Remember when folks reall thought

[JCarbo76]

That we should trade for Chase Headley and bench Chris Johnson?

.241/.335/.377

Yeah, right.

[JCarbo76]

That we should trade for Chase Headley and bench Chris Johnson?

.241/.335/.377

Yeah, right.

Petco kills him, though.

His road numbers: .239/.318/.358

[cajunrevenge]

Right now I am favoring the chariot that hasnt turned into a pumpkin over the pumpkin that hasnt turned into a chariot. Outside of 2012 their OPS's are very similar. Defense favors Headley a lot but that would matter more to me if we didnt have Simmons at SS.

I agree with this guy.

[thethe]

Remember, this guy deserves 16 million per year.

What a joke.

[drewdat]

Yeah, about that.

[cajunrevenge]

You know who doesnt deserve 16 mill a year.... McCann.

[Heyward]

Yeah, about that.

One HR won't change that, good player, yes but not as good as some of the homers make it out to be.

[Gary82]

I was definitely in the Chase Headley camp. **** it. I'm a fan. It's all cool.

[BRule]

Judging a player off his worst year, when he has been battling injuries all year and coming off surgery.

I'm sure people were saying McCann was finished last year as well...

[zitothebrave]

Still would. Upside with Headley is MVP quality, upside with Johnson is what we're seeing now. Same basic thought process behind Prado for Upton, you trade for a guy with a massive ceiling over a guy who does a lot of things well. Headley is no Upton, but Johnson is no Prado either.

[ChapelHillMatt]

How is Headley MVP quality?

Trading for Headly would be a mistake, he wouldn't come cheap. Let's develop our own guy at 3rd and let Johnson continue give us solid production in the interim.

[zitothebrave]

How is Headley MVP quality?

Trading for Headly would be a mistake, he wouldn't come cheap. Let's develop our own guy at 3rd and let Johnson continue give us solid production in the interim.

Just last year he hit .286/.376/.498 with 31 homers 95 runs and 115 RBIs and 17 SB with gold glove defense. That's pretty close to MVP play.

[BRule]

Just last year he hit .286/.376/.498 with 31 homers 95 runs and 115 RBIs and 17 SB with gold glove defense. That's pretty close to MVP play.

Yup...if he was on the Braves last year he's 100% in the top 3 of MVP voting.

[zitothebrave]

Yup...if he was on the Braves last year he's 100% in the top 3 of MVP voting.

Considering he was number 5 with a team not in the playoffs it's certainly likely.

[BRule]

Didn't realize he was that high, thought he was around 7 or 8 for some reason.

[Braves1976]

Judging a player off his worst year, when he has been battling injuries all year and coming off surgery.

I'm sure people were saying McCann was finished last year as well...

Yep, good point.

[Braves1976]

Yup...if he was on the Braves last year he's 100% in the top 3 of MVP voting.

Agreed. This debate reminds me of those talking like Wainwright was no longer an ace based on last year. It's short-sighted in other words.

[NYCBrave]

Agreed. This debate reminds me of those talking like Wainwright was no longer an ace based on last year. It's short-sighted in other words.

But the guy has only had one MVP type season and next year will be his age 30 season. Wainwright had plenty of ace seasons under his belt before the injury.

[Braves1976]

But the guy has only had one MVP type season and next year will be his age 30 season. Wainwright had plenty of ace seasons under his belt before the injury.

The potential is still there and he's also great defensively. But my point was more to compare them coming off injury. Wainwright had been coming off Tommy John recently last year. But now he has a full season under his belt since it and is back on track. I believe Headley's recent surgery and injuries have effected his performance this year. Further, I expect him to bounce back offensively next season much like Mac did this year. This is also why I said it is short-sighted.

[cajunrevenge]

Outside of last year his high for OPS was .773 and he only has 2 seasons with an OBP over .345. I dont care how good his defense is 3B is just not a premium defensive position. Its nice to have but you can find good defensive 3B who put up a .700 OPS for chump change. If he was Manny Machado good defensively at 3B I might be okay with a big contract.

[jpx7]

I'm sure people were saying McCann was finished last year as well...

Well, there was this guy (http://www.chopcountry.com/forums/member.php?u=7), for one.

[BRule]

Outside of last year his high for OPS was .773 and he only has 2 seasons with an OBP over .345. I dont care how good his defense is 3B is just not a premium defensive position. Its nice to have but you can find good defensive 3B who put up a .700 OPS for chump change. If he was Manny Machado good defensively at 3B I might be okay with a big contract.

Career slash of....

293 / 364 / 450 which gives you an OPS of 814

PETCO is hitters hell

[ChapelHillMatt]

So this year shouldn't be considered the real Headley but last year should? Chances are he's not as bad as he's shown this year and he's not as good as he showed last year. He's a solid player, nothing more than that really. I doubt he'll ever do what he did last year again.

[NYCBrave]

Outside of last year his high for OPS was .773 and he only has 2 seasons with an OBP over .345. I dont care how good his defense is 3B is just not a premium defensive position. Its nice to have but you can find good defensive 3B who put up a .700 OPS for chump change. If he was Manny Machado good defensively at 3B I might be okay with a big contract.

But I was told if he didn't play his home games at Petco, that OPS would be around .973.....:facepalm:

[BRule]

And another one