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goldfly
02-16-2017, 03:20 PM
i won't hold my breath on the president talking about this but i don't want you to not be informed about this:

FBI arrests man Myrtle Beach for planning Dylan Roof type attack

MYRTLE BEACH, SC (WMBF) – A man with connections to a white supremacy group was arrested in Myrtle Beach Wednesday after purchasing a gun from an undercover FBI agent, apparently intending to commit an attack “in the spirit of Dylann Roof.”

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On December 26, 2016, McDowell posted to Facebook a message: “I love love to act what u think,” followed by a link to the Temple Emanu-El Conservative Synagogue in Myrtle Beach, according to court documents. Horry County Police indicated to the FBI that McDowell had established White Supremacy Extremist connections while serving in prison in South Carolina for various criminal offenses. He also had tattoos indicating an affiliation with these groups. Read more about McDowell's criminal past here.

According to the federal complaint document, on January 5, 2017, McDowell posted to Facebook an anti-semetic screed referencing Dylann Roof, which included the statement: “you want to post if you ain’t got the heart to fight for Yahweh like dylann roof did you need to shut the f***** up…”

Dylann Roof was sentenced to death in January after being found guilty in the murder of nine African-American parishioners at the Emanuel AME Church in Charleston in June of 2015. Read more stories related to Roof here.

On January 6, the FBI found a message from McDowell on Facebook Instant Messenger revealing that he requested an “iron,” a coded term for a gun.

McDowell first met with the undercover FBI agent on January 12, believing that the agent “handled problems for the Aryan Nations,” the court document states. The agent met with McDowell at a Myrtle Beach hotel and discussed obtaining a gun, saying that he didn’t want it being traced back to him. McDowell said he didn’t want an attack coming back to him either, and he wanted to be “scot-free.” He emphasized that he did not want to get caught and go back to jail.

McDowell went on to say that “I got the heart to do that s***, but I don’t have to the good training,” the document states. He told the agent he sought a way to conduct an attack on non-whites without getting caught. He continued: “If I could do something on a f***** big scale and write on the f***** building or whatever, ‘In the spirit of Dylann Roof.’” McDowell told the officer he had not decided on a place or time to conduct the attack.

The next day, McDowell requested in a phone call with the agent a .40 caliber handgun to conduct an attack on an unknown location outside the county where he lived, the complaint states.

After another racist Facebook post and more conversations with the agent, McDowell planned to meet again in person to discuss the plan for the attack, according to the document.

The complaint states that on February 15, McDowell met with the agent as planned and purchased a .40 caliber Glock, the firing pin of which had been shaved down without McDowell’s knowledge, and hollow point ammunition.

Later that same day, agents saw McDowell holding a bag in the parking lot of the Hampton Inn in Myrtle Beach, and he was arrested and searched, the document states. Agents found a marijuana cigarette, a cell phone, the handgun and the ammunition.

McDowell appeared in a federal courtroom in Florence for an initial appearance on a charge of felon in possession of a firearm or ammunition. The prosecution requested a preliminary hearing and detention hearing by held at the same time, Tuesday, February 21 at 2:30 p.m. McDowell had not hired an attorney and was represented by a state-appointed attorney. McDowell will be booked at the Florence County Detention Center.

Rabbi Avi Perets of the Temple Emanu-El Conservative Synagogue in Myrtle Beach said he was not able to comment at this time under advice of the FBI, but said his hat was off to the police and he is beyond thankful that this potential threat was caught and stopped.

Hawk
02-16-2017, 03:53 PM
This guy is legitimately a moron: “you want to post if you ain’t got the heart to fight for Yahweh like dylann roof did you need to shut the f***** up…”

but then he wants to attack a Synagogue?

57Brave
02-16-2017, 03:57 PM
McDowell - huh?

do we refer to him as a Radical Scot/Irish Terrorist

and when will the President
a) condemn RSIT
b) say the words RSIT

Julio3000
02-16-2017, 03:58 PM
This guy is legitimately a moron: “you want to post if you ain’t got the heart to fight for Yahweh like dylann roof did you need to shut the f***** up…”

but then he wants to attack a Synagogue?

I think the irony may be lost on this guy.

goldfly
02-16-2017, 04:14 PM
This guy is legitimately a moron:

yeah, looking at his picture and him thinking he is the master race and better than others gives that away

but i digress

50PoundHead
02-16-2017, 07:16 PM
At the risk of being accused of fatism, I would say the suspect could have easily hidden his ammunition between his multiple chins.

Krgrecw
02-16-2017, 07:21 PM
Guys on the spectrum.

No normal person gets a gun and confides in a stranger that he wants to commit a mass murder.

57Brave
02-16-2017, 07:30 PM
and what is the difference between this lunatic doing it and a lunatic in Syria that straps a bomb to his waist ?
what is the difference between this lunatic and each of the 19 lunatics that hijacked 3 planes ?

why does this call for a police solution and the others I described military ?

AerchAngel
02-22-2017, 10:03 AM
and what is the difference between this lunatic doing it and a lunatic in Syria that straps a bomb to his waist ?
what is the difference between this lunatic and each of the 19 lunatics that hijacked 3 planes ?

why does this call for a police solution and the others I described military ?

You are without a doubt an idiot, the moran on this board.

JFC, I just shake my head at you.

cajunrevenge
02-22-2017, 10:14 AM
and what is the difference between this lunatic doing it and a lunatic in Syria that straps a bomb to his waist ?
what is the difference between this lunatic and each of the 19 lunatics that hijacked 3 planes ?

why does this call for a police solution and the others I described military ?


I know what they both have in common. Religon. How many religious people here would kill if they thought thats what their god wanted. If you wouldnt then your just an atheist but refuse to admit it.

thethe
02-22-2017, 10:18 AM
Do these lunatics have standing armies?

Julio3000
02-22-2017, 10:48 AM
Do these lunatics have standing armies?

Huh?

thethe
02-22-2017, 11:13 AM
Huh?

Some love to use the argument why are these people different from Islamic terrorists and it should be addressed with the same attention. Just trying to identify differences.

AerchAngel
02-22-2017, 11:21 AM
I know what they both have in common. Religon. How many religious people here would kill if they thought thats what their god wanted. If you wouldnt then your just an atheist but refuse to admit it.

Why address a board idiot, even those that somewhat agree with him don't even address him because ahem he's an ideological idiot.

Julio3000
02-22-2017, 11:22 AM
Some love to use the argument why are these people different from Islamic terrorists and it should be addressed with the same attention. Just trying to identify differences.

Are we in danger of being invaded by a standing army?

AerchAngel
02-22-2017, 11:26 AM
Are we in danger of being invaded by a standing army?

Julio, you are better than that. You are essentially calling him an idiot. Man come on. You know that no nation on Earth could land a army on our soil and not be decimated, with 350 mil guns we on, every citizen even children could kill a combatant. Even Japan acknowledge this what 70 years ago. You land on USA territory you will be shot by ANYONE.

thethe
02-22-2017, 11:26 AM
Are we in danger of being invaded by a standing army?

No but it speaks to the size of the threat and how comical it is to compare this type of attack to Islamic terrorism.

Julio3000
02-22-2017, 11:34 AM
No but it speaks to the size of the threat and how comical it is to compare this type of attack to Islamic terrorism.

I'm not sure why it's so hard to validate the idea that "this type of attack" poses a tangible (if small) danger to the lives of Americans. Agreeing with that statement is irrelevant to one's feelings about the threat (also real, also small) of radicalized Islamist terrorism.

thethe
02-22-2017, 11:40 AM
I'm not sure why it's so hard to validate the idea that "this type of attack" poses a tangible (if small) danger to the lives of Americans. Agreeing with that statement is irrelevant to one's feelings about the threat (also real, also small) of radicalized Islamist terrorism.

It's about the actual threat to the world. It's not even comparable.

Julio3000
02-22-2017, 11:47 AM
It's about the actual threat to the world. It's not even comparable.

Worldwide, maybe not, but that's apples and oranges when comparing the threat inside our borders. I'm just commenting on the propensity to discount homegrown ethno-nationalist/"patriot" terrorists, when the evidence suggests that it's a legitimate concern. Remember what the largest pre-9/11/01 terrorist attack in the US was.

thethe
02-22-2017, 12:00 PM
Worldwide, maybe not, but that's apples and oranges when comparing the threat inside our borders. I'm just commenting on the propensity to discount homegrown ethno-nationalist/"patriot" terrorists, when the evidence suggests that it's a legitimate concern. Remember what the largest pre-9/11/01 terrorist attack in the US was.

Maybe? Really?

I'm not trying to diminish what happened. There needs to be attention paid by DHS but in totality that attention should be minimal compared to Islamic terrorism. We have been lucky to not have more attacks here. It's just luck though.

Julio3000
02-22-2017, 12:05 PM
Maybe? Really?

I'm not trying to diminish what happened. There needs to be attention paid by DHS but in totality that attention should be minimal compared to Islamic terrorism. We have been lucky to not have more attacks here. It's just luck though.

Dude.

thethe
02-22-2017, 12:15 PM
For the most part terrorism is indefensible. Whether or not we get attacked is primarily a matter of luck

jpx7
02-22-2017, 03:11 PM
Do these lunatics have standing armies?

Plenty of US-based "militia" groups and para-military "clubs" espouse these types of views. I guess it's likewise pure luck that some of those haven't (yet) mounted competent attacks over the past couple decades.

thethe
02-22-2017, 03:26 PM
Plenty of US-based "militia" groups and para-military "clubs" espouse these types of views. I guess it's likewise pure luck that some of those haven't (yet) mounted competent attacks over the past couple decades.

So what you are saying is these groups are comparable to ISIS/AL Quadea/Boko Haram?

mqt
02-22-2017, 03:52 PM
So what you are saying is these groups are comparable to ISIS/AL Quadea/Boko Haram?

I'm sure he isn't, but I'm sure as hell content to say that they pose roughly the same danger to Americans domestically as those groups.

jpx7
02-22-2017, 03:52 PM
So what you are saying is these groups are comparable to ISIS/AL Quadea/Boko Haram?

They're not the same, but they're not so different, either. Regardless, all are para-military groups—distinct in size and coherence, sure, and with differing Abrahamic religious dogmas undergirding their ultraconservative political missions—but none really have "standing armies".

Are you troubled by the preaching of radical forms of Islam in association with actual standing armies? Maybe attend your gaze to Saudi Arabia, the birthplace and chief progenitor/funder of the ideologically hyper-strict, sharia-cleaving, violently puritanical strain of Islam that is philosophically foundational to each of the groups you mention (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism); and which, by the way, spends more than a full tenth of its GDP on its military (with plenty of US aid), and is currently bombing the life out of Yemen (with plenty of US cover).

thethe
02-22-2017, 04:38 PM
It's a disgrace how buddy buddy we are with Saudi Arabia. If you don't have a free society then we should not have any associations. It's a complete joke IMO.

cajunrevenge
02-22-2017, 05:18 PM
Free society my ass.

jpx7
02-22-2017, 05:25 PM
It's a disgrace how buddy buddy we are with Saudi Arabia. If you don't have a free society then we should not have any associations. It's a complete joke IMO.

I assume you feel the same way about Israel.

cajunrevenge
02-22-2017, 05:26 PM
For the most part terrorism is indefensible. Whether or not we get attacked is primarily a matter of luck


We blow up 100,000 times more **** in Muslim countries than they do to us. If your just a Muslim being vocal about hating America for bombing the **** out of your country then you might make the next drone strike list. You think your scared of Islamic terroists blowing you up, imagine being in Iraq and hearing or seeing a US drone. Thats real terror. We are trying to put out a fire by pouring gasoline on it and wondering why the fire keeps getting bigger.

AerchAngel
02-22-2017, 07:53 PM
We blow up 100,000 times more **** in Muslim countries than they do to us. If your just a Muslim being vocal about hating America for bombing the **** out of your country then you might make the next drone strike list. You think your scared of Islamic terroists blowing you up, imagine being in Iraq and hearing or seeing a US drone. Thats real terror. We are trying to put out a fire by pouring gasoline on it and wondering why the fire keeps getting bigger.

OBama says hello and Trump is giving you a hi five.

thethe
02-22-2017, 09:02 PM
I assume you feel the same way about Israel.

Please explain how Israel is like Saudi Arabia