GDT: September 14, 2013 Padres @ Braves

[NinersSBChamps]

Lineups posted later.

Probable starters are Robbie Erlin and Kris Medlen.

[NinersSBChamps]

#Braves lineup: EJohnson 4, JUpton 9, Freeman 3, Gattis 7 McCann 2, CJohnson 5, Simmons 6, BUpton 8, Medlen 1

[bravesnumberone]

If we can't beat them tonight facing whoever the hell this is, I give up when it comes to the Padres.

[Dalyn]

Fredi has real trouble with the top of the lineup. It is so bizarre.

[Temo]

Fredi has real trouble with the top of the lineup. It is so bizarre.

It's not that bizarre. He just doesn't want to put a legit hitter at the top of the lineup, because he wants them up with men on base, and you're guaranteed to have PAs without base runners if you're at the top of the lineup.

However, he just doesn't get that this also means that you're not maximizing your chance of getting people on base for your middle of the order guys. It's a deficiency in logic on his part.

[NinersSBChamps]

Gotta beat the Fathers tonight.

[Dalyn]

It's not that bizarre. He just doesn't want to put a legit hitter at the top of the lineup, because he wants them up with men on base, and you're guaranteed to have PAs without base runners if you're at the top of the lineup.

However, he just doesn't get that this also means that you're not maximizing your chance of getting people on base for your middle of the order guys. It's a deficiency in logic on his part.

I guess I find it bizarre that you can have so many deficiencies in logic and still manage in the big leagues for an extended period.

[NinersSBChamps]

I guess I find it bizarre that you can have so many deficiencies in logic and still manage in the big leagues for an extended period.

An impressive win loss record here is why he's gonna be extended I think.

[Dalyn]

An impressive win loss record here is why he's gonna be extended I think.


That is akin to signing Russ Ortiz to a long contract because he won 21 games in 2003.

[NinersSBChamps]

That is akin to signing Russ Ortiz to a long contract because he won 21 games in 2003.

I don't agree with it. Just saying what I think is going to happen.

[Dalyn]

I don't agree with it. Just saying what I think is going to happen.

Ah. Yeah. I agree. Unfortunately.

Just shows that Fredi does not have a monopoly on deficiencies in logic.

[nsacpi]

Uggla really getting buried on the bench this week. I've been advocating more PT for Elliot Johnson, but I never thought he should be getting most of the starts at second.

[Dalyn]

Uggla really getting buried on the bench this week. I've been advocating more PT for Elliot Johnson, but I never thought he should be getting most of the starts at second.

Or at the top of the lineup. It is just silly.

[nsacpi]

Or at the top of the lineup. It is just silly.

Sometimes I think Fredi has this passive-aggressive way of reacting to criticism. "So you think I'm playing Uggla too much. Fine I'll bench him. Hope that makes everyone happy."

Some people might want to bench Uggla. But I'm not one of them. I want a reduction in his playing time and post-season playing time to be driven by who's hot and who's not. But I want Uggla (and BJ Upton for that matter) to continue to play about half the games during the rest of the regular season so that they do have an opportunity to get hot. If Uggla goes back to being as productive as he was in the first half, that would be a significant boost for the team.

[stpeteirish]

very surprised Uggs not in there vs LHP. Guess Fredi's finally had it with him.

[PawPawMaxwell]

Frustrations aside, it is truly amazing that the team is able to sit 30% of the payroll and still be in position that we are.

[NinersSBChamps]

Frustrations aside, it is truly amazing that the team is able to sit 30% of the payroll and still be in position that we are.

They are both dead weight.

[Garmel]

They are both dead weight.

BJ may get out of this funk and produce again. However, I think Father Time might be getting the best of Uggla.

[zitothebrave]

BJ may get out of this funk and produce again. However, I think Father Time might be getting the best of Uggla.
FWIW the last bad offensive year for Bossman he got hot at the right time, as of September 18th he had a .660 OPS then after that for the reg season he posted a .988 OPS. So hopefully he can do the same here. And then have an October a lot like he did in 2008 where he posted a .985 OPS

[thethe]

I'm actually starting to not like Gattis he swings at the first pitch so much. Its infuriating.

[bravesnumberone]

Pathetic.

[bravesnumberone]

Christ, get the ****ing bunt down.

[stpeteirish]

Just get Meds a couple and we'll be fine. Don't think Fredi can screw up bullpen usage two nights in a row. He's got to realize now the rosters have expanded and they can pinch hit for pinch hitters without running out of players.

[stpeteirish]

why can't our pitchers bunt? (broken record)

[bravesnumberone]

Complete lack of awareness.

[stpeteirish]

Complete lack of awareness.

I'll take "BJ Upton for $20", Alex.

[bravesnumberone]

I'll take "BJ Upton for $20", Alex.

The sad thing is I was talking about Medlen's piss poor bunting. I chose not to even approach BJ. I'd rather not get banned.

[NinersSBChamps]

Please don't blow this.

[bravesnumberone]

2-0 pitch was at his ankles. I swear....

[NinersSBChamps]

Game day has all these pitches in the strike zone as balls.

[bravesnumberone]

Yeah, you slam that bat down.

[nsacpi]

Lord BABIP

[NinersSBChamps]

CJ23 continues to impress.

[bravesnumberone]

Alright Medlen, there's your run. Better pitch a shutout.

[Dalyn]

:tchop:

[bravesnumberone]

Phils and Nats tied 1-1. Hamels, you son of a bitch shut them down.

[bravesnumberone]

Walking the pitcher with two outs when he was ahead in the count.

[jason27nc]

Nats now down 4-1 the the Phillies. Is it raining in Atl? I can't get the game.

[bravesnumberone]

We just invent ways to fail. Hold them, Medlen.

[bravesnumberone]

Freddie Freddie Freddie

[Runnin]

MVP Freddie Freeman!

[Bj1133]

99 for Freddie

[bravesnumberone]

If Freddie had about 8-10 more homers, he'd probably getting a lot more consideration. Joe made a good point about it being more difficult for him, since we're not in a heated race currently.

[The Chosen One]

If Freddie had about 8-10 more homers, he'd probably getting a lot more consideration. Joe made a good point about it being more difficult for him, since we're not in a heated race currently.

How racist of them.

[bravesnumberone]

How racist of them.

:icwudt:

[bravesnumberone]

More strong work from Medlen. Let's score a few more.

[bravesnumberone]

Give him a cookie, he actually executed a bunt.

[Dalyn]

Not sure why you would throw Freeman a strike with Gattis on deck.

[Dalyn]

Wow. How was that not strike three?

[NinersSBChamps]

Bust this one open Evan!

[bravesnumberone]

Awful.

[NinersSBChamps]

Wow that was a very poor at bat.

[buck7580]

Good game Meds

[The Chosen One]

Avilan again?

[Dalyn]

Pro throw, bro.

[bravesnumberone]

For the love of God, please score more runs.

[The Chosen One]

Upton with 2 BB's. Maybe he bought himself another day.

[Dalyn]

Upton with 2 BB's. Maybe he bought himself another day.

Hope he made the check out to Fredi, cause that must be what Schafer is doing.

[NinersSBChamps]

Upton with 2 BB's. Maybe he bought himself another day.

I don't think he has enough money.

[bravesnumberone]

Upton with 2 BB's. Maybe he bought himself another day.

Yeah, be nice if he'd actually start hitting like he's paid to. That it's even a conversation about him getting playing time is an embarrassment.

[NinersSBChamps]

Did McCann try to bunt twice?

[NinersSBChamps]

Yeah, be nice if he'd actually start hitting like he's paid to. That it's even a conversation about him getting playing time is an embarrassment.

Coming into tonight he's averaging about 180K a hit.

[The Chosen One]

UNfortunately for BJ, he's taken a lot of pitches in counts in which the pitch should be a ball but it turns out to be a strike.

I like that he doesn't go up there hacking, it just seems like the times he decides to take a pitch it's a strike.

[Dalyn]

:tchop:

[bravesnumberone]

Three walks is a good thing. But we need him to do much much more.

[The Chosen One]

3 walks tonight for BJ.

[The Chosen One]

Joey T has less power than Tony G.

[bravesnumberone]

Piece of crap worthless Phillies blowing it.

[Dalyn]

UNfortunately for BJ, he's taken a lot of pitches in counts in which the pitch should be a ball but it turns out to be a strike.

I like that he doesn't go up there hacking, it just seems like the times he decides to take a pitch it's a strike.

Yep. Close calls rarely go his way. Did that at-bat, and he got another walk.

[Dalyn]

Three walks is a good thing. But we need him to do much much more.

A step forward is a step forward.

[NinersSBChamps]

Find a gap Joey.

[zitothebrave]

3 walks tonight for BJ.

He blows clearly.

[NinersSBChamps]

Elliot is gonna deposit one into the seats.

[The Chosen One]

Find a gap Joey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLqKP6vpi68

[weso1]

The fact that Freeman only has an .875ish OPS makes me realize how great Chipper was. I mean Freeman has had a great year, I think most can agree that he's been MVP of this team, but has an OPS that is still significantly less than Chipper's career OPS.

[bravesnumberone]

I detest this offense right now. No excuse for only having two runs tonight.

[zitothebrave]

Elliot is gonna deposit one into the seats.

I guess that counts as being right if you count throwing the ball to the bat boy

[Dalyn]

I blame thethe.

[weso1]

Do not go low and in on Headley. Series less thus far.

[Dalyn]

The fact that Freeman only has an .875ish OPS makes me realize how great Chipper was. I mean Freeman has had a great year, I think most can agree that he's been MVP of this team, but has an OPS that is still significantly less than Chipper's career OPS.

Never had lower than an .803 OPS--his rookie year.

[BlackwaterPark]

Nice jinx guys

[The Chosen One]

Do not go low and in on Headley. Series less thus far.

IF you're going to get in on Head, then make sure you stuff it deep inside and choke him on the inner half.

[stpeteirish]

Headley only has 12 HR's this year.2 in last 2 nights.

[The Chosen One]

Headley only has 12 HR's this year.2 in last 2 nights.

Making a pitch to play at Turner Field, regularly.

[buck7580]

I detest this offense right now. No excuse for only having two runs tonight.

Yep. But hopefully Craig will hold them off.

[nsacpi]

Never had lower than an .803 OPS--his rookie year.

That was his age 23 season. This year is Freddie's age 23 season.

[bravesnumberone]

****ing throw strikes.

[weso1]

IF you're going to get in on Head, then make sure you stuff it deep inside and choke him on the inner half.

I actually didn't noticed the innuendo until your post, but now it seems so obvious. I'm clearly gettting old.

[NinersSBChamps]

Come on CK end this game.

[Lville21]

Hang on here. Cardinals losing late and Dodgers getting blasted early.

[The Chosen One]

I actually didn't noticed the innuendo until your post, but now it seems so obvious. I'm clearly gettting old.

May need to have a Clique Leader recall.

[Dalyn]

That was his age 23 season. This year is Freddie's age 23 season.

I don't even know what to say. Freeman is good and all, but he is not Chipper good.

[bravesnumberone]

My God, McCann, step into the damn throw.

[holden]

Kimbrel getting majorly squeezed right now.

[The Chosen One]

PHEW.

[Dalyn]

Not scary at all.

[bravesnumberone]

We (barely) get the thumbs out of our ass and finally beat the Padres. 5.

[TURBO]

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[buck7580]

Whew.

[NinersSBChamps]

We solved the mystery that is the San Diego Padres.

[Dalyn]

Chipper also never had 100 or more strikeouts. Freeman has yet to have a year with less than 129.

[zitothebrave]

great job by the pitchers

[weso1]

May need to have a Clique Leader recall.

I'm also sick and half drunk. So please keep that in mind.

[weso1]

Chipper also never had 100 or more strikeouts. Freeman has yet to have a year with less than 129.

Mitch Williams should be mocked endlessly.

[The Chosen One]

Chipper also never had 100 or more strikeouts. Freeman has yet to have a year with less than 129.

OK DUDE WE GET IT.

You dream about Chipper giving you an Alex Wood in your fantasy league.

[The Chosen One]

Who is a worse homer Braves analyst, Paul Byrd or Brian Jordan?

[Heyward]

Good win, Meds has been dealing lately.

Nice to finally beat the Padres.

[Dalyn]

OK DUDE WE GET IT.

You dream about Chipper giving you an Alex Wood in your fantasy league.


http://www.menasy.com/b0622.gif

[The Chosen One]

Medlen is our new stopper.

Well I don't want to say new, just say he's returned.

[nsacpi]

Freeman has shown steady improvement in a lot of categories. Strikeout rate in his three years has dropped from 22.4 to 20.8 to 19.2 (and 18.2 in the second half of this year). His OPS in the second half is now around .900.

[The Chosen One]

Fredi's post-game PC's are always entertaining because the cliche's and Bobby talk is amazing.

Our starter could go 5IP and give up 4ER with 3BB, and he'd say "he really really looked good out there. Just made a few mistake pitches but he gave us a chance to win."

[thethe]

Medlen is a beast.

[CyYoung31]

Medlen is a beast.

Is it safe to say that Medlen has replaced Gattis as the new Medlen?

[weso1]

Fredi seems very nervous around media. I give him a pass because of that.

[Dalyn]

Fredi seems very nervous around media. I give him a pass because of that.

You can tell he is just begging inside his head not to have anyone ask him why he made a particular move.

"Please, God, if no one asks me about keeping Ayala in I will start BJ tomorrow."

[bravesnumberone]

Fredi seems very nervous around media. I give him a pass because of that.

Can't imagine why. He's rarely pressed on anything.

[Heyward]

Nats finally ****ing lose.

Down to 4....

[bravesnumberone]

Phils win. Magic number at 4.

[zitothebrave]

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130601180933/arresteddevelopment/images/5/5f/4x05_A_New_Start_(78).png

[Runnin]

Great day. The Nats are set up for us to drive a stake through their hearts.

[The Chosen One]

Great day. The Nats are set up for us to drive a stake through their hearts.

I don't know if it'd be through their hearts... I'm fairly sure they know the division is out of their hands.

However if we go in and sweep them, we could potentially knock them out of the wild card.

[bravesnumberone]

And that's what we need to be thinking. Though if we can't start scoring more consistently, it might be a rough time for us up in D.C.

[Heyward]

And that's what we need to be thinking. Though if we can't start scoring more consistently, it might be a rough time for us up in D.C.

Well, we do avoid Gio and Zimmerman, and possibly even Strasburg as well.

But they are scorching hot right now.

Hopefully we can win tommorow though.

[Bdawg2309]

A step forward is a step forward.

Until he takes 5 steps back in a couple of days

[NinersSBChamps]

Can add to our HFA bid tonight. Giants putting it on the Dodgers now.

[Dalyn]

Until he takes 5 steps back in a couple of days

:roll:

[The Chosen One]

Can add to our HFA bid tonight. Giants putting it on the Dodgers now.

You're also one Braves' win away from getting another suspension. :eusa_dance:

[The Chosen One]

:roll:

I think he was being optimistic, and meant 5 steps back to the dugout after a strikeout.

If he doesn't strikeout for a couple of days I'll be thrilled.

[Dalyn]

I think he was being optimistic, and meant 5 steps back to the dugout after a strikeout.

If he doesn't strikeout for a couple of days I'll be thrilled.

That would be nice.

[NinersSBChamps]

You're also one Braves' win away from getting another suspension. :eusa_dance:
We never actually bet.

[Bdawg2309]

:roll:

How I also feel about your constant fredi bashing.

[Runnin]

I don't know if it'd be through their hearts... I'm fairly sure they know the division is out of their hands.

However if we go in and sweep them, we could potentially knock them out of the wild card.
With the winning streak they were thinking they had a good shot at the WC. Even one win will hurt them. A series sweep would be devastating.

[Teheran_49]

Medlen with a great outing. He had great movement on all his pitches and has looked like the guy that was so good last year. FF is just a monster and he is as deserving of the NL MVP as anyone else as of right now. Would like to of seen more runs scored but like Paul Byrd said I would rather the offense struggle now then two weeks from now so that is a positive way to look at it. I think there is no reason not to have Medlen start game 1 of the play-offs for us. He has been really good the past several outings and really since the AS break. He's only walked 9 batters since the AS break after scuffling the first part of the season.

[Gary82]

Not too long ago, I had Medlen pegged as the number four starter going into the playoffs. Now? He may be the number one guy.