GDP 4/21: Braves vs Phillies

[nsacpi]

expecting a yuge game from Kemp

[UNCBlue012]

Wow. Complete luck.

[msstate7]

Am I misremembering or does Galvis kill us every time

[USMA76]

Colon less than sexy so far in this game.

[Enscheff]

Snit just can't quite figure out this lineup creation thing.

[chop2chip]

Snit just can't quite figure out this lineup creation thing.

I normally don't care that much about this stuff, but if he's hitting Adonis second (much less sticking him in the lineup in general), then I'm just as fine as letting that guy ride his retirement out in Gwinnett.

[Garmel]

Garcia is a terrible player but he's actually played a good third base the last two games.

[msstate7]

Garcia is a terrible player but he's actually played a good third base the last two games.
Hits in back-to-back games too.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Freeman is a beast! That was crushed!

[NinersSBChamps]

I normally don't care that much about this stuff, but if he's hitting Adonis second (much less sticking him in the lineup in general), then I'm just as fine as letting that guy ride his retirement out in Gwinnett.

Not defending him since he shouln't have the job to begin with, but what is he supposed to do? Not his fault the front office sat on their hands and provided zero help on an already awful offense. He has no choice, but to plug in the mixture of bad players at his disposal. Does it matter if it's Garcia, Jace, or something else at third?

[mossy]

If only the Braves could get someone one base ahead of Freddie.

[UNCBlue012]

Freeman is incredible. Man.

[Julio3000]

Freddie. Wow.

[UNCBlue012]

Hellickson's change has been on, but man he's missed a lot and the guys aren't doing anything with his mistakes.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Offense has been so streaky

[UNCBlue012]

Swanson just needs to be sent down. If only to clear his head. It's so embarrassing.

[UNCBlue012]

Dang. We can't catch a break and the Phillies just get consistently lucky. Lol

[msstate7]

Sucks, but we're gonna have to send Swanson down

[Enscheff]

Sucks, but we're gonna have to send Swanson down

If they do that attendance and jersey sales will plummet.

[Garmel]

Garcia with a home run. Now a rain delay.

[Enscheff]

This one game has assured the Braves have Adonis and his .310 OBP in the 2 hole for the rest of the first half.

[msstate7]

If they do that attendance and jersey sales will plummet.

We'll bring maitan up to offset the loss

[Southcack77]

This one game has assured the Braves have Adonis and his .310 OBP in the 2 hole for the rest of the first half.

that is irritating, but possibly true.

Maybe's he's starting his hot streak.

[msstate7]

that is irritating, but possibly true.

Maybe's he's starting his hot streak.

What were Garcia's numbers in 2-hole last year? Seems he was pretty good

[nsacpi]

What were Garcia's numbers in 2-hole last year? Seems he was pretty good

He could be one of those hitters who does better in a particular spot in the lineup.

[Southcack77]

What were Garcia's numbers in 2-hole last year? Seems he was pretty good

I think he was .285/.323 8 bb/36k from the 2. 207AB

[Dalyn]

What were Garcia's numbers in 2-hole last year? Seems he was pretty good

.285 .318 .425 .743

[USMA76]

In three of our last four (all losses), we've had the tying run in scoring position in with two outs in the ninth. It would seem we're overdue.

[thewupk]

Outside of playing the worst team in baseball we are trash.

[msstate7]

Outside of playing the worst team in baseball we are trash.

PAdres 7-10 and just took series from diamondbacks

[mossy]

At least we won the opening game and series at our new park. Might be the only cool thing this year.

[msstate7]

Padres now 8-10 after beating marlins. Throw out the atlanta series and the padres are 8-6.

[Enscheff]

Game 1 of The Basement Battle was a loss.

[Enscheff]

What were Garcia's numbers in 2-hole last year? Seems he was pretty good

.285/.318/.425 (.743 OPS)

Average #2 hitter in MLB in 2016 had a .333 OBP.

So no, he did not do well in the #2 hole last year.

[goldfly]

i've noticed we are good at making it interesting


now, we just have to win those interesting games and turn them into wins

[msstate7]

.285/.318/.425 (.743 OPS)

Average #2 hitter in MLB in 2016 had a .333 OBP.

So no, he did not do well in the #2 hole last year.

600 PAs with an OBP of .333 = getting on base approx 200 times

600 PAs with an OBP of .318 = getting on base approx 191 times

191 is 95.5% of 200. That's pretty much the average 2-hole hitter.

How'd he match up in avg and ops?

[auyushu]

Padres now 8-10 after beating marlins. Throw out the atlanta series and the padres are 8-6.

And the Braves were close to .500 for the first half of the 2015 season and wound up with the third worst record in baseball, their record means exactly squat right now. The Padres have a terrible team, they are 25th in ERA and 26th in runs scored. And they don't have much talent at all. Winning a few close games at home doesn't change that.

[msstate7]

And the Braves were close to .500 for the first half of the 2015 season and wound up with the third worst record in baseball, their record means exactly squat right now. The Padres have a terrible team, they are 25th in ERA and 26th in runs scored. And they don't have much talent at all. Winning a few close games at home doesn't change that.
So you're saying they don't have the worst record, worst era, or worst run production, but they're the worst? Look in no way do I think the padres are some good team; but if you call them the worst team, it's strictly on what you think they're gonna do, not what they've done. I think in the end, they'll be the worst, but they haven't been so far

[thewupk]

Padres now 8-10 after beating marlins. Throw out the atlanta series and the padres are 8-6.

Like the Braves offense. Don't expect this to last.

[auyushu]

So you're saying they don't have the worst record, worst era, or worst run production, but they're the worst? Look in no way do I think the padres are some good team; but if you call them the worst team, it's strictly on what you think they're gonna do, not what they've done. I think in the end, they'll be the worst, but they haven't been so far

When did I say they were the worst team? I just said they have a terrible team. They'll most likely have a bottom 5 team, and have a good chance at the worst record, but who the worst team will be is a crapshoot.

And if you think they'll be the worst team by the end of the season, what on earth are you even arguing about?

[cajunrevenge]

Cant we just settle this by adding up their WAR?

[NinersSBChamps]

Is that folk hero still up with the big club in Atlanta? Should send him down and soon.

[Southcack77]

And the Braves were close to .500 for the first half of the 2015 season and wound up with the third worst record in baseball, their record means exactly squat right now. The Padres have a terrible team, they are 25th in ERA and 26th in runs scored. And they don't have much talent at all. Winning a few close games at home doesn't change that.

Of course the Braves traded a fair number of their players along the way.

[Enscheff]

600 PAs with an OBP of .333 = getting on base approx 200 times

600 PAs with an OBP of .318 = getting on base approx 191 times

191 is 95.5% of 200. That's pretty much the average 2-hole hitter.

How'd he match up in avg and ops?

Haha ok hoss. You lack of stats knowledge is funny.

I suppose you think a guy with a 1.000 OPS is only 10% more valuable than a guy with a .900 OPS huh? Haha, derp!!

[msstate7]

Haha ok hoss.

So, that difference over 600 or so PAs is terrible to adequate? If we got $1 for each time we got on base in 600 PAs, you ended up with 200 and myself 191... you middle class and me poor?

[Enscheff]

So, that difference over 600 or so PAs is terrible to adequate? If we got $1 for each time we got on base in 600 PAs, you ended up with 200 and myself 191... you middle class and me poor?

You have zero idea what you're talking about. Look up and understand stats that rate guys as a percentage better than MLB average (OPS+, wRC+, etc), and educate yourself.

The #1 clue someone doesn't know what they are talking about is trying to dumb it down to something simple like finances for a 5 year old (you see it all the time with folks talking about global economics by comparing it to household finances).

Or keep being a moron. Your choice.

[msstate7]

.285/.318/.425 (.743 OPS)

Average #2 hitter in MLB in 2016 had a .333 OBP.

So no, he did not do well in the #2 hole last year.

You brought up OBP and that only to quantify a good 2-hole hitter. Now you change it

[Enscheff]

Quick question, do you think a player who plays average defense, hits at an average clip, and is an average baserunner is an average player?

[msstate7]

Quick question, do you think a player who plays average defense, hits at an average clip, and is an average baserunner is an average player?

No, he's an all star.

I'm not saying Garcia is an average player. All I was saying is that if an obp of .333 is adequate that an obp of .318 isn't horrible. Is it good? Nah

[thewupk]

A 318 OBP based on a league average OBP of 333 for the #2 position would be something like 95 OBP+ if such a stat would exist. Not horrible but not something we should strive for. Had Adonis hit 2nd all year his 318 OBP would rank 23rd out of 30 teams for OBP out of the #2 spot.

[buck75]

Oh well.