2016, 12:27 PM
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Good to hear. At this point I'm ready to give up on him as a potential ML starting pitcher. But he could still have value in a relief role.

smootness
05-22-2016, 12:56 PM
Is our minor league record as a whole a concern? Seems we should be winning more games if we truly have great talent

Nah. We knew we didn't have a lot of bats in the minors, and the team I think has the most overall talent (Rome) is extremely young for A-ball as a whole.

rico43
05-22-2016, 01:31 PM
Carolina has one of its biggest innings since Swanson left. How did they score four runs? two errors by 3B Wander Franco (love that name), two wild pitches, a bunt single that started it all, a hit batsman, a sacrifice fly and, oh yeah, an RBI single by Meneses.

rico43
05-22-2016, 01:34 PM
Banuelos: four hits, two walks in 1.1 innings (but four strikeouts!)

Nerfherders
05-22-2016, 01:41 PM
Is our minor league record as a whole a concern? Seems we should be winning more games if we truly have great talent

Yes, what I've noticed just looking at these threads every day is that the bullpens, especially for Gwinnett and Miss., have been beyond awful. I often see the starter do something like 6IP, 2R, and the team loses 7-4. Stuff like that.

jpx7
05-22-2016, 01:42 PM
Carolina has one of its biggest innings since Swanson left. How did they score four runs? two errors by 3B Wander Franco (love that name), two wild pitches, a bunt single that started it all, a hit batsman, a sacrifice fly and, oh yeah, an RBI single by Meneses.

Nice to see Povse continue his really good start, as well.

I know he's a little on the older side for High-A, but he's huge and the K/BB is quite nice (especially considering the control issues exhibited by some of our other top starting prospects). Anyone who's actually seen him pitch care to elaborate his likely potential/possible ceiling?

devilsbballfan
05-22-2016, 03:00 PM
Soroka's numbers are just getting ridiculous in Rome. So far today following Banuelos he's gone 6 IP 3 H 0 R 1 BB 5 Ks.

For the season he has as many Ks (46) as hits + walks (37 + 9) in 48.2 innings.

skillet
05-22-2016, 03:23 PM
We have a couple of jewels in Dansby and Oz, but beyond those two, we are almost completely devoid of positional prospect talent. Hard to believe for a top 5 farm system. It is almost all pitching.

mqt
05-22-2016, 03:29 PM
We have few impact bats and a vast majority of our pitching talent is starting right now. The depth we have in our minor league rotations is unparalleled and they won't all be starting in Atlanta, so I think we're fine with pitching. Some of those starters will become relievers, which should mitigate that lack of depth in our bullpens currently.

If we can supplement that pitching talent with some impact bats through IFA, the next couple drafts and trades, I think we'll be where we want to be.

Nerfherders
05-22-2016, 03:35 PM
It's not a terrible thing to have a surplus of pitching. That means many organizations have a dearth of pitching and we can trade some of those guys for bats.

nsacpi
05-22-2016, 03:36 PM
We have a couple of jewels in Dansby and Oz, but beyond those two, we are almost completely devoid of positional prospect talent. Hard to believe for a top 5 farm system. It is almost all pitching.

Acuna is a very good talent, likely to rise fast in the prospect lists.

After that I think we have a large group of good but not elite position prospects. In rough order of how I rank them: Yepez, Ruiz, Riley, Peterson, Isranel Wilson, Dyskra, Herbert, Davidson. Right now I would not project any one of them individually as an average to above average ML regular. Rather they profile as platoon or bench players. But given we have eight of them, I feel comfortable predicting one of them will make it as a regular. Just don't know which one at this point.

So I would predict that four regulars will emerge from the current group in the minors. Albies, Swanson, Acuna and one more.

We also have a third group out of which some useful bench players will emerge: Camargo, Lien, Ventura, Valenzuela, Salazar, Obregon, Jonathan Morales, Didder.

Finally, there are the international signings who have not played yet: Derian Cruz, Christian Pache, Juan Morales from last year; Maitan, Guttierez and others from this year.

I think there is a lot of positional talent. It is true that much of it is far from the majors. But in terms of overall positional talent, it is a strong group.

skillet
05-22-2016, 03:46 PM
Acuna is a very good talent, likely to rise fast in the prospect lists.

After that I think we have a large group of good but not elite position prospects. In rough order of how I rank them: Yepez, Ruiz, Riley, Peterson, Isranel Wilson, Dyskra, Herbert, Davidson. Right now I would not project any one of them individually as an average to above average ML regular. Rather they profile as platoon or bench players. But given we have eight of them, I feel comfortable predicting one of them will make it as a regular. Just don't know which one at this point.

So I would predict that four regulars will emerge from the current group in the minors. Albies, Swanson, Acuna and one more.

We also have a third group out of which some useful bench players will emerge: Camargo, Lien, Ventura, Valenzuela, Salazar, Obregon, Morales, Didder.

Finally, there are the international signings who have not played yet: Derian Cruz, Christian Pache, Juan Morales from last year; Maitan, Guttierez and others from this year.

I think there is a lot of positional talent. It is true that much of it is far from the majors. But in terms of overall positional talent, it is a strong group.

We will have to agree to disagree. You named off a bunch of guys, all of which their ceiling is a bench guy. Unless you consider Dansby and Oz to be enough to say our positional prospect talent is strong, it isn't .

nsacpi
05-22-2016, 03:47 PM
It's not a terrible thing to have a surplus of pitching. That means many organizations have a dearth of pitching and we can trade some of those guys for bats.

Attrition is significantly higher for pitching than position prospects. I'm not so sure the yield from the pitching group will be superior in terms of filling major league needs.

nsacpi
05-22-2016, 03:48 PM
We will have to agree to disagree. You named off a bunch of guys, all of which their ceiling is a bench guy. Unless you consider Dansby and Oz to be enough to say our positional prospect talent is strong, it isn't .

I think Albies and Swanson are now Top 20 prospects. We'll get a better idea when BA releases their mid-season Top 50. Acuna will find his way onto some Top 100 lists by the end of the year.

skillet
05-22-2016, 04:04 PM
While I am intrigued by Acuna, there is no way he will be in the top 100 mid season. Now if he he can continue to hit at Rome with a bit more power for the entire year, then maybe by this time next year he could crack the top 100.

Hudson2
05-22-2016, 05:25 PM
With a lot of prospects graduating off the list I could see Acuna making it barely.

skillet
05-22-2016, 07:40 PM
Is our minor league record as a whole a concern? Seems we should be winning more games if we truly have great talent

Our combined minor league record across the four levels is 74-100. All four teams are below .500. Does seem odd to be that poor having such a highly rated farm system.

smootness
05-22-2016, 08:13 PM
While I am intrigued by Acuna, there is no way he will be in the top 100 mid season. Now if he he can continue to hit at Rome with a bit more power for the entire year, then maybe by this time next year he could crack the top 100.

His lack of XBH is a knock, but people really liked him coming into this year, and he hasn't done anything to prove them wrong. I think some were just waiting to see if he could handle full season ball, and he is.

Tapate50
05-22-2016, 09:57 PM
Minter still killing it... 2ip also.

Braves1976
05-22-2016, 09:59 PM
Rico "Astudillo 2-7 (3-3 CS!)"

Nice game!

50PoundHead
05-22-2016, 10:16 PM
Acuna is a very good talent, likely to rise fast in the prospect lists.

After that I think we have a large group of good but not elite position prospects. In rough order of how I rank them: Yepez, Ruiz, Riley, Peterson, Isranel Wilson, Dyskra, Herbert, Davidson. Right now I would not project any one of them individually as an average to above average ML regular. Rather they profile as platoon or bench players. But given we have eight of them, I feel comfortable predicting one of them will make it as a regular. Just don't know which one at this point.

So I would predict that four regulars will emerge from the current group in the minors. Albies, Swanson, Acuna and one more.

We also have a third group out of which some useful bench players will emerge: Camargo, Lien, Ventura, Valenzuela, Salazar, Obregon, Jonathan Morales, Didder.

Finally, there are the international signings who have not played yet: Derian Cruz, Christian Pache, Juan Morales from last year; Maitan, Guttierez and others from this year.

I think there is a lot of positional talent. It is true that much of it is far from the majors. But in terms of overall positional talent, it is a strong group.

I tend to agree with you. Albies and Swanson are top-notch, but I think a number of our second-tier guys have a chance. I would put Acuna as a high second-tier guy who borders on the top tier.

I am optimistic about: Ruiz, Dustin Peterson, Yepez, and Herbert

I am pessimistic about: Davidson.

I think the other guys you list could go either way. Too early to tell on Wilson, but if he rips early in Danville, he could easily be in Rome for the last month of the season. I'm really torn on Riley. His pluses are very strong, but so are his minuses.

Of the third group, I find Didder and Camargo the most intriguing. I believe Camargo will play in the big leagues. I'm not so sure on Didder, but I wish they would keep giving him some time in the IF.

I think it's important to remember that Ruiz, Dustin Peterson, and Davidson are all being pushed aggressively. A strong case can be made that they should have repeated their 2015 level, but the Braves thought otherwise. Dustin Peterson is holding up pretty well and Ruiz has slumped after a strong start. Davidson has his moments. Can't figure out the widespread pessimism.