GDT 9/7/13: Braves (Wood) @ Phillies (Kendrick) 7:10 PM

[Dalyn]

What is going on?

BRAVES

B.J. Upton cf 0 - 2
J. Upton rf 0 - 1
F. Freeman 1b 0 - 1
E. Gattis lf 0 - 1
B. McCann c 0 - 1
C. Johnson 3b 0 - 1
D. Uggla 2b 0 - 0
A. Simmons ss 1 - 1
A. Wood p 0 - 1

Phillies

C. Hernández cf 0 - 1
K. Frandsen 1b 1 - 1
C. Utley 2b 0 - 1
C. Ruiz c 0 - 1
D. Ruf lf 0 - 1
C. Asche 3b 0 - 0
F. Galvis ss 1 - 1
J. Mayberry rf 0 - 1
K. Kendrick p 0 - 0


Of note:

Someone hit an owl.

Wood can't bunt.

And the bases are loaded.


COME ON, FREEMAN!

[Dalyn]

Freeman! :tchop:


Starting the thread worked.

[nsacpi]

Fastball right down the middle to Ruiz.

[mfree80]

Thanks Dalyn. Uhggggg. Wood.

[Dalyn]

Wood is looking beat.

[weso1]

Someone tell the Phillies 3B that that's supposed to be a hit for BABIP

[Dalyn]

We need something to get Johnson going.

Going to try -

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[Dalyn]

I don't even know why he bothers to bring a bat.

[Dalyn]

http://fantasyfurnace.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/mlb_uggla_braves.jpg

[Julio3000]

Of note:

Someone hit an owl.

Wood can't bunt.

And the bases are loaded.


COME ON, FREEMAN![/QUOTE]

I've got to think that plunking an owl is illegal in Pennsylvania.

[BravesBlock]

Anyone read the article on the braves website concerning Uggla? Freddy obviously still has confidence that he will produce.

[Dalyn]

I've got to think that plunking an owl is illegal in Pennsylvania.

Plunking an owl is only legal in 16 states.

[Dalyn]

Anyone read the article on the braves website concerning Uggla? Freddy obviously still has confidence that he will produce.

Big surprise. Wren needs to take the decision out of Fredi's hands.

[Garmel]

BJ's is looking like a bucket of **** again.

[Julio3000]

Cool hat trick, bro.

[Dalyn]

BJ's is looking like a bucket of **** again.

Don't worry. I am sure Fredi will bench him again soon.

[Julio3000]

Don't worry. I am sure Fredi will bench him again soon.

If Schafer didn't have bonitis, I'm sure BJ would have been pined again.

[Dalyn]

If Schafer didn't have bonitis, I'm sure BJ would have been pined again.

Type B, no less.

[jpx7]

I've got to think that plunking an owl is illegal in Pennsylvania.

Only if it's a plunking D-cell.

[jpx7]

If Schafer didn't have bonitis

It's his only regret.

[mfree80]

Wood looking more like a rookie tonight.

[jpx7]

Braves need this, with the Billy Hamilton victory of LA earlier.

Meanwhile, I'm stuck watching the plunking Cardinals. Wish the residents of Pennsylvania would chuck a couple D-cells at that bird.

[Dalyn]

Wood looking more like a rookie tonight.

Yep. Worrisome when combined with his previous start.

[BravesBlock]

Big surprise. Wren needs to take the decision out of Fredi's hands.

Well this will make some posters here happy he also was pretty adament that Jordan Schaefer is a fourth outfielder.

[tvsportscaster]

Wood must be starting to hit a wall, because his last two starts have been absolutely awful. Not exactly making a strong case for a playoff start.

[Dalyn]

Well this will make some posters here happy he also was pretty adamant that Jordan Schafer is a fourth outfielder.

Makes me think Schafer is going to be wonderful.

[Dalyn]

Wood must be starting to hit a wall, because his last two starts have been absolutely awful. Not exactly making a strong case for a playoff start.

Not like the team has many options.

[tvsportscaster]

Not like the team has many options.

Minor, Teheran and Medlen are locks. Right now it's just who's better between Maholm and Wood

[Dalyn]

This is going to turn the game around -


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[Dalyn]

Minor, Teheran and Medlen are locks. Right now it's just who's better between Maholm and Wood

Would be nice for Beachy to return healthy and take both of them out of the discussion.

[tvsportscaster]

The more disturbing thing about this game is getting owned again by Kyle Freakin Kendrick and the prospects of a sweep with Maholm against Hamels tomorrow. This team has picked a bad team to stop hitting and it's going to come back to cost them in the post-season.

[Julio3000]

This is going to turn the game around -


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Philly fans are loosening up their throwing arms.

[Julio3000]

The more disturbing thing about this game is getting owned again by Kyle Freakin Kendrick and the prospects of a sweep with Maholm against Hamels tomorrow. This team has picked a bad team to stop hitting and it's going to come back to cost them in the post-season.

You're assuming we make it to the postseason.

[Dalyn]

Yeah. The kid is going to die. But his sacrifice will not be forgotten!

[bravesnumberone]

This team has got to start playing better on the road, plain and simple.

[Dalyn]

You're assuming we make it to the postseason.

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[Dalyn]

Walking Gattis is akin to plunking an owl.

[Julio3000]

Walking Gattis is akin to plunking an owl.

A sure way to ruffle some feathers.

[Dalyn]

We need Johnson to come up big.

[Dalyn]

:tchop:

[Julio3000]

We need Johnson to come up big.

That Johnson is a free swinger.

[jpx7]

Not Simmons playing shortstop for the Pirates; true to title, not doing a very good job.

[Dalyn]

That Johnson is a free swinger.


BIP

[Dalyn]

Bat. Shoulder. Owl. Base.

[Dalyn]

:mad0182:

[jpx7]

That Johnson is a free swinger.

We should invite him to a key party ... 'cause he's been so key this season.

[KayJayNZ]

Words I'd never thought I say: please play Elliot Johnson.

[Dalyn]

We should invite him to a key party ... 'cause he's been so key this season.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/Red_Evil/sneaky.gif

[jpack1]

Fredi can say what he wants but Uggla sucks. BA counts for something.

[Julio3000]

We should invite him to a key party ... 'cause he's been so key this season.

"What am I talkin' about? I'm talkin' about BABIP, boy? What the hell are you talkin' about?"

[Dalyn]

Ayala. Why?

:facepalm:

[Dalyn]

Come on, Downs!

[Dalyn]

Hope Downs is okay.

[Dalyn]

NICE!




http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4873178382732519&pid=15.1

[BravesBlock]

If I heard correctly Freddy made a double switch when he replaced Downs. Uggla is out of the game.

[Dalyn]

SAFE!


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[Dalyn]

Needed a bunt there.

[jpx7]

Needed a bunt there.

That'll work.

[Dalyn]

Plunking Simmons.

Pull him.

[jsebe10]

Guess who's back!?!?!?!?!?

[tvsportscaster]

But Fredi doesn't want to play Schafer and we get the return of the terribly sucky BJ Upton. Nice managing.

[BravesBlock]

Simmons just tried to do too much. He was probably thinking that he could take third on a swing and miss by BJ and then hope for a fly ball to tie the game. Unfortunately BJ once again struck out so the Braves better do something in the 8th or this game is over.

[Garmel]

Don't worry. I am sure Fredi will bench him again soon.

We can only hope.

[Dalyn]

We can only hope.

:roll:

[Dalyn]

Very nice play.

[Garmel]

:roll:

Yeah, if we keep running him out there night after night I'm sure he'll get going......yeah, right.

[BravesBlock]

Ok here we go. We need to at least tie it here.

[Dalyn]

Yeah, if we keep running him out there night after night I'm sure he'll get going......yeah, right.


.348 .407 .565 .973 <-- last seven days before tonight. He has been on fire.

[yeezus]

Justin is back to never hitting anything. And when he does, never hard.

[Runnin]

Justin, that bat flip after a strike out isn't a good look.

[zitothebrave]

We can't score on Defratus or diekman? DAFUQ

[Dalyn]

Gattis needs to sit on that slider and tie this one.

[Garmel]

.348 .407 .565 .973 <-- last seven days before tonight. He has been on fire.

Wow, he had a few good days. Wanna bet he's going to be in suck mode again for next few weeks?

[zitothebrave]

Gattis :facepalm:

[yeezus]

Man Gattis is brutal to watch.

[BravesBlock]

Well that was an ugly 1/2 inning. Don't think they will score off of Paps so this game might be over.

[yeezus]

Fredi has to bring in Avilan to face Bernadina? Ok.

[jsebe10]

Man Gattis is brutal to watch.

Oh Gattis is? Have you not seen our abortion of an over payed 2B or CF? But yea, "Gattis" is brutal to watch.

[Dalyn]

Well that was an ugly 1/2 inning. Don't think they will score off of Paps so this game might be over.


If we can keep it 4-3, Simmons will come to the plate as the go-ahead run.


I seriously doubt Avilan will last through the playoffs.

[yeezus]

Oh Gattis is? Have you not seen our abortion of an over payed 2B or CF? But yea, "Gattis" is brutal to watch.

So all three of them can't be bad? I'm confused.

[jsebe10]

Look, plain and simple....Uggla does not need to be in the lineup or post season roster. Enough is enough of his sh*t. BJ needs to be on that same chopping block.

[Dalyn]

Look, plain and simple....Uggla does not need to be in the lineup or post season roster. Enough is enough of his sh*t. BJ needs to be on that same chopping block.


Why should BJ (who has sucked for less than a year and has recently been on fire) be on the same chopping block as Uggla? Uggla has had YEARS to turn it around.

[jsebe10]

So all three of them can't be bad? I'm confused.

Tell me honestly...game on the line tonight who do you want up there? BJ, STRuggla, or Gattis?

[NinersSBChamps]

Tell me honestly...game on the line tonight who do you want up there? BJ, STRuggla, or Gattis?

Hudson or Medlen.

[jsebe10]

Why should BJ (who has sucked for less than a year and has recently been on fire) be on the same chopping block as Uggla? Uggla has had YEARS to turn it around.

BJ has nearly a full season to get sh*t going and he's failed. He and Uggla are tit for tat..,Have a couple good games and give you hope and then BAM...back to blowing.

[BravesBlock]

Tell me honestly...game on the line tonight who do you want up there? BJ, STRuggla, or Gattis?

I'll take my chances with Gattis.

[Dalyn]

BJ has nearly a full season to get sh*t going and he's failed. He and Uggla are tit for tat..,Have a couple good games and give you hope and then BAM...back to blowing.

He hasn't failed. As soon as Heyward went down, forcing Fredi to play BJ, he has started turning it around. Kendrick made practically the whole team look like idiots today.

[jsebe10]

I'll take my chances with Gattis.

BING!!! And your prize is a free pack of Extendz

[Dalyn]

Avilan.

:mad0182:

[NinersSBChamps]

Sigh.

[BravesBlock]

Can we please just let Jordan take over CF for the remainder of this season. BJ just needs to call it a year, go home, forget about this season and come ready to play in 2014.

[jsebe10]

He hasn't failed. As soon as Heyward went down, forcing Fredi to play BJ, he has started turning it around. Kendrick made practically the whole team look like idiots today.

He's 0 for his last 10 with 7 strike outs...

[Dalyn]

Can we please just let Jordan take over CF for the remainder of this season. BJ just needs to call it a year, go home, forget about this season and come ready to play in 2014.

Wow.

.155 .222 .207 .429

That's how Schafer played in August. JANISH had a better month at the plate.

[zitothebrave]

Look, plain and simple....Uggla does not need to be in the lineup or post season roster. Enough is enough of his sh*t. BJ needs to be on that same chopping block.

Upton has been playing better ball than Schafer. Since the beginning of August Bossman has a .664 OPS and Jordan a .503. Since June 1st Schafer is at .618 and Bossman is at .676.

Upton has sucked but Schafer has sucked more since June. And Schafer has also sucked much more over his career than Bossman

So I'll go with the hotter hitter and the better career hitter. Only way Bossman is benched for the post season is if Jason is healthy. Then you put Terds or Gattis in LF.

As far as Uggla, largely the same thing. Janish is hot ass with the bat and while Elliot Johnson is hitting now, that won't continue.

That said we should be hitting them in 7th and 8th and that's it. Til Jason comes back

RF - Justin
C - Mac
1B - Freeman
LF - Gattis/Terds
3B - Johnson
SS - Simmons
then Uggs and Bossman.

[The Chosen One]

I usually don't root for other players to get hit, not even Harper, but Ruiz is one guy I'd HBP every time.

[Dalyn]

He's 0 for his last 10 with 7 strike outs...

Let's not ignore how Lee and Kendrick destroyed practically the whole team.

[Dalyn]

Plunk. Downs hurt.

[jsebe10]

[QUOTE=Dalyn;38992]Wow.

.155 .222 .207 .429

That's how Schafer played in August. JANISH had a better month at the plate.[/.

.197 .278 .310 .588

BJ for the year....yea, keep him in there....He'll turn it around b

[zitothebrave]

Alright it's rally time.

[NinersSBChamps]

Alright it's rally time.

lol

[Dalyn]

Wow.

.155 .222 .207 .429

That's how Schafer played in August. JANISH had a better month at the plate.[/.

.197 .278 .310 .588

BJ for the year....yea, keep him in there....He'll turn it around b


BJ has been hotter for over two months. Has been a MUCH better player throughout his career. And makes tons more. BJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Schafer

[jsebe10]

Wow.

.155 .222 .207 .429

That's how Schafer played in August. JANISH had a better month at the plate.


Let's not ignore how Lee and Kendrick destroyed practically the whole team.

No! This is about our 18 mil $ CF who is supposed to be the back bone of this team. This is what we spent Chippers money on..,,the highest paid contract in franchise history

[Dalyn]

No! This is about our 18 mil $ CF who is supposed to be the back bone of this team. This is what we spent Chippers money on..,,the highest paid contract in franchise history


Exactly. And you want to ignore him turning it around and bench him for a player who trashed the team when traded and got suspended for cheating.

[BravesBlock]

Wow.

.155 .222 .207 .429

That's how Schafer played in August. JANISH had a better month at the plate.
At this point I have more faith in Jordan than I do BJ. And I believe Jordan's defense is better than BJ's. I just think that BJ's 2013 baseball season is a bust at this point.

[Garmel]

Wow.

.155 .222 .207 .429

That's how Schafer played in August. JANISH had a better month at the plate.

After coming off the DL I may add.

[Dalyn]

And he is making 13 million this year and never will touch 18/year.

[Dalyn]

After coming off the DL I may add.

BJ also went on the DL.

[nsacpi]

Lord BABIP

[NinersSBChamps]

At least we have CJ23.

[Garmel]

BJ also went on the DL.

15 day DL for a slight groin vs. a month off with a broken foot. Wow, that's totally comparable.

[Dalyn]

15 day DL for a slight groin vs. a month off with a broken foot. Wow, that's totally comparable.

*sigh*

[Dalyn]

Would like to see BJ up there, but I doubt Simmons and EJ can pull off hits.

[zitothebrave]

15 day DL for a slight groin vs. a month off with a broken foot. Wow, that's totally comparable.

Or he reverted to his career norms. We have a large sample of Schafer sucking.

[NinersSBChamps]

Or he reverted to his career norms. We have a large sample of Schafer sucking.

Career norms like CJ would fall back to earth and Uggla and BJ would turn it around?

[Dalyn]

Too early, but his swing looked nice on that.

[The Chosen One]

I LOVE YOU SIMBA

[Dalyn]

So awesome. :tchop:

[NinersSBChamps]

MEOOW!@@@@@@@@@@@@

[Garmel]

Or he reverted to his career norms. We have a large sample of Schafer sucking.

True. However, try to drive off a foot that was recently broken. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[The Chosen One]

I'm telling you boys, Andrelton's numbers may be crappy, but he's one of those guys that's going to come up with some big hits for us in the playoffs.

[TDlxANDER]

Andy, you beautiful SOB

[yeezus]

Simba!!!!!

[drewdat]

Papelblown

[Runnin]

Just what we need, extra innings.

[NinersSBChamps]

Just what we need, extra innings.

We actually need wins. :cooter:

[yeezus]

I'm telling you boys, Andrelton's numbers may be crappy, but he's one of those guys that's going to come up with some big hits for us in the playoffs.

I think he's stayed confident through his struggles this season, and it's important to have that attitude and keep your head up, he's going to be a good hitter.

[Dalyn]

At least Avilan has already been used.

[zitothebrave]

lol

I'm so glad you're such an optimist.

[jpack1]

Megatron. Simmons is not crappy. 15hr out of your gold glove 24 yr old SS is hardly crappy. Stud is more like it. Let's win this one.

[NinersSBChamps]

We need to add a game on those Hollywood bitches. Let's win the whole damn thing!

[BravesBlock]

Just what we need, extra innings.

Wow. And just think how young he is. He is only going to get better!
I feel like we have great chance to steal this game.

[Dalyn]

I think he's stayed confident through his struggles this season, and it's important to have that attitude and keep your head up, he's going to be a good hitter.

I am sure being so great on defense helps him keep positive.

[jsebe10]

Atta boy Simba. Holden here!!!

[jpack1]

Freddy Garcia. Yikes.

[Garmel]

Oh, no. Garcia's pitching.

[yeezus]

Fredi used so many guys. So now Garcia has to pitch. There you go.

[zitothebrave]

Freddy Garcia? WTF

[yeezus]

I am sure being so great on defense helps him keep positive.

truth

[BravesBlock]

Oh well. They stole it back.

[jsebe10]

Lol thanks Fredi and the other Fredi

[Dalyn]

Freddy Garcia? WTF


:facepalm:


It is a slap in the face to a team who just fought back to get the tie. I can't stand Fredi.

[Dalyn]

Oh well. They stole it back.

You can't steal a gift.

[zitothebrave]

FRAK YOU FREDI

God damnit he's worthless with his bullpen management.

[NinersSBChamps]

Just what we need, extra innings.

Satisfied?

[jpack1]

Fredi and Freddy. How fitting. 2 sub par performers.

[Garmel]

Fredi's bonehead managing strikes again.

[zitothebrave]

:facepalm:


It is a slap in the face to a team who just fought back to get the tie. I can't stand Fredi.

Why not use Hale? Seriously it pisses me off.

[KayJayNZ]

3 game losing streak and Maholm vs Hamels tomorrow. Awesome. :mad0182:

[NinersSBChamps]

Why not use Hale? Seriously it pisses me off.

I've found it best to not even get angry anymore. Fredi sucks and there is nothing we can do about it.

[jsebe10]

Someone please remind me again why we are wasting roster spots for Loe and Garcia?

[jpack1]

Frrdi better be great in the clubhouse, cause he sucks everywhere else I can see.

[bravesnumberone]

Phucking phuck phuck.

[Braves1976]

Fredi and his favoring washed up veterans have cost us two of last three games. Loe and Garcia are washed up and no way should Garcia be pitching in that situation. What a waste of Simmons great efforts. Oh well.

[yeezus]

Why not use Hale? Seriously it pisses me off.

Freddy Garcia is an experienced veteran, which is always much better than using a young guy in that situation, no matter how god-awful that veteran may be.

[Dalyn]

Why not use Hale? Seriously it pisses me off.


Me too. If he is great outside the game, leave him outside the game. He shouldn't make another in-game decision for the Braves. Not one.

[tvsportscaster]

Why not use Hale? Seriously it pisses me off.

He was not going to use Hale and put a unproven rookie into a tie game in the 9th inning, that wasn't going to happen. This is a tough one to swallow.
But now we're looking at almost guaranteed four game losing streak. This team to put a brake on things before they spiral out of control.

[Dalyn]

Fredi and Freddy. How fitting. 2 sub par performers.

And look at who hit it out.

[Dalyn]

He was not going to use Hale and put a unproven rookie into a tie game in the 9th inning, that wasn't going to happen. This is a tough one to swallow.
But now we're looking at almost guaranteed four game losing streak. This team to put a brake on things before they spiral out of control.

Exactly why players like Loe and Garcia should NEVER be put under Fredi's control.

[sgtpepper1972]

Fredi and Freddy. How fitting. 2 sub par performers.

Somewhere Freddie's feeling so shameful about these two...

[zitothebrave]

Freddy Garcia is an experienced veteran, which is always much better than using a young guy in that situation, no matter how god-awful that veteran may be.

Garcia is a waste of a roster spot. He's a waste of everything.

[zitothebrave]

Somewhere Freddie's feeling so shameful about these two...

It's the extra E, it makes all the difference

BTW that can be Freddie's tagline he has my permission to use it.

[Braves1976]

Exactly why players like Loe and Garcia should NEVER be put under Fredi's control.

We basically threw game three of the Mets series by pitching Loe. When you start throwing away games like that you end up in losing streaks. I mean seriously, Loe has been so bad this year he had an ERA over 8.00 coming in (and had been released by two teams including the lowly Cubs).

[jpack1]

Haha. Freddie is going to go by Fred from now on. No confusion. Haha. Really poor game managing as usual. As well as lineup construction, namely writing Uggla on it.

[yeezus]

Garcia is a waste of a roster spot. He's a waste of everything.

But at least we know he sucks. What if we find out Hale sucks? Can't take that risk.

[Dalyn]

It's the extra E, it makes all the difference

BTW that can be Freddie's tagline he has my permission to use it.

The first E is for how an idiot spells idiot. The second E is for excellent.

[tvsportscaster]

Garcia is a waste of a roster spot. He's a waste of everything.

You guys are being hard on Garcia. Yes I know he threw one pitch tonight, but before that he's been very, very good, not giving up anything. Luis Avilan deserves some blame too. If he does his job and doesn't give up that 5th run in the 8th inning, then Simmons homer gives them the lead and Kimbrel closes it out.

[Gary82]

This **** is on Wren. He should have never signed Garcia, and he should have never allowed him to pitch in the bigs.


Oh well, I guess we won't win a 100 games.

[Dalyn]

You guys are being hard on Garcia. Yes I know he threw one pitch tonight, but before that he's been very, very good, not giving up anything. Luis Avilan deserves some blame too. If he does his job and doesn't give up that 5th run in the 8th inning, then Simmons homer gives them the lead and Kimbrel closes it out.

Avilan should probably be somewhere with his arm in a sling until a week or so before the playoffs.

[sgtpepper1972]

But at least we know he sucks. What if we find out Hale sucks? Can't take that risk.

Ok, that made me feel a bit better...

[Dalyn]

This **** is on Wren. He should have never signed Garcia, and he should have never allowed him to pitch in the bigs.


Oh well, I guess we won't win a 100 games.

He also deserves some blame for keeping Fredi after the collapse.

[yeezus]

You guys are being hard on Garcia. Yes I know he threw one pitch tonight, but before that he's been very, very good, not giving up anything. Luis Avilan deserves some blame too. If he does his job and doesn't give up that 5th run in the 8th inning, then Simmons homer gives them the lead and Kimbrel closes it out.

Fredi brought in Avilan to get Roger Bernadina out. David Carpenter can't get Roger Bernadina out? It's just dumb.

[BravesBlock]

Marquis just said Freddy needs to "change the lineup a bit". I was hoping he would clarify by advocating for some bench players to get a chance to start or did he mean to juggle up the current lineup construction. I personally think he meant to let some bench players have a chance. Replace BJ, Uggla and give Justin a night off as well.

[jsebe10]

He also deserves some blame for keeping Fredi after the collapse.

And signing BJ and Uggla?

[tvsportscaster]

Here's a serious question, with the injury to Downs the Braves need another lefty. Do they call on Joe Beimel and bring him up to pitch since he's already in the organization. It will be interesting to see but they need a second lefty in the bullpen with Downs unavailable.

[Julio3000]

The first E is for how an idiot spells idiot. The second E is for excellent.

The extra "d" stands for "discretion" and the "e" is for "efficacy."

[zitothebrave]

You guys are being hard on Garcia. Yes I know he threw one pitch tonight, but before that he's been very, very good, not giving up anything. Luis Avilan deserves some blame too. If he does his job and doesn't give up that 5th run in the 8th inning, then Simmons homer gives them the lead and Kimbrel closes it out.

He has a 5 ERA the last 2 years. Serious bum. This isn't several years ago. He's a washed up vet.

[Dalyn]

Fredi brought in Avilan to get Roger Bernadina out. David Carpenter can't get Roger Bernadina out? It's just dumb.

Remember what he used to do with Sherrill? He would bring him in to face the pitcher (and pull him afterward).

[Braves1976]

You guys are being hard on Garcia. Yes I know he threw one pitch tonight, but before that he's been very, very good, not giving up anything. Luis Avilan deserves some blame too. If he does his job and doesn't give up that 5th run in the 8th inning, then Simmons homer gives them the lead and Kimbrel closes it out.

Nah, Garcia pitching scoreless innings in games already over doesn't suddenly make him better. He was very bad this year in Baltimore, when it matters he falls apart. He cannot be counted on outside of pitching mop up duty. I was told that was all he'd see, so much for that.

[skidlee]

Not getting a good reliever and a decent SP is going to kill this team

[Braves1976]

He has a 5 ERA the last 2 years. Serious bum. This isn't several years ago. He's a washed up vet.

Exactly, though I'll admit that compared to Loe he doesn't look so bad. We couldn't do much worse than adding those two as far as washed up vets go.

[bravesnumberone]

How bad was Downs injury?

[Dalyn]

Not getting a good reliever and a decent SP is going to kill this team

Just bring in someone capable of utilizing the ones we have.

[zitothebrave]

Remember what he used to do with Sherrill? He would bring him in to face the pitcher (and pull him afterward).

Well to be fair. Sherrill is a bum at anyone but lefties.

[AerchAngel]

Exactly why players like Loe and Garcia should NEVER be put under Fredi's control.

Post of the day!

[tvsportscaster]

Nah, Garcia pitching scoreless innings in games already over doesn't suddenly make him better. He was very bad this year in Baltimore, when it matters he falls apart. He cannot be counted on outside of pitching mop up duty. I was told that was all he'd see, so much for that.

Well, the reason he was used tonight is because the only guys left in the bullpen where Hale, Loe and Kimbrel. We know Hale wasn't going to be used because he's a rookie and that's not a spot for him. Loe, well, do we need to say more and Kimbrel wasn't going to be used until it became a closing situation. So by process of elimination it had to be Garcia.

[Dalyn]

Well to be fair. Sherrill is a bum at anyone but lefties.

True or not, it is a plunking insult. You don't do **** like that. I've never seen it from another manager.

[Braves1976]

Here's a serious question, with the injury to Downs the Braves need another lefty. Do they call on Joe Beimel and bring him up to pitch since he's already in the organization. It will be interesting to see but they need a second lefty in the bullpen with Downs unavailable.

Beimel isn't the answer, lefties hit around .300 against him in AAA. He looked like another washed up vet to me the games I saw him pitch.

[BravesBlock]

Even marquis Grissom believes that Shaefer should be leading off. He said BJ doesn't look comfortable or confident at the plate. A couple of days observing will do him good. Hell I say let him observe the rest of the season. Maybe 2014 will be kinder to BJ.

[Braves1976]

Well, the reason he was used tonight is because the only guys left in the bullpen where Hale, Loe and Kimbrel. We know Hale wasn't going to be used because he's a rookie and that's not a spot for him. Loe, well, do we need to say more and Kimbrel wasn't going to be used until it became a closing situation. So by process of elimination it had to be Garcia.

The Braves could've called up Obispo and more help, I disagree with them not doing so.

[BravesBlock]

And Freddy just said other than Mac getting a day off tomorrow the lineup will basically be the same tomorrow. Hopefully he changes his mind tonight.

[zitothebrave]

Even marquis Grissom believes that Shaefer should be leading off. He said BJ doesn't look comfortable or confident at the plate. A couple of days observing will do him good. Hell I say let him observe the rest of the season. Maybe 2014 will be kinder to BJ.

Our 1-6 should be some order of Johnson, Justin, Freddie, left fielder, Mac and Simmons at the 6 spot.

You can pick around but they should be 1-6 then Bossman and Uggla at 7 and 8. Seriously hate it.

[Dalyn]

Even marquis Grissom believes that Shaefer should be leading off. He said BJ doesn't look comfortable or confident at the plate. A couple of days observing will do him good. Hell I say let him observe the rest of the season. Maybe 2014 will be kinder to BJ.


All Grissom knows is what happened this series and the stat line for each player. He probably doesn't even know Schafer is hurting right now. But BJ shouldn't be at the top, that is for sure.

[tvsportscaster]

All Grissom knows is what happened this series and the stat line for each player. He probably doesn't even know Schafer is hurting right now. But BJ shouldn't be at the top, that is for sure.

That's the thing, Schafer is now completely healthy, he just had a contusion which is healed. It was asinine he was not in there in some capacity.

[ChapelHillMatt]

We have Freddy Garcia and Kameron Loe

We have them, best record in baseball and we have them.

WHY?

[Braves1976]

We have Freddy Garcia and Kameron Loe

We have them, best record in baseball and we have them.

WHY?

Exactly Matt, Loe wasn't even good enough for the Cubs but he's good enough for the team going for best record? I was almost shocked we went with him again, esp. after adding Garcia. It doesn't surprise me when the Braves add a washed up vet. But two washed up vets back-to-back on this team? Wow.

[BravesBlock]

All Grissom knows is what happened this series and the stat line for each player. He probably doesn't even know Schafer is hurting right now. But BJ shouldn't be at the top, that is for sure.
I am pretty sure Grissom still lives in Arlanta so I would bet he has watched several games this year and probably has a good feel for this year's team.

[Dalyn]

That's the thing, Schafer is now completely healthy, he just had a contusion which is healed. It was asinine he was not in there in some capacity.


His back is bothering him, last I heard.

[Bdawg2309]

This **** is on Wren. He should have never signed Garcia, and he should have never allowed him to pitch in the bigs.


Oh well, I guess we won't win a 100 games.

Exactly, everyone blows wren...apparently he has no wrong doing in this

He has no excuse to not call la Stella up

[Runnin]

That's the thing, Schafer is now completely healthy, he just had a contusion which is healed. It was asinine he was not in there in some capacity.
I would rather let Schafer fully heal. We're gonna need him healthy in the playoffs and BJ needs the ABs to show he's either getting on track or not. Looks like not.

This is a frustrating time of the season.

[stpeteirish]

How bad was Downs injury?

Not bad. Broken finger on his non throwing hand, can play as soon as he can wear a glove. " non-displaced" fracture which means they don't have to splint it.

[zitothebrave]

Exactly, everyone blows wren...apparently he has no wrong doing in this

He has no excuse to not call la Stella up

Maybe because the M-Braves are in the playoffs.

I don't expect Tommy to come up. I hope he does, but given the fact that Mississippi could be playing ball for a little longer and La Stella is set to go to Arizona I think they may just give him the rest of the month off to rest. Hope he comes up. Rather have him in Atlanta than Arizona, but anyone getting their hopes up for La Stella are putting their faith in the wrong place. Braves are too future conscious right now to risk screwing up someone as talented as Tommy.