GDT 8/30/13: Marlins (Fernandez) @ Braves (Teheran) 7:30

[NYCBrave]

Braves:

1. Jordan Schafer (L) RF
2. Elliot Johnson (S) LF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Chris Johnson (R) 3B
5. Brian McCann (L) C
6. Dan Uggla (R) 2B
7. B.J. Upton (R) CF
8. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
9. Julio Teheran (R) P

Marlins:

1. Christian Yelich (L) LF
2. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
3. Giancarlo Stanton (R) RF
4. Justin Ruggiano (R) CF
5. Logan Morrison (L) 1B
6. Placido Polanco (R) 3B
7. Adeiny Hechavarria (R) SS
8. Jeff Mathis (R) C
9. Jose Fernandez (R) P

[NYCBrave]

Can someone explain how Elliot Johnson is getting starts over Terdo and Gattis????

[nsacpi]

Elliot Johnson. Fredi's new love. Aye.

[Braves82]

Can someone explain how Elliot Johnson is getting starts over Terdo and Gattis????

Because Gattis sucks right now and Terdo is still a rook and Elliot is playing with the hot hand. This should explain it all.

[AerchAngel]

Can someone explain how Elliot Johnson is getting starts over Terdo and Gattis????

You milk it until it turns into a pumpkin.

[PawPawMaxwell]

With the offense in a slump of sorts, Im guessing it is a speed thing. Try to manufacture runs.

[NYCBrave]

Because Gattis sucks right now and Terdo is still a rook and Elliot is playing with the hot hand. This should explain it all.

Hot hand??? He's 5 for 20 since joining the Braves, he's not exactly tearing it up. Way more upside with Terdo or Gattis.

[bravesnumberone]

We're facing who should be ROY. Ain't gonna matter.

[jpx7]

Can someone explain how Elliot Johnson is getting starts over Terdo and Gattis????

:fredi:

[benchguy]

when was the last time Gattis was a factor...????? the Terd hasn't been tearing it up either...don't see where the upside u r talking about is coming from..


Hot hand??? He's 5 for 20 since joining the Braves, he's not exactly tearing it up. Way more upside with Terdo or Gattis.

[Gary82]

You milk it until it turns into a pumpkin.

What a turn of phrase.

[jsebe10]

Runs will be at a premium tonight anyway so it really doesn't matter. This kid is the real deal folks...I'm going tonight and I am looking fwd to seeing him pitch.

[NYCBrave]

when was the last time Gattis was a factor...????? the Terd hasn't been tearing it up either...don't see where the upside u r talking about is coming from..

We're talking about Elliot Johnson, a bench player who was dropped from a playoff contender and had a .458 OPS for the year over in KC!!! Since coming over to Atlanta, he's got a sparkling .600 OPS. We're talking Janish bad here. Any option is better.

[stpeteirish]

With the offense in a slump of sorts, Im guessing it is a speed thing. Try to manufacture runs.

Yeah, that's gotta be it. Probably going to play small ball with Schafer and Elliot. Nobody's mentioned defense and I didn't think Elliot was and OF, period. But he's fast so maybe he's better defensively than I realize.

[Enscheff]

Only explanation I can think of is that Fredi is trying to get a good look at EJ to see if he wants to have him on the postseason roster.

[Orphan Black]

Looking forward to the pitching matchup. Should be a low scoring game.

[nsacpi]

Only explanation I can think of is that Fredi is trying to get a good look at EJ to see if he wants to have him on the postseason roster.

I would think EJ will be on and Janish not. I'd be surprised if we carry both. But we will need one of them to back up Simmons.

[stpeteirish]

We're facing who should be ROY. Ain't gonna matter.

No sense even playing this one. Only for the minor detail that we're 47-18 at home and they're 20-44 on the road.

[Julio3000]

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff511/poinsett/fredi_miccopy_zps9c08b153.jpg

[Julio3000]

What a turn of phrase.

You gotta milk the udder while the iron is hot, at least until it turns into a pumpkin.

Then, you should probably call a vet.

[Heyward]

Can someone explain how Elliot Johnson is getting starts over Terdo and Gattis????

A better question is why would you want Gattis starting?

He's been awful, worse than BJ since June but we should start him?

Not like it matters, not like we will do much vs Fernandez anyway.

Would of preferred Terdo but not a huge deal.

[Hulavol]

I think all of you guys are nuts. I think we will get to Fernandez.

[benchguy]

last I looked so were the two u mentioned..


We're talking about Elliot Johnson, a bench player who was dropped from a playoff contender and had a .458 OPS for the year over in KC!!! Since coming over to Atlanta, he's got a sparkling .600 OPS. We're talking Janish bad here. Any option is better.

[Dalyn]

Look at that.

You know what time it is?

http://www.decadentlifestyle.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/time-to-get-weird.jpg

[Teheran_49]

Might be a very long and frustrating night with Fernandez pitching. This will be the last time we will see him though because he should be getting shut down soon. I wonder what the Braves will do with Teheran come play-off time?

[Heyward]

I think all of you guys are nuts. I think we will get to Fernandez.

He's given up 2 runs or less in 8 straight starts.

Barring a rain shortened start, I doubt we get to him.

Maybe get 1-2 runs, doubtful we get much more, he's the real deal.

[Hawk]

He's given up 2 runs or less in 8 straight starts.

Barring a rain shortened start, I doubt we get to him.

Maybe get 1-2 runs, doubtful we get much more, he's the real deal.

You must be a real popular guy in Vegas.

[Heyward]

You must be a real popular guy in Vegas.

Yeah, because saying a guy with a 2.30 ERA and has been one of the top pitchers in baseball is really going out on a limb, can't give credit to other players?

[bravesnumberone]

No sense even playing this one. Only for the minor detail that we're 47-18 at home and they're 20-44 on the road.

What I'm saying is, it doesn't matter what wrinkle you put in the lineup. Throw your best out there.

[sturg33]

Yeah, because saying a guy with a 2.30 ERA and has been one of the top pitchers in baseball is really going out on a limb, can't give credit to other players?

If all your predictions have come true, we'd be 13 - 120

[stpeteirish]

He's given up 2 runs or less in 8 straight starts.

Barring a rain shortened start, I doubt we get to him.

Maybe get 1-2 runs, doubtful we get much more, he's the real deal.

1-2 runs might be enough, Marlins are not real good at scoring runs

[bravesnumberone]

The way we've been pitching, I like our chances if we can scrape across 2-3.

[Julio3000]

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

We've got three guys in the lineup with 150+ PAs and sub-.200 BAs. Julio Teheran has the 6th-highest average in the lineup. And we have the best record in the league.

[Hawk]

And in beisbol.

[VirginiaBrave]

What has soured the Braves on Gattis? If Mac is re-signed, Gattis will be traded this winter.

[bravesnumberone]

What has soured the Braves on Gattis? If Mac is re-signed, Gattis will be traded this winter.

No idea. He hasn't taken a pitch in three months, but you'd figure they'd give a shot at some point.

[Julio3000]

And in beisbol.

Even better.

[TURBO]

lol

[cajunrevenge]

He's given up 2 runs or less in 8 straight starts.

Barring a rain shortened start, I doubt we get to him.

Maybe get 1-2 runs, doubtful we get much more, he's the real deal.


ROFLCOPTER

[mfree80]

EJ and Freddie. What a combination!!!

[Julio3000]

That is a bad man.

[sturg33]

But if the Marlins get another baserunner, Heyward will say they are making a comeback and our division lead is in danger

[parkvadawg]

Lol folks should stop doubting the good guys

[The Chosen One]

I think its time for Heyward to join niners on thr bench for 2 days.

[cajunrevenge]

I think its time for Heyward to join niners on thr bench for 2 days.


How about a fastball to the jaw.

[Lville21]

This Teheran kid makes me miss Thomas Hanson....




says no one ever.

[parkvadawg]

Its been a great year. Some posters (not talking about Heyward) have just wanted to see them fail just so they could be right. Folks this is very good team and has been all year. It remains to be seen how much noise we make in the playoffs, but we are going to make noise.

[cajunrevenge]

Marlins have drawn 34 walks in their previous 10 games. None of them have scored.

[bravesnumberone]

Wow...

[Lville21]

Did BJ lob that ball or is his arm fairly weak?

[mfree80]

Looked like a double clutch on the relay throw too.

Should of had him.

[TURBO]

Looked like a double clutch on the relay throw too.

Should of had him.

Yeah I noticed the double clutch by Simmons too

[mfree80]

Ball four was not close on either Stanton or Morrison.

[thethe]

Man, Julio is working at a Steve Trachsel pace right now.

[BlackwaterPark]

Teheran has hit a wall

[buck7580]

Still wondering which pitchers the Braves will add when the rosters expand. I guess they could add more pitchers to the roster to take the place of the guys who are on the 60 day DL.

[Dalyn]

Teheran has hit a wall

He is pretty close to the most innings he has pitched in one season.

[Dalyn]

Contact! Wow.

[mfree80]

Get him to third

[Runnin]

Freddie ain't afraid of no 96 mph fastball.

[Teheran_49]

I know Fernandez is the enemy but you gotta like this kid. Not only is he a great player but seems like an all-around great person. For every Puig and Escobar there's a Fernandez so the myth that all Cuban players are trouble obviously does not apply to Fernandez.

[buck7580]

Fast feet Freeman

[parkvadawg]

I know Fernandez is the enemy but you gotta like this kid. Not only is he a great player but seems like an all-around great person. For every Puig and Escobar there's a Fernandez so the myth that all Cuban players are trouble obviously does not apply to Fernandez.

Yep got a good laugh out of that

[thethe]

Mac is awesome.

[bravesnumberone]

Bleh. Like watching Fernandez pitch. He has fun.

[buck7580]

Mac is awesome.

Mac was trying to pull a Rico Carty move. Think Rico fouled off 30 straight in one at-bat.

[thethe]

Chances BJ gets Freeman in? 5%?

[buck7580]

Chances BJ gets Freeman in? 5%?

would like a mighty wild pitch

[buck7580]

my my. Come on Simmons!

[Dalyn]

Simmons. :mad0182: How do you swing there?

[bravesnumberone]

We've got to start producing more in those situations again.

[Gary82]

Really, Andrelton, really?

[Lville21]

Fernandez having control issues and Andrelton swings at the first pitch.

[Dalyn]

Fernandez having control issues and Andrelton swings at the first pitch.

Shouldn't even have the green light.

[bravesnumberone]

Keep putting up zeroes, Julio.

[TURBO]

ummm wow

[bravesnumberone]

Simmons is very frustrating. As soon as you want to strangle him for his idiotic hitting approach, he goes out and makes another dazzling play at short.

[Runnin]

Simmons has a leprechaun on his shoulder in the field.

[jpack1]

Anybody who watches any baseball has to see that Simmons is just the best defensive SS maybe ever. Just amazing.

[bravesnumberone]

Freaking walks.

[zitothebrave]

Schafer now has this line since May 1

.250/.312/.388 27.6

Since coming back from the DL

.151/.207/.208 32.8K%

[TURBO]

umm. wow again

[bravesnumberone]

Good Freaking God. Simmons :banana:

[thethe]

GOAT

[buck7580]

Why does BJ seem to loaf most of the time?

[Gary82]

I want highlights and I want them now, damn it. Hurry up MLB. My Simba thread needs content!

[Gary82]

dominant.

[Heyward]

I think its time for Heyward to join niners on thr bench for 2 days.

Because I said we may struggle vs one of the top pitchers in baseball?

[Gary82]

The Nats lost, btw. I guess the magic number is 16.

[bravesnumberone]

Hopefully we can get it to 15. Need the bullpen to shut them out.

[Gary82]

I can't see Kimbrel pitching in this one though. He's been used a lot lately.

[Dalyn]

Fredi...

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQS4TXfqmyn_Mwy0Y0MUH3CKJoq0FpnH K__WRrk40zWaiacwfTx

[jpack1]

Why the heck do you take him out there. Just more strange moves by Fredito.

[Heyward]

Not a fan of pulling him especially with Kimbrel likely unavailable and Walden may or may not being available either.

Leaving only 5 in the pen possibly.

[Teheran_49]

Schafer now has this line since May 1

.250/.312/.388 27.6

Since coming back from the DL

.151/.207/.208 32.8K%

I think those numbers would be about par for Schafer with a little bit higher OBP like .330. Unfortunately that is better than the guy who is robbing the Braves. I wouldn't dislike BJ so much if it didn't seem like he just doesn't care what happens. There's no hustle from this guy and I just don't see any fire in this guy what so ever. Seems to me that he's happy to have ripped of the Braves and doesn't care what happens. Look at how he fielded the ball just a minute ago on that pop up. Very Carl Crawford like if you ask me and that doesn't fly in Atlanta. I want guys with heart who love to play the game and not guys who get paid and quit trying because they got paid.

[stpeteirish]

Why the heck do you take him out there. Just more strange moves by Fredito.

yeah its Juan Pierre for god's sake. It doesn't matter which arm you pitch with.

[Runnin]

Why the heck do you take him out there. Just more strange moves by Fredito.
Nothing strange about it at all. Seeing how far you can milk Teheran makes no sense at all.

[Dalyn]

I think those numbers would be about par for Schafer with a little bit higher OBP like .330. Unfortunately that is better than the guy who is robbing the Braves. I wouldn't dislike BJ so much if it didn't seem like he just doesn't care what happens. There's no hustle from this guy and I just don't see any fire in this guy what so ever. Seems to me that he's happy to have ripped of the Braves and doesn't care what happens. Look at how he fielded the ball just a minute ago on that pop up. Very Carl Crawford like if you ask me and that doesn't fly in Atlanta. I want guys with heart who love to play the game and not guys who get paid and quit trying because they got paid.

.330?

:happy0157:

[bravesnumberone]

Damnit. More nibbling. And another wasted reliever.

[Dalyn]

Ayala.

http://media.tumblr.com/b33df75e9ed085ba77a5c55d81aabbbc/tumblr_inline_mjhj6imsnh1qz4rgp.gif

[Gary82]

OT The Phillies and Mets are tied for third place but their run differentials are no where near similar.

Mets -33
Phillies -110

[Teheran_49]

Not a fan of pulling him especially with Kimbrel likely unavailable and Walden may or may not being available either.

Leaving only 5 in the pen possibly.

I mean it's kind of a fine line with a young pitcher who hasn't came close to pitching 200 innings. I just am curious as to what we do with him come the play-offs? Seems like the magic number for these guys is a 170 IP with the idea of letting Julio go 200 next year. Then again I haven't heard anything about what they'll do with Julio so it's a wait and see approach.

[buck7580]

One pitch Ayala

[Gary82]

Ayala gets out of it!

http://www.crushable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Kristen-Wiig-target-lady-saturday-night-live.gif

[Runnin]

Ayala.

http://media.tumblr.com/b33df75e9ed085ba77a5c55d81aabbbc/tumblr_inline_mjhj6imsnh1qz4rgp.gif
good call

[Dalyn]

I mean it's kind of a fine line with a young pitcher who hasn't came close to pitching 200 innings. I just am curious as to what we do with him come the play-offs? Seems like the magic number for these guys is a 170 IP with the idea of letting Julio go 200 next year. Then again I haven't heard anything about what they'll do with Julio so it's a wait and see approach.


http://th02.deviantart.net/fs8/200H/i/2005/280/2/9/Ze_Ebil_Hyphens_by_Jerm123321.png

[thethe]

Our young pitching is sick.

[parkvadawg]

I think those numbers would be about par for Schafer with a little bit higher OBP like .330. Unfortunately that is better than the guy who is robbing the Braves. I wouldn't dislike BJ so much if it didn't seem like he just doesn't care what happens. There's no hustle from this guy and I just don't see any fire in this guy what so ever. Seems to me that he's happy to have ripped of the Braves and doesn't care what happens. Look at how he fielded the ball just a minute ago on that pop up. Very Carl Crawford like if you ask me and that doesn't fly in Atlanta. I want guys with heart who love to play the game and not guys who get paid and quit trying because they got paid.

You are reaching

[Dalyn]

good call


Get with it, Runnin. It is a joke about his nervous condition.

[Dalyn]

Wonder how much that cost Dan?

[Teheran_49]

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs8/200H/i/2005/280/2/9/Ze_Ebil_Hyphens_by_Jerm123321.png

Look man wtf is ur deal dude? You wanna act bad behind a computer then so be it. How old are you? I have to assume your young or very immature mentally.

[bravesnumberone]

Positive contributions. Let's not **** this up.

[Dalyn]

BJ! Beautiful.

[Hawk]

That was a deelicious bunt.

[parkvadawg]

Lack of hustle and team play by BJ

[Gary82]

Holy sheep ****! Back to back hits by our .180 boys!

[Runnin]

Upton with a thing of beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice bunt boss man.

[Dalyn]

Look man wtf is ur deal dude? You wanna act bad behind a computer then so be it. How old are you? I have to assume your young or very immature mentally.

-You're-

And it was a joke, buddy.

[bravesnumberone]

Will Gattis swing at the first pitch?

[Hawk]

Fredi gettin' his bunt on.

[Teheran_49]

BJ! Beautiful.

:YDS:

[Gary82]

yay, no pop ups. this is an improbable inning!

[buck7580]

Lack of hustle and team play by BJ

He hustled down the line that time.

[Hawk]

Damn, Joe with the Rudy Seanez comparison.

[Gary82]

Walking the slumping Gattis. Good call.

[parkvadawg]

He hustled down the line that time.

Sarcasm

[Runnin]

Get with it, Runnin. It is a joke about his nervous condition.
I know what it is. It's you playing both sides. You get to fuel the peanut gallery and claim satire.

[Teheran_49]

-You're-

And it was a joke, buddy.
http://blog.swagbucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GrammarPolice.jpg

[buck7580]

Pinch hit for Schafer??

[parkvadawg]

Get it done Jordan

[parkvadawg]

Meh

[Hawk]

Pinch hit for Schafer??

He should have. 2-23.

[BlackwaterPark]

Jordan sucks

[bravesnumberone]

Totally didn't see that coming. :mad0182::mad0182::mad0182:

[Dalyn]

I know what it is. It's you playing both sides. You get to fuel the peanut gallery and claim satire.

As I said before, I hate peanuts.

[Hawk]

unffffffffffff

[zitothebrave]

Totally didn't see that coming. :mad0182::mad0182::mad0182:

Well it could have been a double play. Positive mental attitude.

[nsacpi]

pumpkin's been milked dry

[Gary82]

I miss Jason Heyward.:Sad:

[Teheran_49]

That was ball 4 Elliot!!! UGH!

[bravesnumberone]

How in the absolute hell was Terdo not used there?

[Braves1976]

If we lose this game we'll look back at this inning. Schafer against a lefty is stupid and EJ is too aggressive refusing to walk.

[nsacpi]

How in the absolute hell was Terdo not used there?

Fredi likes pumpkins

[Hawk]

Now we get to watch Fredi ravage the bullpen even more.

[Runnin]

Uggla and BJ deserved to score there.

[Dalyn]

How in the absolute hell was Terdo not used there?

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQS4TXfqmyn_Mwy0Y0MUH3CKJoq0FpnH K__WRrk40zWaiacwfTx

[nsacpi]

Oooo. A rare high leverage opportunity for Anthony.

[mfree80]

Ball 1 was a strike

[Teheran_49]

How in the absolute hell was Terdo not used there?

Terdo isn't any better hitting as a righty and Fredi is not going to down grade a position defensively in late innings.

[stpeteirish]

amazing how many bad hitters we have, and they all came to bat that inning. Terdo sits while Schafer and Elliot Johnson hit? WTF.

3 guys hitting under .200, two in terrible slumps,and Schafer can't hit lefties but Fredi leaves him in.

[stpeteirish]

Oooo. A rare high leverage opportunity for Anthony.

I'm afraid to watch.

[Bj1133]

Reed Johnson would have been nice to have that inning

[Dalyn]

Reed Johnson would have been nice to have that inning

That's a fact.

[nsacpi]

I can feel our season slipping away.

[Dalyn]

I can feel our season slipping away.

Leprosy is a terrible disease.

[Hawk]

Well, that was curious.

[parkvadawg]

One day they will learn?

[buck7580]

Sweet throw Schafer

[Gary82]

wow, dumb

[Dalyn]

Expert slide.

[nsacpi]

Dumb Stanton. Schafer was a pretty good pitcher in HS.

[bravesnumberone]

In any event, we can't keep skating by like this scoring two runs off one hit. We've got to start scoring runs, or our starters are going to have to go even deeper, or else, our bullpen is just going to be run completely ragged.

[Gary82]

Now who pitches the ninth?

[Teheran_49]

Great play Schafer and I can't believe that Fredi used Varvaro in a crucial situation and I'm even more surprised Anthony didn't blow it.

[mfree80]

Jordan saved him big time!

[Teheran_49]

Now who pitches the ninth?


Avilan

[buck7580]

Now who pitches the ninth?

Joe says Avilan.

[nsacpi]

Now who pitches the ninth?

I would go with Wood. He's young.

[Hawk]

An insurance run here would be, as they say, splendid.

[thethe]

Teheran/Wood

Best 22 and under duo in baseball?

[parkvadawg]

Teheran/Wood

Best 22 and under duo in baseball?

Exciting to say the least

[Bj1133]

3 righties due up for the Marlins - I'd go with Carpenter or stick with Varvaro for another inning

[Dalyn]

3 righties due up for the Marlins - I'd go with Carpenter or stick with Varvaro for another inning

Would rather have Carpenter than Avilan.

[nsacpi]

Jaime Pedroza is a Golden God

[Hawk]

Haha that is actually the first time I have seen Qualls' fist bump

[Dalyn]

Fredi is really going with Maholm here? :suprise: That's interesting.

[mfree80]

One run saving coming up.

[Dalyn]

Nice start.

[nsacpi]

Varvaro time

[buck7580]

Jaime Pedroza is a Golden God

He hits pretty well when he bats right-handed. He could be a utility infielder in ATL some day.

[TURBO]

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[buck7580]

Pop up Dobbs

[Hawk]

Haha, I may have just **** my pants. May.

[nsacpi]

Release Kimbrel

[Julio3000]

pumpkin's been milked dry

Indeed.

[bravesnumberone]

So we've scored 10 runs over the last four games, 15 over the last five and won all of them. And Varvaro gets a two-inning save. Wow.

[parkvadawg]

This I'm sure was a surprise to no one

[mfree80]

Varvaro!!!!!

[Dalyn]

Varvaro! :Gasp:

[buck7580]

Whew

[cajunrevenge]

In any event, we can't keep skating by like this scoring two runs off one hit. We've got to start scoring runs, or our starters are going to have to go even deeper, or else, our bullpen is just going to be run completely ragged.

Cant just be satisfied with winning? We used to win 1-0 and 2-1 a lot in the 90's.

[Gary82]

That's 30 games over .500.

Magic Number is 15.

[bravesnumberone]

Cant just be satisfied with winning? We used to win 1-0 and 2-1 a lot in the 90's.

And had three sure enough Hall of Famers starting and going much deeper into games. I'm happy with the wins, but they're not going to keep up if we don't start hitting.

[Dalyn]

Indeed.

Fredi has pumpkin seeds all over his face.

[MadduxFanII]

I don't know if the "score two runs in the first couple innings, then hold on for dear life" plan would be my strategy, but it has worked wonderfully these last few games.

[Julio3000]

How many games did the Nats gain on us tonight, with their loss and our win?

[Heyward]

ROFLCOPTER

We scored 2 runs off him, so I ended up being right again.

Fernandez was as good as advertised, but I'm negative because I didn't think we'd score 10+ off a guy with an ERA around 2.30

[Diesel]

Whew. Varvaro threw a meatball 87 mph change belt high to Dobbs. Better to be lucky than good!

[nsacpi]

When we are old we will be telling our grandchildren about the Varvaro Game.

[Heyward]

Nice win, need to start scoring more runs though.

[Dalyn]

How many games did the Nats gain on us tonight, with their loss and our win?

Let me Heyward that...

17?

(My Heyward is a little rusty)

[The Chosen One]

Fredi the genius.

[nsacpi]

Fredi the genius.

Indeed. He's been holding Varvaro in reserve all season.

[Runnin]

30 games of .500.

[buck7580]

How many games did the Nats gain on us tonight, with their loss and our win?

-2 don't you think

[nsacpi]

And the Mississippi Braves win. What a night!

[nsacpi]

-2 don't you think

Very good. The benefits of an MIT education.

[zitothebrave]

Magic Number is 15 motherfrackers!

[nsacpi]

I'm sensing Uggla and BJ are about to bust out.

[bravesnumberone]

I'm sensing Uggla and BJ are about to bust out.

We need them to. Any freaking day now.

[Teheran_49]

Teheran/Wood

Best 22 and under duo in baseball?

All while doing it for the team that has the most wins in baseball. You have to really love the potential of our big three of Minor,Teheran, and Wood.

[mfree80]

Beachy and Medlin aren't bad either.

[Braves1976]

All while doing it for the team that has the most wins in baseball. You have to really love the potential of our big three of Minor,Teheran, and Wood.

Agreed. They have all three had great years thus far. Hopefully it continues and they carry us in the post-season.

[zitothebrave]

I'm sensing Uggla and BJ are about to bust out.

Double entendre for the win.

[Braves1976]

Beachy and Medlin aren't bad either.

Hopefully Beachy is back after his time on the DL. He was doing well for us, giving us quality starts every time out pretty much (minus that first game of course).

[tvsportscaster]

Evan Gattis sent to AAA to get some at-bats. He will be back up Tuesday, a corresponding move will be announced tomorrow.

[mfree80]

Hopefully Beachy is back after his time on the DL. He was doing well for us, giving us quality starts every time out pretty much (minus that first game of course).


I really like the look of next years rotation as it appears right now.

[Heyward]

Hopefully Beachy is back after his time on the DL. He was doing well for us, giving us quality starts every time out pretty much (minus that first game of course).

I'd shut him down the rest of the season.

Let him get healthy for next year.

[zitothebrave]

Evan Gattis sent to AAA to get some at-bats. He will be back up Tuesday, a corresponding move will be announced tomorrow.

So he'll be off the playoff roster then huh, interesting. Shame we can't have him get a fake injury instead.

[mfree80]

So he'll be off the playoff roster then huh, interesting. Shame we can't have him get a fake injury instead.

I think any injury to a position player will allow him to be back on.

I could see Janish or Elliot getting a slight pull if needed.

[buck7580]

So he'll be off the playoff roster then huh, interesting. Shame we can't have him get a fake injury instead.

He would still be eligible for the post-season roster.

[bravesnumberone]

Tonight would have been a good chance to get him some at bats with Justin out. Whatever. Hopefully he can get himself going for September.

[CyYoung31]

21 winning seasons in 23 years.

[Dalyn]

21 winning seasons in 23 years.

Nothing wrong with that.

[tvsportscaster]

So he'll be off the playoff roster then huh, interesting. Shame we can't have him get a fake injury instead.

No he's eligibile for the playoffs. Anyone in the organization by August 31st is eligible for post-season. This is strictly for him to go down there and get some at-bats. The fact there was no corresponding move announced tonight makes me believe they might be close to a trade.

[cajunrevenge]

We scored 2 runs off him, so I ended up being right again.

Fernandez was as good as advertised, but I'm negative because I didn't think we'd score 10+ off a guy with an ERA around 2.30

You said 1-2 runs MAYBE. We scored 2 within the first 3 batters faced. I can guarantee you we will score more than 2 runs on him in the future. To pretend its not a possibility is asinine.

[bravesnumberone]

No he's eligibile for the playoffs. Anyone in the organization by August 31st is eligible for post-season. This is strictly for him to go down there and get some at-bats. The fact there was no corresponding move announced tonight makes me believe they might be close to a trade.

Cunningham can't come back up this soon, can he? Maybe they use an extra reliever since our offense can't score any more than three runs.

[The Chosen One]

21 winning seasons in 23 years.

You talking about the Pittsburgh Pirates right?

[Heyward]

You said 1-2 runs MAYBE. We scored 2 within the first 3 batters faced. I can guarantee you we will score more than 2 runs on him in the future. To pretend its not a possibility is asinine.

Well, it's mainly because of the lineup that was out there.

With Heyward and JUp, probably could of got more but the kid was as good as advertised.

And after those two runs, didn't do all that much the rest of the way.

[Heyward]

No he's eligibile for the playoffs. Anyone in the organization by August 31st is eligible for post-season. This is strictly for him to go down there and get some at-bats. The fact there was no corresponding move announced tonight makes me believe they might be close to a trade.

Think so too, maybe a relief pitcher or another bat possibly.

[zitothebrave]

No he's eligibile for the playoffs. Anyone in the organization by August 31st is eligible for post-season. This is strictly for him to go down there and get some at-bats. The fact there was no corresponding move announced tonight makes me believe they might be close to a trade.

That's only true with an injury. If everyone position playerwho's on the 25 man now is healthy, he cannot make it.

[Hawk]

That's only true with an injury. If everyone position playerwho's on the 25 man now is healthy, he cannot make it.

That's how I interpret it as well, but here's David O'Brien's take: "Gattis’ eligibility for the postseason roster will not be affected. Any player who is a part of an organization as of Aug. 31 is eligible to play with that team in the postseason."

And here are the official eligibility rules:


Post-Season Roster Eligibility

1. All players on a club's MLB Active List (25-man roster) as of midnight (Eastern) on August 31st are eligible to be included on the club's post-season (LDS, LCS, or World Series) 25-man roster. Players who are on an MLB club's Disabled List, Bereavement List, Paternity List, Military List, Suspended List, or Restricted List (Prohibited Substance Suspension or extended Bereavement Leave only) as of midnight (Eastern) on August 31st are also eligible to be included on the club's post-season 25-man roster, but only after spending the minimum number of days required to be served by a player on that list. Players on the Disqualified List, Ineligible List, or Restricted List (for reasons other than extended Bereavement Leave or a Prohibited Substance Suspension) as of midnight August 31st are not eligible. Thus, as long as more than 25 players are eligible, the club's MLB Active List (25-man roster) can be "tweaked" prior to the start of each post-season series.

2. Generally, a post-season eligible player who is on an MLB Disabled List (7-day, 15-day, or 60-day) at the conclusion of the MLB regular season can be replaced on his club's LDS, LCS, or World Series Active List (25-man roster) by any player (regardless of position) who was in the club's organization as of midnight (Eastern) on August 31st, including players acquired from another organization prior to midnight on August 31st and minor leaguers who were not on the club's MLB 40-man roster at that time. Any player who is placed directly onto an MLB 60-day Disabled List after August 1st is NOT eligible to be replaced on a post-season roster (and is not eligible to be reinstated from the 60-day DL and placed onto the club's MLB Active List until 60 days have passed), but a player who is transferred from the 15-day DL to the 60-day DL after August 1st is eligible to be replaced. Players on the Disqualified List, Ineligible List, or Restricted List (for reasons other than extended Bereavement Leave or a Prohibited Substance Suspension) as of midnight (Eastern) on August 31st are not eligible to be a "replacement player." A player who is on a Disabled List or who is serving a Prohibited Substance Suspension cannot be a post-season "replacement player" until the player has served the required minimum number of days (if on a DL) or games (if suspended). If the "replacement player" is on a minor league reserve list, the player must be added to his club's MLB Reserve List (40-man roster) before he can be made eligible for the post-season.

3. A post-season eligible player who is injured prior to the start of a post-season series can (with approval of the MLB Commissioner) be replaced on his club's MLB Active List (25-man roster) for that series by another player (regardless of position) who was in the club's organization as of midnight August 31st, including players acquired from another organizaiton prior to midnight August 31st and minor league players who were not on the club's MLB 40-man roster at that time. Players on the Disqualified List, Ineligible List, or Restricted List (for reasons other than extended Bereavement Leave or a Prohibnited Substance Suspension) as of midnight August 31st are not eligible to be a "replacement player." A player who is on a Disabled List or who is serving a Prohibited Substance Suspension cannot be a post-season "replacement player" until the player has served the required minimum number of days (if on a DL) or games (if suspended). If a replacement player is on a minor league reserve list, the player mustr be added to his club's 40-man roster before he can be made eligible for the post-season.

4. A post-season eligible player who is injured during a post-season series can (with approval of the MLB Commissiner) be replaced on his club's MLB Active List (25-man roster) prior to the conclusion of that series by another player (albeit in this case a pitcher must replace a pitcher and a position player must replace a position player) who was in the club's organization as of midnight August 31st, including players acquired from another organizaton prior to midnight August 31st and minor league players who were not on the club's MLB 40-man at that time. Players on the Disqualified List, Ineligible List, or Restricted List (for reasons other than extended Bereavement Leave or a Prohibnited Substance Suspension) as of midnight August 31st are not eligible to be a "replacement player." A player who is on a Disabled List or who is serving a Prohibited Substance Suspension cannot be a post-season "replacement player" until the player has served the required minimum number of days (if on a DL) or games (if suspended). If a replacement player is on a minor league reserve list, the player mustr be added to his club's 40-man roster before he can be made eligible for the post-season.

5. If an injured pitcher or position player is replaced during a post-season series, the injured pitcher or position player is ineligible to be reinstated to his club's Active List (25-man roster) for the balance of that series and the next series (LCS or World Series).

[BlackwaterPark]

@Braves: Evan Gattis has been optioned to Gwinnett. A Corresponding move will be announced tomorrow.

[Braves1976]

Wow, not only does Gattis not start on his night (even with J. Upton out), he also gets demoted right after the game. That's cold, I agree that he needs AB's but I totally disagree with how Fredi has handled this situation (including going back to before his injury).

[cajunrevenge]

Technically only the players on the 25 man roster at the end of the last day of August are eligible for the playoff roster but if they put one of those 25 players on the DL then anyone who was not signed/traded for in September can replace them. Now there is a giant loophole there because you can DL a player for a headache or any reason and MLB doesnt really care. Unless it was hurt the Yankees, then they would probably go all out for an investigation.

[thethe]

I'm happy for Gattis. He should have been in AAA much sooner. Guy still has loads of potential. Just needs to fine tune his approach.

[tvsportscaster]

Technically only the players on the 25 man roster at the end of the last day of August are eligible for the playoff roster but if they put one of those 25 players on the DL then anyone who was not signed/traded for in September can replace them. Now there is a giant loophole there because you can DL a player for a headache or any reason and MLB doesnt really care. Unless it was hurt the Yankees, then they would probably go all out for an investigation.

No according to DOB Gattis is eligible regardless. The rule is anyone in the organization by midnight August 31st is eligible. That is what DOB said in his article about Gattis. The Braves would not have made this move if would make him ineligible for the post-season.

[Hawk]

No according to DOB Gattis is eligible regardless. The rule is anyone in the organization by midnight August 31st is eligible. That is what DOB said in his article about Gattis. The Braves would not have made this move if would make him ineligible for the post-season.

Not disagreeing with you, but I think Dave is wrong here. The rules specifically state the player must be on the 25-man roster on the 31st. Unless I'm just reading them totally wrong.

[mfree80]

Not disagreeing with you, but I think Dave is wrong here. The rules specifically state the player must be on the 25-man roster on the 31st. Unless I'm just reading them totally wrong.

I think they do have to be on the roster, but there are loopholes big enough to drive a truck through, so it is not a problem.

[Hawk]

I think they do have to be on the roster, but there are loopholes big enough to drive a truck through, so it is not a problem.

Yeah, you are right -- but I still disagree with the AJC's "Any player who is a part of an organization as of Aug. 31 is eligible to play with that team in the postseason" statement. FWIW, it was written by Carroll Rogers, not DOB.

[jgriff3029]

I haven't read the article, but I would guess they mean as long as the player is in the organization by 8/31 the are ways to get them on the roster. Anyone traded for or picked up after that are ineligible for post season play even in the event of DLing someone.

[tvsportscaster]

Yeah, you are right -- but I still disagree with the AJC's "Any player who is a part of an organization as of Aug. 31 is eligible to play with that team in the postseason" statement. FWIW, it was written by Carroll Rogers, not DOB.

Seriously do you really think the Braves would have made this move if it was going to affect his playoff eligibility. It won't. I promise you is eligible for the post-season. No need to even worry about that. Bowman has also confirmed that.

[Hawk]

Seriously do you really think the Braves would have made this move if it was going to affect his playoff eligibility. It won't. I promise you is eligible for the post-season. No need to even worry about that. Bowman has also confirmed that.

Again, I'm not contesting the notion that Gattis will/won't be eligible for the postseason.

To say "any player in the organization is eligible" is an incorrect way of phrasing things.

A better way would be: "The Braves can (again) add him to their post season roster by replacing a disabled player (who is TBD.)"

[The Chosen One]

Bossman will be DL'd and will have lasik like Uggla.

[cajunrevenge]

We are just arguing semantics. The loophole is so big and obvious that to state that anyone in the organization is eligible is not really an incorrect statement. I dont know who they are bringing up but I they will more than likely be DL'd with a headache the last day of the season so Gattis can get on the roster. I can almost guarantee you this is how they got the third catcher on the postseason roster every year since I doubt they were on the roster before roster expansion.

[holden]

Guys.. we have a pretty good team this year.

[bravebonebook]

Agreed. And with this waiver wire mess, I'm afraid every Brave playing in the post season is already on the roster. I highly doubt there will be a trade today for another bat or RP. Guess we'd better hope that Heyward can return and Uggla and BJ get it together these last few weeks!

[tvsportscaster]

The reason I seem to think there is going to be a trade is that the Braves are holding off on the roster move. With Gwinnett heading out on the road, you would have thought the move would have been announced last night. Just seems strange if they were going to call up a guy like Constanza, they would have already done it last night.

[thewupk]

The reason I seem to think there is going to be a trade is that the Braves are holding off on the roster move. With Gwinnett heading out on the road, you would have thought the move would have been announced last night. Just seems strange if they were going to call up a guy like Constanza, they would have already done it last night.

I think they are going to work on bringing an outfielder in but if that doesn't happen Conztanza will be the move.

[PawPawMaxwell]

I think they are going to work on bringing an outfielder in but if that doesn't happen Conztanza will be the move.
Why would they be bringing in another OFer?? Reed Johnson can come off the DL anytime they wish. The magic number is getting smaller, and Heyward should be back in plenty of time. With Elliot Johnson I see no need for Constanza since speed is his only asset.

I think it is just what Fredi is saying, give him some at bats, when the post season is clinched, give him some starts.