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rico43
08-09-2016, 01:23 AM
TUESDAY MINOR LEAGUE RESULTS

CLASS AAA

Norfolk 2, Gwinnett 1

LP: Texeira (1-7) 5 IP, 8 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 0 K
Weber 3 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

Ruiz 1-4, 2B, R
Rojas 1-4, RBI
Lalli 2-3

CLASS AA

Mobile @ Mississippi, canceled no makeup

ADVANCED CLASS A

Carolina 0, Winston-Salem 0 (1st, suspended)

CLASS A

Rome 4, Charleston 0

WP: Weigel (9-4) 6 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 7 K (2.66)
Clouse 1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K
Graham 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K

Didder 3-5, R
Riley 0-4, R, BB, 4 K
Neslony 2-5, R, 2 K
Castro 2-3, R
Josephina 2-4, 2B

SHORT-SEASON

Game One
GCL Braves 4, GCL Tigers 0 (7)

SP: Muller 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 K
Fiegl 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
WP: Taveras (2-2) 3 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K

Concepcion 1-3, 2 RBI
Shumpert 1-1, 2B, R, RBI
Aquino 2-3, 2 2B, R
Godfrey 1-3 (rehab)
Ventura 1-3, R, RBI

Game Two
GCL Tigers 1, GCL Braves 0 (7)

LP: Danciu (2-1) 2.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 K
Suarez 2.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
Greene 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K

Contreras 2-3, 2B
Godfrey 1-3, 2B
Michel 2-3

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DSL Cardinals 6, DSL Braves 0

LP: K. Rodriguez (3-2) 3.1 IP, 8 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 2 K

Vasquez 2-4
Lora 2-3
Centeno 1-3
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Elizabethton 6, Danville 3

LP: Martinez (3-4) 6 IP, 5 H, 1 ER(4R), 0 BB, 2 K
Walker 2 IP, 2 H, 0 ER(2R), 0 BB, 2 K

Wilson 2-4, 3B, R, RBI
Mooney 2-5, RBI
Cumberland 2-3, 2B
Osuna 1-2, R, RBI, 2 BB

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IslandBrave
08-09-2016, 09:57 AM
Muller 3IP 1H 6K.

bravesfanMatt
08-09-2016, 09:59 AM
Muller 3IP 1H 6K.

but does he throw hard? that is most important!!

Tapate50
08-09-2016, 10:03 AM
Muller 3IP 1H 6K.

Yowzer

50PoundHead
08-09-2016, 10:08 AM
Hard to complain about any of the performance of the high school pitchers we drafted early. Sterling stats.

mqt
08-09-2016, 10:54 AM
Methinks it might be time for Muller to join Anderson and Wentz in Danville.

dak
08-09-2016, 11:51 AM
Rio Ruiz is sitting at 116 wRC+ as a 22 year old in AAA. There are only 3 players his age or younger hitting better in the International League . . .

Nick Williams in the PHI org has a wRC+ of 118. He's #40 on BA's midseason top 100 list.
Jesse Winker in the CIN org has a wRC+ of 121. He's #68 on BA's midseason top 100 list.
Jorge Polanco in the MIN org has a wRC+ of 126. He's #97 on BA's midseason top 100 list.

zbhargrove
08-09-2016, 11:55 AM
Rio Ruiz is sitting at 116 wRC+ as a 22 year old in AAA. There are only 3 players his age or younger hitting better in the International League . . .

Nick Williams in the PHI org has a wRC+ of 118. He's #40 on BA's midseason top 100 list.
Jesse Winker in the CIN org has a wRC+ of 121. He's #68 on BA's midseason top 100 list.
Jorge Polanco in the MIN org has a wRC+ of 126. He's #97 on BA's midseason top 100 list.

Wow certainly much more impressive looking at wRC+

nsacpi
08-09-2016, 11:56 AM
Rio Ruiz is sitting at 116 wRC+ as a 22 year old in AAA. There are only 3 players his age or younger hitting better in the International League . . .

Nick Williams in the PHI org has a wRC+ of 118. He's #40 on BA's midseason top 100 list.
Jesse Winker in the CIN org has a wRC+ of 121. He's #68 on BA's midseason top 100 list.
Jorge Polanco in the MIN org has a wRC+ of 126. He's #97 on BA's midseason top 100 list.
It has been interesting to see Peterson get so much attention and Ruiz so little the year. Imo it is a close call as to which one is the better prospect.

bravesfanMatt
08-09-2016, 12:01 PM
It has been interesting to see Peterson get so much attention and Ruiz so little the year. Imo it is a close call as to which one is the better prospect.

I don't have stats to back this up, but from what I am remembering.. D Pete has been more consistent all year, where Rio has been very streaky... I would lean towards Peterson.. That said, Dustin has had a much better team around him all year.. makes Rio's accomplishments a bit more interesting..

dak
08-09-2016, 12:01 PM
It has been interesting to see Peterson get so much attention and Ruiz so little the year. Imo it is a close call as to which one is the better prospect.

Yeah, it's important to note that Ruiz plays a more demanding defensive position as well. Wish there was more info on his defensive abilities, but no news is typically good news when it comes to that, I guess.

dak
08-09-2016, 12:04 PM
I don't have stats to back this up, but from what I am remembering.. D Pete has been more consistent all year, where Rio has been very streaky... I would lean towards Peterson.. That said, Dustin has had a much better team around him all year.. makes Rio's accomplishments a bit more interesting..

He's definitely been streaky . . . this year and last. When he graduates to the big leagues, I think it will be best to do so in a part-time or platoon role so that we have another solid 3B to plug in if / when it hits a big-time slump.

50PoundHead
08-09-2016, 12:19 PM
It has been interesting to see Peterson get so much attention and Ruiz so little the year. Imo it is a close call as to which one is the better prospect.

I agree. Both have done really well. Young for their leagues and surviving through some speed bumps.

praeceps93
08-09-2016, 01:54 PM
Yeah, it's important to note that Ruiz plays a more demanding defensive position as well. Wish there was more info on his defensive abilities, but no news is typically good news when it comes to that, I guess.

I've seen him in person and IMO he passes the eye test. Solid range, soft hands, arm plays well enough to stick. Doubt he'll ever be a Gold Glove guy, but he's solid defensively.

smootness
08-09-2016, 01:57 PM
Our HS pitchers almost literally could not be pitching better in the GCL. Muller and Wilson should both be promoted with the others.

zbhargrove
08-09-2016, 02:16 PM
At their ages for the their levels... Peterson and Ruiz should have a major bump in prospect rankings next year... but I doubt they will simply because they just don't have the hype around them.

zbhargrove
08-09-2016, 02:17 PM
Our HS pitchers almost literally could not be pitching better in the GCL. Muller and Wilson should both be promoted with the others.

Yup... we couldn't be asking for more when all 4 will likely at least end up in Rome as some point next year.

KB21
08-09-2016, 02:32 PM
Yup... we couldn't be asking for more when all 4 will likely at least end up in Rome as some point next year.

How is this for pitching staffs at successive levels?

Carolina: Kolby Allard, Max Fried, Touki Toussaint, Patrick Weigel, and Ricardo Sanchez
Rome: Ian Anderson, Joey Wentz, Kyle Muller, Bryce Wilson, and Jaret Hellinger/Luis Gamez

I think at some point, you will see Fried and Weigel in Mississippi.

zbhargrove
08-09-2016, 02:34 PM
How is this for pitching staffs at successive levels?

Carolina: Kolby Allard, Max Fried, Touki Toussaint, Patrick Weigel, and Ricardo Sanchez
Rome: Ian Anderson, Joey Wentz, Kyle Muller, Bryce Wilson, and Jaret Hellinger/Luis Gamez

I think at some point, you will see Fried and Weigel in Mississippi.

At their ages... Weigel and Fried should be promoted aggressively if they keep having success next year. Although I think Sanchez pitches the whole year at Rome again... he's had a rough go of it with a few bright spots mixed in.

nsacpi
08-09-2016, 02:38 PM
How is this for pitching staffs at successive levels?

Carolina: Kolby Allard, Max Fried, Touki Toussaint, Patrick Weigel, and Ricardo Sanchez
Rome: Ian Anderson, Joey Wentz, Kyle Muller, Bryce Wilson, and Jaret Hellinger/Luis Gamez

I think at some point, you will see Fried and Weigel in Mississippi.

ahem....Soroka

KB21
08-09-2016, 02:44 PM
ahem....Soroka

Pfft. He's going to Atlanta. LOL! I can't believe I forgot him. It's a slow day at the clinic though. I've almost fallen asleep twice in my office since lunch.

Tapate50
08-09-2016, 02:46 PM
If someone forgets Mr. Corbin Clouse again I'm gonna lose it ya hear?

yeezus
08-09-2016, 02:48 PM
If someone forgets Mr. Corbin Clouse again I'm gonna lose it ya hear?

Everyone always forgetting Santa's younger brother

rico43
08-09-2016, 02:58 PM
ahem....Soroka

When I read that post, I literally knew this was coming!

rico43
08-09-2016, 02:59 PM
If someone forgets Mr. Corbin Clouse again I'm gonna lose it ya hear?

Check "Breakout Prospects" posting below!

Enscheff
08-09-2016, 03:25 PM
Rio Ruiz is sitting at 116 wRC+ as a 22 year old in AAA. There are only 3 players his age or younger hitting better in the International League . . .

Nick Williams in the PHI org has a wRC+ of 118. He's #40 on BA's midseason top 100 list.
Jesse Winker in the CIN org has a wRC+ of 121. He's #68 on BA's midseason top 100 list.
Jorge Polanco in the MIN org has a wRC+ of 126. He's #97 on BA's midseason top 100 list.

I'm starting to come around a little on DPete. I just read something that strongly suggests doubles at the AA level is a strong overall indicator of future MLB success. If the Braves can get another impact bat in RF by the time he is ready for the show, it might be plausible that and OF of DPete, Inciarte or Mallex, and some impact hitter in RF could be good enough to be competitive. But ONLY if the money saved by having DPete in LF is used to lock in an elite player somewhere else.

msstate7
08-09-2016, 08:11 PM
Am I reading this right? Did anfernee Seymour commit his 34th error tonight?

msstate7
08-09-2016, 08:20 PM
Weigel...
6.0 ip 2 h 0 er 2 bb 7 k
Season era now at 2.66

Southcack77
08-09-2016, 08:28 PM
Yeah, it's important to note that Ruiz plays a more demanding defensive position as well. Wish there was more info on his defensive abilities, but no news is typically good news when it comes to that, I guess.

at a higher level...

But I guess I am team Peterson all things considered.

auyushu
08-09-2016, 08:47 PM
at a higher level...

But I guess I am team Peterson all things considered.

I think it's easy to see why people would think more highly of Dustin, he's putting up much better numbers overall with his better power.

And I think people using wRC+ for minor league numbers are kinda stretching things a bit there, particularly for AAA. Most of the best hitter prospects in the minors right now are either in AA or below or have barely touched AAA and jumped straight to the majors. Ruiz isn't exactly getting compared to the best of the best when using wRC+ with AAA. Ruiz still has quite a bit of potential if he could ever translate his full power potential into games, but I think that chance is slim. He could still be an average major league 3B without it though.

If Peterson can transform some of those doubles into HRs as he moves up from AA to the majors he could be something very interesting though.

KB21
08-09-2016, 10:19 PM
I think the Braves could certainly justify skipping Weigel over Carolina and starting him at Mississippi to start 2017. I'd like to see Patrick Weigel, Max Povse, and Matt Withrow in the rotation at Pearl with Max Fried making a quick jump to AA if he starts out well in High A.

auyushu
08-09-2016, 10:44 PM
I think the Braves could certainly justify skipping Weigel over Carolina and starting him at Mississippi to start 2017.

He should really be getting the bump up to Carolina at this point. Given he's already 22 I'm surprised they haven't bumped him up a while back. If they bumped him up for the last month or so he could easily start at AA.

mqt
08-09-2016, 10:46 PM
Am I reading this right? Did anfernee Seymour commit his 34th error tonight?

That is correct. I'm pretty sure he's still learning SS, though.

mqt
08-09-2016, 10:47 PM
He should really be getting the bump up to Carolina at this point. Given he's already 22 I'm surprised they haven't bumped him up a while back. If they bumped him up for the last month or so he could easily start at AA.


Agreed. I really don't see what he has left to prove in Rome. Push him to Carolina and see how he responds the rest of the season.